Madden 11 League-OFFICIAL CAG LEAGUE-That's all folks! Mini-tourney still coming tho!

[quote name='HydroX']Dallas Clark for WR/TE of the year! He'd be the legit #1 in receiving categories if it weren't for the overabused CPU games played by Mike Wallace, etc.
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While I agree Wallace's stats were absurd, let's not overlook that Clark had more than twice as many catches as anyone else on your team and more yards than any every player combined before we toss around words like "overabused". ;)

[quote name='MasterAwesome']Just curious...was Mathis the player you usually controlled on defense or was he getting sacks on his own? I've never controlled a lineman on defense so I don't know how hard it is to get past the O-line manually.[/QUOTE]

I control D-linemen on certain plays. It's really a function of how good the lineman is, if they have good moves they can get past blockers fairly easily. That's only a handful of guys in the game though. It's harder to control a poor lineman badly than it is for other players on the field, which is probably why most Madden players don't do it. I think a capable edge rusher in the hands of a good player could be a menace though, it's just tough to do.

[quote name='MasterAwesome']
Oh and I don't know how any of the other rookies have done this season (I think Sam Bradford had a pretty good year), but just in case...Armanti Edwards had 33 Receptions for 907 yards and 7 touchdowns, so maybe that's good enough for at least a nomination...I think that's a little better than what Percy Harvin had (last year's real Offensive ROTY). Maybe we can have a separate category of "College quarterbacks-turned-NFL-wide-receiver-rookie of the year for Armanti...he deserves it.[/QUOTE]


Demaryius Thomas (1374/15) and Dez Bryant (1273/18) both had ridiculous years, so one of them should probably get it.. Bradford threw 30 TDs but also threw 30 picks, so I wouldn't give it to him. It's a shame I didn't turn to Ryan Mathews earlier in the year or he would have been in the discussion as well. He had about 900 all-purpose yards and 12 TDs, having started less than half the year.
 
I don't know if we're voting or not, but if we are my MVP vote goes to Drew Brees. He didn't lead the league in yards or touchdowns, but he only threw 5 picks - all the guys ahead of him in the other stats had way more. That to me says his numbers were the result of amazing play, not just chucking it around. The receivers stats bear this out as well, since he spread the ball around very well: 7 guys with over 300 receiving yards on the season.
 
Oh btw.. It turns out there may be some intrigue left as to who wins the divisions with ties. The online franchise website has the Ravens and the Panthers winning (both incorrect based on tie-breakers) whereas the franchise in-game has the Steelers and Saints on top. That definitely changes my calculus a little bit for this upcoming game..
 
[quote name='bvharris']Bradford threw 30 TDs but also threw 30 picks, so I wouldn't give it to him. [/QUOTE]

In defense of Bradford, he threw 30 TDs to one of the WEAKEST receiving corps out there. Bradford was a beast.

And, I'm not sure where he ended up exactly, but his yardage total was very high too.
 
[quote name='bvharris']Oh btw.. It turns out there may be some intrigue left as to who wins the divisions with ties. The online franchise website has the Ravens and the Panthers winning (both incorrect based on tie-breakers) whereas the franchise in-game has the Steelers and Saints on top. That definitely changes my calculus a little bit for this upcoming game..[/QUOTE]

Ignore how it displays the standings on the website, it's definitely wrong on there with regards to tie-breakers. In-game is what matters and from what I've seen so far it appears to have been fixed.

Also:
16-0. :D
 
Tell me about it. My D was on fire too. Already a 98 yard pick six and a fumble recovery TD. Though you were torching me in some of the other attempts.

Solid suggested he leave and I play the CPU, which is fine with me. He'll improve his draft position at least. I appreciate it man - if our situations are reversed next season (which I hope isn't the case) I'll return the favor.
 
Eddie PM'ed me and said he can only play Friday since he has an exam he'll be studying for all week. Thus, Packers vs. Bears will not be taking place till Friday. He said he'll be available after 3 P.m. Eastern, so we're going to work out a time to play. I'm writing back to him right now.
 
