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I am still trying to figure out what Gizmo has against Buena Vista, their movies are consistantly the top of the PQ charts.
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[quote name='CaseyRyback']That situation is completely different since the movie was made by sony pictures. The exclusive agreement between paramount and HD-DVD came about just a few months ago (wasn't it August?). I am sure he wanted the movie released on both formats at that point so that he could get that fat check from all the sales. Anyone who has a stake in something is always going to want maximum returns and he saw his ability to get them minimized by this agreement. Of course he has a right to be angry IMO.[/QUOTE]
More specifically, the HD DVD bribe helped out Paramount and hurt Michael Bay. He didn't get any of the $150 million, but in return, he lost out on royalties from Blu-Ray disc sales. Not exactly something to keep your directors in good graces.
:lol: @ Linkin. That reminds me of all those prats who threw Bay under the bus when he made his prior comments about Blu-Ray, the evening of the Paramount buyout announcement. Evidently for them, Transformers is an awesome amazing great six-stars kick-ass best movie of the
ing century film...but Bay sucks and had nothing whatsoever to do with the film being all those aforementioned adjectives (an attribution of irrelevance that, hilariously enough, ONLY came about when he began to express his preference for Blu-Ray). 
More specifically, the HD DVD bribe helped out Paramount and hurt Michael Bay. He didn't get any of the $150 million, but in return, he lost out on royalties from Blu-Ray disc sales. Not exactly something to keep your directors in good graces.
:lol: @ Linkin. That reminds me of all those prats who threw Bay under the bus when he made his prior comments about Blu-Ray, the evening of the Paramount buyout announcement. Evidently for them, Transformers is an awesome amazing great six-stars kick-ass best movie of the
ing century film...but Bay sucks and had nothing whatsoever to do with the film being all those aforementioned adjectives (an attribution of irrelevance that, hilariously enough, ONLY came about when he began to express his preference for Blu-Ray). [quote name='H.Cornerstone']I am still trying to figure out what Gizmo has against Buena Vista, their movies are consistantly the top of the PQ charts.[/quote]
I can't speak for any of his previous comments, but I understand where this most recent one comes from. I'm also planning to hold off on buying many Sony/Disney titles until the week of November 13th (Shrek3 release) or December 11 (Bourne Ultimatum release) when they're likely to be on BOGOF again. Not knocking the quality of the movies, as nearly all the BR titles I'm interested in are either Sony or BVHE. I'm just trying to uphold the mission statement of the site.
I can't speak for any of his previous comments, but I understand where this most recent one comes from. I'm also planning to hold off on buying many Sony/Disney titles until the week of November 13th (Shrek3 release) or December 11 (Bourne Ultimatum release) when they're likely to be on BOGOF again. Not knocking the quality of the movies, as nearly all the BR titles I'm interested in are either Sony or BVHE. I'm just trying to uphold the mission statement of the site.
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[quote name='CaseyRyback']That situation is completely different since the movie was made by sony pictures. The exclusive agreement between paramount and HD-DVD came about just a few months ago (wasn't it August?). I am sure he wanted the movie released on both formats at that point so that he could get that fat check from all the sales. Anyone who has a stake in something is always going to want maximum returns and he saw his ability to get them minimized by this agreement. Of course he has a right to be angry IMO.[/QUOTE]
It's 1% of the market, so yeah he should just shut his mouth at the moment.
The HD-DVD version sold what 190,000 the first week? He missed out on what (being very nice) 300,000 sales by it not being on Blu-Ray thanks to PS3 fans?
The DVD version sold 8.3 million it's first week. He's just throwing a hissy fit over something he knows nothing about....again.
It's 1% of the market, so yeah he should just shut his mouth at the moment.
The HD-DVD version sold what 190,000 the first week? He missed out on what (being very nice) 300,000 sales by it not being on Blu-Ray thanks to PS3 fans?
The DVD version sold 8.3 million it's first week. He's just throwing a hissy fit over something he knows nothing about....again.
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[quote name='Sporadic']It's 1% of the market, so yeah he should just shut his mouth at the moment.
The HD-DVD version sold what 190,000 the first week? He missed out on what (being very nice) 300,000 sales by it not being on Blu-Ray thanks to PS3 fans?
The DVD version sold 8.3 million it's first week. He's just throwing a hissy fit over something he knows nothing about....again.[/QUOTE]
If he received $.50 or so for every blu ray sold, I would want my $150,000 too.
The HD-DVD version sold what 190,000 the first week? He missed out on what (being very nice) 300,000 sales by it not being on Blu-Ray thanks to PS3 fans?
The DVD version sold 8.3 million it's first week. He's just throwing a hissy fit over something he knows nothing about....again.[/QUOTE]
If he received $.50 or so for every blu ray sold, I would want my $150,000 too.
