Metroid Prime 3 - Do Mother Brains' Have PMS? - 9.5 From IGN!

I broke down and got it from Wal*Mart. Gonna return my Target copy to them once it comes.
[quote name='CouRageouS']Is anyone NOT using advanced setting in controls/sensitivity? Just asking out of curiousity.[/quote]
I'm gonna try the middle setting.
[quote name='CouRageouS']I think I'm near the end now. I'm about 60% with 9 hours. So far my only complaints are that it doesn't have a variety in beams and theres no achievement/token/voucher list. I think the tokens are unbalanced too. I have something like 60 reds and after buying a bunch of stuff I don't think I'll ever use them up.[/quote] Red=scans? fuck, after trying out the visor interface, I vowed I wouldn't give a shit about scanning. There goes that. :roll:
 
[quote name='lilboo']I just thought of something.
Since this game is console specific code, rather then individual Mii codes like in Mario Strikers, if I were to send a voucher your way.. would you AND your son get one? Or just you? Would it be whoever gets to the game first..? My friend is probably going to start a save file on my game.. I just don't want him getting all my vouchers, lmao![/QUOTE]

Well, I can answer that. The vouchers come to the system and get shared - but not in a good way. If I start up his game it says how many friend vouchers there are to claim (sent from CAGs). If he takes one, then it is gone for good. So, yes, your friend could snag all of the ones sent to you :lol:. It is whoever claims them first. That's why I need twice as many (but, like I said, also have twice as many to send out in return).

Doomed - you get red medals from scanning people/pirates/monsters. You get blues from scanning lore (usually fairly obvious computer terminals or paintings, things like that). The "normal" stuff is not necessary to scan.
 
[quote name='io']Well, I can answer that. The vouchers come to the system and get shared - but not in a good way. If I start up his game it says how many friend vouchers there are to claim (sent from CAGs). If he takes one, then it is gone for good. So, yes, your friend could snag all of the ones sent to you :lol:. It is whoever claims them first. That's why I need twice as many (but, like I said, also have twice as many to send out in return).
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Oooh! Because yesterday a CAG sent me a friend voucher and when it came up it asked me how many I wanted to get credit for. I was kinda confused since I thought.. Well, if someone sent me 4, why would I only want 3?! But this makes much sense now! Thanks for clearing that up for me!
 
[quote name='Doomed']I'm gonna try the middle setting.[/QUOTE]
Don't do it! I tried out the other settings earlier to feel the difference, turning was way too slow. Some enemies and especially bosses are way too quick to not use the advanced setting. It really is the perfect FPS handling. I wish there was a quick turn around, I often press Z and down on the analog out of habit from RE4.
 
[quote name='CouRageouS']Don't do it! I tried out the other settings earlier to feel the difference, turning was way too slow. Some enemies and especially bosses are way too quick to not use the advanced setting. It really is the perfect FPS handling. I wish there was a quick turn around, I often press Z and down on the analog out of habit from RE4.[/QUOTE]

What is it in by default? I was kind of annoyed by what seemed like slightly slow turning when I was fighting
Rundas
. I've never looked at the settings so it is what it is by default.
 
Its in the lowest by default I think. After IGN's video review I immediately just went into advanced in the options before I even started playing.

I'm thinking I have enough friend vouchers. I had earned about 16 and sent them out and recieved more then I can return. I probably have enough to get all the bonuses but my past 2 hours of gameplay got me no new vouchers. I'm thinking of starting a new file real quick, and kill 1000 of those bug things in the beginning for a quick 10 vouchers to pass out to the people I owe them to.
 
[quote name='Zen Davis']I think default is old school prime lock-on with no free aim.[/QUOTE]

Definitely not. I didn't change a thing and there ain't no lock-on happening. Well, the camera locks on to a target, but you still have to aim the Wiimote. And the lock-on is flaky as hell. It is actually a hinderance in some of the boss fights as it breaks frequently and then you have to recenter. It seems like it breaks every time you get hit or something (though not every time, I can't quite figure it out). I'd rather just control the camera myself than have that happen.
 
No, the default is "standard," the middle option. Advanced takes a little bit of getting use to, but it's the only way to go.

io, the next voucher I get goes to you. If anyone else added me and is waiting for me to return the favor, let me know. :)
 
Anyone else having trouble beating Mogenar? I tried 25+ times and the farthest I can get is destroying 2 of the 4 balls. And you can't beat him if your health gets to the last part due to hypermode not working with low energy.

Every other boss has only taken me 2 tries. Maybe the other stuff is too easy but mogenar is near impossible.
 
