Marvel Puzzle Quest Discussion Thread

Way to get DS on his rant again about Falcon and Punisher!!

hahah again, if I had more Falcon I would definitely use him but I dont!
Get more Falcon covers! Redwing is actually crazy effective and inspiration can make any special tiles crazy powerful! I think I powered up some attack and strike tiles so bad that I was getting thousands and thousands of attack damage with just matches. Killed a hulk in just 2 moves, true story, why would I lie?

 
Get more Falcon covers! Redwing is actually crazy effective and inspiration can make any special tiles crazy powerful! I think I powered up some attack and strike tiles so bad that I was getting thousands and thousands of attack damage with just matches. Killed a hulk in just 2 moves, true story, why would I lie?
Haha let me just ask my game nicely to give me more covers!

If anything it will continue to say fuck you and feed me more and more Daredevils!

 
I try hood, but that low health pool, it gets really hard for me to use him. I cant ever get dormamus aid to work right either. Like I see it taking colors but I was hoping for a better increase.
His health is the only down side. That's why I'm hoping Colossus can tank yellow for him. I suppose the alternative would be Deadpool, but I don't have anywhere near the covers needed.

The real key to Dormammu's Aid is to clear the board of at least one color (including Team Ups). Try him with red from The Helmet That Shall Not Be Named, see if he's more effective. If you take all the yellow off the board, for example, the rest of the colors get over that steal threshold.

Maybe I should try a Steve Rogers, GSBW, and Psylocke team...
I know she's more fragile than Thor, but GSBW is still one of my go-to characters, especially teamed with Hulk. That 5 green is a beast, and her purple can usually create at least two criticals per use. I'm tempted to level up 2* Hawkeye just for that.

Haha let me just ask my game nicely to give me more covers!
Pay attention! Don't ask the game, ask Loki.
 
Pay attention! Don't ask the game, ask Loki.
Lets not ask Loki, He's just not himself lately.....

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I got into a bad last-minute bracket and barely snuck into the top 100. One yellow Falcon for me. Crap. Hope you guys fared better.
I forgot and jumped in with a couple minutes and didnt have seed teams this time. I would have gotten top 100 if I finished my last match like 30 seconds sooner. Stupid Loki's moves take so long, bah.

At least you got a cover. My poor Falcon will stay at 1/3/1 for now. Womp.

Though also a heads up, in the interview they said Colossus will be released like Beast so that means he will be in the next PvP reward tiers most likely which means it will be a Steve Rogers PvP. Might want to start focusing your ISO on him for that coming up soon! Since I already have more than enough powered up characters for the PvE that is what I am doing. Just pushed my Steve to 150 so far.

 
I need to try and manage a top 25 in the Falcon to score a blue for Steve. I would even drop some HP to get to 4 in blue if I can get that, just to get him a higher level if your prediction is correct. I'm a bit leery, because they also said he would be introduced in "The Hunt".

 
Though also a heads up, in the interview they said Colossus will be released like Beast so that means he will be in the next PvP reward tiers most likely which means it will be a Steve Rogers PvP. Might want to start focusing your ISO on him for that coming up soon! Since I already have more than enough powered up characters for the PvE that is what I am doing. Just pushed my Steve to 150 so far.
Maybe. It's also the end of the season, so the next PvP could be anything - a variation of Balance of Power, or maybe they've come up with something new. The last PvP of the previous season was She Hulk rewards, and we didn't get a Jennifer PvP next or even as the first event of the new season.
 
Got my 10 pack, one 3 star, at least it was usable. Also, managed a yellow Falcon, so he's 5/5/2 now. Jumped in to the Heroic Juggs event this morning.
 
It fools me every time after my first battle. you have 33 points. You're in 23rd place! Exit, come back in. 33 points. 285th place.

It said I was 85th in the Colossus/Juggs event, so we'll see if that sticks.

 
I'm on vacation this week, so not much chance of winning Colossus this round. Really hoping he'll be the prize in the Steve PvP.
 
Yup. i've skipped too many of the tournaments to get the 10 pack, unfortunately. I think I might be close for the 3000 sentry cover, but I'm not going to push for it.

Still staying above 100 in the Colossus thing so I'm happy. 

