Madden 12 League-OFFICIAL CAG LEAGUE-Week 3 live. Deadline Monday night.

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[quote name='Doomtime']Texans @ Chiefs at around Midnight EST. Will the Texans shock the world?[/QUOTE]

Let's hope they will...
 
[quote name='ubernes']I assume we wrap divisional Fri, conference Sat, Superbowl Sunday... Draft Tursday night? I would love to draft Saturday but that doesn't seem likey. Does Tuesday at 8 or 9pm est work?[/QUOTE]


why not let's plan to have the draft sunday afternoon....

If we cant play 6 games (3 more divisional)(2 conference)(1 superbowl) in 3 nights(thursday/fri/sat)-72 hours!...somethings wrong. :D

I'm personally fine with tuesday...but i know people travel tues/wed for thanksgiving with family out of town/state..... could be kind of conflicting.
 
[quote name='siradam134']why not let's plan to have the draft sunday afternoon....

If we cant play 6 games (3 more divisional)(2 conference)(1 superbowl) in 3 nights(thursday/fri/sat)-72 hours!...somethings wrong. :D

I'm personally fine with tuesday...but i know people travel tues/wed for thanksgiving with family out of town/state..... could be kind of conflicting.[/QUOTE]

as long as sunday afternoon is after 8 :), i'm good
 
[quote name='ballhawk20']Saints advance to the NFC championship game! Final score 30-18! Gg augmog[/QUOTE]

Wow huge upset. Mog usually turns his game way up in the playoffs. A new champion is guaranteed!
 
Panthers 20
Giants 10

BIG win for Carolina... Mike Goodson ran 14 times for 57 yards and Ryan Torain had himself a game with 5 carries for 81 yards. Newton went 8-13 for 117 yards and a TD pass to Smitty. The defense hassled Eli Manning all game to the tune of 4 sacks (3 by Marcus Stroud), and 5 INTs(J. Pugh, J. Beason, B. Hogan, C. Gamble, C. Godfrey). Greg Hardy and Marcus Stroud also forced a fumble but we didnt recover them. GG BigAt
 
[quote name='Deuce20602']as long as sunday afternoon is after 8 :), i'm good[/QUOTE]

i was thinking more in the line of 10am-5pm est sort of thing... lol... these bloody drafts take FOREVER.
 
[quote name='siradam134']i was thinking more in the line of 10am-5pm est sort of thing... lol... these bloody drafts take FOREVER.[/QUOTE]

i can do 10am... i got somethin that takes me out the house on sundays from 5-8pm
 
[quote name='RamesuThe1']These playoffs have already been very interesting...[/QUOTE]

Two upsets though I know Ballhawk and Deuce aren't slouches. I'm not taking those Texans lightly. Charles is about to go off!

This sets it up for Saints-Panthers III to determine a Superbowl birth!
 
Panthers - 20
Giants - 10

Part of me doesn't even feel bad about losing this one, the Madden gods were just against me. For every good thing that I did, something huge came crashing down on me to ruin my momentum. I got a sack-fumble on Newton and immediately after the Panthers recovered there was a facemask penalty on the tackle of the recovering player. It went from a 3rd and 20+ to a 1st and goal for the Panthers that resulted in a touchdown. I had a nice run on second down to setup 3rd and short inside the redzone, that was called back on a holding penalty setting up 2nd and 21, I never ended up scoring on that drive. 0 penalties called against the Panthers. Eli was just throwing balls straight at the other team.

I've got to say though, I didn't appreciate some of the stuff you were doing on offense. Jamming on the sprint button the second the ball is snapped, then rocket catching the ball down the field? Come on man, that's some Madden Bus type bullshit.
http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/102813823
 
[quote name='BigAT']I've got to say though, I didn't appreciate some of the stuff you were doing on offense. Jamming on the sprint button the second the ball is snapped, then rocket catching the ball down the field? Come on man, that's some Madden Bus type bullshit.
http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/102813823[/QUOTE]

i never rocket caught anything. the pass Gettis caught was supposed to be a fade route... i lobbed it up, then i clicked on Gettis and pulled down on the stick and jumped... his spectacular catch did the rest. as far as sprinting right after the snap... if u watch the play closely, you'll see that the right side of ur d-line came clean into the backfield. I shifted my line to the left to give Cam time to let the route develop. If i had just took off running with Cam down the field, i could understand the irritation but I dont see why what i did was a problem. I have a mobile QB, so i used his mobility in conjunction with some decent blocking and a timely reception to get a first down.
 