Yes, default is standard, which is just slower turning with free aim.

The lower option is the old lock on with no free aim, and advanced is the same as standard, just with much higher sensitivity and faster turning.

Advanced is the way to go, though it is annoying sometimes as it is so sensitive it's hard to keep the aim straight forward as it has a very small area in the middle where you're not spinning one way or the other. But it is the best of the three options.
 
[quote name='Swingman']Anyone else having trouble beating Mogenar? I tried 25+ times and the farthest I can get is destroying 2 of the 4 balls. And you can't beat him if your health gets to the last part due to hypermode not working with low energy.

Every other boss has only taken me 2 tries. Maybe the other stuff is too easy but mogenar is near impossible.[/quote]

I was thinking that I was fucked when I played that boss, but I was patient and eventually got it, here's what you do
shoot the balls when he tries to grab them to make sure he never gets new balls in his body. Just avoid his attacks and wait around and energy comes up every once in a while. Repeat and get energy until you have enough to survive.
It's really all about patience, it'll take a little time, but you'll beat him.
 
Yea I know how to beat him, I just can't get it done before he kills me.

Most of the problem tends to be when I have to plant bombs at his feet. You can't get within 5 feet without it hurting you, which doesn't really make much sense. When you do, it takes about 20+ energy each time. Then he runs right over you if you don't get out of the way.
 
[quote name='Swingman']Yea I know how to beat him, I just can't get it done before he kills me.

Most of the problem tends to be when I have to plant bombs at his feet. You can't get within 5 feet without it hurting you, which doesn't really make much sense. When you do, it takes about 20+ energy each time. Then he runs right over you if you don't get out of the way.[/quote]

You just bomb him and wait for energy, you only have to bomb after destroying a ball.
 
[quote name='CouRageouS']Its in the lowest by default I think. After IGN's video review I immediately just went into advanced in the options before I even started playing.

I'm thinking I have enough friend vouchers. I had earned about 16 and sent them out and recieved more then I can return. I probably have enough to get all the bonuses but my past 2 hours of gameplay got me no new vouchers. I'm thinking of starting a new file real quick, and kill 1000 of those bug things in the beginning for a quick 10 vouchers to pass out to the people I owe them to.[/QUOTE]

You'll occasionally get vouchers for other things, as well. What I can recall:

Shatter 20 frozen reptile enemies on Bryyo. On that bridge in Skytown where there is a row of steambots all lined up, use the boost ball to bowl through them.

I'm sure I came across others, but I can't remember what they are. You also can get a bunch of yellow tokens at the end of the game for wandering around and killing the red phazoids you come across.

Oh, and the best way to kill a Metroid is
X-ray visor + Nova beam = one hit sniping kills!
 
[quote name='SpazX']You just bomb him and wait for energy, you only have to bomb after destroying a ball.[/QUOTE]

I realize that but I lose excessive amounts of health each of the 2 times (I can't even make it to the 3rd one).

They should just make the boss easier after 20 tries so people don't get drained on one boss. I'm about to put the game up and forget it.
 
Swingman, remembering that holding a charge draws powerups to you. What I did was
destroy a ball and bomb his feet and then just keep runing around dodging and shooting as need be. Various things bring energy to the field and doing a lot of charging will just draw it to you. It takes a while that way, but you can refill all your energy tanks if you want to via that method. I usuall just made sure I had 2+ before hitting the hyper mode again. You also don't have to get real close to the feet for the bombs to work. Try straffing the outside of his feet with bombs; don't go in between them.
 
[quote name='daroga']Swingman, remembering that holding a charge draws powerups to you. What I did was
destroy a ball and bomb his feet and then just keep runing around dodging and shooting as need be. Various things bring energy to the field and doing a lot of charging will just draw it to you. It takes a while that way, but you can refill all your energy tanks if you want to via that method. I usuall just made sure I had 2+ before hitting the hyper mode again. You also don't have to get real close to the feet for the bombs to work. Try straffing the outside of his feet with bombs; don't go in between them.
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That's what I did,
I had blown up two balls and thought I was dead, then figured out that energy was coming up so I just jumped around with a charged shot collecting energy until I was full, then went for another ball, then collected energy until full again, then finished him off. I'm paranoid about energy so you don't really have to fill up all the way, but that's pretty much the pattern.
I tried to stay away from the feet while bombing. How many energy tanks do you have? Maybe you can go pick up another one before you try again. IIRC I had 4.
 
