Mass Effect 3 Discussion Thread

Joker's story is incredible. It looks like they threw a script in front of him and said "Go nuts." There's also a
Kasumi
appearance that's easy to miss in the casino as well.

[quote name='Ryuukishi']Just finished Mass Effect 1 on the old P.S. Triple.[/QUOTE]

How does it run on dat triple?
 
[quote name='Arikado']How does it run on dat triple?[/QUOTE]

Sup beeches. I'm talkin' about Mass Effect on dat P. S. Triple. I ain't talkin' about dat Xbox. Dat PC? Shiiiiit. You know what I'm tryna say? I'm tryna say, it runs exactly the same, pretty much. Frame rate is possibly a bit smoother overall, but saving and loading feel slower, and there are no UI or other improvements whatsoever. Bring Down the Sky is included, but Pinnacle Station isn't available at all.
 
[quote name='Freemason']I think we need to set up some theme runs too. All Volus, Melee Night, All Juggernauts, No Bullet Friday, you get the idea![/QUOTE]

I'm totally down with that. A couple weeks ago, some of us did an all-geth hit squad and it was awesome (soldier, engineer, infiltrator, juggernaut). We could do all Drells and be Team Squishy! Lot of fun to play, and we'll all rack up revive medals.
 
[quote name='Arikado']Joker's story is incredible. It looks like they threw a script in front of him and said "Go nuts." [/QUOTE]
Yeah I saw a lot of Robot Chicken influence there, loved it. :applause:

I'm finishing up some powers achievements for Mass Effect 1 and wow I'm really surprised how no other developer really gives you bonuses in game for your achievements other than what Bioware did with ME1. Hopefully this next gen we'll see more of that.
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']Sup beeches. I'm talkin' about Mass Effect on dat P. S. Triple. I ain't talkin' about dat Xbox. Dat PC? Shiiiiit. You know what I'm tryna say? I'm tryna say, it runs exactly the same, pretty much. Frame rate is possibly a bit smoother overall, but saving and loading feel slower, and there are no UI or other improvements whatsoever. Bring Down the Sky is included, but Pinnacle Station isn't available at all.[/QUOTE]

Well, we wouldn't want you to have anything less than a COMPLETELY authentic experience now, would we? :lol:

Bugs and all.
 
[quote name='chubbyninja1319']Yeah, I'm itching to go back to ME1 now.[/QUOTE]

yep, i hated engineers, so played through with a Soldier and a Vanguard completely, then did an Adept through #2 and 3, now i plan to go back for a complete run using an engy since i love them now. Then maybe a Sentinel, then.... fuck. I seriously could watch the opening scene from ME1 and 2 over and over, i love the narrative explaining your origin, followed by Andersons, "I'll make the call."
 
[quote name='simosaurus']I'm totally down with that. A couple weeks ago, some of us did an all-geth hit squad and it was awesome (soldier, engineer, infiltrator, juggernaut). We could do all Drells and be Team Squishy! Lot of fun to play, and we'll all rack up revive medals.[/QUOTE]

Drell Assassins and we all go Grenade Cap V and spam spilt homing nades. Team Squishy Artillery.
 
[quote name='chubbyninja1319']Yeah, I'm itching to go back to ME1 now.[/QUOTE]
Rollin' right into ME2. It's a female Shep so I think I might try the Garrus romance this time.
 
Man, threw my final party tonight. So much great stuff that has already been mentioned here, but I especially loved
finding Grunt curled up in the shower. "Damn your lettuce!" I just wish he'd let that dancing vorcha come in earlier; he looked like he knew how to have a good time.

So sad it's all over now. But I'll definitely have to go back and replay this dlc with my other Sheps to see what new tidbits and dialogue I might have missed.
 
[quote name='Spybreak8']Lol this is horrible. This is what happens when you "get everything out of it" in a game. My backlog, oh my poor backlog lol.[/QUOTE]

Tell me about it...I have Dishonored, AC3 and Tomb Raider giving me dirty looks from the shelf.
 
Yeah...right now for a backlog I have:

-Borderlands 2
-Assassin's Creed 2
-Bioshock 1 and 2
-Hitman HD trilogy
-Witcher 2
-Red Dead Redemption DLC (finally finished up the main story this weekend)
-Borderlands 1 DLC
-Portal 2 (3 chapters or so of it left)

And I wanna start New Vegas up again...
 