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[quote name='LinkinPrime']Exactly same situation here. If Sony wanted to make more money then why not go neutral...its the same crap everytime.
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Short term financial benefits are nice, but Sony is looking at trying to maxmize movie income for the next ten years and is looking at the long term picture (if blu ray wins they are going to make a hell of a lot more money than if it loses). Paramount has nothing but an agreement and some cash that exchanged hands to dictate which format it favors.
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Short term financial benefits are nice, but Sony is looking at trying to maxmize movie income for the next ten years and is looking at the long term picture (if blu ray wins they are going to make a hell of a lot more money than if it loses). Paramount has nothing but an agreement and some cash that exchanged hands to dictate which format it favors.
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[quote name='Sporadic']He missed out on what (being very nice) 300,000 sales by it not being on Blu-Ray thanks to PS3 fans?[/QUOTE]
Being nice, eh? Given the sales ratio, the average BR sales for Transformers at week 1 would be closer to 400K, around 380,000.
Unless you mean being very nice to HD DVD. :lol:
You have a point that, given the sales of Transformers (and I'm skeptical of both DVD and HD DVD sales figures until Friday), Bay is complaining about a pittance of the money he's earning from home video sales. Nevertheless, calling him a baby, ignoring his contribution to the first film (and wishing someone else would direct the second), and not allowing him to voice his opinion as a director is being quite juvenile yourselves (given all the mudslinging HD DVD folks have thrown at Bay while they simultaneously flail about and brag about having such an amazing blockbuster and film on their format). Let's be a bit more honest about who is having a hissy fit, shall we?
Being nice, eh? Given the sales ratio, the average BR sales for Transformers at week 1 would be closer to 400K, around 380,000.
Unless you mean being very nice to HD DVD. :lol:
You have a point that, given the sales of Transformers (and I'm skeptical of both DVD and HD DVD sales figures until Friday), Bay is complaining about a pittance of the money he's earning from home video sales. Nevertheless, calling him a baby, ignoring his contribution to the first film (and wishing someone else would direct the second), and not allowing him to voice his opinion as a director is being quite juvenile yourselves (given all the mudslinging HD DVD folks have thrown at Bay while they simultaneously flail about and brag about having such an amazing blockbuster and film on their format). Let's be a bit more honest about who is having a hissy fit, shall we?
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[quote name='mykevermin']Being nice, eh? Given the sales ratio, the average BR sales for Transformers at week 1 would be closer to 400K, around 380,000.
Unless you mean being very nice to HD DVD. :lol:
You have a point that, given the sales of Transformers (and I'm skeptical of both DVD and HD DVD sales figures until Friday), Bay is complaining about a pittance of the money he's earning from home video sales. Nevertheless, calling him a baby, ignoring his contribution to the first film (and wishing someone else would direct the second), and not allowing him to voice his opinion as a director is being quite juvenile yourselves (given all the mudslinging HD DVD folks have thrown at Bay while they simultaneously flail about and brag about having such an amazing blockbuster and film on their format). Let's be a bit more honest about who is having a hissy fit, shall we?[/quote]
Bay did. He said, he would not do a sequel unless they released the movie on Blu-Ray...then retracted his statement. Who would want someone with that kind of attitude to direct the sequel, granted they made a buttload of money with the first one and broke all kinds of records. But what makes them sure that he's going to be dedicated to TF2 after he had thrown his hissy fit and now his latest comment?
Unless you mean being very nice to HD DVD. :lol:
You have a point that, given the sales of Transformers (and I'm skeptical of both DVD and HD DVD sales figures until Friday), Bay is complaining about a pittance of the money he's earning from home video sales. Nevertheless, calling him a baby, ignoring his contribution to the first film (and wishing someone else would direct the second), and not allowing him to voice his opinion as a director is being quite juvenile yourselves (given all the mudslinging HD DVD folks have thrown at Bay while they simultaneously flail about and brag about having such an amazing blockbuster and film on their format). Let's be a bit more honest about who is having a hissy fit, shall we?[/quote]
Bay did. He said, he would not do a sequel unless they released the movie on Blu-Ray...then retracted his statement. Who would want someone with that kind of attitude to direct the sequel, granted they made a buttload of money with the first one and broke all kinds of records. But what makes them sure that he's going to be dedicated to TF2 after he had thrown his hissy fit and now his latest comment?
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[quote name='LinkinPrime']Bay did. He said, he would not do a sequel unless they released the movie on Blu-Ray...then retracted his statement. Who would want someone with that kind of attitude to direct the sequel, granted they made a buttload of money with the first one and broke all kinds of records. But what makes them sure that he's going to be dedicated to TF2 after he had thrown his hissy fit and now his latest comment?[/QUOTE]
I'm aware of that. I'm merely pointing out that there's a good deal of HD DVD folks throwing hissy fits (including your earlier remarks), complaining that (get this) Bay of having a hissy fit over the Paramount deal. It cost him money, so I think that he's entitled to have a hissy fit, personally.