I don't want to sound like a hardcore braggart, as I usually suck at FPSs, but I'm surprised people are having trouble with this game. I'm playing on Veteran and I feel like I've got fairly poor aim, but I'm finding the game to be really easy (and I'm only a few hours away from finishing it). It might just be that I've played both other Prime games on hard, so I'm kind of used to how Metroid games work. Like most bosses are pretty easy if you're really patient and figure out when and how they give you opportunities to regain health. Like most of them will shoot some kind of projectile that can be shot and you can gain health from it. Then you just need to pay attention to their attacks and how to play defensively. The third seed boss took me upwards of 20 minutes, but I beat him on my second try by being really patient and playing defensively.
 
This is my first 3D Metroid game so that might be why I'm struggling. I didn't have any problems with the other bosses and everything else has been a relative breeze. I've just been stuck on magenar for about 4 days now and it's getting annoying for me since I want to move on with the game.

How do you do the spoiler buttons?
 
[quote name='Swingman']How do you do the spoiler buttons?[/quote]Put "[spoiler ]" and "[/spoiler ]" around the text, only without the quotes and the spaces after the word.
 
[quote name='Swingman']This is my first 3D Metroid game so that might be why I'm struggling. I didn't have any problems with the other bosses and everything else has been a relative breeze. I've just been stuck on magenar for about 4 days now and it's getting annoying for me since I want to move on with the game.

How do you do the spoiler buttons?[/quote]

It took me about half an hour to win that battle. Basically you bomb his feet and run away and then roll around and collect all the energy he drops. Don't bother charging as you're going to get caught by him. Just roll around and gather up all the energy he drops. It's basically a battle of attrition.

If you try to kill him right away, you're going to get hammered. Take out the front three and do whatever it takes to stop him from getting more balls. If you keep letting him get those balls back you might as well reset the game and try again. Until you're able to do that, the battle is unwinnable.

That or you can send me a save on an SD card and I will beat it for you and mail you the SD card back at your cost. :)
 
[quote name='Zen Davis']That or you can send me a save on an SD card and I will beat it for you and mail you the SD card back at your cost. :)[/QUOTE]
He can actually just upload the save from the SD card, then we can have a CAG race to who can beat it for him first!

Though I don't know if that would even work since the save files are tied to Miis :whistle2:k
 
[quote name='CouRageouS']He can actually just upload the save from the SD card, then we can have a CAG race to who can beat it for him first!

Though I don't know if that would even work since the save files are tied to Miis :whistle2:k[/quote]
Bah God. You're right.

Dude just put your save online and one of us will beat him for you.
 
[quote name='CouRageouS']He can actually just upload the save from the SD card, then we can have a CAG race to who can beat it for him first!

Though I don't know if that would even work since the save files are tied to Miis :whistle2:k[/QUOTE]

Well, you can send Miis to people console! This seems like a fun experiment! This doesn't have to be done over the internet..but for someone who knows someone with a Wii..try it out! Make sure that they have the same Mii as you..and..try it out :)
 
I downloaded saves for Excite Truck and whatever else. If you guys want to check it out, I'll put up my Metroid 3 save for you to download.

Anyone up for it?
 
Actually, I don't think it would work.

You see, save files are tied to the Mii. Meaning if you tried to load it up to a different system, the Mii wouldn't be there...

See where I'm going with this? I beat it already and I have a strategy for you, although dangerous, it does work.

Go into Hyper Mode. Only fire in Hyper Mode. When you get low on Phazon, become corrupted (Phazon Bar goes red). Remember to drain when appropriate until you vent. You will lose minimal health. It's dangerous, but it makes the game a lot easier if you can do it effectively.

As for Good Ol' Strategy...
Destroy 1 Red Ball at a time, then destroy the hole. He can't regenerate an orb there if the area is destroyed. Go for the 3 on the front first. After that, he'll start charging at you, leaving his backside open for MASSIVE DAMAGE.
 
Thanks for all the suggestions. I have already been going with destroying the hole permanently before moving onto the next. Then I get trampled over when he goes back and forth stomping and I'm trying to bomb his feet.

I'll give it a couple more tries tomorrow.
 
To dodge the trampling, do the sideways jumps while you're locked on. I dodged most of his attacks like that. I'd give more pointers, but it's been awhile since I fought him.
 
[quote name='Swingman']Thanks for all the suggestions. I have already been going with destroying the hole permanently before moving onto the next. Then I get trampled over when he goes back and forth stomping and I'm trying to bomb his feet.

I'll give it a couple more tries tomorrow.[/QUOTE]
Is the problem that you're dying before you can finish him off? Maybe you could try and see if theres a tank or two that you missed. Could help.
 