sunday or tuesday nights work best for me.... and when i played duece i had no.complaints except cam played like manning and tore up secondary up... not cool duece
 
Since there's a bit of downtime here in this league, I've got a question for you guys. What is the general feeling on somebody running a hurry up offense pretty much any time they've had a "successful play". I've been trying to play some online ranked lately to try to improve and this seems to be a standard practice on there. It's one thing to do it as a 2 minute drill, but I'm talking the entire game. It''ll be like "Oh, I just gained 8 yards...HURRY UP!!!"

Obviously, they're doing it so you can't call a better defensive play and have to audible or use a timeout. But I don't know, it just feels cheap. But that could be because I'm not a master of audibling/hot routing too. Honestly, I'm not even sure if it's a banned practice in this league or if all the teams in the playoffs use this "strategy". Just curious what the consensus is on this one. Thanks.
 
i personally use it alot if im down because time is money u need the clock so if im down by a couple scores i will use if everytime... also i would use it if im using 4 wr and u have 4 linebackers since its a mismatch i dont think neones complained about my playstyle
 
I think the hurry up depends on the situation. If you've got the defense in a terrible set, hurry up. I also like to run it once in awhile for three quick plays. Something like pass - pass - run or the inverse. It can really throw the D off.

I've never ran it in a league game. Too big of a chance that you could piss the other guy off and get on the shit list :D
 
I've used the hurry up some, usually as a change of pace after a positive play rather than just doing it because the defense has a bad play selected. I don't think I've ever used it to repeat the same offensive play just because it worked the first time, though.
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']I've used the hurry up some, usually as a change of pace after a positive play rather than just doing it because the defense has a bad play selected. I don't think I've ever used it to repeat the same offensive play just because it worked the first time, though.[/QUOTE]

I usually audible to something else as well. Like I said run-run-pass or pass-pass-run is killer. It is also helpful when I can't get my offense going.
 
I would venture to guess that I've used hurry-up maybe 3 times in my entire Madden "career" (ranked matches/league games combined). I couldn't give you a reason why...it's just one of those aspects of Madden that I have never bothered using, and so since I've neglected it for so long...I never think to use it these days. In this league...I think hurry-up actually works AGAINST you if you're using it to score as quickly as possible to beat the clock, since there is no accelerated run-off. So instead of the 2 seconds it takes to go to your playbook and pick the play you want (and have your team already lined up and ready to snap the ball), you have to wait for all the 29 speed o-lineman to run up the field after a successful pass and line up to snap the ball.

As far as using it when your opponent is in a bad defensive formation though...I don't think it's right to make your opponent pay during an entire drive just for using a 46 defense because they thought you'd come out running it on 1st and 10 with 4 minutes left in the 2nd quarter in a tied game. Not everyone in this league waits for their opponent to pick their offensive play first and then meticulously plans their defensive play according to the offensive formation. So if the offense is lined up with 4 WRs during the aforementioned circumstances and the D is lined up in 46 formation...using hurry-up just to exploit that defense is a little unnecessary I think (for a league game). In a real NFL game...coaches can quickly sub in a CB for a linebacker in between hurry-up plays (if I'm not mistaken), so in those situations where Madden does not give you the same opportunities as in real life...I think we should try to steer clear of it as much as possible.
 
Hurry up is a really nice way to get out of an offensive slump, sometimes if I am thinking too much as a QB, or locking on to one reciever all the time, I'll run hurry up just to mix it up and hit whoever gets open.

The point that in the NFL the D can sub, where the can't in Madden, is probably the best reason to put some restictions on it.

But if someone runs it between 10 and 20 times in a game, I don't think it should be banned. A lot of people have very different styles in Madden, and I think being good at the hurry up offense can be a big part of someones style.

If you use it all game thats bs and should not be allowed.
 
