MLB (Baseball) Playoffs Thread

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[quote name='Jedi1979']sigh....:cry:[/QUOTE]

same utterly shocked right now......:cry:

i cant believe Heilman let that pitch hang like that....when will the mets ever get a clutch relief pitcher. im sick of these guys blowing games for us. wagner in gm2. Benitez in the 2000 ws. now heilman in the 9th inning. hats off to cards....every move larussa made was a midas touch move.moving molina up one spot was a midas touch move which won them the series. i wonder who will have the touch in the WS...i dont care who wins it now but hats off to the team who does.
 
Are you kiddin' me? What an end to this series. Just tuned in, I figured it would have been over a while ago.

Wow... sorry Mets fans. That was a pathetic at bat by Beltran.
 
yea it was pathetic...but otherwise he was great in the series and the season so cant hate him;)

we couldnt ask for a better situation to be in in the bottom of the ninth, i just wish Beltran swung more then once:roll:
 
Great Game, Endy Chavez should win the Gold Gove just for those 2 spectacular plays.

People are sleeping on the Cards, they may be able to win it all, but Detroit is still the favorite.
 
Willie Randolph needs to go. All the S.O.B. does is talk talk talk. STFU and manage you retard.

In the 8th inning he should of sent Beltran and try and force the action. Absoultly no aggression at all by the mets offense to try and score runs. Hell i was even thinking the mets should of bunted Reyes in the 9th to move the runners over to 2nd and third and give the best opposite way hitter in lo duca a chance to tie the game.
 
[quote name='thingsfallnapart']Willie Randolph needs to go. All the S.O.B. does is talk talk talk. STFU and manage you retard.

In the 8th inning he should of sent Beltran and try and force the action. Absoultly no aggression at all by the mets offense to try and score runs. Hell i was even thinking the mets should of bunted Reyes in the 9th to move the runners over to 2nd and third and give the best opposite way hitter in lo duca a chance to tie the game.[/quote]

Wow..where do I start?

His team was tied for the best record in the league.

Took the team to Game 7 of the NLCS

Oh yeah, he also had 0 pitching all the way.

Go run in front of a train.
 
[quote name='ph33r m3']Wow..where do I start?

His team was tied for the best record in the league.

Took the team to Game 7 of the NLCS

Oh yeah, he also had 0 pitching all the way.

Go run in front of a train.[/QUOTE]

Oh screw you. He had plenty of pitching, as shown in the playoff series. He had guys pitch their hearts out and he couldnt get his offense to produce.

Tell me something, even if Pedro Martinez was in there in game 7 tonight, can you honestly say the game would of gone the mets way?

Injuries are no excuse for the way this turned out, the players who filled in for the injuries performed as well as those who were injured. end of story.
 
[quote name='thingsfallnapart']Oh screw you. He had plenty of pitching, as shown in the playoff series. He had guys pitch their hearts out and he couldnt get his offense to produce.

Tell me something, even if Pedro Martinez was in there in game 7 tonight, can you honestly say the game would of gone the mets way?

Injuries are no excuse for the way this turned out, the players who filled in for the injuries performed as well as those who were injured. end of story.[/quote]

Hmm lemme think Oliver Perez or Pedro Martinez.

Case closed.
 
[quote name='ph33r m3']Hmm lemme think Oliver Perez or Pedro Martinez.

Case closed.[/QUOTE]

Tonight Perez pitched well, and you couldnt of asked for more from pedro or any other pitcher. Mets had the chance in the 8th inning and walked away with their hands in their pants.
 
Willie did a phenomenal job this year,i would be PISSED if they even considered firing him...i just know in the offseason we will be focusing on starters
 
[quote name='thingsfallnapart']Willie Randolph needs to go. All the S.O.B. does is talk talk talk. STFU and manage you retard.

