Metroid Prime 3 - Do Mother Brains' Have PMS? - 9.5 From IGN!

[quote name='lebowsky']For those of you having problems with some of the bosses, especially when they charge at you, you need to learn to dodge. If you lock on to an enemy, you can move to the left or right and double-tap B and you will dodge. If you do this multiple times in succession, you can successfully dodge most attacks.

This move has been around since MP1, but I don't think it is documented anywhere in MP3. The manual for this game completely sucks.[/QUOTE]

Yep I used that extensively against Mogenar, I didn't have problems with him hitting me too much. Just problems with running out of life to use the Hypermode shots to destroy the four orb spots once they were glowing.
 
[quote name='Zen Davis']
And if you knew anything about sales regarding the Prime franchise, you would know that Echoes pretty much bombed compared to the first Prime. Prime 3 is a litmus test, as was Resident Evil 4 Wii, for other developers to see that hardcore games will sell on Nintendo's little white box.[/QUOTE]

Yep, so I'm glad it's doing well. But I'm not surprised. I figured it would sell well initially, as of the Wii owners a good chunk of early adopters are going to be hardcore Nintendo fans, and this is really the first big game for them since Zelda at Launch (games like SPM, Strikers etc. are kind of side series that dont' generate the same kind of excitement as a main series Mario, Metroid or Zelda).

Will be interesting to see if it keeps selling well and can get over the 1 million mark this year.

But at least this and RE4 should should developers that there is a marker of Core gamers on the Wii, and they can put out something other than fucking mini-game collections!
 
Just an FYI, there's no doubt Metroid will sell well, but it ain't anywhere near confirmed to be 400k.

1) Gamasutra charts Amazon sales (not any sort of national sampling). Metroid was the overall top seller on Amazon last week when it was released. It beat Bioshock, which was on its second week, so not terribly surprising.

2) VGChartz says that Bioshock sold 400k its first week. Numbers are questionable, but let's just go with it.

3) N4G, whoever they are, takes VGChartz numbers, misreads Gamasutra as saying that Metroid's first week bested Bioshock's first week, therefore Metroid sold > 400k.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Beats me, I got through Rundas on my 3rd try, probably a good 20 on this fucker. I didn't seem to get many health items...so maybe I was doing something goofy there and that was my problem. And the low batteries didn't help either as the aiming was sluggish for a good while before I really noticed.

At any rate, hopefully that was just a fluke for me, and I won't have that much problems with other bosses as my patience was definitely wearing thin.



I'd be shocked if somone did it in 9 hours on a first run through. I could see it on a Prime game on a second or 3rd though. Especially since the game time counter always seems below your actual play time (check your log in the Wii calendar and compare). Was even that way for Super Metroid, final save time was 5 something, time in Wii log was over 8 hours (and I only died and "lost" game time twice, and no where near 3 hours worth).[/QUOTE]


My final time for my first play through was 13 hours with 83% items collected on veteran, but when I check the Wii calender and add up the time it was closer to 20 hours. Basically I think the in game clock does not count time for cut scenes, menus, dying and restarting. Right now on my second run through skipping all the cut scenes I feel like I will probably clock in around 5 hours at the end of the game. Of course the lack of scanning will help that time. I would not be surprised to see a speed run of around 2 hours or less for this game.
 
Stupid internet enabled consoles. Let's any random jackass
send harassing pictures to your unsuspecting home. Won't someone think of the children?

Now I have to put Metroid in my Wii. :whistle2:(

In case anyone cared, friend vouchers are sitting around there waiting for people to log into the game. Someone sent one to me at some point, and I just got it as I created my save file.
 
[quote name='botticus']Stupid internet enabled consoles. Let's any random jackass
send harassing pictures to your unsuspecting home. Won't someone think of the children?

[/quote]

Does someone need a hug?
 
[quote name='botticus']Stupid internet enabled consoles. Let's any random jackass
send harassing pictures to your unsuspecting home. Won't someone think of the children?

Now I have to put Metroid in my Wii. :whistle2:(
[/QUOTE]

I guess Nintendo failed to think of the children once again :rofl:.

Sorry, I just bought the screenshot tool last night and went a little nuts with it at Elysia. It's too bad those pics are so small, though, as they don't really convey the beauty of that place. I sent 3 because I didn't realize I took so many pictures that the Wii message board shunted some off to a second page. The last one I sent you was the best and I didn't see that till the end. I figured of all the people on my list you'd appreciate it the most, having not started the game just yet (but with an interest in playing it). At least it wasn't pr0n from Strell...