[quote name='Deuce20602']i never rocket caught anything. the pass Gettis caught was supposed to be a fade route... i lobbed it up, then i clicked on Gettis and pulled down on the stick and jumped... his spectacular catch did the rest. as far as sprinting right after the snap... if u watch the play closely, you'll see that the right side of ur d-line came clean into the backfield. I shifted my line to the left to give Cam time to let the route develop. If i had just took off running with Cam down the field, i could understand the irritation but I dont see why what i did was a problem. I have a mobile QB, so i used his mobility in conjunction with some decent blocking and a timely reception to get a first down.[/QUOTE]

You said you didn't rocket catch...then went on to describe a rocket catch. The only reason my D-line came free at all was because you shifted the protection since you knew you were sprinting over there the second the ball was snapped. If you had run the play normally they wouldn't have come through, it's not like you reacted.
 
[quote name='BigAT']You said you didn't rocket catch...then went on to describe a rocket catch. The only reason my D-line came free at all was because you shifted the protection since you knew you were sprinting over there the second the ball was snapped. If you had run the play normally they wouldn't have come through, it's not like you reacted.[/QUOTE]

how is going up for a jump ball a rocket catch? i STOPPED his forward motion... a rocket catch has a receiver jump 5 or 6 yards TO the ball. You're right, they came free cuz zi shifted the line. Had i ran the play normally (like i did earlier in the game), i would've gotten hit before i could get the pass off... i watched Pierre-Paul come off the edge and beat Jeff Otah 6 or 7 different times on that drive alone. I'm an athlete and a competitor. If it's one thing i've learned over my 15 or so years of being in competitive sports, it's that the best players/teams are the ones that adjust the fastest to what the opposition is doing to stop them. Pierre-Paul is clearly your best pass rusher and the left side of my line is the best so to maximize my protection to get the play off, i shifted my line. To stay behind that maximized protection, i rolled out to the left, creating more space between Newton and Pierre-Paul. The play, as a whole, i learned WATCHING THE REAL PANTHERS RUN IT. It wasn't a scam, it wasn't a glitch, and it definitely wasn't bullshit. I recognized man coverage and took advantage of Cam's mobility, and Gettis' height and leaping ability. The play speaks for itself... it's a legit play made under legit circumstances and I've got nothing else to say about it. :whistle2:#

ok.... after researching rocket catching in madden 12... i understand where ur coming from. having said that, if what i saw was the best rocket catching this game has to offer, the term "rocket catch" needs to be retired. Going up and getting the ball is nothing more than user catching the ball at it's highest point. thats what every WR (and DB for that matter) is taught to do. had you been more disciplined on the safety or the CB that u switched to, u would've been in position to at least deflect the pass... just like u deflected one that I threw to Smitty across the middle of the field when i tried to go get the ball with him.
 
It's very unlikely I'm going to be able to play tonight.. My internet has been out all day, and though it's back on now it's being glacially slow, I wouldn't trust it with anything approaching a Madden game. I've let Zurezo know what's up and we'll see what happens. Sorry if I'm the only one holding us up (I literally haven't been able to check the thread all day until now).
 
[quote name='staticz']I think n8 was just looking for opinions, not sure there has been a problem with no huddles[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I was just curious about it because if it's something I could be using, but I'm not because I perceive it a certain way, then I'm just limiting myself...which makes it that much harder to improve when certain teams are using tactics that others didn't know were ok. Not that anybody cares for my opinion, but I do think that's something this league does a poor job communicating. Some things only get discussed after the fact when somebody has had a problem.

It is amusing how ambiguous some people try to be though, saying "well, as long as it's not all the time". But that becomes so subjective...and you can't run a league that way. If there's no rule against it (or it isn't something situational like going for it on 4th down), then it's ok. Simple as that. But this was one that I wasn't vehemently for or against because I can see both sides of the argument: "take advantage of mismatches" vs. "abusing it because you can't outsmart someone play call for play call". And like I said, I really had no clue what the league ruling was...or if there even was one.
 
I think it all comes down to one thing that BV has hit on in the past. If you do it (and by it I mean anything) be ready to defend yourself. If someone loses and they think you were being cheap they are going to complain about it in the thread so you have to be able to defend yourself. I've gotten called out for running my RBs to the outside to "get around a defender" before.

So as ambiguous as it may be, as long as you feel like you can defend yourself go for it. I think rules have been hit on for most things but the main post probably could stand to be updated.
 