Chargers beat the Broncos 31-13 to finish up the season at 11-4-1 and claim the 5th seed in the playoffs.

Sorry it didn't work out Solid, I really wanted to play you and based on how all the times we started went it would have been a great game. Thanks for letting me play the CPU, I managed to come out of the game healthy.

The starters played 1 quarter and built up a 21-0 game before coming out. Rivers threw 2 TDs to bring his season total up to 38. Billy Volek was "meh" as expected, going 10-20 with a TD and a pick.

The star of the day for the Chargers was definitely rookie MLB Donald Butler. After being buried on the depth chart all year he saw his first significant action of the year after the starters went out and recorded 3 sacks, making a strong case for more playing time in his sophomore season.

Looking forward to playing either the Steelers or Ravens, whoever Madden decides I'm getting. :D
 
Well, my nominations are as follows:D

Best QB, Chad Henne, 302 for 483 , 62.5% Completion, 5569 Passing Yards, 59 TD, 18 Int, Only 5 Sacks Allowed

Best WR, Brandon Marshall, 2878 Yards, 33 Touchdowns, 120 Receptions, 23.98 YPC, 1495 Yards After Catch

When Bess Went out midway through the season, Marshall stepped up (he had to, my other 3 wide receivers are all below 73.....)

Some may say i overabuse him. I say, "I take advantage of the offensive weapons i possess. It's not my fault you couldn't stop him!" (uber did a fine job, i might mention)

I refuse to make any recommendations for anyone on my defensive team.

I'm taking my entire defensive unit into a small dark room, and we're going to have a looooong "talk" about how many yards/points they allowed this season. (this talk may or not require a baseball bat and/or any other punishment my NEW defensive coordinator sees fit.)
 
[quote name='bvharris']ubernes - Is the waiting list in the OP up to date? Also, we should probably get a list together of who's coming back for season two. I've got a friend who might be interest in joining up if there are open teams.[/QUOTE]

Um, I believe so. Venom is coming back too, so I should probably add him. If anyone recalls someone besides the two listed in the OP and venom as people looking for a team in season 2 then please let me know. Once the playoffs start we will begin to fill those teams.

Also, if you are not staying for season 2 then let me know. I think everyone in now is staying. DeskLaser told me he's done on XBL so the Browns will be open too.
 
The Colts finish the year with 27 team sacks. I think that's an AFC leading stat, as I know BigAT has the NFC on lockdown with 31 or so? Robert Mathis finishes the season with 16 sacks total -- over double of the next closest player in the CAGFL -- as well as 23 tackles for a loss.

As for the question about if I user-controlled him: Sometimes I did, sometimes I didn't. I'll admit that the CPU gets sacks WAY easier if you don't control them, but you just have to know what "route" or direction to send them in and they'll do some damage (or at least free up another player to do it for them).
 
Games left:
Bears/Packers (playing Friday afternoon it looks like)
Lions/Vikings (were supposed to play tonight, but not sure what happened)

so we should have no problem advancing early Friday. keep me updated guys.

edit: so if the Bears beat the Packers and the Vikings beat the Lions, do the Vikings sneak into the playoffs or do the Bears hold the tiebreaker? just noticed these were all NFC North teams and there's some playoff implications here.
 
[quote name='bvharris']While I agree Wallace's stats were absurd, let's not overlook that Clark had more than twice as many catches as anyone else on your team and more yards than any every player combined before we toss around words like "overabused". ;)[/QUOTE]

My use of "overabused" is more towards the fact that Wallace had like 12 TDs in one game or whatever it was. Perhaps I should have said "absurd". Considering the majority of my Dallas Clark-age was against actual human players instead of blatantly exploiting the CPU AI for 18 TDs in a single game, I'd say I did pretty goddamn well. I think the CPU-controlled AI coverage on TE's is a little better in this year's game, as certain routes are just absolutely busted if you have a half-decent coverage LB on them.