On a separate note, why the fuck doesn't Nintendo let you send pictures to email addresses? I wanted to send some shots to my email so I could post them here and it doesn't allow that. Yet, I think you can send pictures via email to the Wii. Wierd...
 
[quote name='botticus']In case anyone cared, friend vouchers are sitting around there waiting for people to log into the game. Someone sent one to me at some point, and I just got it as I created my save file.[/quote]

Yeah that was me, I sent you my first one just to see how it worked (I thought maybe it would give me a credit just for sending it or something like advertising). Nice to know it floated around waiting for you.
 
[quote name='io']I guess Nintendo failed to think of the children once again :rofl:.

Sorry, I just bought the screenshot tool last night and went a little nuts with it at Elysia. It's too bad those pics are so small, though, as they don't really convey the beauty of that place. I sent 3 because I didn't realize I took so many pictures that the Wii message board shunted some off to a second page. The last one I sent you was the best and I didn't see that till the end. I figured of all the people on my list you'd appreciate it the most, having not started the game just yet (but with an interest in playing it). At least it wasn't pr0n from Strell...

On a separate note, why the fuck doesn't Nintendo let you send pictures to email addresses? I wanted to send some shots to my email so I could post them here and it doesn't allow that. Yet, I think you can send pictures via email to the Wii. Wierd...[/quote]Don't worry, I kid. It actually did make me put in the game. Currently fighting my way back to my ship.

After almost an hour (
just about to approach Generator A
), I'm enjoying it, and more importantly, without motion sickness. Woo!
 
[quote name='Sofa King Kool']I'm hopelessly stuck in this game...

I'm still only on Bryyo, and every level leads to some obstacle that I can't get around...[/QUOTE]

Well, I just completed Bryyo last night, so maybe I can help. What was the last thing you did (boss fight or upgrade-wise)?
 
[quote name='io']Well, I just completed Bryyo last night, so maybe I can help. What was the last thing you did (boss fight or upgrade-wise)?[/quote]

I beat the ice guy in one level. (fire level?) and there's a door I can't get through after that.

And in the jungle level, I get to that big radar jamming thing, yank the handle out, and try to aquire that landing site, but it says I need a ship upgrade first...
 
[quote name='Sofa King Kool']
I beat the ice guy in one level. (fire level?) and there's a door I can't get through after that.

And in the jungle level, I get to that big radar jamming thing, yank the handle out, and try to aquire that landing site, but it says I need a ship upgrade first...
[/QUOTE]

Now that you have the ice missles, you need to go somewhere where there is gel (the yellow stuff) pouring from some holes. Fire missles at them to freeze them into platforms and hop on them. There is also the room full of gel and you can make little spots to stand on by firing missles at the surface. You may have to do that first to get to the other part, I forget. But, basically, it sounds like it is an ice missile puzzle you have to deal with at this point. When you get the ship upgraded you go back to that jammer, pull it and then quickly call your ship as you have limited time.
 
I was never a fan of the other Prime games, but on a limb I rented Corruption last night. So far I really like it, and am probably going to buy it. I am very surprised at the graphics sometimes, and at other am very disappointed. From what I have played so far, I am loving the gameplay.
 
Dang, you guys are making me really want this game. I've tried beating Prime 1, but I just couldn't get into it. I keep hearing that this one is different and much better though. Now I just need to find a decent deal on it, lol.
 
[quote name='rodeojones903']I was never a fan of the other Prime games, but on a limb I rented Corruption last night. So far I really like it, and am probably going to buy it. I am very surprised at the graphics sometimes, and at other am very disappointed. From what I have played so far, I am loving the gameplay.[/QUOTE]

I have been very impressed with the graphics. The ONLY time it is disappointing to me is when you run up to a door to get it to open - the door texture gets enlarged and pixellated a bit too much.

Sure, it doesn't hold up compared to something like Bioshock in HD, but it is definitely top of the line for the Wii so far. More impressive is the fact that it has a rock solid smooth as butter framerate throughout. I haven't seen a single bit of slowdown - something that can't be said for many 360 games.

By the way, for those wondering about the default controls, I finally got around to switching mine last night. The default is "standard" which is the middle setting. There is also "basic" and "advanced". In both standard and advanced auto-aim is turned off by default as well. I switched to advanced and to be honest didn't see much of a difference between that and standard. Also, I am finding that except for the ability to strafe/dash in certain boss battles the lock-on is more of a hinderance that a help (in that it disengages frequently which just gets confusing as you either need to re-lock or go to free-look anyway). I end up using completely free aiming for many of the fights.