If he's going to go back on his word and do TF2, fine. He's not Fellini or Kubrick anyway, so it's not as if I hold his films to any sort of artistic standard.
Lastly, if Hollywood began to offer/remove films from directors' hands on account of tantrums...it would be about as big of a film producing industry as Salt Lake City, no?
Look, I'm sorry that his temper tantrum doesn't reinforce the confidence you have in your format, or that it reminds you that HD DVD *bought* Paramount's loyalty, rather than earned it with marketshare...but leave well enough alone, y'know? It's not going to suddenly change the fact that there will be no Transformers on Blu-Ray, so there's some cold comfort to you in that. Right?
[quote name='dallow']A director should be able to pick and choose how he wants his movie presented.[/QUOTE]
I don't agree with that at all.
I'm aware of that. I'm merely pointing out that there's a good deal of HD DVD folks throwing hissy fits (including your earlier remarks), complaining that (get this) Bay of having a hissy fit over the Paramount deal. It cost him money, so I think that he's entitled to have a hissy fit, personally.
If he's going to go back on his word and do TF2, fine. He's not Fellini or Kubrick anyway, so it's not as if I hold his films to any sort of artistic standard.
Lastly, if Hollywood began to offer/remove films from directors' hands on account of tantrums...it would be about as big of a film producing industry as Salt Lake City, no?
Look, I'm sorry that his temper tantrum doesn't reinforce the confidence you have in your format, or that it reminds you that HD DVD *bought* Paramount's loyalty, rather than earned it with marketshare...but leave well enough alone, y'know? It's not going to suddenly change the fact that there will be no Transformers on Blu-Ray, so there's some cold comfort to you in that. Right?
[quote name='dallow']A director should be able to pick and choose how he wants his movie presented.[/QUOTE]
I don't agree with that at all.
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[quote name='dallow']A director should be able to pick and choose how he wants his movie presented.[/QUOTE]
If the director foots the bill for the movie, sure. Otherwise, the folks that paid for the movie should retain that right.
If the director foots the bill for the movie, sure. Otherwise, the folks that paid for the movie should retain that right.
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i knew it.. sony anounced res evil trilogy today..
i will wait for tech specs but i will most probably wait now for the domestic release
edit. myke posted it above..
i will wait for tech specs but i will most probably wait now for the domestic release
edit. myke posted it above..
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[quote name='dallow']A director should be able to pick and choose how he wants his movie presented.
EDIT: Even if it's Bay.[/quote]
when you leave it up to the directors... we end up waiting forever for theing movies..
see lucas
EDIT: Even if it's Bay.[/quote]
when you leave it up to the directors... we end up waiting forever for the
ing movies..see lucas
Why's that myke?
Don't feel there's a certain amount of artistic ownership that a director should have to how it's shown?
Granted, I know it's Bay of all people we're talking about.
[quote name='guyver']when you leave it up to the directors... we end up waiting forever for theing movies..
see lucas[/QUOTE]I can respect their wishes I s'pose.
Don't feel there's a certain amount of artistic ownership that a director should have to how it's shown?
Granted, I know it's Bay of all people we're talking about.
[quote name='guyver']when you leave it up to the directors... we end up waiting forever for the
ing movies..see lucas[/QUOTE]I can respect their wishes I s'pose.
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[quote name='dallow']Why's that myke?
Don't feel there's a certain amount of artistic ownership that a director should have to how it's shown?[/QUOTE]
Depends. If I make a film, if I'm that bloody concerned with its release format, I'd try to get published by a studio that puts out movies in the format I want them to.
OTOH, if a movie studio approaches me and says "make this movie," I'm pretty beholden to their whims (if I agree to make it), no? Evil mega corporate entity or not, it's their property.
Beyond all this, home video format is rarely a point to take a stance on, y'know? A few years back, if you said "I DEMAND TO BE RELEASED ON DVD!" then you'd get some funny looks, right? Taking a stance on release format is a unique phenomenon to this era (for the past quarter century, at any rate) for films, and a temporary one, IMO (not considering digital distribution of course).
Don't feel there's a certain amount of artistic ownership that a director should have to how it's shown?[/QUOTE]
Depends. If I make a film, if I'm that bloody concerned with its release format, I'd try to get published by a studio that puts out movies in the format I want them to.
OTOH, if a movie studio approaches me and says "make this movie," I'm pretty beholden to their whims (if I agree to make it), no? Evil mega corporate entity or not, it's their property.
Beyond all this, home video format is rarely a point to take a stance on, y'know? A few years back, if you said "I DEMAND TO BE RELEASED ON DVD!" then you'd get some funny looks, right? Taking a stance on release format is a unique phenomenon to this era (for the past quarter century, at any rate) for films, and a temporary one, IMO (not considering digital distribution of course).
