Mitsuharu Misawa memorial wrestling topic (1962-2009)

Because (A) the person running that can' even construct a proper sentence, (B) I followed said person's Twitter when it was first created, and they constantly tweeted false information to other "followers" and (C) "BethBrittBrand", Jeff Hardy's girlfriend, said it was a fake.

fuck. First I wake up to the news that Steve McNair is dead, and now this. The former is obviously much more serious than the latter, but it's still a really shitty way to start my day.
 
Eh. A is an internet phenomenon; Edge's promo skills (and I am a fan) don't automatically translate into good grammar/punctuation, esp considering the medium. :)

Either way, I don't pay enough attention to B and never followed C. So then, is JeffHardyBrand real? Matt?
 
what are some indy guys that you all are paying attention to?

My vote goes to Eddie Kingston. Great promos, doesn't look all " 180lbs semi-toned biker shorts knee pads kick pads ", can wrestle, has a new yawker accent, etc. He's great. Actually, the entire CHIKARA for me is just awesome. So much intuitive stuff compared to other companies out there. I'd love to see them on TV. Also, Larry Sweeny. Yes, he's a kitsch, but such a good, entertaining kitsch.
 
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Kingston needs a new finisher. The "Backfist To The Future" is lame.

Generico, Steen, Joey Ryan, and PWG's Scott Lost are must-watches.
 
I put these four gifs in a spoiler so it keeps things a bit neater. Saw these on the PWTorch forums from member Robert Miqueli. Enjoy.

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[quote name='JJSP']Kingston needs a new finisher. The "Backfist To The Future" is lame.

Generico, Steen, Joey Ryan, and PWG's Scott Lost are must-watches.[/QUOTE]

Attitude Adjustment > Backfist to the Future for lamest finisher name
 
At least Cena's finisher is an actual move. Kingston just ripped off the roaring elbow except it's a backhand.

I'll add Kenny Omega and Chuck Taylor as more indy guys that I wouldn't skip over.
 
Oops, forgot Chuck Taylor. Chuck Taylor will be a star. Then there's Hero who's getting a break in NOAH right now and Castingoli who supposedly had a WWE developmental contract before the economy sucked.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']Only thing I remember from that book is the story of him pulling a piss soaked matress out of the trash and spraying it down with lysol before sleeping on it while playing for the CFL.



Here's the tracklist


Disc 1
  • Jim Crockett Promotions
  • Georgia Championship Wrestling
  • Mid-Atlantic Championship Wrestling
  • Black Saturday
  • The Expansion
  • Crockett Sells to Turner
  • Greatest Talent in the World
  • New Management
  • Bill Watts Era
  • Bill Shaw Hires Eric Bischoff
  • Hulk Hogan Arrives
  • Nitro Debuts
  • nWo
  • Cruiserweights
  • Goldberg
  • WCW Ratings Champ
  • Celebrities
  • Goldberg vs. Hogan
  • Mistakes Begin
  • Vince Russo
  • A Corporate Merger
  • McMahon buys WCW
  • Legacy of WCW
  • Bonus Features
    • Lost in Cleveland
    • Bill Watts Defends Himself
    • Spam Man
    • The Origin of Goldberg
    • Bischoff Gives Away RAW Results
Disc 2
  • $1,000 Challenge Match
    Ric Flair vs. Magnum T.A.
    NWA World Championship Wrestling – June 15, 1985
  • Sting, Lex Luger & Barry Windham vs. Ric Flair, Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard (w/ JJ Dillon)
    The Main Event – April 3, 1988
  • United States Championship Match
    Dusty Rhodes vs. Barry Windham
    Great American Bash – July 10, 1988

    [*]NWA World Heavyweight Championship Match
    Ric Flair vs. Ricky ‘The Dragon’ Steamboat
    Chi-Town Rumble – February 20, 1989

    [*]The Rock ‘n’ Roll Express vs. The Midnight Express
    Wrestle War – February 25, 1990

    [*]NWA United States Tag Team Championship Match
    The Midnight Express vs. The Southern Boys
    Great American Bash – July 7, 1990

    [*]WCW World Tag Team Championship Match
    The Steiner Brothers vs. Sting & Lex Luger
    SuperBrawl – May 19, 1991
  • WCW World Heavyweight Championship Match
    Sting vs. Big Van Vader
    Great American Bash – July 12, 1992
  • WCW International World Heavyweight Championship Match
    Rick Rude vs. Sting
    Spring Stampede – April 17, 1994
  • WCW World Heavyweight Championship Match
    Ric Flair vs. Hulk Hogan
    Bash at the Beach – July 17, 1994

Disc 3
  • WCW World Heavyweight Championship Match
    Ric Flair vs. The Giant
    Nitro – April 29, 1996