In the 8th inning he should of sent Beltran and try and force the action. Absoultly no aggression at all by the mets offense to try and score runs. Hell i was even thinking the mets should of bunted Reyes in the 9th to move the runners over to 2nd and third and give the best opposite way hitter in lo duca a chance to tie the game.[/QUOTE]


yeah but you cant just blame it all on willie. blame it on our poor overall play. our offense stunk it up like a wet dog in a land fill. we had like what 2 hits outta 40 something chances with RISP. we cant win games or series hitting like that. on top of that our bullpen was god awful in the series. we never had the big pitch or the big hit. they had that. Wright and Co was awful at the plate. what they hit combined...barley .200? i sick to say this as a mets fan but we were disgusting this series. the games we won were ugly, the games we lost were ugly. we cant expect to win like this. nobody came through and the surprise here is that the mets starting pitching wasnt as horrid as everybody thought. it was the other two factors that were horrid that nobody thought would be the downfall of this mets team. i think they got to full of themselves and it hit them hard. we now need to look forward to the offseason for the fight for zito and soriano. we need to put back valentin on the bench and trachsel looks like he is ont eh way out. we have bannister and pelfry coming up next year. milledge also coming up next year. this is just the first step for our team to dominate in the next coming years. as much as im pissed now keep your heads up mets faithful...we will have a better team next year and hopefully these problems fixed.
 
Wow. Crazy game.

I swear, being a Cardinals fan should come with a bottle of Tums. Wainright was fresh out of the bullpen and needed one inning, three outs - and he loads the bases.

Anyway, obviously happy that they won - bring on the Tigers!

And congrats to the Mets and their fans for a great series. I never thought I'd say that in my lifetime, but the bitter rivalry from the 80s seems to be pretty much gone. It was anyone's game/series until the end.
 
Well, congratulations Fox! You have a World Series no one outside of St. Louis and Detroit will watch. I'm a huge baseball fan and I just don't think I can bring myself to give a shit.
 
That's what we said in 2000. Tell Carlos thanks for choking.

More people will watch than you think. There's history there. I'll be tuned in, and I can't stand McCarver.
 
[quote name='javeryh']Well, congratulations Fox! You have a World Series no one outside of St. Louis and Detroit will watch. I'm a huge baseball fan and I just don't think I can bring myself to give a shit.[/quote]Why wouldn't you watch it? You'd watch it if the Dodgers or some other big market team that you weren't a fan of was in it?

I mean, shit, I've watched almost every World Series and the Tigers haven't been involved in 22 years.
 
[quote name='botticus']Why wouldn't you watch it? You'd watch it if the Dodgers or some other big market team that you weren't a fan of was in it?

I mean, shit, I've watched almost every World Series and the Tigers haven't been involved in 22 years.[/quote]

From a baseball standing point, this is a good series for baseball. But from a financial/ratings situation, this is terrible for baseball. Javeryh hit it right on the head. Small market teams are bad for business and ratings for the MLB. Look at last years WS, IRC it was the lowest rated one in a while.

I doubt I'll be watching the WS, but thats also due to going to 3rd shift for the duration of it and having no desire to watch either team play.
 
Saying you won't watch the World Series because you don't like either team doesn't sound like the attitude of a true baseball fan. That being said, I guess I'm not a true baseball fan because I really don't care about either of these teams and I doubt I'll watch much of the Series.
 
[quote name='craven_fiend']From a baseball standing point, this is a good series for baseball. But from a financial/ratings situation, this is terrible for baseball. Javeryh hit it right on the head. Small market teams are bad for business and ratings for the MLB. Look at last years WS, IRC it was the lowest rated one in a while.

I doubt I'll be watching the WS, but thats also due to going to 3rd shift for the duration of it and having no desire to watch either team play.[/QUOTE]

Would it surprise you to know that the Subway Series was the third lowest rated? The Giants/Angels the second lowest? These are the major TV markets in the world. You don't need big cities to be involved, you need good stories, as evidenced by the Red Sox's run in 04.
 
OMG. There is nothing more anti-climatic than ending a Game 7 of the NLCS on your final out, with the bases loaded and your star player batting...with a strikeout looking. He didn't even put the ball in play! Not even a weak hack.

All the emotions and adrenaline that led up to that final at bat...I'm still stunned in disbelief.
 
