Mass Effect 2 Discussion - Fight for the Lost

[quote name='Ryuukishi']Pretty sure that it's mentioned in the Cronos Station mission that the Rogue VI from ME1 was augmented with Reaper technology/programming to create EDI.[/QUOTE]

Aye, 'tis be true. Besides, the whole conversation is pointless because the rule is this: If it's Reaper or directly altered by Reaper tech (not based on what we learned from Reaper tech), it gets destroyed. Simple. Clean. Effective. So, the Collector base goes kaboom in ME2 and we destroy in ME3. That's how 'dis shit works, boys and girls.

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Also, you guys were right. The battle against Hock in Kasumi's loyalty mission wasn't that bad. I did that tonight and now all I have is Tali's recruitment, then the Reaper IFF, then the trip through the Omega 4 Relay. I need to find one more heavy weapon upgrade so I can unlock the Cain, which I'd like to have for those last two missions.
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']Pretty sure that it's mentioned in the Cronos Station mission that the Rogue VI from ME1 was augmented with Reaper technology/programming to create EDI.[/QUOTE]


From the Mass Effect Wiki on EDI:
"EDI also gains access to "Anti-Reaper Algorithms" and states that she devotes significant processing power to analyzing them. When pressed on this subject by Shepard as to how she could hope to combat beings millions of years more advanced, she reveals that she was in part designed by technology gained from Sovereignhttp://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Sovereign's remains and thus, at least partially, BASED ON Reaper technology herself."

Looks like we're both right. EDI was created based on Reaper tech.
 
I finished Tali's recruitment last night. I've decided to not do Mordins, Grunt and Jacobs loyalty missions so its off to the Derelict Reaper! It's pretty much the beginning of the endgame for me. I was happy to have unlocked the Cain last night too. That should be helpful.
 
[quote name='chubbyninja1319']I finished Tali's recruitment last night. I've decided to not do Mordins, Grunt and Jacobs loyalty missions so its off to the Derelict Reaper! It's pretty much the beginning of the endgame for me. I was happy to have unlocked the Cain last night too. That should be helpful.[/QUOTE]

any particular reason for skipping Mordin's? I can definitely understand Grunt's (not bothering with the Thresher Maw) and Jacob's (since hes such a boring character its not worth the effort) but Mordin's isnt that difficult and has actual relevance in ME3.
 
Oh man...I attempted the Collector ship (those platforms) on insanity and got my alliance behind handed to me about 4 times in a row in short order. My engineer needs a new strategy.
 
[quote name='simosaurus']Oh man...I attempted the Collector ship (those platforms) on insanity and got my alliance behind handed to me about 4 times in a row in short order. My engineer needs a new strategy.[/QUOTE]
No special strategy that I remember except being inhumanly fast and accurate. :lol: Probably took me at least 10 tries. It's just incredibly hard.
 
[quote name='GamerDude316']any particular reason for skipping Mordin's? I can definitely understand Grunt's (not bothering with the Thresher Maw) and Jacob's (since hes such a boring character its not worth the effort) but Mordin's isnt that difficult and has actual relevance in ME3.[/QUOTE]

That one gave me a lot of trouble back when the game first came out. In that room with the talkative krogan where you can renegade interrupt and then a squad of krogan rush you, that gave me such a hard time. I have no desire to bother with that on insanity. #oldwounds

Besides, this isn't a save that I'd take into ME3 anyway.
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']No special strategy that I remember except being inhumanly fast and accurate. :lol: Probably took me at least 10 tries. It's just incredibly hard.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that was, without question, the hardest part of the game so far. Stay in cover and snuff Harbinger before he gets too close. I didnt worry about the scions until the drones were gone. Some people try to take out the scions first.
 