That's true, he was approached, and not really for his artistic ability, but for his knowledge of what the public wants to see.
In other news, these two HD DVD announcements make me jealous.
As corny/slightly racist (first one) and campy (second) as they are.
In other news, these two HD DVD announcements make me jealous.
As corny/slightly racist (first one) and campy (second) as they are.
Hold your breath, I can't think of one movie BCI has released yet on HD DVD dallow. They haven't released "Golgo", "Sister Street Fighter" or any of their other films listed. It would be nice to see because these films would be welcome movies in terms of variety to the HD DVD library.
[quote name='guyver2077']ewww... foreign and art films?
are you serious...[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah, EWWW to "House Of Flying Daggers", "Curse Of the Golden Flower", "Kung Fu Hustle", "Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon", "My Sassy Girl", "Volcano High", "Paprika", "Good Night and Good Luck", "The Shawshank Redemption", "Royal Air Force: Wings Of Honimaise", "A Tale Of Two Sisters", etc.
are you serious...[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah, EWWW to "House Of Flying Daggers", "Curse Of the Golden Flower", "Kung Fu Hustle", "Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon", "My Sassy Girl", "Volcano High", "Paprika", "Good Night and Good Luck", "The Shawshank Redemption", "Royal Air Force: Wings Of Honimaise", "A Tale Of Two Sisters", etc.
[quote name='mykevermin']You have a point that, given the sales of Transformers (and I'm skeptical of both DVD and HD DVD sales figures until Friday), Bay is complaining about a pittance of the money he's earning from home video sales. Nevertheless, calling him a baby, ignoring his contribution to the first film (and wishing someone else would direct the second), and not allowing him to voice his opinion as a director is being quite juvenile yourselves (given all the mudslinging HD DVD folks have thrown at Bay while they simultaneously flail about and brag about having such an amazing blockbuster and film on their format). Let's be a bit more honest about who is having a hissy fit, shall we?[/QUOTE]
I thought Transformers sucked so blah on on half of your post. Thanks again for confusing other people with myself.
I just think it's funny how he throws a hissy fit about the Paramount deal, changes his mind after Paramount tells him to shut the hell up/him realizing how much money he would lose by not making Transformers 2 and then starts complaining again this time saying "let the people decide" when the people have had no choice on either side since day one.
Let me guess, his stupid friends were talking to him at 4 in the morning again and told him he would have made a billion dollars more if they released on Blu-Ray since they are outselling HD-DVD 54454156165156:1?
I thought Transformers sucked so blah on on half of your post. Thanks again for confusing other people with myself.
I just think it's funny how he throws a hissy fit about the Paramount deal, changes his mind after Paramount tells him to shut the hell up/him realizing how much money he would lose by not making Transformers 2 and then starts complaining again this time saying "let the people decide" when the people have had no choice on either side since day one.
Let me guess, his stupid friends were talking to him at 4 in the morning again and told him he would have made a billion dollars more if they released on Blu-Ray since they are outselling HD-DVD 54454156165156:1?
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Ah, lovely. Yet another "I don't like that he threw a hissy fit" followed up immediately by a hissy fit, as if he's not entitled to an opinion.
[quote name='mykevermin']Ah, lovely. Yet another "I don't like that he threw a hissy fit" followed up immediately by a hissy fit, as if he's not entitled to an opinion.[/QUOTE]
Ah, lovely. Yet another myke post that doesn't even attempt to counter-point. I'm surprised you didn't try to squeeze something in about how your pillar of hope Micheal Bay/Disney/Fox can't be swayed by M$'s dirty money unlike Paramount who WAS BRIBED TO JOIN HD-DVD
And he can have his own opinion, I don't care about that but that doesn't mean I have to accept it as the truth. There are a ton of people who think that John Edwards can actually talk to dead people but I'll be damned if I won't call them retards for believing it.
Ah, lovely. Yet another myke post that doesn't even attempt to counter-point. I'm surprised you didn't try to squeeze something in about how your pillar of hope Micheal Bay/Disney/Fox can't be swayed by M$'s dirty money unlike Paramount who WAS BRIBED TO JOIN HD-DVD
And he can have his own opinion, I don't care about that but that doesn't mean I have to accept it as the truth. There are a ton of people who think that John Edwards can actually talk to dead people but I'll be damned if I won't call them retards for believing it.
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What's in your post to counterpoint? Conjecture?