    [*]WCW Cruiserweight Championship Match
    Rey Mysterio Jr. vs. Dean Malenko
    Clash of the Champions XXXIII – August 15, 1996

    [*]War Games Match
    Team WCW - Sting, Lex Luger, Ric Fair & Arn Anderson vs. Team n.W.o. - Hollywood Hulk Hogan, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall & a Mystery Partner
    Fall Brawl – September 15, 1996

    [*]United States Championship Ladder Match
    Syxx vs. Eddie Guerrero
    Souled Out – January 25, 1997
  • United States Championship No Disqualification Match
    Eddie Guerrero vs. Dean Malenko
    Uncensored – March 16, 1997

    [*]WCW Cruiserweight Championship Title vs. Mask Match
    Chris Jericho vs. Juventud Guerrera
    SuperBrawl VIII – February 22, 1998

    [*]WCW Unified World Tag Team Championship Match
    The Steiner Brothers vs. The Outsiders
    SuperBrawl VIII – February 22, 1998

    [*]Diamond Dallas Page & Karl Malone vs. Hollywood Hulk Hogan & Dennis Rodman
    Bash at the Beach – July 12, 1998

    [*]WCW World Heavyweight Championship Match
    Goldberg vs. Diamond Dallas Page
    Halloween Havoc – October 25, 1998
  • WCW World Heavyweight Championship Match
    Booker T vs. Lance Storm
    Nitro – August 7, 2000
I'm surprised that Flair/Sting from the last Nitro isn't included.[/QUOTE]

looks good
 
Here's the newest Vintage Collection show, with a focus on cruiserweights and featuring the original Tiger Mask vs. Masa Saito, with TM doing a bunch of stuff that the fans had clearly never seen. They gave him a standing ovation during the match, which was pretty cool to see since it was obviously genuine. There are also Psicosis-Ultimo, Tajiri-Brian Christopher, Savage-Dynamite Kid, and Dean vs. Rey from the '96 Bash matches on the show. Fitting with the theme of the show, there's also an excellent Evan Bourne hype video.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NYQM9CC9
 
New Jim Cornette article that basically talks about gimmicks and kayfabe. It's a must read. Basically, it stresses how people in wrestling now don't actual believe it ( calling it a work openly, referring to their wrestling personas as characters openly, heels openly chilling with faces ) and how it's effected the quality of the shows and the money that can be made in wrestling. It also focuses on how wrestling used to be. http://www.jimcornette.com/Commentary.html Also, it sucks that the DVD doesn't have Sting vs Flair BATB 90 .
 
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I laughed at loud when Cornette claimed revenue, fans and attendance are at an all-time low in the history of the business, because that's as accurate a claim as saying the sky is green.

BUT,

"That is what has drained the passion, emotion, and believability out of the performances, and that, in turn, is what keeps the UFC on top of the combat sports world today. It doesn't matter that UFC is real and pro wrestling isn't--it matters that the ticket-purchasing public can tell that the UFC folks are TREATING IT like it's real, and the wrestling folks are not. That difference is the difference between paying to see a sporting event, and watching a comedy or variety show for free."

That is something I agree with. UFC respects itself - the buildup for Lesnar/Mir is the best pro wrestling buildup all year, bar none. UFC does pro wrestling better than pro wrestling does.
 
Did Swagger just say "What you doin' dawg?" :rofl: I think that's what I heard.
 
It's refreshing to see a segment like that on Raw with people that normally don't have the spotlight on them. I like how they're building up some younger talent.
 
For the first time in a long time, I didn't watch even a minute of Raw. I watched the second episode of the top 100 UFC fights on Spike and then watched some baseball. Did I miss anything of importance?
 
The WCW DVD seems to be ignoring where it all went to hell: Starrcade '97, where they botched the Hogan/Sting match that had been building for 18 months and alienated most of the fans in the process. Still looks interesting.

On a side note, I'm really pissed the WWE is turning the screen black-and-white whenever blood is shown on WWE On Demand. Seriously, what the hell? Next up they'll go to Lucasfilm and have them digitally alter-out Chris Benoit and replace him with Jar Jar Binks.
 
[quote name='Scorch']Mark Henry's getting a pop?

what.[/QUOTE]

Piped in, most likely. Most people I saw discussing the show when it was taped said he didn't get much of a reaction. Didn't watch Raw so I don't know for sure. I'll have to check on Dailymotion or whatever later on.
 
supposedly Mark Henry, who's been a monster heel in the wwe for the past 10 years, is now going to be pushed as the top face on raw.
 