[quote name='chubbyninja1319']That one gave me a lot of trouble back when the game first came out. In that room with the talkative krogan where you can renegade interrupt and then a squad of krogan rush you, that gave me such a hard time. I have no desire to bother with that on insanity. #oldwounds

Besides, this isn't a save that I'd take into ME3 anyway.[/QUOTE]

Ah fair enough, I can understand that then. I remember that part not giving my Soldier much trouble on Insanity, but oh well.


[quote name='chubbyninja1319']Yeah, that was, without question, the hardest part of the game so far. Stay in cover and snuff Harbinger before he gets too close. I didnt worry about the scions until the drones were gone. Some people try to take out the scions first.[/QUOTE]

I usually take out the first scion and then worry about the drones/Harbinger. Definitely takes some patience to get through.
 
[quote name='GamerDude316']
I usually take out the first scion and then worry about the drones/Harbinger. Definitely takes some patience to get through.[/QUOTE]

I got through it. I took out the Collectors and when Harbinger got close, I wasn't shy about using the grenade launcher. I saved the Scions for last and then lobbed incinerate at them from a distance. Rest of that mission wasn't too bad after that. From there I quickly knocked out Thane and Samara's loyalty missions and now I'm off to get Tali.
 
[quote name='simosaurus']I got through it. I took out the Collectors and when Harbinger got close, I wasn't shy about using the grenade launcher. I saved the Scions for last and then lobbed incinerate at them from a distance. Rest of that mission wasn't too bad after that. From there I quickly knocked out Thane and Samara's loyalty missions and now I'm off to get Tali.[/QUOTE]


Nicely done!

I started my loyalty missions tonight, did Zaeed and Garrus. Zaeed is still unloyal so it will be interesting to see if he survives the suicide mission. Garrus is my bro for life after I let him kill Sidonis. Probably gonna slog through Thane's, Samara's, Jacob's, and Miranda's tomorrow.
 
[quote name='chubbyninja1319']That one gave me a lot of trouble back when the game first came out. In that room with the talkative krogan where you can renegade interrupt and then a squad of krogan rush you, that gave me such a hard time. I have no desire to bother with that on insanity. #oldwounds

Besides, this isn't a save that I'd take into ME3 anyway.[/QUOTE]

I actually finished Mordin's loyalty mission not too long ago. And as far as I can tell, it has been BY FAR the easiest mission I've played on this Insanity PT. Every time a couple of burly krogan came into view, I had Mordin do Incinerate (area), AR/Warp Ammo (heavy)/Revenant and take away their armor, Grunt does a Concussive Blast (area), and then finish them off. At the end of the mission, I hit pause and checked the options to make sure I was still on Insanity :lol:


As for my own Insanity run, finished all recruitment/loyalty missions. Off to do side missions and then DLC (Overlord, LotSB, Derelict Reaper, Legion's loyalty, Collector Base, and then Arrival in that order). I intend to do a complete clear. In terms of ranking the loyalty missions' difficulty (on Insanity), for me it'd be (easiest to hardest): Samara -> Thane -> Mordin -> Jack -> Tali -> Grunt -> Zaeed -> Jacob -> Garrus -> Miranda/Kasumi. You have to do Legion's last, so no need to rank it. That and it's fairly easy.


On a side note, bring Wrex and Kaiden when you go to fight Fist in ME1. Kaiden's reaction is priceless.
 
[quote name='dualedge2']On a side note, bring Wrex and Kaiden when you go to fight Fist in ME1. Kaiden's reaction is priceless.[/QUOTE]

When I play ME1, the only time Kaiden is allowed off the ship is when I need someone to die for me on Virmire.


I did a ME2 Insanity run as a soldier many moons ago over the course of a month; only things that I recall giving me much trouble were YMIR mechs (especially that side quest with the three of them that're blowing up crates :cold:), and those damn Collector platforms before I realized Harbinger's attack patterns. Great gaming experience though, completing everything on Insanity.
 
[quote name='Pirate331']When I play ME1, the only time Kaiden is allowed off the ship is when I need someone to die for me on Virmire.