Either way, Dallas Clark is the highest-rated TE in the game, so of course I'm going to throw to him all day long.

My play style has never changed over the many many years of EA Sports games. I probably shouldn't be saying this, but eh, whatever, the majority of you already know how I play... I've always heavily emphasized the TE position in the passing attack because it's something that people don't pay much attention to (at least, years ago, I know they didn't). In past NCAA games I've played as teams that may not have a star WR, but they have a slightly above average pass-catching TE, and you could really do some damage with him depending on the matchups.

It's really no different than someone audibling to get a LB covering Heyward-Bey or some other fast as hell WR covered by someone slow as shit (or nobody at all).
 
Yeah I think it's unfortunate (for the awards) that some people might be deliberately throwing it to one receiver to pad their stats or whatever. I'm not saying the Dolphins are DELIBERATELY doing this...but I noticed in his last 2 games, Brandon Marshall had around 40 catches for almost a thousand yards and 12 TDs or something (all rough estimates since I looked at it a while ago). Judging from the stats, it seems like Marshall or Wallace are obvious contenders for best receiver, but I'm personally more inclined to overlook both of them altogether and pick someone else. That's unfortunate though because I know Marshall and Wallace were both always among the top receivers throughout the entire season even before these "monster games" they had these past few weeks or whatever. I just don't really want to encourage people to be so one-sided in their passing game. I understand people want to do whatever it takes to win (which they should...to a point), but when it comes to these fun end-of-the-season awards, I don't think that kind of play style should be rewarded. Everyone's top priority should probably be winning their games, so if people want to throw to one receiver all the time to win games but have their receiver over-looked for the end-of-season awards, then that obviously makes sense and is the appropriate thing to do.

We've always ran the league by the philosophy of playing as close to "real NFL style" as possible, so it doesn't make sense that some of these receivers have games with 500-1000 yards receiving and 8 touchdowns. I understand that I might come off as hypocritical since DeAngelo Williams had about a 3000 yard season, but obviously the Panthers are an extremely rush-oriented team and I feel like rushing is a different situation altogether since you obviously have one back that gets 80-90% of the carries and it is inevitable that they break away for long gains from time to time. With receivers, I think it's different if one receiver is getting 15-20 catches a game while the rest of the receiving corps has a total of 5 catches. That's just me...I'm sure a lot of people disagree and probably still think I'm a hypocrite which is understandable.
 
[quote name='MasterAwesome']Yeah I think it's unfortunate (for the awards) that some people might be deliberately throwing it to one receiver to pad their stats or whatever. I'm not saying the Dolphins are DELIBERATELY doing this...but I noticed in his last 2 games, Brandon Marshall had around 40 catches for almost a thousand yards and 12 TDs or something (all rough estimates since I looked at it a while ago).[/QUOTE]

Regarding Marshall. I wouldn't argue with you at all if marshall had 70 or 80% of the receptions that chad henne threw. He unfortunately only had 39%. I've built my passing offense around Marshall, and getting him open. I'm not exploiting, and i'm not trying to "rack up stats". As Uber noticed 3 weeks ago, i start him at various positions in my receiving corps to play on mismatches.... i have 3x 73 OVR and 1x 68 WR's behind Marshall. I'm just saying. I'm trying to win games. Brandon Marshall and Ronnie Brown give me the best chance to win games. Should i stop throwing to them?
 
Yeah I know, the only thing I brought up regarding Marshall was the last 2 games. I thought you did a good job spreading the ball around throughout the whole season except for some reason the last 2 games Marshall had some ridiculous stats. You gotta understand how that might SEEM to look (even though it might not be the case). From a neutral perspective, if someone had gone through the entire season having a bunch of good games and then all of a sudden the last 2 games he had some over-the-top performances...it seems somewhat analogous to a student cramming right before a test. The mentality seems kind of like "man...only 2 games left in the season to make my case for receiver-of-the-year, I gotta get as many yards and touchdowns as possible now". My life is probably a lot less fulfilling and a lot more pathetic than the rest of you...so I like to spend a good bit of time looking over everyone's box scores from week to week to see if any performances stood out (just for fun...not to rat anyone out or anything), so I never noticed Marshall having any of these crazy amazing games until the last 2 weeks, that's why I was a little suspicious.