Just finished Citadel. I didn't like the combat aspect of it too much, however everything is simply amazing. It was as nice of a DLC as I have ever played in a game. I wasn't this happy since the ending of final fantasy 4 when it was final fantasy 2 on the SNES
 
For those of you that didn't romance Tali, here's her scene (really fantastic job by Ash Sroka):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3po11KDU9x0
 
I thought the scene was awkward as hell at first, but it has grown on me a bit. After all, she's supposed to be awkward and nerdy. When I saw it in my game, I stared at my screen with my jaw dropped.
Certainly didn't expect a musical number from her. :lol: I think the background music is a little too loud and the voice effect from her helmet distorts the quality of her singing voice somewhat, too. No in-game face model, either. :???: Rannoch was the ideal time to show it, but this would have been a good opportunity to correct that mistake.

Either way, she's got some great moments in the DLC.
She's a pretty crazy drunk and does a good impression of the Normandy SR-1 and SR-2. :lol: Oh, and when she practically breaks the fourth wall explaining things that people have theorized about is hilarious, too.
 
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[quote name='simosaurus']Tell me about it...I have Dishonored, AC3 and Tomb Raider giving me dirty looks from the shelf.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, Dishonored is still in the shrink wrap, didn't even pick up AC3 as Brotherhood is still in its shrink wrap - nor have I picked up Revelations - still running through FarCry 3 and yeah the reason I didn't pick up Tomb Raider is because SCII is coming out tonight, don't need more games in shrink wrap - along with my copies of Vanquish, Lego Batman, Fallout NV, & Dead Island!!!

Yeah I might be MIA or you might find me on ME3 multiplayer the coming days since I'm taking a few vacation days. :cool:

Thanks for tagging the Tali romance, I think I had her on one profile but then after Shadow Broker lol went with Liara.
 
[quote name='Spybreak8']Yeah, Dishonored is still in the shrink wrap, didn't even pick up AC3 as Brotherhood is still in its shrink wrap - nor have I picked up Revelations - still running through FarCry 3 and yeah the reason I didn't pick up Tomb Raider is because SCII is coming out tonight, don't need more games in shrink wrap - along with my copies of Vanquish, Lego Batman, Fallout NV, & Dead Island!!!

Yeah I might be MIA or you might find me on ME3 multiplayer the coming days since I'm taking a few vacation days. :cool:

Thanks for tagging the Tali romance, I think I had her on one profile but then after Shadow Broker lol went with Liara.[/QUOTE]

AC 3's ending is trash, WAY worse than this game but for whatever reason, AC 3 gets a pass.
 
[quote name='MSUHitman']AC 3's ending is trash, WAY worse than this game but for whatever reason, AC 3 gets a pass.[/QUOTE]


Extreme truth. I thought AC3 as a whole was pretty shitty though. Liked the multiplayer more than the campaign, which I never would have expected to say if you asked me 3 years ago.

Spy. Play Dishonored. Just, just go do it.
 
I'd never played an Assassin's Creed game before III, and I just found it kind of slow and boring. Not sure if they're all like that or if III is slower than the others. I've still got my copy so I'll probably go back and finish it sometime.

I heard people were disappointed in the ending, but I think it comes down to investment-- I'm sure there are some fans who are really into the story aspect of AC, but in general players are going to be way more invested in an RPG that's all about your personal character and story like ME.
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']I'd never played an Assassin's Creed game before III, and I just found it kind of slow and boring. Not sure if they're all like that or if III is slower than the others. I've still got my copy so I'll probably go back and finish it sometime.

I heard people were disappointed in the ending, but I think it comes down to investment-- I'm sure there are some fans who are really into the story aspect of AC, but in general players are going to be way more invested in an RPG that's all about your personal character and story like ME.[/QUOTE]

III is much slower than all the others except 1 but it's not like the others are Tomb Raider or Uncharted. 2 & Brotherhood are the best games of that series.

Yeah I was big into the AC story and have been told that's why I'm more pissed than others, but Ubi has lost someone that bought the CE of each previous AC game.
 
[quote name='MSUHitman']
Yeah I was big into the AC story and have been told that's why I'm more pissed than others, but Ubi has lost someone that bought the CE of each previous AC game.[/QUOTE]

Ubisoft lost me with coming out with so many AC games back to back lol, spread it out! Mass Effect was spread out perfectly I thought, although at the end of ME2 I'd be arguing with my last statement haha.
 
I MISSED THE HAMSTER!!!

ah well, i'll get it on my next play through. I have about 170 Games on steam and like 10 or so on xbox to play yet... but i just keep playing ME. I plan to finish The Walking Dead soon, but otherwise, I am ok dabbling in other stuff while I play the game that truly makes me giddy.
 