[quote name='CocheseUGA']Would it surprise you to know that the Subway Series was the third lowest rated? The Giants/Angels the second lowest? These are the major TV markets in the world. You don't need big cities to be involved, you need good stories, as evidenced by the Red Sox's run in 04.[/quote]


The Subway Series was rightfully one of the lowest. Had it been either team and not both, it would've been higher rated. And a lot of fans are East coast biased is why the Giants/Angels series was low. And they don't have the biggest markets either. And Barry Bonds first WS was not a good enough story for me to watch it.

Boston has a big market, even without the story, they'd have had a decent draw for the WS.

This years WS is between 2 teams that have had losing records since the AS break and one that barely squeeked into the playoffs. No discredit to either team, they made it to the big time this year.

I am a baseball fan, as evident by watching many of the games, without the Red Sox or Reds making the postseason. And being a Reds fan, I hope the Cards lose. And not really caring about the Tigers, I have no desire to watch this WS, even if I wasn't going to be on 3rd shift for the next month.
 
Yeah, I guess I don't know how the ratings for the WS will be since I'm from the Detroit area. So, I'm REALLY looking forward to this. I think it should be some good baseball though. I even watched the Mets/St.Louis last night, and I rarely watch other games that don't involve the Tigers.

I cannot wait for tomorrow. Hopefully it does not rain, weather has been horrible here lately.

Verlander gets the nod for GAME 1. Zumaya and Casey are both healthy too.
 
Hmm... Verlander, Rogers, Robertson, and Bonderman. I can deal with that.

Frankly, I would be hard-pressed to rank them 1-4, so any order works for me.
 
[quote name='ph33r m3']Great Game, Endy Chavez should win the Gold Gove just for those 2 spectacular plays.

People are sleeping on the Cards, they may be able to win it all, but Detroit is still the favorite.[/QUOTE]


Yep, the Cards didn't fair to well when they tangled with the AL central earlier this year, could make for a short series. It just depends on which Tigers team shows up.
 
[quote name='botticus']Hmm... Verlander, Rogers, Robertson, and Bonderman. I can deal with that.

Frankly, I would be hard-pressed to rank them 1-4, so any order works for me.[/QUOTE]

with that rotation robertson is the only guy that is not a number 1. thats just my opinion. they will probably go with robertson gm1 though....because the matchup will be either against reyes or marquis. I say Tigers in a sweep. ESPN and all the other analysts are too nice in giving the cards a gm or 2. the only reason is because the cards offense struggled against a mets subpar pitching. now they face an dominating staff of the Tigers. i cant see anyway the cards even touching the tigers.....and with suppan and carp only being able to pitch 1 game, and suppan probably not till game 5 hurts them big time. but hats off to the cards for the series win. i have to give them alot of respect to battle us and win.

as for the WS, i will admit it as the mets fan i am. i wont be watching the series because my team is not in it and it doesnt concern me anymore. why should i care if my team is not in it. good luck to both teams and congrats to who wins. well back to football and the English Premier League. Ill still post in here...now head on to the offseason for zito and soriano.....hopefully.
 
[quote name='craven_fiend']The Subway Series was rightfully one of the lowest. Had it been either team and not both, it would've been higher rated. And a lot of fans are East coast biased is why the Giants/Angels series was low. And they don't have the biggest markets either. And Barry Bonds first WS was not a good enough story for me to watch it.

Boston has a big market, even without the story, they'd have had a decent draw for the WS.

This years WS is between 2 teams that have had losing records since the AS break and one that barely squeeked into the playoffs. No discredit to either team, they made it to the big time this year.

I am a baseball fan, as evident by watching many of the games, without the Red Sox or Reds making the postseason. And being a Reds fan, I hope the Cards lose. And not really caring about the Tigers, I have no desire to watch this WS, even if I wasn't going to be on 3rd shift for the next month.[/quote]

Exactly what I was going to post. One NY team playing in the WS would draw big ratings but when both are playing only the people in the area care - same thing with an all-California WS. I think the ratings will be bad because they are both middle-market teams although St. Louis is definitely a baseball town. The Tigers are at best the third most loved team in Detroit (and probably 4th if the Lions haven't been so bad for the last 10 years) so I'm not sure anyone there will really care.