As for the draft, I still think Tuesday may be best. If we can pull something together for Sunday, maybe around 8pm again, then sure let's do it. We should be advanced by then. I'd love to draft right after the 4pm games (so 7pm EST or so), but I think we had an issue with that time before.

So our options look like Tuesday (or maybe even Monday) night at 8-9pm EST, or Sunday around the same time. Early Saturday would be great, but I have a feeling we'll be held up unless the remaining teams can commit to playing Friday and early Saturday right now.
 
[quote name='ubernes']So are we just waiting on Pats-Steelers right now?[/QUOTE]

It's looking grim. My internet is at least on now, but it's operating at about 56K speeds, so Madden is out of the question. I've been on the phone with Comcast all night, and predictably they've been of zero help. I've been e-mailing with Zurezo, and his parents are coming into town tomorrow so it looks like the earliest we could get it in would be late tomorrow night. And even that assumes my internet will cooperate. Since I at least have some connectivity I'm going to try to log into the franchise right now and promote you back to commish, just in case I can't get this thing fixed by tomorrow and I need to be booted. This sucks guys, obviously the timing is dreadful and I hate more than anything to be the one holding us up.
 
Chiefs over Texans in a hard fought 28-17. The Texans were within 4 pretty much the whole game but were never able to take the lead.

The Texans did an excellent job stopping the run. Charles was held to 102 yards on 20 carries and 2 TD.

The Chiefs D failed to show up as Arian Foster stomped them for 160 yards on 15 carries and 1 TD. We're talking untouched runs that I completely missed on. Very impressive in that regard.

The story of the day though was the emergence of the passing game. Matt Cassel had his best game of the season going 9 of 14 for 202 yards and 2 TD. Miles Austin had 3 receptions for 93 yards and 1 TD.

Schaub was 12 of 24 for 196 yards for 1 TD and 1 INT. The touchdown was an insane fade route to Andre Johnson that Terrence Newmann completely missed on.

The Texans had a chance to take the lead early in the 4th quarter with the score 21-17, but Schaub threw a costly pick to Brandon Flowers and the Chiefs converted that into a touchdown to seal the game.

GG Ramesu
 
[quote name='bvharris']It's looking grim. My internet is at least on now, but it's operating at about 56K speeds, so Madden is out of the question. I've been on the phone with Comcast all night, and predictably they've been of zero help. I've been e-mailing with Zurezo, and his parents are coming into town tomorrow so it looks like the earliest we could get it in would be late tomorrow night. And even that assumes my internet will cooperate. Since I at least have some connectivity I'm going to try to log into the franchise right now and promote you back to commish, just in case I can't get this thing fixed by tomorrow and I need to be booted. This sucks guys, obviously the timing is dreadful and I hate more than anything to be the one holding us up.[/QUOTE]

Very lame, hope it doesn't become a sub game.
 
[quote name='Doomtime']Very lame, hope it doesn't become a sub game.[/QUOTE]

Man, I hope so too. I worked damned hard to get to this point, I don't want to see it go down that way. My hope is that people will not get too angry at me since I'm usually one of the very first people to play my game every week. You guys know I'm itching to play, this is killing me.
 
Well the way I look at it is if we plan on doing the draft Tuesday, then this is no issue.

Game tomorrow and then we have the weekend.

No worries BV, gives me more time to work on some new tricks ;)
 
[quote name='ballhawk20']I'm not Gona be fully available all weekend![/QUOTE]

dont worry... i'll make sure i catch up to u. Panthers-Saints III is for more than just bragging rights so we aint lettin yall sneak by
 
I'm bringing back colored font for one post because I am in need of a responce.

What is the deal with offseason trades?

If I want to trade a draft pick right now (before the draft obviously) does it count against last seasons trade cap or next seasons?

I have a trade pending but I need to know this stuff, and with plenty of time before the draft.
 
Last year, offseason trades counted towards the cap for the following season. I'm inclined to continue that policy since I think it makes the most sense, but I'm open to being convinced otherwise.

In other news, my internet ordeal is ongoing, but I'm hoping I can work it out today somehow. Right now our plan is to play between 11PM-Midnight EST. I'm going to give it a go, but it wouldn't be a bad idea to have a sub on hand in case one is needed.
 
Do we only have the time between after the Super Bowl and before the draft to do "Offseason Trades"? or can we just post them now and save time?
 
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