Haha crap, I forgot about The Walking Dead, yeah I'm up to chapter 2 I think.

I also missed the hamster! lol That line was funny though, -paraphrasing here- "He's moving my stuff!"
 
[quote name='Arikado']I thought the scene was awkward as hell at first, but it has grown on me a bit. After all, she's supposed to be awkward and nerdy. When I saw it in my game, I stared at my screen with my jaw dropped.
Certainly didn't expect a musical number from her. :lol: I think the background music is a little too loud and the voice effect from her helmet distorts the quality of her singing voice somewhat, too. No in-game face model, either. :???: Rannoch was the ideal time to show it, but this would have been a good opportunity to correct that mistake.

Either way, she's got some great moments in the DLC.
She's a pretty crazy drunk and does a good impression of the Normandy SR-1 and SR-2. :lol: Oh, and when she practically breaks the fourth wall explaining things that people have theorized about is hilarious, too.
[/QUOTE]

At this point, it's another stupid controversy that isn't really worth being disappointed over. I just want to enjoy the last ride.

That's the thing though. After BioWare really phoned it in with that cheap photoshop, I gave up on them ever showing her face. And yeah, Tali's always been a bit nerdy, so her singing to Shepard was actually quite perfect. Also, yea, the digitization of her voice was very intentional.

Another thing, I watched all of the other romances. Most of them were absolutely terrible. Seen Ashley's yet?
It barely changes. Like an extra dialogue wheel. She STILL walks away in the end.
The only other one I thought was pretty good was Jack's (because it was hilarious).
"I'm gonna beat on you until candy comes out!" "Are you as excited as I am right now?" Shepard: "Oh, hell yes."
 
I thought the way they handled Liara as an LI was perfect in the DLC. Liara has always come across as a bit distant in terms of showing affection towards Shepard. But in the DLC she is openly affectionate and it comes across as "we're an item" without anything gratuitous and I think it works wonderfully. Especially the very last dialogue with her before boarding which solicits Shepard's response that sums up the series
"the best"
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']From what I've seen, Jack and Garrus seem to have received the best/most romance content in Citadel. That dancing scene practically made me gay for Garrus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlyFidcj1Gc[/QUOTE]


Oh man, that techno tango track is too good. I do have to call plot hole though, because there's no way in hell Shepard's got those moves. CERBERUS.
 
So I guess no more DLC means no more armor/weapon packs or alternate appearance packs.

Really glad I preordered from Gamestop to get the N7 Defender armor since it looks so badass and as far as I'm aware hasn't been made available in any other way.

Defender+armour.png
 
[quote name='chubbyninja1319']I thought the way they handled Liara as an LI was perfect in the DLC. Liara has always come across as a bit distant in terms of showing affection towards Shepard. But in the DLC she is openly affectionate and it comes across as "we're an item" without anything gratuitous and I think it works wonderfully. Especially the very last dialogue with her before boarding which solicits Shepard's response that sums up the series
"the best"
[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but Shepard says that to everyone. Not just Liara :p

My other problem is that Liara kept going "we're not going to win" throughout ME3. Gee, thanks for spoiling it.
 
I actually liked Miranda's romantic content in Citadel a bit more than anyone else's. I'm probably in the minority on this one.
 
Hmm I'll look at the link, it took me to the bioware social site so maybe you have to log in there as I was automatically logged in and at the download page.

A heads up:
From ME twitter
"Server maintenance is scheduled tonight between 11pm-12:01am PST. NOTE: You may experience some MP connection issues during this time."
 
I thought Liara's was good, as she is my main squeeze. It isn't so much tat she is negative Nancy about our chances of winning, but since she "turned dark" in taking over the role of Shadow Broker, was straight up with Shepard that she has changed. She, of all of the interests IMO, truly LOVES Shepard the most. The actions she took, and complete sacrifice of her morals and character to bring him back, is above and beyond anything the others did. From her events in the comics, through Shadow Broker, and to their last love scene, she wants nothing MORE than to win, but think she kept him grounded in reality that the odds were heavily against them, didn't want to go through all she did to lose him again, and often tried to throw barriers up (pun intended) to protect herself from being hurt.

The greatness of their dynamic to me was she was always in the background from ME1 the science nerd. She was always "young" and vulnerable. She grew the most (sans Jack) in finding their identity throughout the series. In Liara's case, she never came across to me as the type of person SHE though she would become. Hesitant to take power, yet wields it superbly. Loved fiercely and was very protective, yet always the most afraid of being hurt. Came from nothing but pursuit of knowledge to having infinite wisdom at her fingers.