Coolest little touch in the game so far for me - the little wheeled maintainance robots in Sky Town. Just walk right up to one of those guys and watch him to see the way they scoot around using their one leg like a skateboarder. It is nice little subtle touches like this that help make the game more immersive. And I want one of those for my house ;).
 
[quote name='rodeojones903']I was never a fan of the other Prime games, but on a limb I rented Corruption last night. So far I really like it, and am probably going to buy it. I am very surprised at the graphics sometimes, and at other am very disappointed. From what I have played so far, I am loving the gameplay.[/quote]Though I'm only an hour in, I'm already enjoying it much more than the first hour of Prime (I just played that hour a few weeks ago, so I can compare them pretty easily). Hopefully it will continue! I love the way scanning works now, after I figured it out. Highlighting everything is much easier to interpret than orange and red boxes, especially at a distance.

I don't know if I should spoiler this or not for people who haven't played it at all, but what the hell (general question about what happens re: Samus as the game progresses):
Does Samus lose all her power-ups soon after the start of the game? Or does she just start off with more than the basic beam this time (morph ball + missilies, at least) and recover things as usual? I was surprised I could do all this stuff right from the start.
 
[quote name='botticus']Though I'm only an hour in, I'm already enjoying it much more than the first hour of Prime (I just played that hour a few weeks ago, so I can compare them pretty easily). Hopefully it will continue! I love the way scanning works now, after I figured it out. Highlighting everything is much easier to interpret than orange and red boxes, especially at a distance.

I don't know if I should spoiler this or not for people who haven't played it at all, but what the hell (general question about what happens re: Samus as the game progresses):
Does Samus lose all her power-ups soon after the start of the game? Or does she just start off with more than the basic beam this time (morph ball + missilies, at least) and recover things as usual? I was surprised I could do all this stuff right from the start.
[/quote]
She never loses eveything, it's all about upgrading what you start with. :)
 
[quote name='botticus']Yay![/QUOTE]

Yeah, it will become fairly obvious by the obstacles and inoperable doors you run into what those upgrades will be. No huge spoiler here as they come very early - one of the first upgrades is the ice missiles (opens white doors among other things). I also like that you don't have to switch between a bunch of different beams and weapon types like in the first game. At least so far I haven't and I just got a few more upgrades (including a new main beam type).
 
So I started a new game on veteran and so far haven't been awarded any yellow credits. I just landed on Bryyo so I haven't fought any of those bosses. Can anybody confirm that I'll get more credits later or is it pointless? It says on different difficulties and I beat it on normal and now I'm playing veteran so does that not count or something?
 
You still get yellow tokens, but friend vouchers are a one time only thing. But don't worry about the friend credits, you can use a new save file to make more because it allows you to assign friend vouchers received to any save file.

You should have been awarded a yellow token for beating the first boss on the ship and the boss on Norion.
 
[quote name='prisonerac']You still get yellow tokens, but friend vouchers are a one time only thing. But don't worry about the friend credits, you can use a new save file to make more because it allows you to assign friend vouchers received to any save file.

You should have been awarded a yellow token for beating the first boss on the ship and the boss on Norion.[/quote]
Yeah I remember getting them for those on normal, but I didn't get any on the replay on veteran. Do I have to play it in hyper mode to get anymore yellows? I'm pretty sure I'll die a lot in that mode and give up :p

I'm good as far as friend codes go, I'm pretty sure I have all I need, but I need 25 more yellows if I plan on unlocking everything.
 
[quote name='PrarieD0G']Dang, you guys are making me really want this game. I've tried beating Prime 1, but I just couldn't get into it. I keep hearing that this one is different and much better though. Now I just need to find a decent deal on it, lol.[/QUOTE]

While I would say that I'm enjoying it the most of the series thus far (probably played 11 hours or so, but much less "game time" since a good bit was spent dyign repeatedly on one boss), I would still say that someone who didn't like the first 2 games won't be swayed by this.

it's the same type of game with new controls and a bit better story (with the NPCs, voice acting etc.).
 
[quote name='Rodimus Donut']I just got my favorite item of the game: Spider Ball[/QUOTE]

Nah, the Screw Attack is cooler. :D But the Spider Ball still kicks all kinds of ass, especially with the creative track designs they have in this game.
 