Just beat the game on Veteran. Here's my spoilerless list of pros and cons as compared to other Metroid Primes.

Pros:
-Fastest paced Metroid yet (some backtracking, but in a good way. Not tedious just to increase play time like parts of the first 2. And the "warp" points i.e. your ship, helps a great deal in trimming the fat).
-Largest Prime geographically. Lots to explore.
-The least combat heavy of the Primes. I like combat, but not when it gets in the way of me trying to get from place to place. Despite its' more conventional control scheme, Prime 3 is an adventure first and an action game second. I loved it.

Cons:
-Voice-acted NPCs (well, any NPCs) were all pretty lame and took away more than they added. I mean an escort mission in Metroid. C'mon.
-Terrible opening. The "tutorial" phase lasted at least twice as long as it needed to and the early environments were really bland.
-Secrets seemed a bit easier to discover this time around. I finished at 87%. My record was 77% in both earlier Primes.
-A lot of the upgrades were a bit lame. Most of which were essentially "keys" that allowed you to get past specific doors and barriers, but had little impact on the core gameplay.

Neutral:
-Controls are neither better nor worse. Different, but equal is the best I can describe it. For the most part I liked them, but I felt like a lot of the bosses felt too similar to play because they often came down to precision aiming at the weak spot. The bosses were still wildly creative, varied, and a whole lot of fun, but just the idea of having to manual aim made them all feel a bit too similar.
-Bosses are still awesome (and plentiful).
-Environments are still very pretty (after the first hour at least).

So overall I'd say it was a worthy successor to Primes 1 and 2. If I had to choose a favorite, I'd probably still go with Prime 2 due to its' devious puzzles, secrets, and bosses, and it's hard to choose after that. I guess I'd say I liked Prime 3 a bit better than the first. It was a bit more hit-and-miss than the first game, but I felt like the pacing made it an all around more enjoyable experience. Hope you all enjoy it as well!
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Mogenar sucks fucking balls!!![/QUOTE]

Finally beat this fucker. Took a good 2 1/2 to 3 hours of trying. I had 5 energy tanks (which I think are the most you can have at this point) and still struggled.

Though part of it was that my Wiimote batteries were low so the aiming was a bit non-responsive, beat him on the 2nd try after changing batteries (after god knows how many before).

I have to say the whole hyper mode taking a tank of life each time is a bit lame if they're going to make boss battles require hyper mode shots to damage them in certain points.

This battle was needlessly drawn out because of that and having to dodge around and wait for chances to get health to be able to go into hyper mode and finish it off.

I'm still absolutely loving the game, but jesus christ was that boss a pain the ass!!
 
Wow, I usually suck at games like this compared to most CAGs (and take 3-4 times as long, usually, too). But is this boss you are all talking about the guy with the glowing red orbs and he snags new ones if you don't shoot them down? I just beat him tonight and, though he was somewhat challenging, I did it on my first try. I think I had 4 (possibly 5?) energy tanks. Yeah, the hypermode shooting is always annoying when you have to do it at the end of a boss fight, but as others have said you get plenty of health items (though seemingly fewer than in some earlier ones). Personally, I had more trouble with Rundas. I think I actually lost that one once. And the bosses on Elysia seem much easier for whatever reason (though I ain't done there yet by any means).

As for the length of the game, did I read correctly that someone here finished it around 9 hours? If so, :shock:. I'm at 8 1/2 and I'm at 22% I think. But I play very thoroughly (slowly and deliberately). I just got the plasma beam and I plan on going back for every orange door I remember seeing in multiple places.

Someone mentioned getting vouchers for other things. I wish I had known about bowling the robots on Elysia. Is that in the part where the bridge falls (and thus you only have one chance)? I did pick one up for finding a shortcut - freezing one of the gel falls (look up) and going through it to get a shortcut back to the ship. It was a nice thing, too, because it saved going through several rooms.
 
I mentioned I had 9 hours and 60% earlier and am very well close to finishing the game. I believe other people have finished at about 12 hours.

The bowling voucher can be had if you ball charge into any group of those weak robot dudes. They regenerate in this one ring shaped room that I believe is pretty close to a landing point.
 
[quote name='CouRageouS']I mentioned I had 9 hours and 60% earlier and am very well close to finishing the game. I believe other people have finished at about 12 hours.

The bowling voucher can be had if you ball charge into any group of those weak robot dudes. They regenerate in this one ring shaped room that I believe is pretty close to a landing point.[/QUOTE]

Oh yeah, I went through there a few times last night. Now that I have the plasma beam I enjoy melting them ;). I'll have to remember to give the morph ball a shot though.
 