I'll probably end up watching since I am a baseball fan but I was too involved this year and last night's loss really soured me on the whole thing. I couldn't read the paper or watch SportsCenter this morning either. I'm getting pissed just typing this up. First and second and no outs - put Glavine in to bunt them into scoring position!!! Floyd just hadn't played enough to be ready. Then it becomes a completely different game with Reyes up and not wanting to throw a wild pitch with that awesome curve ball. Jesus Christ.
 
[quote name='javeryh']Exactly what I was going to post. One NY team playing in the WS would draw big ratings but when both are playing only the people in the area care - same thing with an all-California WS. I think the ratings will be bad because they are both middle-market teams although St. Louis is definitely a baseball town. The Tigers are at best the third most loved team in Detroit (and probably 4th if the Lions haven't been so bad for the last 10 years) so I'm not sure anyone there will really care.

I'll probably end up watching since I am a baseball fan but I was too involved this year and last night's loss really soured me on the whole thing. I couldn't read the paper or watch SportsCenter this morning either. I'm getting pissed just typing this up. First and second and no outs - put Glavine in to bunt them into scoring position!!! Floyd just hadn't played enough to be ready. Then it becomes a completely different game with Reyes up and not wanting to throw a wild pitch with that awesome curve ball. Jesus Christ.[/QUOTE]

i feel you. im wearing my two mets bracelets and looking at them gets me sad everytime i look at them. i dont even want to read the Times or the Post and i get both. again i cant watch the series because it doesnt concern me. i still love baseball to the fullest but to the mets go out as they did still saddends me.
 
[quote name='javeryh']Well, congratulations Fox! You have a World Series no one outside of St. Louis and Detroit will watch. I'm a huge baseball fan and I just don't think I can bring myself to give a shit.[/quote]

While this is true... I will be watching it since the Cards have a AAA team here... Memphis Redbirds... but if they didn't I probably wouldn't watch
 
[quote name='WinnieThePujols']Cardinals have the fourth-highest fan base in the baseball world. They're hardly the small market team some of you are making them out to be.[/quote]

Cubs? Mets? Braves? Red Sox? Dodgers? Yankees?

They are in the top 10, but 4th highest?

Where is this site that says that, just curious.
 
[quote name='craven_fiend']Cubs? Mets? Braves? Red Sox? Dodgers? Yankees?

They are in the top 10, but 4th highest?

Where is this site that says that, just curious.[/QUOTE]


well here is a diagram of the total attendence at each stadium from 01-06

http://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/2000-03attendance.htm

here is the ESPN attendance report for this year 2006

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/attendance

i dont know how much they can tell you about fanbase but the numbers are their stadium wise.
 
[quote name='thamaster24']Why do I not want Florida to be at the bottom of this list?[/QUOTE]

yeah i wouldnt want them there either but with Jeffery Loira not being able to a get stadium done...i think he will try and move the team and actually is getting happy that the fans are showing him no love. those fans will regret not showing up to the park soon. they are the best young team besides the tigers.
 
[quote name='integralsmatic']well here is a diagram of the total attendence at each stadium from 01-06

http://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/2000-03attendance.htm

here is the ESPN attendance report for this year 2006

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/attendance

i dont know how much they can tell you about fanbase but the numbers are their stadium wise.[/quote]

Attendance isn't the best measure of a teams fanbase. It is useful, but its is far from judging where a team sits. Merchandise is the main measurement.
 
[quote name='greendj27']One game does not win a series.[/quote]

True but it can only make the Cards more confident, EVERYONE was doubting them
 
[quote name='thamaster24']Hmmmm, this game alter anyones opinion?[/quote]This exact game is why I said Tigers in 5 rather than Tigers in 4. A week off was great to get Zumaya and Casey healthy, but it's horrible for a team that hasn't played a real game in 7 days to go up against one that's still running on adrenaline.

As far as confidence... yeah... everyone doubted the Tigers against the Yankees, and they lost the first game as expected. And still managed to win the next 3.
 
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