[quote name='Callandor']Nah, the Screw Attack is cooler. :D But the Spider Ball still kicks all kinds of ass, especially with the creative track designs they have in this game.[/QUOTE]

I figured I'd be "Screw Attacking" my way all the way through the game, but I've barely used it. However it does have the cooler name of the two.
 
[quote name='clockworkgreen']This thread is turning into Leisure Suit Larry.[/quote]

"Samus is getting corrupted....And she LIKES it!"
 
[quote name='Sofa King Kool']I'm hopelessly stuck in this game...

I'm still only on Bryyo, and every level leads to some obstacle that I can't get around...[/quote]

Me too. I can't jump any of the gaps in Bryyo because I don't have the suit upgrade. Can someone tell me where it is?
 
[quote name='pinebarrens']Me too. I can't jump any of the gaps in Bryyo because I don't have the suit upgrade. Can someone tell me where it is?[/quote]This part gave me pause as well.
you'll reach a dead end where you need the grapple beam to go across the way and down a bit to reach a door. To the left of the gap is a wall with little bugs, etc. There's a small spot around there to bomb as the morph ball to get access to that wall and get over to the other side.
 
[quote name='daroga']This part gave me pause as well.
you'll reach a dead end where you need the grapple beam to go across the way and down a bit to reach a door. To the left of the gap is a wall with little bugs, etc. There's a small spot around there to bomb as the morph ball to get access to that wall and get over to the other side.
[/quote]

I thought I had reached a glitch in the game for a while when getting to this part. I thought the game had let me get to a spot that I could not get back out of. It took me about an hour to figure out what to do. I was pretty embarassed once I figured it out - it seemed so obvious.
 
Finished up Norion, stopped after getting to Bryyo.

I can't say I was thrilled with the little timed event thrown in there, but luckily when I died (couldn't for the life of me figure out where I was going) it put an extra minute back on the clock when I restarted.

Boss fight was awesome.
Took me far too long to figure out how to stop Ridley from smacking me around when we were up close, so I finished it with a whole 30 life left. Though I guess I had an energy pack or two in reserve, never really felt like finding out how that stuff works.
 
Just beated the game. Man, great great game, but the last part is way too easy.

Edit: Also got 100% @ 16 hours, seems like getting 100% is a lot easier too.
 
I'm on my...2nd playthrough of the game. Not having to scan everything makes this game go by FAST. I still need a third playthrough to get 1 final scan though :( but I'll do it to get it, but that's about it.

It's the first time I've gotten 100% in a Metroid game. I also have to believe that this is the most enjoyable gaming experience I've had...ever. I can't think of a game that challenged me as much, was easy to play, and astounded me more than this game, from my initial playthrough on Veteran difficulty.

I played Bioshock, and liked it. But, I guess when I go into a game questioning its' greatness, and it is great, I enjoy it more.
 
Put in a 4:45 marathon this evening. Got through the first two bosses in Sky City (man is that place sweet looking) and the back tracking to get the
screw attack
and saved after doing the 2nd ship upgrade.

Wasted some time backtracking on Norion and checking out the Valhalla that popped up randomly though I couldn't do much there with only 1 energy cell found thus far.

Amazing game so far. And it does look like Mogenar might just have been a fluke for me to struggle with him so long, as I beat the next 2 bosses each on my first try.
 
Got through Bryyo last night and onto Sky City. Only took me one try to get through Mogenar, luckily, though it was a pretty fun battle. The game just has much more slow and deliberate and patient battles than I'm used to.

Only got as far as to get the
boost ball
, then backtracked to a save point cause it was late. And now that I'm reading a game guide, I didn't backtrack at all, apparently I need to go that direction to fight
Ghor
.
 
Well I'm in the last area after a couple hours of play before bed last night. I like all the action near the end. It feels very rewarding. And sorry to anyone who I haven't been able to send vouchers to. I just don't have enough and I think I exchanged friend codes with too many people. I'll try to compensate by making a new save or something.

So I'm really considering trading this when I'm done, since with EBstop's 40% stacking deal I pretty much get all my credit back. I haven't decided if I wanted to play through it more than once yet, but I'm leaning towards no and picking up later down the line cheap.
 
Just beat it. Took me 18 hours with 85% I know that's not impressive but I never used a guide or faqs.

I was kinda slow due to the fact I'll pause it for a bit to do other stuff. The last boss was very easy, but then again I'm playing on normal. Now I can get back to Persona 3.
 