 
Still have 5 people who haven't jumped in to the Juggs heroic, but we're around 150, hopefully these slackers can pull us up :)
I've fought my way up into the top100 now. Everybody please join in and push!
Just jumped in, guess I was expecting better. Im in the top 150, only did half the nodes 1 time around. Already have almost all progression rewards done, 2 more & they'll be completely done. Green Thor? Didnt I just get that & I dont need that color anymore anyways. Of all the colors they still think that 3* Thor red is so damn special. At least throw me another yellow, but whatever.

I got off track. I waited to hopefully get into a better bracket, boy was I wrong. After one node top guy had 38k. Nothing like what some of your top guys have but damn, at about 1500 per node I will still have to play catch up. Gotta love these 2 day grind a thons.

So am I gonna have any down time to get a chance to work on my: Deadpool, Captain Marvel, Beast, She -Hulk, or any of the other characters that I only have a couple covers in? (Hell I still have no Red for 3* Thor or a Blue for Daredevil!) No...OK then I cant wait for my ever so useful colosus with his 1 single cover.

Since we're all having fun grinding this weekend, music for your listening pleasure.

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjWAWcx4xdE[/media]

 
I once dipped my penis in melted cheese just out of curiosity
Bah, I haven't hopped in either yet. I have been tracking the points though and so I know I can catch up and still be super helpful to the Alliance especially since I have so many of the powered up heroes and just many others to use. I am going to go grocery shopping then go for a run and then hop in and hopefully I can get in a better bracket than you! : P

 
Tell me the story of why you once dipped your penis in melted cheese out of curiosity
Short version, it wasnt curiosity, more like I was the unwilling (or more than willing!) participant of an experiment.

When a girl tells you she wants to taste her queso dip off parts of your body, you dont really take it literally. I thought it was a metaphor!!!! We all had fun that night & thankfully no one was lactose intolerant. Naturally after that I was hungry and totally put the beef in her taco.

 
Short version, it wasnt curiosity, more like I was the unwilling (or more than willing!) participant of an experiment.

When a girl tells you she wants to taste her queso dip off parts of your body, you dont really take it literally. I thought it was a metaphor!!!! We all had fun that night & thankfully no one was lactose intolerant. Naturally after that I was hungry and totally put the beef in her taco.
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Damn boys. I have officially mastered this game's brackets and timing hahah

Timed it just right. Hopped in here at 5:40pm in Chicago with a handful of hours left in the game. Plowed through each of the nodes with ease since I have Thor, Hulk and OBW at max level and am sitting COMFORTABLY at #2 in my bracket : D

The #10 has roughly 5,500 points less than I do. I am hoping for a fairly easy fight to hold top 10. In terms of our Alliance though... what the hell is going on?! We rocked the Beast one and it showed us that we could easily score top 100 if we all tried. I already am up past like 6 of our members and will only get higher as the night goes one. We really need to score top 100!

Push!

*Edit*

Just got back from everything and played a bit more, I am still holding #2 in my bracket and am like 40k+ points now for playing the game a total of 60 minutes today. The fact that I am higher than many people is not good at all. We were at 115 last time I checked, I am hoping a few of your are just about to do a huge push... DS, Ltrain, Todd and Marauder... I am looking at you guys! : P

 
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Yeah I've got about 40,000 and barely holding my head above water at somewhere between 100 and 150.

Just playing the same three essential nodes over and over and over and over.

Gotta be more to life than this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F0BZZ4FpF8

 
We are really losing ground guys and have dropped now to like 94... that is terrible. We are getting this Alliance reward dammit.

NOW PUSHHHHHHH

: D

 
So... that worked like a charm for me.

Timed it just right and made sure my nodes grew to be nice and strong and knowing that my characters were all max boosted I blasted through this PvE. Ended up playing for a total of 2 hours and 20 minutes total tonight, scored 53k points and managed to get top 10 in the personal rewards mixed with the GREAT performance of the Alliance, I will have my Colossus already at 4 covers!

Phew!

(I did boot a random tonight, already forgot who and ended up booting repeatedly over the span of two hours until we got someone with 40k that helped us squeeze into the top 100)

 
Yeah, I had 43,000 points and ended up 120th or so. So I've got two covers coming at least. Which is nice (wish they were at least in a different colors, but I wont complain)

His black power looks incredible.

Good job to everyone who helped the alliance place so highly!