[quote name='guyver2077']any disc would sell more if on both formats.....
sony should release spidey on hd so they can make more money[/QUOTE]
[quote name='LinkinPrime']Exactly same situation here. If Sony wanted to make more money then why not go neutral...its the same crap everytime.[/QUOTE]
They would make more money, in the short run, on all their movie releases, but seeing as how they have more to benefit, in the long run, from BD winning, this wouldn't really make them more money in the end. Sony benefits from BD winning, whereas Micheal Bay doesn't really benefit from HD-DVD winning.
sony should release spidey on hd so they can make more money[/QUOTE]
[quote name='LinkinPrime']Exactly same situation here. If Sony wanted to make more money then why not go neutral...its the same crap everytime.[/QUOTE]
They would make more money, in the short run, on all their movie releases, but seeing as how they have more to benefit, in the long run, from BD winning, this wouldn't really make them more money in the end. Sony benefits from BD winning, whereas Micheal Bay doesn't really benefit from HD-DVD winning.
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[quote name='dpatel']They would make more money, in the short run, on all their movie releases, but seeing as how they have more to benefit, in the long run, from BD winning, this wouldn't really make them more money in the end. Sony benefits from BD winning, whereas Micheal Bay doesn't really benefit from HD-DVD winning.[/quote]
That's my point...everyone that's exclusive to a format is in it to win whether deals were made or not.
That's my point...everyone that's exclusive to a format is in it to win whether deals were made or not.
[quote name='Sporadic']It's 1% of the market, so yeah he should just shut his mouth at the moment.
The HD-DVD version sold what 190,000 the first week? He missed out on what (being very nice) 300,000 sales by it not being on Blu-Ray thanks to PS3 fans?
The DVD version sold 8.3 million it's first week. He's just throwing a hissy fit over something he knows nothing about....again.[/QUOTE]
It's not a lot in comparison to the money he is making on DVD, I'll agree with that. But, however insignificant the amount is, I don't see how forgoing sales (even if it's only 300K) can be a good thing. It seems he really gained nothing out of this, so I can see why he is upset.
The HD-DVD version sold what 190,000 the first week? He missed out on what (being very nice) 300,000 sales by it not being on Blu-Ray thanks to PS3 fans?
The DVD version sold 8.3 million it's first week. He's just throwing a hissy fit over something he knows nothing about....again.[/QUOTE]
It's not a lot in comparison to the money he is making on DVD, I'll agree with that. But, however insignificant the amount is, I don't see how forgoing sales (even if it's only 300K) can be a good thing. It seems he really gained nothing out of this, so I can see why he is upset.
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[quote name='geko29']I can't speak for any of his previous comments, but I understand where this most recent one comes from. I'm also planning to hold off on buying many Sony/Disney titles until the week of November 13th (Shrek3 release) or December 11 (Bourne Ultimatum release) when they're likely to be on BOGOF again. Not knocking the quality of the movies, as nearly all the BR titles I'm interested in are either Sony or BVHE. I'm just trying to uphold the mission statement of the site. [/quote]
Fair enough. But I can't see them doing another B1g1 sale like this gain, but I could be wrong. And you must buy Crank if it ever goes on sale.
[/quote] Fair enough. But I can't see them doing another B1g1 sale like this gain, but I could be wrong. And you must buy Crank if it ever goes on sale.
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[quote name='H.Cornerstone']... And you must buy Crank if it ever goes on sale. [/quote]
I'll be importing an HD DVD copy from Germany when it releases towards the end of this year I absolutely loved that movie.
[/quote] I'll be importing an HD DVD copy from Germany when it releases towards the end of this year
I absolutely loved that movie.[quote name='dpatel']It's not a lot in comparison to the money he is making on DVD, I'll agree with that. But, however insignificant the amount is, I don't see how forgoing sales (even if it's only 300K) can be a good thing. It seems he really gained nothing out of this, so I can see why he is upset.[/QUOTE]
Well, at this point, he might as well be complaining about why Transformers weren't released on VHS. He probably would have made just as much money from that.
And it isn't that he's missing out on sales, I can understand why he flustered but he's a hired gun. Hired guns don't get to make decisions plus he madeing bank from the box office/home video. That little bit of cash shouldn't be that big of a lost. Not to mention you know they are going to make a Transformers 2, which should make him even more money than the first one since he can scream to the heavens "I'M MICHAEL BAY"
My biggest problem is how he's basically pulling the same shit he did earlier when he lost just about any credibility he had about the subject since he has no idea what he's talking about.
[quote name='Michael Bay']"For them to deny people who have Blu-ray sucks! They were progressive to have two formats. No Transformers 2 for me!"[/QUOTE]
[quote name='Michael Bay a day later']"Last night (August 20) at dinner I was having dinner with three Blu-ray owners, they were pissed about no 'Transformers' Blu-ray and I drank the Kool-Aid hook, line and sinker. So at 1:30 in the morning I posted -- nothing good ever comes out of early a.m. posts mind you -- I overreacted. I heard where Paramount is coming from and the future of HD and players that will be close to the $200 mark which is the magic number. I like what I heard.