I did a ME2 Insanity run as a soldier many moons ago over the course of a month; only things that I recall giving me much trouble were YMIR mechs (especially that side quest with the three of them that're blowing up crates :cold:), and those damn Collector platforms before I realized Harbinger's attack patterns. Great gaming experience though, completing everything on Insanity.[/QUOTE]

That sounds like my ME2 Insanity Soldier run. I think that side quest with the three mechs gave me more trouble than 3/4 of the loyalty missions.
 
[quote name='GamerDude316']Garrus is my bro for life after I let him kill Sidonis.[/QUOTE]

This. We always put a slug in Harkins leg for mouthing off then we take out Sidonis.

Based on what Dude and Edge are saying, maybe I will do Mordins loyalty mission. Just because he's such a great character and I'm having so much fun this pt.
 
If you need the credits, remember to "STAY" at the end. The monitor where Mordin slaps around Maelon has a hack for 3000 credits.


And Chubbs, it really depends on how well you can handle krogan. If they're tissue paper to you, then by all means, go for it. If not, then...pray, I guess.


Also, I used to stop Garrus from shooting Harkin in the leg. But for my last 5 PTs, I've let him shoot Harkin because it felt pretty good. That and he's a bastard.

As for Sidonis, I stop Garrus.
I know, I know. Like Harkin, he's a bastard and deserves to die. I won't argue that. But I see Garrus as being above petty revenge. Also, I'd like to think that there's some good left in the galaxy.
 
Hehe I am all paragon in my ME1 Liara/Tali playthrough but that Balack a hole
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got what was coming (plus it was related to my Shepard's backstory). ;)
 
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huh, did Jack's loyalty mission and after all this time thinking I wouldnt have enough Paragon/Renegade to resolve her and Miranda's dispute (and RPing various reasons why I'd side with Miranda over Jack), turned out I had enough Renegade to settle it afterall and it fit perfectly with the "mission first" mantra. How about that.
 
Done with everything (except for Arrival). Recruitment, loyalty, and DLC. Off to the endgame.


After I beat ME2, it's off to finish my ME3 Insanity run (aka, Fun with Self-Made Fire Explosions). Of course, after finishing ME2's Insanity, ME3's Insanity will probably feel like a cake walk.
 
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Things are rolling fast on my insanity run now. I knocked out the Reaper IFF mission, Tali's loyalty mission, and Legion's mission last night. I had never taken Legion with me on Tali's mission before and watching the Quarians freak out over him got a chuckle out of me. And having him with me meant that along with my engineer and Tali, we tore through those geth like they were nothing.

[quote name='dualedge2']
After I beat ME2, it's off to finish my ME3 Insanity run (aka, Fun with Self-Made Fire Explosions). Of course, after finishing ME2's Insanity, ME3's Insanity will probably feel like a cake walk.[/QUOTE]


ME3 on Insanity was much easier than I expected and was a lot of fun. You'll think it feels really simple after ME2.
 
[quote name='dualedge2']All done. Off to ME3 :D[/QUOTE]

I'm hoping to finish up this weekend. I had to do Mordin's loyalty mission twice last night (first time I forgot to feed the fish and came back to them being dead). Just have Samara's, Jacob's, and Tali's loyalty missions left, then a few sidequests and its off to get the IFF and do Legion's mission. SHould have plenty of time since I'm snowed in this weekend!
 
Hence why I never buy fish until after the Collector Ship. By then, I've wooed Kelly enough to get her to feed my fish. Then I buy fish.

During the Human-Reaper fight, I fired the Cain at the eye and it didn't home in; it just dumb-fired. Had to finish it off the old-fashioned way, instead of the spectacular explosion. Really irritating.
 
I dont think Ive ever had it happen before where the fish died after just one mission...whatever, Mordin's loyalty mission doesnt take more than 30 minutes anyway.
 