 
Great job Alliance. Woke up this morning to a nice surprised. I truly hate weekend events, I did try to push and get as much points as I can. Sorry that I didn't go pass 40k (I think I left off around 34k) Was going to wake up at midnight to try to steal a Mohawk using Broly's method...that didn't work out well. The bed was just too comfortable.

 
I really just want more Colossus covers now. With his moves fully released now I really want him.

http://marvelpuzzlequest.wikia.com/wiki/Colossus_(Classic)

I am trying to decide which build would be best. I personally think that 5/3/5 is the most ideal since his Yellow and Black are so unique they really warrant being maxed out. His red past 3 adds entire team damage but I feel like having longer reduced damage is better with Yellow. His black I feel depends on how you plan to use it. I feel some people may want their teammates airborne longer because they are using it as a further defensive maneuver but to me I would prefer having the move be faster and more efficient.

I know it is a ways away to maxing him out but what are you guys looking at as his ideal build for you?

 
They should have his toss do double or triple if he is launching wolverine at you.
Haha I know I was just talking to my buddy about that and how I feel like I have to use Patch with him then!

Who really would make for a good pairing because I feel like it would be a bitch to lose that match. Colossus protects Patch, if Patch gets hit oh well heals back. Plus then if you do have Colossus at 5/3/5 then both Patch's Green and Red are extremely useful.

 
I really just want more Colossus covers now. With his moves fully released now I really want him.

http://marvelpuzzlequest.wikia.com/wiki/Colossus_(Classic)

I am trying to decide which build would be best. I personally think that 5/3/5 is the most ideal since his Yellow and Black are so unique they really warrant being maxed out. His red past 3 adds entire team damage but I feel like having longer reduced damage is better with Yellow. His black I feel depends on how you plan to use it. I feel some people may want their teammates airborne longer because they are using it as a further defensive maneuver but to me I would prefer having the move be faster and more efficient.

I know it is a ways away to maxing him out but what are you guys looking at as his ideal build for you?
I'm with you at 5/3/5 for now. 5 in yellow is a given. 3 in red is okay, because he's probably going to be paired with someone that has a really strong red. I'll wait until the final verdict on his max before completely ruling it out though. If his team damage ends up being up around 3K, it might be worth it to have a team member spinning about in midair for a couple more turns to be dealing that kind of damage.

 
Haha I know I was just talking to my buddy about that and how I feel like I have to use Patch with him then!

Who really would make for a good pairing because I feel like it would be a bitch to lose that match. Colossus protects Patch, if Patch gets hit oh well heals back. Plus then if you do have Colossus at 5/3/5 then both Patch's Green and Red are extremely useful.
Any time I see a team that could use someone with strong blue and purple, it pains me to think of the love CMags and I used to share.

Then I realize that LDaken would make the team you mentioned a team that I would skip at all costs if they popped up in a node.

 
And triple post for the win... as expected, I got to play just long enough to stay in the 150 for my extra red Colossus last night. Didn't get to play Falcon PvP at all for Steves, which sucks cheese-dipped donger.

 
It shows on the link that his max damage at max level at 5 red is about 1k to the other team members. That again isnt bad but not incentive enough to me to put two more covers in that power.

AND YES! I didnt think of that but fuck yeah, Colossus, Patch and Daken would be a killer team with all the colors covered too. Damn. I would most definitely never fight them.

An interesting thing on the forum though is that people are saying Colossus' move doesnt matter on Defense in PvP because people can still switch to other characters, regardless of who is up front. I assumed that it wouldnt work that way for him though. Also they said that his damage reduction doesnt apply to Strike tiles which I hope is something that just needs to be patched because that is stupid, damage is damage.

And damn, at least you got 2 Colossus covers total. Hopefully you can score more in whatever upcoming PvP they have him as a reward in. I really hope it isnt a Lazy Storm PvP though because mine is terrible...

BUT THIS PVP IS CRAZY haha My Thor and Hulk and Black Panther team is going to rock this shit. My Hulk at his crazy buffed level has like 22k health! o_O

 
Ended up #63, good to have two covers, even in the same color. Cost another 500 HP to open another slot, ugh.
Yeah I was just discussing with Avi (Juggernaut) that I am actually glad I dont have a huge roster since opening up slots isnt as much yet! I think my slot for him cost 400 HP. At the rate we are awarded HP though so long as we are all saving it enough and not wasting it on Daily Deals, we should easily be able to buy a selected cover and open up a new slot almost like once a month or so!