"As a director, I'm all about people seeing films in the best quality possible, and I saw and heard first-hand people upset about a corporate decision.
"So today I saw '300' on (HD DVD), it rocks! So I think I might be back on to do Transformers 2!"[/QUOTE]
Well, at this point, he might as well be complaining about why Transformers weren't released on VHS. He probably would have made just as much money from that.
And it isn't that he's missing out on sales, I can understand why he flustered but he's a hired gun. Hired guns don't get to make decisions plus he made
ing bank from the box office/home video. That little bit of cash shouldn't be that big of a lost. Not to mention you know they are going to make a Transformers 2, which should make him even more money than the first one since he can scream to the heavens "I'M MICHAEL BAY" My biggest problem is how he's basically pulling the same shit he did earlier when he lost just about any credibility he had about the subject since he has no idea what he's talking about.
[quote name='Michael Bay']"For them to deny people who have Blu-ray sucks! They were progressive to have two formats. No Transformers 2 for me!"[/QUOTE]
[quote name='Michael Bay a day later']"Last night (August 20) at dinner I was having dinner with three Blu-ray owners, they were pissed about no 'Transformers' Blu-ray and I drank the Kool-Aid hook, line and sinker. So at 1:30 in the morning I posted -- nothing good ever comes out of early a.m. posts mind you -- I overreacted. I heard where Paramount is coming from and the future of HD and players that will be close to the $200 mark which is the magic number. I like what I heard.
"As a director, I'm all about people seeing films in the best quality possible, and I saw and heard first-hand people upset about a corporate decision.
"So today I saw '300' on (HD DVD), it rocks! So I think I might be back on to do Transformers 2!"[/QUOTE]
Wah wah wah, the director of the biggest movie to hit HD DVD prefers BD.
I think it's hilarious.
Funnier than when I walked into BB a few days ago to see Transformers being played on a 70" XBR.
It looked so damn ugly!
Then I saw why, it was the DVD version being played on a BD standalone.
I think it's hilarious.
Funnier than when I walked into BB a few days ago to see Transformers being played on a 70" XBR.
It looked so damn ugly!
Then I saw why, it was the DVD version being played on a BD standalone.
[quote name='Sarang01']Oh yeah, EWWW to "House Of Flying Daggers", "Curse Of the Golden Flower", "Kung Fu Hustle", "Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon", "My Sassy Girl", "Volcano High", "Paprika", "Good Night and Good Luck", "The Shawshank Redemption", "Royal Air Force: Wings Of Honimaise", "A Tale Of Two Sisters", etc. [/QUOTE]
Wait, My Sassy Girl in HD?
[/QUOTE]Wait, My Sassy Girl in HD?
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[quote name='Sporadic']My biggest problem is how he's basically pulling the same shit he did earlier when he lost just about any credibility he had about the subject since he has no idea what he's talking about.[/QUOTE]
How's that lossless audio track on Transformers?
How's that lossless audio track on Transformers?
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[quote name='mykevermin']How's that lossless audio track on Transformers?[/QUOTE]
Did you actually get Transformers on blu ray? I know I showed my friend that it came out and he is probably going to get it when he gets that triple.
Did you actually get Transformers on blu ray? I know I showed my friend that it came out and he is probably going to get it when he gets that triple.
[quote name='dallow']I own as many copies of it as you do.
We both know it's turble.[/QUOTE]
Turble? Does that mean horrible? Because if so, I'm on board with you. Transformers/300 (two of the biggest HD cash cows) were horrible movies.
The point I was trying to make to myke is some version of it in HD with lossy audio is better than no version in HD and that we can talk about what ifs (Blu's early use of bad codecs/lack of extras/profile 1.1/etc) all we want but what's the fun in that?
We both know it's turble.[/QUOTE]
Turble? Does that mean horrible? Because if so, I'm on board with you. Transformers/300 (two of the biggest HD cash cows) were horrible movies.
The point I was trying to make to myke is some version of it in HD with lossy audio is better than no version in HD and that we can talk about what ifs (Blu's early use of bad codecs/lack of extras/profile 1.1/etc) all we want but what's the fun in that?
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[quote name='dallow']I own as many copies of it as you do.
We both know it's turble.
Casey, Transformers is HD DVD exclusive right now because of the Paramount deal.[/QUOTE]
I was referring to the old school transformers he made a post about a few weeks ago.
We both know it's turble.
Casey, Transformers is HD DVD exclusive right now because of the Paramount deal.[/QUOTE]
I was referring to the old school transformers he made a post about a few weeks ago.
[quote name='CaseyRyback']I was referring to the old school transformers he made a post about a few weeks ago.[/QUOTE]
Oh, I wasn't talking about that but no, I don't have it. I don't have Blu-Ray yet either. I'm waiting for well priced combo player before I dive in.