And you might have overlooked the part of my post where I talked about this...but I specifically said you definitely SHOULD do whatever it takes to win your game (in this case, heavily relying on Brandon Marshall). I said your priority should be winning games, so of course you should take advantage of all the threats on your team. The only thing is that I think it's unfair to just hand over these end-of-year awards just because someone throws it to the same receiver so much (that's not aimed at you...I'm just speaking generically). I'm in the exact same boat as you with your receiving corps, I'm the freaking Panthers (I have Steve Smith - rated 92, and then my next highest is 71 - Brandon LaFell and then a 68, 64, etc. etc.), so I understand where you're coming from. If you look at my stats though, Steve Smith has roughly the same number of catches as 3 of my other receivers. Granted...he did miss out on some weeks due to an injury, but it still would not have been too one-sided. I think the receivers in this game do a good enough job where you can put a lesser receiver in the same position as one of the elites and he can do a comparable job. Armanti Edwards (rated 64 or something) took over Steve Smith's role and he ended up having the best stats of any receiver on my team.

And I never even hinted at the suggestion that you're exploiting anything, sorry if it came off that way. Just from reading your posts you seem like one of the more respectable guys in this league so I'm sorry if you think I was calling you out for exploiting or racking up stats or anything...I don't know anyone in this league very well so unfortunately all I have to go by is the box scores for each game.
 
[quote name='ubernes']Games left:
Bears/Packers (playing Friday afternoon it looks like)

edit: so if the Bears beat the Packers and the Vikings beat the Lions, do the Vikings sneak into the playoffs or do the Bears hold the tiebreaker? just noticed these were all NFC North teams and there's some playoff implications here.[/QUOTE]
Actually Friday night.

As for the playoff picture in the NFC North, it all depends on both of us. If I win, I should be in outright. If the Vikings lose, I should be in outright. I have no idea what would happen if I lose and he wins though. I'm guessing I'll be in since I have the edge in conference wins?
 
[quote name='ubernes']What awards are we doing btw? MVP, OROY, DROY, OPOY and DPOY? Coach of the year?[/QUOTE]

Oh, I was under the assumption that we were going to do separate awards for running backs, receivers, and QBs but that works too. I guess it would be too much to do one for each major offensive position so I like your way to simplify things. In that case...I guess I'd have to retract my nomination of DeAngelo Williams for Best RB and put him I guess at OPOY? Or possibly MVP.....I dunno.
 
Just a warning: I tried to do awards last season and they broke down for precisely this reason. I can easily see the same thing happening again. We're never going to come to an understanding on whether those gaudy stats should count.
 
it doesnt matter who we play... we're gonna be the underdogs so i aint worried about the standings.... Ed Reed, Ed Reed, Ed Reed for DPOY!
 
Ed Reed is NOTHING....how many safeties does he have?!? Beason has one! You can't freaking compete with that!

And people shouldn't sweat too much over these awards...they don't mean anything. They're just for fun and should serve the purpose of rewarding someone and making them happy for a little while...not taking anything away from anyone else. I can't imagine someone being outraged over losing a meaningless award, but I can speak for myself when I say I felt pretty good when Urlacher got nominated (I can't remember if he won) for the DPOY last season when I was the Bears.
 
[quote name='bvharris']Just a warning: I tried to do awards last season and they broke down for precisely this reason. I can easily see the same thing happening again. We're never going to come to an understanding on whether those gaudy stats should count.[/QUOTE]

Well, we can just open up some polls with the top 5 nominations or Doom can just tell us to buzz off and decide on his own. Either way works for me. I don't think anyone is going to get too upset either way. It is just for fun.
 