Their DLC content about her piano song I thought was remarkable contextually, as it really tossed in there her very most protected and emotional memory. It showed that she was willing to share with Shepard the one thing that got her through her ME1 days as a scientist, through her fear, and made everything OK. That gesture to me, symbolized her ultimate opening up to him, dropping her barriers (PUN) and giving him access to her most sensitive and protected feelings.

I went through with Jack, Tali, Miranda... well everyone but Ashley (who is on this playthrough) and feel none of them carry the emotional weight and partnership that Liara did... but thats just me.
 
^ Very well said, 'Mason. I think that's what I like about Liara, she truly developed as a character through the trilogy. Even though it's not spelled out in-game, she did go farther than anyone for Shepard. It just happened in the comics (which everyone should read. Shame on you!).

On the MP side, I finally got my first gold solo after 9 previous attempts. Geth Soldier FTW!!! Burn bitches! Burn!

this one is just for me, cuz I'm in a silly mood now:
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[quote name='Freemason']I thought Liara's was good, as she is my main squeeze. It isn't so much tat she is negative Nancy about our chances of winning, but since she "turned dark" in taking over the role of Shadow Broker, was straight up with Shepard that she has changed. She, of all of the interests IMO, truly LOVES Shepard the most. The actions she took, and complete sacrifice of her morals and character to bring him back, is above and beyond anything the others did. From her events in the comics, through Shadow Broker, and to their last love scene, she wants nothing MORE than to win, but think she kept him grounded in reality that the odds were heavily against them, didn't want to go through all she did to lose him again, and often tried to throw barriers up (pun intended) to protect herself from being hurt.

The greatness of their dynamic to me was she was always in the background from ME1 the science nerd. She was always "young" and vulnerable. She grew the most (sans Jack) in finding their identity throughout the series. In Liara's case, she never came across to me as the type of person SHE though she would become. Hesitant to take power, yet wields it superbly. Loved fiercely and was very protective, yet always the most afraid of being hurt. Came from nothing but pursuit of knowledge to having infinite wisdom at her fingers.

Their DLC content about her piano song I thought was remarkable contextually, as it really tossed in there her very most protected and emotional memory. It showed that she was willing to share with Shepard the one thing that got her through her ME1 days as a scientist, through her fear, and made everything OK. That gesture to me, symbolized her ultimate opening up to him, dropping her barriers (PUN) and giving him access to her most sensitive and protected feelings.

I went through with Jack, Tali, Miranda... well everyone but Ashley (who is on this playthrough) and feel none of them carry the emotional weight and partnership that Liara did... but thats just me.[/QUOTE]

I don't agree with everything you said, but I do respect your opinion. And that's fine. If that's what you believe, I won't try to change it.

Also, my favorite tracks from Citadel OST were The End & Farewell and Into the Inevitable.
 
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[quote name='Freemason']I thought Liara's was good, as she is my main squeeze. It isn't so much tat she is negative Nancy about our chances of winning, but since she "turned dark" in taking over the role of Shadow Broker, was straight up with Shepard that she has changed. She, of all of the interests IMO, truly LOVES Shepard the most. The actions she took, and complete sacrifice of her morals and character to bring him back, is above and beyond anything the others did. From her events in the comics, through Shadow Broker, and to their last love scene, she wants nothing MORE than to win, but think she kept him grounded in reality that the odds were heavily against them, didn't want to go through all she did to lose him again, and often tried to throw barriers up (pun intended) to protect herself from being hurt.

The greatness of their dynamic to me was she was always in the background from ME1 the science nerd. She was always "young" and vulnerable. She grew the most (sans Jack) in finding their identity throughout the series. In Liara's case, she never came across to me as the type of person SHE though she would become. Hesitant to take power, yet wields it superbly. Loved fiercely and was very protective, yet always the most afraid of being hurt. Came from nothing but pursuit of knowledge to having infinite wisdom at her fingers.

Their DLC content about her piano song I thought was remarkable contextually, as it really tossed in there her very most protected and emotional memory. It showed that she was willing to share with Shepard the one thing that got her through her ME1 days as a scientist, through her fear, and made everything OK. That gesture to me, symbolized her ultimate opening up to him, dropping her barriers (PUN) and giving him access to her most sensitive and protected feelings.