Oh, I wasn't talking about that but no, I don't have it. I don't have Blu-Ray yet either. I'm waiting for well priced combo player before I dive in.
[quote name='dallow']Wah wah wah, the director of the biggest movie to hit HD DVD prefers BD.
I think it's hilarious.
Funnier than when I walked into BB a few days ago to see Transformers being played on a 70" XBR.
It looked so damn ugly!
Then I saw why, it was the DVD version being played on a BD standalone.[/QUOTE]
Did it hurt when Sony put that chip in your head ?
How big is the scar ?
I think it's hilarious.
Funnier than when I walked into BB a few days ago to see Transformers being played on a 70" XBR.
It looked so damn ugly!
Then I saw why, it was the DVD version being played on a BD standalone.[/QUOTE]
Did it hurt when Sony put that chip in your head ?
How big is the scar ?
[quote name='Sporadic']Well, at this point, he might as well be complaining about why Transformers weren't released on VHS. He probably would have made just as much money from that.[/QUOTE]
Except that I don't think most retailers have carried VHS since 2004. VHS would've probably been more trouble than it was worth.
Like I said, his complaints are valid.
Just because he has already made so much money, there is really no reason for him to forgo additional (i.e. Blu-ray) sales. He has nothing to gain from it. Downplay the profits from Blu-ray all you want, but most people wouldn't be too happy with forgoing any sort of potential profit, no matter how much they already have and no matter how little that potential profit is.
By the way, I agree the potential profit made from BD would be pretty insignificant in the grand scheme of things, but that doesn't mean we should write it off so easily.
Except that I don't think most retailers have carried VHS since 2004. VHS would've probably been more trouble than it was worth.
Like I said, his complaints are valid.
And it isn't that he's missing out on sales, I can understand why he flustered but he's a hired gun. Hired guns don't get to make decisions plus he made
Just because he has already made so much money, there is really no reason for him to forgo additional (i.e. Blu-ray) sales. He has nothing to gain from it. Downplay the profits from Blu-ray all you want, but most people wouldn't be too happy with forgoing any sort of potential profit, no matter how much they already have and no matter how little that potential profit is.
By the way, I agree the potential profit made from BD would be pretty insignificant in the grand scheme of things, but that doesn't mean we should write it off so easily.
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[quote name='Sporadic']How's Transformers on Blu-Ray?[/QUOTE]
Not quite "the look and sound ofmissing lossless audio because our disc space is insufficient perfect," I'll tell you that much.
Not quite "the look and sound of
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[quote name='Sporadic']How's Transformers on Blu-Ray?[/quote]
How's Casino Royale on HD-DVD?
That's a very ignorant and juvenile apporach to take, and so was mike's wording. The fact that Paramount didn't include any form of losless audio is extremely weak, and people have a right to gripe about it.
How's Casino Royale on HD-DVD?
That's a very ignorant and juvenile apporach to take, and so was mike's wording. The fact that Paramount didn't include any form of losless audio is extremely weak, and people have a right to gripe about it.
[quote name='dpatel']Except that I don't think most retailers have carried VHS since 2004. VHS would've probably been more trouble than it was worth.
Like I said, his complaints are valid.
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In August.
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/s...les/Blu-ray,_HD_DVD_Overtake_VHS_in_Sales/845
[quote name='dpatel']Just because he has already made so much money, there is really no reason for him to forgo additional (i.e. Blu-ray) sales. He has nothing to gain from it. Downplay the profits from Blu-ray all you want, but most people wouldn't be too happy with forgoing any sort of potential profit, no matter how much they already have and no matter how little that potential profit is.
By the way, I agree the potential profit made from BD would be pretty insignificant in the grand scheme of things, but that doesn't mean we should write it off so easily.[/QUOTE]
The reason is the studio who hired him doesn't release on the format. He's a hired gun, he doesn't get to choose like Spielberg. You can say he's missing out of profits or whatever but he's free to leave (well not really he already signed the contract for T2) to go to Warner who is the only studio left neutral.
I would happily forgo the tiny profits from Blu-Ray sales for the guaranteed profits of T1 box office/home video and the soon to be dump truck of money from the T2 box office/home video. Only an idiot would sabotage his career for something that is so insignificant. After T2 he is basically free to go work on whatever he wants for whatever studio he wants for a massive amount of money.
Hell he gave up 30% of his director fee so he could film in LA with his crew instead of Canada/Mexico.
Like I said, his complaints are valid.
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In August.
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/s...les/Blu-ray,_HD_DVD_Overtake_VHS_in_Sales/845
[quote name='dpatel']Just because he has already made so much money, there is really no reason for him to forgo additional (i.e. Blu-ray) sales. He has nothing to gain from it. Downplay the profits from Blu-ray all you want, but most people wouldn't be too happy with forgoing any sort of potential profit, no matter how much they already have and no matter how little that potential profit is.