 
This will more than likely be a Tigger rant....you have been warned.  To make it more entertaining read it in a horrible Jerry Seinfeld impersonation.

So this game, whats the deal...

OK for real this time.  I recently had to drop 500 hp to make room for beast.  I have a roster of about 40-41 and my next roster slot will cost 550.  I look at my roster and I have so many new 3*s that have 1-3 covers that being said they will be in 1-2 colors at most.  Very non competitive in any PvP & barely useful in the PVE except for the "essential" nodes. 

So now I have a diluted roster, which would be fine because I have so many veteran covers to make up for it right?  Well as they started releasing more and more 3*s I purged most of my "useless" 1-2 *s.  I kept the basics but longterm it didnt make up for the short term. When Thorverine got nerfed many of us sold off 2* Thor and or Wolverine.  Plus they made 3* versions which were better anyways.  This past event, I had to run with my old Thor/Wolverine/OBW team, which I havent done since the pre nerf days. Although the 3* Thor was there instead of the 2* it was pretty much my old team & it kicked ass.  Problem was I had sold off 2* wolvie & had rebuilt a new one, but never put any iso into him, due to trying to get my 3*s higher and higher.

Where am I going with this?  We all want the greatest.  We all want the 3*s, we ditch the 1-2 *s for them.  I had to dump bullseye (AGAIN!!!!) to make room.  Sure we never use Bullseye, but why are there so many 3*s and not enough 1-2?  Also no one ever talks about roster space in sales.  They talk about selling more healthpacks or tokens, but never roster space.  With the way they crap out characters Im surprised this isnt a topic.  You cant really afford to drop anyone because as most PVE are going, the roster gets locked or you have certain powered up characters.  Which this past event I find it crazy that a couple of our randoms scored higher than me in the past PvE.  1 only had 2 of the required characters, so I dont even see how they played the damn thing!

This goes into the next issue about roster space and new characters.  This game is so Pokemon that we gotta catch em all.  But unlike pokemon once you catch them all then what?  Ive never wanted to play a game that punishes me so much on every front.  What do I mean?  I said it above about the diluted roster.  Well I want to be effective in PVP PvE whatever, well I need the new character for essential nodes, however I will usually only have 1-3 covers for them, since they're new.  Ive beefed up all my 3*s for pvp, but they're locked out of PvE & the 1-2*s I have are low levels because Ive sold them off or rebuilt them.  Lets take into account that I have no roster space & Ive sold off all my decent characters to make room for the new 3*s.  So now I have a crap roster thats uncompetitive and basically useless, but hey I may be able to do essential nodes....wait no because I dont have the required characters.  Then to level them up, well no matter how well I do, there's always the ISO shortage.  I mean really, have you never noticed we play a freemium game that forces us to go uphill?  Not only that but we're pushing a snowball up that hill & it keeps getting bigger & bigger.  

Im all over the place with this rant, but in the end gameplay is fine.  I like match 3's, we all do.  its an easy formula to copy.  They just structured the characters wrong.  No other game has there being top tier characters outranking the lower tier.  Drop rates are horrible because of this.  In the end what do you choose? Having a team you can use? Trying to have all the characters so you can play effectively?  Ive tried both and Im learning you cant do both.  Plus thanks to funbalancing any teams I create get canned.  C. mags, Hulk and Panther miss you now.  OBW, Thor, Wolvie it was fun running with you guys again this past PvE.  Guess we'll wait to see what happens with Steve and Hood...they'll realize you guys work too well together.  Of course nothing will get done with Sentry/Daken.....God I hate that team.

In closing my last thought: You have beast, now Colossus.  So what, where does that end?  Look back at your roster.  How's your Dr. Doom?  Hood?  C.Mags or even Loki?  They're almost all OG 3*s surely you have them all at respectable levels right? Not really?  But you use them often right? not really? So why do we keep them? Ragnarock used to kick ass, but we dont care anymore, nerfing/funbalancing, he's gone too.  I only used the bad guys as an example but the good guys too: Spider man, nuff said with that.

I like the game, I still play it daily and for hours, but really it needs to change.  v 2.0 needs to come out, or part 2.  You cant build a character structured game like an upside down pyramid, it just doesnt work in the long run.  