I went through with Jack, Tali, Miranda... well everyone but Ashley (who is on this playthrough) and feel none of them carry the emotional weight and partnership that Liara did... but thats just me.[/QUOTE]

Multiply this x 100 when it's with FemShep.
 
[quote name='Spybreak8']Hmm I'll look at the link, it took me to the bioware social site so maybe you have to log in there as I was automatically logged in and at the download page.

A heads up:
From ME twitter
"Server maintenance is scheduled tonight between 11pm-12:01am PST. NOTE: You may experience some MP connection issues during this time."[/QUOTE]Try here (requires BSN / Origin login):

http://social.bioware.com/me3citadelsoundtrack.php
 
this weeks balance changes

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March 12, 2013
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Commendation Pack Weapons
- The following weapons have been added to the ultra rare pool of cards
- N7 Valkyrie Assault Rifle
- N7 Eagle Pistol
- N7 Crusader Shotgun
- N7 Hurricane SMG
- N7 Valiant Sniper Rifle

Spectre Mastery
- Fixed an issue where medals earned could become stuck on completion

Squad Elite
- Added a new challenge to complete 25 matches on 'unknown enemy'
- Added a new challenge to complete 25 matches on 'unknown map'

Talon Omni-Bow Mechanics
- Base number of arrows fired increased from 3 to 5
- Omni-Bow max charge length decreased from 3 seconds to 0.35 seconds, so holding the heavy melee
button will cause the attack to release almost instantly

Elite Mercenary Passive Power
- Base charge regeneration cooldown decreased from 90 to 60 seconds
- Evolution 5 charge regeneration bonus increased from 50% to 100%

Omni-Bow Mastery Passive Power
- Base Omni-Bow damage bonus increased from 10% to 15%
- Rank 3 Omni-Bow damage bonus increased from 20% to 25%
- Evolution 1 Omni-Bow damage bonus increased from 30% to 35%
- Evolution 3 Omni-Bow killing spree damage bonus decreased from 50% to 25% but duration increased
from 8 seconds to 30 seconds
- Evolution 5 Omni-Bow damage bonus increased from 40% to 50%

Concussive Arrows Power
- Base number of arrows fired increased from 4 to 5 when you have this power active

Armor-Piercing Arrows Power
- Number of charges loaded per grenade increased from 2 to 3, so for each grenade used
you can fire 3 charges of Armor-Piercing arrows before going back to normal arrows
- Base damage reduced from 100 to 75
- Base number of arrows fired increased from 4 to 5 when you have this power active

Ancient Warrior Passive Power (Collector)
- Base Ascension Stance duration increased from 30 to 45 seconds
- Base Ascension Stance damage taken penalty reduced from 20% to 15%
- Evolution 5 Ascension Stance damage taken penalty reduced from 20% to 10%

Repair Matrix Power
- Base duration decreased from 15 to 8 seconds
- Base number of shields restored per second reduced from 150 to 75
- Evolution 1 damage reduction bonus decreased from 10% to 5%
- Evolution 6 damage reduction bonus decreased from 15% to 10%

Alliance Infiltration Unit
- Base melee damage reduced from 400 to 350
- Base heavy melee damage reduced from 750 to 650

Biotic Focus Power
- Evolution 6 damage reduction bonus increased from 15% to 20%
- Evolution 6 melee damage bonus increased from 20% to 30%

Poison Strike Power
- Base poison damage per second increased from 60 to 75

Adas Anti-Synthetic Assault Rifle
- Base damage increased from [161.9-202.4] to [178.1-222.6]

Geth Spitfire Assault Rifle
- Base damage increased from [56.5-70.6] to [62.2-77.8]

Venom Shotgun
- Damage multiplier when fully charged increased from 10% to 25%

Blood Pack Punisher SMG
- Base damage increased from [38.2-47.75] to [40.1-50.1]

Hex Shield Power
- Fixed a bug where enemy Geth Prime siege pulse projectiles could pass through the shield
Click to expand...

repair matrix duration nerf, saw that coming
talon buffs, we'll see if he is usuable beyond cain spam

all promotional weapons are now in the UR card pool so the last weekend op seems to be the last of this game
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']What's this I read about the singleplayer versions of the weapons being rebalanced to match the multiplayer versions?[/QUOTE]I don't know, where did you read it?
 
[quote name='Ryuukishi']What's this I read about the singleplayer versions of the weapons being rebalanced to match the multiplayer versions?[/QUOTE]

Gah, I hope not. See no real reason for it.
 
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