[quote name='MasterAwesome']Ed Reed is NOTHING....how many safeties does he have?!? Beason has one! You can't freaking compete with that![/QUOTE]

I'll see Beason's measly two-point safety and raise hm 5 forced fumbles... that either were returned for 6 or were parlayed into 6 by a combination of, but not limited to, Flacco, Rice, Heap, Mason, Boldin, and/or Thomas...

***Random and completely irrelevant but being a Panther fan, it's my duty to report (most likely old) news: The atrocity that is the Carolina Panther offense welcomes their latest in a long line of underachieving, non factor WRs... Devin Thomas
 
Yeah I read about that a few days ago. It's kind of sad that our receiving corps is starting to consist of other teams' "leftovers". Any receiver that a different team tosses out, we pick them up. I wanna start an "Armanti Edwards for QB" bandwagon...that one scramble he had last game for 10 yards or whatever was one of the most exciting plays I had seen from our offense this year. He seems like he could develop into a poor man's Michael Vick...which doesn't sound too bad.
 
[quote name='ubernes']Well, we can just open up some polls with the top 5 nominations or Doom can just tell us to buzz off and decide on his own. Either way works for me. I don't think anyone is going to get too upset either way. It is just for fun.[/QUOTE]

This.
 
[quote name='HydroX']My use of "overabused" is more towards the fact that Wallace had like 12 TDs in one game or whatever it was. Perhaps I should have said "absurd". Considering the majority of my Dallas Clark-age was against actual human players instead of blatantly exploiting the CPU AI for 18 TDs in a single game, I'd say I did pretty goddamn well.[/QUOTE]

Im pretty laid back and don't care about "post season awards" but its annoying to hear you say all those things. Take the stats away, does it REALLY matter?

Just take that game away so I dont have to hear you or anybody talk about it again.

1895 yards / 74 Rec / 23 TDs

Now we all win.
 
It may have been said, but if we are going to vote for awards there should be a rule that you can't vote for a player/coach/unit on your own team.
 
[quote name='Zurezo']Im pretty laid back and don't care about "post season awards" but its annoying to hear you say all those things. Take the stats away, does it REALLY matter?

Just take that game away so I dont have to hear you or anybody talk about it again.[/QUOTE]

while I do agree that the post season awards don't really matter, it is fun to have players' performances recognized by your peers...

I understand the frustration with having that one game's stats lambasted as if the sole purpose was to pad stats...but you have to understand that 700 yards and 18 tds is a full season's worth of stats for many receivers. There's no way you finished that game and didn't expect to hear about those numbers. I don't think anyone is really trying to annoy you with the conversation about it...just trying to figure out if details about stats will have an effect on the deliberation process for the awards that so many of us enjoy
 
[quote name='ubernes']Well, we can just open up some polls with the top 5 nominations or Doom can just tell us to buzz off and decide on his own. Either way works for me. I don't think anyone is going to get too upset either way. It is just for fun.[/QUOTE]

Well you guys let me know what you want to do (voting or not) I'm looking at full stat lines because the league leaders leaves off other important stats.

As for the categories, I will do all of the regular end of the year awards and I'll throw in a few of my own.
 
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[quote name='Doomtime']Well you guys let me know what you want to do (voting or not) I'm looking at full stat lines because the league leaders leaves off other important stats.

As for the categories, I will do all of the regular end of the year awards and I'll throw in a few of my own.[/QUOTE]

I think it would likely be better if you just compile the awards on your own. You've done a fine job so far and getting everyone involved will likely just make things far too messy. Too many cooks.

[quote name='Mr Grand Cru']So are we gonna do the pro bowl type game after the season ?[/QUOTE]

I'll definitely play if this happens.
 