Finally got a chance to start this. Still getting used to controls.

Game is incredible. Enough said.

The way Samus takes Ridley out >>>>>>>>>>> all other video game heroes/heroines.
 
[quote name='help1']Congrats, but Metroid is a proven franchise, so it shouldn't be surprising at all that it outsold BioShock which isn't big among your casual gamers.[/QUOTE]

Right right.

I'm pretty sure two weeks ago everyone was saying "MP3? F that, Bioshock looks awesome."

And besides, I thought all the casual gamers were on the Wii, and big tough mean 360 fanbase eats iron nails for breakfast and dont gots no time to play around like babies.

And then on top of that, no one was going to buy MP3, cuz only 80 year old polident mamas and 44 year old soccer moms actually own the Wii.

So which excuse is it? I can't sit around for your Monday morning quarterbacking much longer.

Or Tuesday, in this case.

As much as I don't care to compare Prime and Bioshock, you act like fanboys haven't been sitting around talking about how MP3 totally sucks and how Bioshock is totally going to rape it.

Edit: Besides, what do you care anyway? We all know Halo 3 is going to come out and sell more than (Bioshock + MP3) x2. At least, it is likely that it will.
 
[quote name='help1']Congrats, but Metroid is a proven franchise, so it shouldn't be surprising at all that it outsold BioShock which isn't big among your casual gamers.[/quote]
I never actually made a comparison to Bioshock. Shoo troll shoo.

And if you knew anything about sales regarding the Prime franchise, you would know that Echoes pretty much bombed compared to the first Prime. Prime 3 is a litmus test, as was Resident Evil 4 Wii, for other developers to see that hardcore games will sell on Nintendo's little white box.
 
[quote name='help1']Congrats, but Metroid is a proven franchise, so it shouldn't be surprising at all that it outsold BioShock which isn't big among your casual gamers.[/QUOTE]

I always thought the 360 was the system of choice for casual gamers? I was surprised to see the hype for Bioshock was much bigger than Metroid considering Metroid's a proven franchise. I even forgot it was coming out until a week or so before launch. Everybody seemed to be talking about Bioshock (which is a good game, I won't knock it.)
 
Bioshock is great. I have it for PC. However, Metroid Prime 3 has more following. Wait until Super Mario Galaxy comes out. I suspect it will sell out.
 
For those of you having problems with some of the bosses, especially when they charge at you, you need to learn to dodge. If you lock on to an enemy, you can move to the left or right and double-tap B and you will dodge. If you do this multiple times in succession, you can successfully dodge most attacks.

This move has been around since MP1, but I don't think it is documented anywhere in MP3. The manual for this game completely sucks.
 
This is very surprising because MP3 wasn't hyped much until last minute. They really pulled something out of their ass here with the Preview Channel. That definitely helped it sell so well.
 
[quote name='io']Wow, I usually suck at games like this compared to most CAGs (and take 3-4 times as long, usually, too). But is this boss you are all talking about the guy with the glowing red orbs and he snags new ones if you don't shoot them down? I just beat him tonight and, though he was somewhat challenging, I did it on my first try. I think I had 4 (possibly 5?) energy tanks. Yeah, the hypermode shooting is always annoying when you have to do it at the end of a boss fight, but as others have said you get plenty of health items (though seemingly fewer than in some earlier ones). Personally, I had more trouble with Rundas. I think I actually lost that one once. And the bosses on Elysia seem much easier for whatever reason (though I ain't done there yet by any means).[/quote]

Beats me, I got through Rundas on my 3rd try, probably a good 20 on this fucker. I didn't seem to get many health items...so maybe I was doing something goofy there and that was my problem. And the low batteries didn't help either as the aiming was sluggish for a good while before I really noticed.

At any rate, hopefully that was just a fluke for me, and I won't have that much problems with other bosses as my patience was definitely wearing thin.

[quote name='io']
As for the length of the game, did I read correctly that someone here finished it around 9 hours? If so, :shock:. I'm at 8 1/2 and I'm at 22% I think. But I play very thoroughly (slowly and deliberately). I just got the plasma beam and I plan on going back for every orange door I remember seeing in multiple places.
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I'd be shocked if somone did it in 9 hours on a first run through. I could see it on a Prime game on a second or 3rd though. Especially since the game time counter always seems below your actual play time (check your log in the Wii calendar and compare). Was even that way for Super Metroid, final save time was 5 something, time in Wii log was over 8 hours (and I only died and "lost" game time twice, and no where near 3 hours worth).
 
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