 
I forgot to mention however that the cheese caused 2nd degree burns on my penis and now it looks like some sort of destroyed piece of cauliflower.
Eh. I completely understand where you are coming from but you are the one who pushes for having so many backups with 2*s and stuff. I havent really had that hard of a time not having 2*s. Sometimes I feel a bit off but I still manage to score the top spots in most events.

I do however see your complaint about how we keep old characters. I was just thinking that. Loki? Why the hell do I keep you, or Rags or so many others. I will likely never use them but knowing they are rare I feel the need to keep them 'just in case' and I feel like that is what many of us do.

In terms of a diluted roster I can see that. You and I have fairly similar rosters (minus all your 2* shits) but it isnt all that bad. We all still have our main teams that still perform well enough and I feel they balance the required characters enough in limited roster events that they arent ever really unplayable by any means.

I feel most F2P games have an uphill battle model. They want us going uphill so that we are more likely to cave and spend money! Though as I have proven that isnt as helpful anymore with the shit drop rates and 10 packs. I spent money early on and it was WELL WORTH IT but now I do not feel it is even worth half as much as it was before.

Games like these are always love/hate relationships but clearly in the end we all love it just a bit more than we hate it : p

 
I'm surprised I'm still on the Alliance :bow:

Been playing PvP and Simulator trying to pickup my 10 pack so joined early only to be outside of the top 100 for all of the events but hey I got my 10 pack which netted me 1 Yellow Falcon and the rest 2*.  Can't compare to last season pull of 8 3* but could had gotten more useful covers by playing PvE instead.  Opened up my 5 recruit tokens expecting more firewood for my GSBW and netted me 2 gold.  First was a Green GSBW which I need and then...drum roll...NICK FURY!!!  After that the universe has corrected itself and now gearing up for next season.

 
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Yeah, you have to carefully measure someone's contribution to make sure you don't kick them based on their efforts more than a few hours before the event's end. :whistle2:


They need to hurry up and update the tokens. I'm sitting on the equivalent of 17 heroics.

I've kind of run out of things I want to spend HP on, so buying roster slots don't bother me. I have over 6k in HP and majorly ISO poor. My plan is to never buy a cover unless it's a significant improvement without levels, or I've hit the soft cap. This policy has pretty much given me the covers I'm looking for through tokens or awards before I get to the point of buying the cover.

Except for the fact my Sentry sucks, I'm starting to feel like my roster is pretty strong now. Sentry is the metagame, so I stalk the MMR tanking ranks and get my top 10s when I can.
 
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Wow Steve's yellow combine with Falcon's inspiration...all i see are "-1" dmgs.
Hah yeah his Yellow in general usually blocks most everything. Hell, even his Blue at max level creates crazy defense tiles too.

Easily one of my favorite characters and so glad they made a 3* version because 2* Cap was my go to early on in the game.

 
In closing my last thought: You have beast, now Colossus. So what, where does that end? Look back at your roster. How's your Dr. Doom? Hood? C.Mags or even Loki? They're almost all OG 3*s surely you have them all at respectable levels right? Not really? But you use them often right? not really? So why do we keep them? Ragnarock used to kick ass, but we dont care anymore, nerfing/funbalancing, he's gone too. I only used the bad guys as an example but the good guys too: Spider man, nuff said with that.
I've been thinking about this a bit, and trying to find the difference between my experience and yours. Take this with a grain of salt, however, because a) I have a Nick Fury and b) up until the last Simulator, I rarely, if ever, used Classic Mags because I was missing a whole power. So the recent character changes didn't affect me much at all - Mags wasn't part of my normal strategy, I don't have a 2* Daken, 3* Daken is in the mid-levels for me and only used when boosted, Hawkeye was an improvement for a character I only mildly leveled for PvE, and X-Force got better for the top tier players (which I work to avoid) and anyone with ISO to burn. The last patch that bothered my play was Team Ups, and the patch after that fixed it for me (not having random Supernovas really made me happy).

I am currently maxed on five 3*s - Hulk, GSBW, Hood, Punisher, and Doom. I have a few more that have been leveled above 100 - Steve, Thor, Spidey, Patch, IM40 and Daken. I have a roster spot for every 3* or better, some of which are horribly covered. I consider my roster pretty diverse. The only characters without a spot on my roster are the 2* Dark Avengers (which will be painful if they ever do a Heroic with just those characters), and every 1* except Iron Man (been thinking about covering a Juggernaut just for Balance of Power, but haven't done it). I haven't sold a roster character in months. Every so often I consider opening a spot for those low star characters, but those covers are so common, I don't feel like I need to 'collect' them.