[quote name='HovaEscobar']supposedly Mark Henry, who's been a monster heel in the wwe for the past 10 years, is now going to be pushed as the top face on raw.[/QUOTE]

yeah, when i read that last week i couldnt help but groan at the thought of a 6-man tag featuring HHH, cena, and henry squashing whoever the three opponents may be.
 
Funny stuff from the newest Figure 4 Weekly newsletter -
Chyna signed a deal with Virgin Records to work in music videos and also put out an instrumental album at some point. Apparently she's good at the piano, drums and cello. Hopefully they set up some sort of contraption for her where she can play all three at the same time. I'd pay to see that. She also got a new book coming out called Paper Doll, which is hopefully less full of shit than her first book.
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Great Khali ran -- well, walked briskly -- down to the ring to make the save.
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From the 6/1/92 Observer -
Titan Sports' World Bodybuilding Federation championships on 6/13 has been moved from the 12,300 seat Long Beach Convention Center to the 2,700 seat Terrace Theater in Long Beach, which is right down the street from the original location. The reason of course was the threat of a series of martians who had set their sights on the original site to magically cause green ooze to come out of various different bodyparts on the different bodybuilders. Luckily Titan officials mysteriously got advance warning of the martian raid, as they seemingly do on all raids by outside agencies, and are going to trick the inhabitants of our Solar System's fourth planet by moving the site down the street. The weak advance (reportedly less than 600 tickets had been told) was just a figment of the imagination of those who were taking tickets and a new magic spell has been cast on the ticket office to forget how slowly sales have been.
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Here's an interesting thing I'd never read about the Razor Ramon character before -
Scott Hall did debut at the television tapings last week as a heel using the ring name Razor Ramone doing a biker gimmick. Obviously he didn't do well since it wasn't supposed to be a try-out, but his matches won't be airing because they need to do more work on the gimmick.
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The review of Wrestle War '92 also has this funny bit -
There was decent emotion, better camera work than ever, no screw job finishes, no Oz.
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From Matt Hardy's myspace

Basically, in a nutshell, my intestines were slowly tearing through my abdomen.. Which affected my training greatly, my in-ring work, and my physical appearance. My intestines were slowly swelling because they were all outta wack and protruding through my abdominal wall. But I sucked it up and gave everything I had. I haven't been able to do a sit-up in two years. And as I totally expected, The lil "wanna be cool guys" that feel like bad-asses behind a keyboard LOVED to make comments about my weight gain because I was being lazy. Little did they know, or yet probably even care, that I've stayed constantly frustrated that I was dealing with these serious complications. Honestly, I only care about the personal friends and family that I have, that know my true deal.. It's only their opinions I take serious and to heart. Anybody who writes about me, whether good or bad, but especially bad.. I couldn't care less. I just say thanks for keeping me in the news.

The night in Green Bay, when Kofi gave me a cross body from the top rope, my intestines exploded out through my abdominal wall.. And not just in one spot, but in two spots. I had to have it fixed, or face major health problems.. Problems that could have killed me. So as always, I do what's good for me, my career, friends, and loved ones. Hateful, ignorant comments made on the world wide web certainly doesn't bothered me-but sometimes give me a good laugh.. And my world is a world those people will never experience.
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[quote name='diddy310']From Matt Hardy's myspace[/QUOTE]

I understand where Matt is coming from because one of my closest family members died from this happening to him. He didn't know how bad it was until his last night when he went to the hospital complaining about his stomach hurt and they told us that his insides had literally burst out his abs in four places and it was nothing they could do after trying put them back in.
 
Matt Hardy seems to be in love with the people who type behind keyboards.
 
Pro Wrestling Guerrilla presents "Threemendous II - A 6th Anniversary Shindig!" on July 31st, 2009 from the Reseda American Legion Hall in sunny Reseda, CA!

Main Event
PWG Heavyweight Championship Match - Guerrilla Warfare!
(C) Chris Hero vs. Joey Ryan

Non-Title Match
(C) The Young Bucks (Matt & Nick Jackson) vs. Two Skinny Black Guys (El Generico & Human Tornado)

Scott Lost vs. Alex Shelley

"American Dragon" Bryan Danielson vs. Chris Sabin

Davey Richards vs. Roderick Strong

Colt "Boom Boom" Cabana vs. Chuck Taylor

The Cutler Brothers (Brandon & Dustin Cutler) vs. Johnny Goodtime & Brandon Gatson

Jerome "LTP" Robinson vs. Charles Mercury
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Solid night of indy action, $20 tickets, and the venue's got a bar. Sounds like a good time to me.
 
Just found out yesterday that Ric Flair will be appearing at my local Wal-mart tomorrow(Wed.). Anyone know if he's pushing something(book possibly?). I may have to go by & check it out.
 