Probably the only thing in ME3 I didnt buy ;)

Anyway, gonna finish up the main story today. Doing Tali's loyalty mission, the IFF, Legion's loyalty mission and then off to the endgame. Saving Overlord, LOTSB, and Arrival for after the main story but I'll probably break from ME2 for a while before starting up this ME3 playthrough.
 
Officially wrapped up the main story today for my Sentinel. Going to come back to Overlord, LOTSB, and Arrival at a later date. Man, 8th time through the game, and the ending level still gives me chills its so great. Love it.

Highlights of the playthrough for my RP'd Shepard who didnt follow Paragon/Renegade but just made decisions I would make:

-No one on the team died, despite Zaeed being unloyal. Went with Tali for the vents, Garrus and Miranda leading the fire teams, Samara as the Biotic specialist and Mordin leading the crew back to the Normandy. Took Garrus and Tali with me to the Human Reaper (yeah ME1 squaddies!) while rotating Miranda/Garrus/Thane for the first part of the level.

-Romanced Tali (looking forward to it in ME3, ME2 felt rushed since I just did her loyalty mission this morning)

-Destroyed the Base (no way I was giving it to TIM after his Collector trap before)

-Destroyed the heretic Geth (no way I wasnt gonna take advantage of a chance to kill thousands of Geth)

-Killed Maelon (his experiments were too barbaric) but saved the data to use as a bargaining chip with the Krogan in the future

-Encouraged the Quarians to retake Rannoch
 
Yea, I know what you mean. Rushing from switch to switch to save the techie, the music swelling, and the action being just awesome. The whole 3 stage final level (four, if you count the Terminator) was just perfect. Definitely in my Top 5 ME Moments (gameplay wise).
 
[quote name='dualedge2']Yea, I know what you mean. Rushing from switch to switch to save the techie, the music swelling, and the action being just awesome. The whole 3 stage final level (four, if you count the Terminator) was just perfect. Definitely in my Top 5 ME Moments (gameplay wise).[/QUOTE]

Same for me. I dont know if I could put ahead of the ME1 end sequence (which for me alwys starts at Virmire) but they're very close together. To go from that to the whole ME3 priority earth bit is just....not right.
 
Lol so I actually gave a damn this time and went through all of Pinnacle Station on ME1. Got 1st in every scenario (Spectre weapons helped), at first it was a bit tricky but once I understood what/where I was doing/going it wasn't too much trouble. Finished the end survival scenario as well and got some sweet loot from Ahurn's apartment. This playthrough I also didn't save Wrex (first time) and oh man mfw that happened.
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I also let Kaiden bite the dust, usually save Ashely opposed to popular hatred of her.
 
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ME2 Insanity = Done. Still have to do LotSB on hardcore to get 100%, but that won't be bad now. Except for the first part with the vents, the Collector base didn't seem much worse than normal.
 
I usually never have trouble with the Collector Base, especially when I did my Insanity playthrough. Actually ended up enjoying the Sentinel class a lot this last playthrough, Assault Armor, Throw Field, Heavy Warp, and Cryo Blast made for good times with a bonus power of Stasis.
 
[quote name='simosaurus']ME2 Insanity = Done. Still have to do LotSB on hardcore to get 100%, but that won't be bad now. Except for the first part with the vents, the Collector base didn't seem much worse than normal.[/QUOTE]

Congrats Simosaurus! I'd say you probably will not have a problem since you're a veteran. :applause:
 
[quote name='simosaurus']ME2 Insanity = Done. Still have to do LotSB on hardcore to get 100%, but that won't be bad now. Except for the first part with the vents, the Collector base didn't seem much worse than normal.[/QUOTE]

Congrats. To me, the only really difficult part of Insanity is the beginning because you're so incredibly underpowered. However, this is a good test to see how much skill you have. Staying alive isn't easy and you have to be careful. Past the beginning, things get much easier simply because the gap in power is narrowing with upgrades. As you gain more and more power/weapon upgrades, things just get easier from there and aside from some unbalanced enemies/fights, Insanity goes from being really tough to challenging. And to be honest, it makes the whole thing feel that much more satisfying.