Alright I started a new game to kill all those bugs in the beginning and get some vouchers to give out. No one send me anymore! I have too many :lol:

If I send you one, just keep em and don't send one back.
 
Just finished the game on Veteran. Took me 19:50, and I got 100% completion. Got all the way to 98/100 pickups on my own, but the last two were giving me a huge amount of trouble. I broke down and looked up where they were after a few hours of wandering around like an idiot. =\ Not ashamed I did though, because one of them I never would've found in a million years.

Overall, I really really enjoyed the game. I was extremely skeptical of the game coming into it, but I left a satisfied customer. I pretty much agree with everything Mr Durand Pierre said, Metroid Prime 2 is probably the best to me, but I would probably rank the first game above 3. So, MP3 is my least favorite, but that is in no way a bad thing. These games are incredible.

Somewhere down the line I will play all three games through on hard/hyper mode in a row, but that will probably have to wait until next year. Until then, I will savor the fun I have had with Metroid Prime 3.

P.S. The graphics in this game are fabulous. Other developers should be ashamed of themselves for churning out ugly-ass games on the Wii.
 
Did another marathon session Thursday night. I've finished with Elysia and still no damn spider ball. When the hell do you get that? After finding the super-maps (the ones that show where pickups are) I headed back to Bryyo and Norion and encountered multiple spider ball puzzles. I really couldn't get many pickups in those places. It turns out I got most of them already except for these spider ball ones... I'm well into the next portion (won't spoil the name/location) and just got the X-ray visor. I was really expecting spiderball... It HAS to be coming soon!

Great, now I've got Homer's Spiderpig song going through my head...
 
I just started last night. I finished the first section and got in my ship and headed to a place called Norion. It's pretty good so far but there is A LOT of scanning and the controls definitely take some getting used to. Also, pulling the wiimote towards me never seems to work on the first try but I do like the interaction with door locks and levers and buttons and stuff. I also like the addition of voice acting and even though I suck at it right now I think the "lock-on but aim elsewhere" feature is going to be great. So far so good...
 
[quote name='javeryh']I just started last night. I finished the first section and got in my ship and headed to a place called Norion. It's pretty good so far but there is A LOT of scanning and the controls definitely take some getting used to. Also, pulling the wiimote towards me never seems to work on the first try but I do like the interaction with door locks and levers and buttons and stuff. I also like the addition of voice acting and even though I suck at it right now I think the "lock-on but aim elsewhere" feature is going to be great. So far so good...[/quote]

Make sure you change the controls to the Advanced setup if you haven't already. It makes a big difference, IMO.
 
I started sending out Friend Vouchers. I'm trying to get to everyone on my list who has sent me one. Then I'll backtrack and send repeats and ones to other people.

Game is fucking awesome. I'm really surprised at the caliber of level design goin' on.

Also, Mii Bobblehead fucking OWNZ. I WANT one.
 
[quote name='io']Did another marathon session Thursday night. I've finished with Elysia and still no damn spider ball. When the hell do you get that? After finding the super-maps (the ones that show where pickups are) I headed back to Bryyo and Norion and encountered multiple spider ball puzzles. I really couldn't get many pickups in those places. It turns out I got most of them already except for these spider ball ones... I'm well into the next portion (won't spoil the name/location) and just got the X-ray visor. I was really expecting spiderball... It HAS to be coming soon!

Great, now I've got Homer's Spiderpig song going through my head...[/QUOTE]

You'll get it soon...
 
[quote name='lebowsky']Make sure you change the controls to the Advanced setup if you haven't already. It makes a big difference, IMO.[/quote]

I didn't make any changes to the settings. I lock on to something but I'm free to shoot whatever. Is that "advanced" or something different?

Also, should I be playing on veteran or normal? I beat MP and MP2 if that counts for anything...

Strell - I think I sent you something last night but I don't know what I was doing...
 
[quote name='javeryh']I didn't make any changes to the settings. I lock on to something but I'm free to shoot whatever. Is that "advanced" or something different?

Also, should I be playing on veteran or normal? I beat MP and MP2 if that counts for anything...

Strell - I think I sent you something last night but I don't know what I was doing...[/quote]

I believe Advance allows for quicker turning.
 
Yeah, the default is standard.

Advanced works the same but the aiming is much more sensitive (i.e. there's not much of a bounding box in the middle) and turning is faster.

You change it under sensitivity in the options.
 
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