[quote name='JaytheGamefan']Here's an interesting thing I'd never read about the Razor Ramon character before -
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I'd be interested to see if there's any other info on this bit out there. I have a feeling Meltzer just didn't get what the gimmick was so he referred to it as a "biker," although I suppose there's a small possiblity that they really did overhaul the gimmick after a test run. From everything I remember though it was always supposed to be a Scarface-inspired gimmick (wasn't there something about Vince thinking it was totally original since he hadn't heard of the film?).

Scary shit with Hardy. Glad he's finally taking time off.
 
Scott Hall claimed that Vince had never seen Scarface.

Given the numerous anecdotes about Vince's detachment from pop culture, as well as weekly evidence of what he does consider culturally relevant, him not having seen Scarface is about as surprising as Triple H main eventing a PPV.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edfEHafzlzc

I've heard people call this a terrible incident, but the sad thing is that I can't tell the difference between this or anything else in deathmatch wrestling . I'm not intended to downplay the danger in this, I really don't understand what's going on here.

Okay, here's what happened.

Indy wrestler Nick Gage had to be airlifted to a hospital on Saturday after severing an artery in his arm during Combat Zone Wrestling's annual Tournament of Death. He was sliced from his armpit to his hip when a stunt with a light tube went wrong. He lost an insane amount of blood, started freaking out, and ran to the back. Nobody knew what to do so all the other guys ran out for an impromptu battle royal. The police arrived and they didn't let anyone leave the show until they determined what happened. The show drew more than 200 to a farm in Townsend, DE.
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[quote name='Demolition Man']Technically neo it does since its about something that happened at a wrestling show.[/QUOTE]

The point he is getting at is that crap ISN'T wrestling.

By the way, just checked out the latest Smackdown on Hulu and is it me or is Jeff Hardy the biggest douchebag face they've had in the WWE in years? Like I want to see him get hit by a mack truck.

And it looks like with Ring of Honor pulling out of PPV, Dragon Gate USA has already signed with a company to appear on PPV themselves.
 
[quote name='rickshankshaw']The point he is getting at is that crap ISN'T wrestling.[/QUOTE]

It is. If you don't like it, whatever but it's still wrestling.

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Anywho, I'm listening to Kurt Angle's shoot and where has this levelheaded completely in touch with reality guy been hiding?

- edit Can somebody PM me where I can get audio version of shoot videos? I love listening to them and seems like YouTube is cracking down :cry:
 
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[quote name='neocisco']That garbage doesn't have anything to do with what we watch and discuss in this thread. Just delete the post.[/QUOTE]
I wasn't talking about the matches or the angles of the promotion, I was talking about someone who got injured at a wrestling show and I was legitimately concerned. Like it or not, this is a style of wrestling and although I don't like this style of wrestling I hate the fact that people get hurt doing it. The sad part is that most of those people came in to wrestling at a time where this was popular and they felt that wrestling this way was the only thing to bring them to popularity. This is particularly the story of Necro Butcher. Watching his shoot interview, he never really wanted to do hardcore wrestling, he just thought that he was strong enough to bear it and really wanted to be a wrestler.

Also, for the guy who said " he's trying to make the point that this ISN'T wrestling", no shit. Don't patronize me.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Given the numerous anecdotes about Vince's detachment from pop culture, as well as weekly evidence of what he does consider culturally relevant, him not having seen Scarface is about as surprising as Triple H main eventing a PPV.[/QUOTE]
I'm tellin' ya, Snakes on a Plane gimmick in about two years or so.
 
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Special WrestleMania musical performance by AFI?

I kinda hope someone dies in a CZW match. Stuff is ridiculous beyond belief. It's porn. Let me be quite clear: I have enough of a time with barbed wire in wrestling, or chairs, or tables. I don't pop for flourescent tubes, or weed whackers to the stomach. Hell, I wish TNA would do away with the thumbtacks.

It's like Bret Hart said: before, everybody thought it was real, and nobody got hurt. today, everybody knows its fake, and the injuries are through the roof. (paraphrasing)
 
[quote name='Sporadic']It is. If you don't like it, whatever but it's still wrestling.

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Anywho, I'm listening to Kurt Angle's shoot and where has this levelheaded completely in touch with reality guy been hiding?

- edit Can somebody PM me where I can get audio version of shoot videos? I love listening to them and seems like YouTube is cracking down :cry:[/QUOTE]

If I took a picture of the Mona Lisa and posted it up online saying the picture I took was new art in and of itself, would it be? No. It would be representative of art . That crap posted might be representative of professional wrestling but it is NOT professional wrestling.

And more than that, it's irresponsible to the profession as a whole. Someone dies in CZW and now the rest of the industry has to deal with the bullshit from the media and new regulations in place could kill indy companies like Chikara, PWG, Dragon Gate USA, and Ring of Honor
 
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