By the way, I agree the potential profit made from BD would be pretty insignificant in the grand scheme of things, but that doesn't mean we should write it off so easily.[/QUOTE]
The reason is the studio who hired him doesn't release on the format. He's a hired gun, he doesn't get to choose like Spielberg. You can say he's missing out of profits or whatever but he's free to leave (well not really he already signed the contract for T2) to go to Warner who is the only studio left neutral.
I would happily forgo the tiny profits from Blu-Ray sales for the guaranteed profits of T1 box office/home video and the soon to be dump truck of money from the T2 box office/home video. Only an idiot would sabotage his career for something that is so insignificant. After T2 he is basically free to go work on whatever he wants for whatever studio he wants for a massive amount of money.
Hell he gave up 30% of his director fee so he could film in LA with his crew instead of Canada/Mexico.
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[quote name='seanr1221']REALLY tempted to pick up pick up an HDDVD player, Heroes, Transformers, Hot Fuzz, plus 6 HDdvds.[/QUOTE]
Yea I am going to nab one. The extra 2 DVD's put me over the top. Probably going to get MI3 and the Departed as my free movies. Still plan on supporting blu ray more since they have more of the movies I want to see, but I figure all the free shit I am going to get makes the drive worth having.
Yea I am going to nab one. The extra 2 DVD's put me over the top. Probably going to get MI3 and the Departed as my free movies. Still plan on supporting blu ray more since they have more of the movies I want to see, but I figure all the free shit I am going to get makes the drive worth having.
[quote name='seanr1221']REALLY tempted to pick up pick up an HDDVD player, Heroes, Transformers, Hot Fuzz, plus 6 HDdvds.[/QUOTE]
Shit, if Blu-Ray had anything like that, I would jump on board in a heartbeat.
[quote name='H.Cornerstone']How's Casino Royale on HD-DVD?
That's a very ignorant and juvenile apporach to take, and so was mike's wording. The fact that Paramount didn't include any form of losless audio is extremely weak, and people have a right to gripe about it.[/QUOTE]
That was the point. The only thing myke can bring up besides "OMG DIRTY MONEY WHORES" is "OMG NO LOSELESS". Why respond with a giant rant when my post will either be completely ignored, cherry-picked or thrown off-topic?
He and 98% of HD people don't even have theing equipment to use it but by god they will whine about it if it's not included.
So they didn't add lossless to this title? So what? We don't even know the reason why they left it off. It could have been disc space or it could have been they didn't want to waste resources on it since it was already packed to the gills with extras or maybe they are holding on to it for the DVD style re-release when people actually start giving a damn about having loseless audio.
Myke tries to pull it out like a trump card as if they had to split the movie across two disc or only encoded it in 720p; when in reality it's about a far down the totem pole as possible on the scale of what matters. Hell, The Prestige which everybody said didn't have lossless audio on HD-DVD because they ran out of disc space is being released in Japan next year with TrueHD.
Shit, if Blu-Ray had anything like that, I would jump on board in a heartbeat.
[quote name='H.Cornerstone']How's Casino Royale on HD-DVD?
That's a very ignorant and juvenile apporach to take, and so was mike's wording. The fact that Paramount didn't include any form of losless audio is extremely weak, and people have a right to gripe about it.[/QUOTE]
That was the point. The only thing myke can bring up besides "OMG DIRTY MONEY WHORES" is "OMG NO LOSELESS". Why respond with a giant rant when my post will either be completely ignored, cherry-picked or thrown off-topic?
He and 98% of HD people don't even have the
ing equipment to use it but by god they will whine about it if it's not included.So they didn't add lossless to this title? So what? We don't even know the reason why they left it off. It could have been disc space or it could have been they didn't want to waste resources on it since it was already packed to the gills with extras or maybe they are holding on to it for the DVD style re-release when people actually start giving a damn about having loseless audio.
Myke tries to pull it out like a trump card as if they had to split the movie across two disc or only encoded it in 720p; when in reality it's about a far down the totem pole as possible on the scale of what matters. Hell, The Prestige which everybody said didn't have lossless audio on HD-DVD because they ran out of disc space is being released in Japan next year with TrueHD.
[quote name='seanr1221']Eh....I just fear the "paper weight" effect.[/QUOTE]
Like I've always said if it does die somehow, I don't think it will combo players are much more likely to become the standard if anything does, the movies will still work plus we get to indulge in the beautiful closeout sales and people desperately trying to sell them off on the cheap.
You have to look at the situation as the glass being half full instead of half empty
Like I've always said if it does die somehow, I don't think it will combo players are much more likely to become the standard if anything does, the movies will still work plus we get to indulge in the beautiful closeout sales and people desperately trying to sell them off on the cheap.
You have to look at the situation as the glass being half full instead of half empty
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