ME3 progress: Almost done. All side missions completed and currently working on Leviathan. I don't have Omega because it's a ripoff. I'll get it when it hits 560-800 and not one MSP more. After Leviathan, it's time to assault Chronos Station and the endgame.
 
Big congrats to my boy Simosaurus!! Wiley bugger beat me to it even though I was a bit ahead of him. heh heh.

I'm well on my way. I got through Mordin's loyalty and the Reaper IFF mission tonight. I guess I'll do Tali's loyalty mission while I wait for the Omega 4 relay to open up for me.
 
[quote name='dualedge2']Congrats. To me, the only really difficult part of Insanity is the beginning because you're so incredibly underpowered.[/QUOTE]

Nah, I'd say that's going against the Matriarch and her goons in a closed space with little to no cover and too many biotic attacks to keep you moving on Noveria. :cold:
 
Fight your way to the right immediately. You're pretty protected from biotics back there, and can clean up pockets of enemies relatively easily.
 
[quote name='Spybreak8']Nah, I'd say that's going against the Matriarch and her goons in a closed space with little to no cover and too many biotic attacks to keep you moving on Noveria. :cold:[/QUOTE]

Meant for ME2 ;)

I don't know. All of ME1 was stupidly easy on Insanity. Death really only came for you while in the Mako. And even then, most of the time, you could get out and just shoot the obstacle out of the way. I never died in ME1 unless I was using the Mako. When it wasn't vehicular combat, Shepard just fell down a lot but he always got back up.
 
Well, I finally beat ME2 on Insanity! :whee: This is the one achievement that I've wanted more than any other, so I'm very happy to have this completed. 100% on ME3 and ME2, now I'm setting my sights on ME1. I have at least 1.5 PT's to go before attempting Insanity in ME1, though.

As for ME2, it did get easier the farther you got. I had a little bit of trouble with the vent sequence, but it wasn't too bad once I realized all I had to do was cloak and run for the 8th vent trigger. The last battle was kind of hard for me, but once I got into the pattern, it went okay. I ended up taking out the boss with one shot of the cain and the rest with the widow. I was trying to get more power cells from Harbinger, but noticed I was within a few widow shots, so I just went for it.

That was a very satisfying 75G. ;)
 
^congrats! Beating ME2 on Insanity was a great feeling for me too. Best 75G I ever got!

I still have ME1 and 3 on Insanity to do, not sure when I'll get around to that.
 
Congrats Chubbs! Yeah I was really pleased with myself for getting Insanity done in ME2 and quite liked how it changed up the fast flowing combat to a more tactical step by step approach.

Boom!
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I had Valentine's Day with Liara as I'm now on the Ilos mission.
That finishes it up for ME1 ally achievements! I just need some power achievements and I'll 100% this shit.

Uniquely this playthrough has actually been a different overall experience (prob my 5th or 6th playthrough, I don't know I've lost track). Went in as Sole Survival, Spacer Soldier with full Paragon, Renegade on Balak, a lot of Paragon choices were grayed out and my character had to suffice with Paragon result choices on the right. This led to a lot of decisions and results out of my character's control.

Since the high level 40s and my N7 weapons, I've been dominating everything that moves, although I'm on normal dif lol. It helped that I went through Pinnacle Station and grabbed Ahern's apartment that's directly linked to access to high end equipment. I like high difficulty runs but I'm also one to kick back and just run through the game on normal at times too.
 
Finishing ME1 I never noticed the giant piece from the ship puncturing the citadel tower and nobody getting sucked out into space or needing helmets at the end lol. God what an ending though, that song makes it.
 
Yeah, that ending to ME1 is really great. Very climactic and epic in scale. I'm probably going to go back to ME1 now. ME4 pt2 is seriously one of my favorite songs of all time.
 
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