I think there's two elements to why I don't get frustrated (beyond the normal frustration of a bad bracket with superhuman players taking the top scores or a "this isn't luck, this is cheating" AI cascade).

The first is that I treat the Pokemon element of catching them all the 'reward' system. Levels aren't important to me beyond what they can do to earn more covers. If I get to the point where I have every character fully covered, perhaps that reward endorphin will switch over to leveling them all. But I don't get the same rush pushing the level button for Nick Fury to go from level 73 to 74 as I do getting a new cover for him - not even close. Because of this, I don't mind new characters. I'm never going to develop Beast into my top tier characters, but I sure as shootin' want to build him up to 13 covers.

To that end, roster slots are the only currency that matters to me right now. Maybe it helps that I'm sitting on a small mountain of HP to get me in that mindset, but that's the way I'm playing the roster game. As long as the game gives me that IV drip of a new cover every so often (especially if I feel like I 'earned' it), I find the collection aspect enjoyable.

The second element is the roster I've built. I have enough characters now that are leveled enough that I can field a few decent teams for any featured character PvP event. Hulk and GSBW, Steve and Hood, Punisher and Doom, etc. I'm just now getting Thor into fighting shape, so he'll get into the mix more frequently. I think the key is to build a roster that has a couple of good two-person teams that don't care about the third member. Between featured character PvP and required node PvE, that's probably about 80% of the matches where there are roster requirements. The random PvPs like the Avengers one right now or the PvE non-required nodes let you play with the rest of your roster. So having more than one core duo that can clean up the board regardless of the third character is key. And by having at least one cover of every character, those required PvE nodes won't be locked out, and you have a team that can deal with bringing along a low level anchor.

So what about those required characters? If the placement rewards for the event are desirable, it will probably pay to throw a few levels at them to get them somewhat resistant to AoE attacks and wars of attrition. If the soft cap is below 90, might as well max them out if I can. If the rewards are not interesting (already maxed the character being given away, or I know I won't have the time to put in an effort for progression awards), farm for ISO and ignore their levels. This way you can spread out some levels to the mid tier as needed and still develop the characters you want for your primary team when there is no incentive to level someone else.

Then comes a PvE heroic that limits the available characters into the single digits. Depending on who they pick, you could be in heaven or hell - it's awesome when they pick one of your primary teams, and it sucks when you haven't put any effort into the characters - especially since they need to make it new player accessible by including at least two 1* characters. This is where the previously mentioned 'level sprinkling' comes into play - I don't pay much attention to Modern Hawkeye, but I've thrown levels at him here and there. So when he gets picked for a Heroic, he gets boosted into playable range with about 3k health and the ability to deal a few thousand in damage. Once the event is over, he goes back to bench warming. Because of my strategy, there really hasn't been an event in recent memory that I couldn't participate in, just ones that were easier/harder.

And not since the Thorverine nerf have I sold a leveled character, and never a 3*. I think it only makes sense if you're funding the start of a 2* to 3* transition, but even then, the ROI is horrible.

The game punishes you for not having every character. The other players punish you for not having the best characters. There is a difference. Once I eliminated the game frustrations I could control, I started enjoying the game again. Kind of like the matches itself - if you focus on the troublemaker that trips you up and slows you down (OBW, Hood), you can then play the parts that are fun, like a Thunder Strike to Wolverine's face.

This was much longer than I intended, and not meant to say anyone else's play style is wrong. :)
 
I completely agree with how you gave to manage and take out the trouble makers first. OBW, Hood, CStorm to name a few. So glad that these guys are squishy and you must time your attacks.
 
I mostly agree.

Just noticed I was in the same boat with this Avengers tournament.

The only 3-stars i have closed to max levels are Psylocke, Punisher and Hulk (all in the 120s-140s). Which aren't much help in this tournament.  All the Avengers are boosted for this tournament, but aside from Thor and Hulk, I don't use any of them. 

i've got plenty of covers for spidey, but have never bothered to put the ISO into him. Human Torch, and maybe Steve Rogers are in the same boat.

where am I going with this? Coffee hasn't kicked in yet, sorry.

I understand the collection aspect. I'm still holding on to a couple one star's for just that reason. And my three star guys with just one or two cover powers i keep around in the naive hope that someday they might be great.

 
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