[quote name='PacerPerspect']It may have been said, but if we are going to vote for awards there should be a rule that you can't vote for a player/coach/unit on your own team.[/QUOTE]

I agree with this. In the context of bonkers Madden stats, none of my guys are deserving anyway. That said, I think Doom should just pick.

Maybe we should have an "Offensive Balance" award or something for teams whose players put up the most realistic, while good, stats. Ravens, Raiders, Giants, Chargers, etc all spring to mind as teams which spread the ball around and didn't put up bananas numbers with any one player. Ray Rice, for example, had an amazing season - over 1800 yards and 18 scores - but not one which couldn't happen in the NFL (except for maybe the 7.55 ypc).
 
[quote name='bvharris']
Maybe we should have an "Offensive Balance" award or something for teams whose players put up the most realistic, while good, stats. Ravens, Raiders, Giants, Chargers, etc all spring to mind as teams which spread the ball around and didn't put up bananas numbers with any one player. Ray Rice, for example, had an amazing season - over 1800 yards and 18 scores - but not one which couldn't happen in the NFL (except for maybe the 7.55 ypc).[/QUOTE]

If we were to do this, I believe the Texans would/should be at the center of that discussion...:cool: A.J., Slaton and Schaub all had very good (realistic) seasons. Walter, Jones and Daniels were very good complimentary pieces as well.
 
[quote name='RamesuThe1']If we were to do this, I believe the Texans would/should be at the center of that discussion...:cool: A.J., Slaton and Schaub all had very good (realistic) seasons. Walter, Jones and Daniels were very good complimentary pieces as well.[/QUOTE]

The purpose of the "etc" was to include other teams I didn't have time to look up. ;)
 
so the afc playoff picture is set right? do the Ravens head to pittsburgh to claim the afc north as the Ravens' or do we go to houston to show that week 14 was no fluke... gotta get my trash talk ready
 
[quote name='Deuce20602']so the afc playoff picture is set right? do the Ravens head to pittsburgh to claim the afc north as the Ravens' or do we go to houston to show that week 14 was no fluke... gotta get my trash talk ready[/QUOTE]
Waiting on Madden to decide that for us. It's looking like you may end up with the wild card though.
 
[quote name='bvharris']Ray Rice, for example, had an amazing season - over 1800 yards and 18 scores - but not one which couldn't happen in the NFL (except for maybe the 7.55 ypc).[/QUOTE]

bv's endorsement for Ray Rice for OMVP :D
 
[quote name='Deuce20602']so the afc playoff picture is set right? do the Ravens head to pittsburgh to claim the afc north as the Ravens' or do we go to houston to show that week 14 was no fluke... gotta get my trash talk ready[/QUOTE]

My friend...you may be in for a very rude awakening
 
[quote name='Deuce20602']so the afc playoff picture is set right? do the Ravens head to pittsburgh to claim the afc north as the Ravens' or do we go to houston to show that week 14 was no fluke... gotta get my trash talk ready[/QUOTE]

If Madden sorts it out properly, you will go to Houston and I will go to Pitt. I'd give it about a 50/50 shot they actually do it correctly though. :D

[quote name='Deuce20602']bv's endorsement for Ray Rice for OMVP :D[/QUOTE]

I already threw my endorsement behind Drew Brees a few pages back. Rice had a great year though.
 
I'm gonna wait to do my talkin til I know who we play.... I already wasted some good material on the possibility of a Ravens-Chargers match up
 
[quote name='Deuce20602']I'm gonna wait to do my talkin til I know who we play.... I already wasted some good material on the possibility of a Ravens-Chargers match up[/QUOTE]

That was your good material? ;)

If it does shake out that way, I'm rooting for you. I'm hoping to avoid a return trip to Oakland as long as I can manage (even though I'm the only one who dinged his armor this year).
 
lol...good is a relative term. About Doom's armor... I'm sure it was tested a couple times but not by the Ravens. Thanks to a couple posts about fried raven, we've been in the lab studying the Raiders (and Giants) for some time now
 
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