MMA (Mixed Martial Arts) Thread: UFC/Strikeforce

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American Psycho!!! Woooooo! Haha, nice to see Bonnar get a win. Not the most skilled fighter by a long shot, but dude always gives 100%. I can't believe Soszynski let that knee get through though.
 
Damn! Chris Lytle just impressed the hell out of me. Withstanding the choke in the first round, then straight up EMBARASSING Matt Brown in the 2nd round! Mounted triangle with crucifix? When the hell do you ever see that? lol. He gave him an "I'm going to stick my ass in your face, punch you several times, and then break your arm" beating. I hope Matt Brown has a short memory, haha.
 
[quote name='Matt Young']Argh... one night when I'm actually home and want to see the show, and MMA-TV on Sopcast doesn't work. That sucks.[/QUOTE]

??yes it does
 
Leben/Akiyama fight of the night. No doubt! Considering the Lesnar/Carwin fight is unlikely to get out of the 1st round, I don't see any way it tops the Leben fight. Even though Leben was doing more damage, I was afraid Akiyama was going to steal a lay & pray win in the 3rd round. But Chris put an end to that shit real quick! Awesome fight!
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Leben/Akiyama fight of the night. No doubt! Considering the Lesnar/Carwin fight is unlikely to get out of the 1st round, I don't see any way it tops the Leben fight. Even though Leben was doing more damage, I was afraid Akiyama was going to steal a lay & pray win in the 3rd round. But Chris put an end to that shit real quick! Awesome fight![/QUOTE]

Akiyama getting another gay win was my fear. Luckily Leben is a psycho and was somehow able to beat the shit out of him on the ground and then manage to sink in a sub.

If you go back and look at Leben from the first TUF and look at Leben now, it's crazy how much he's improved.

Hopefully Leben gets what he wants because Wandy/Leben would be incredible.
 
Wow -- Brock sounds like a completely changed man. This disease seems to have really impacted him. He even touched gloves at the start of round 2. I wonder what he would've done and how he would've acted if he had lost.
 
i dont know if ive ever been so pissed at myself as i am for not buying this card. whatta dumbass.
i missed a fucking epic card.
 
[quote name='$hady']Yea if it was Lesnar on top it woulda been called. He can take a beating though.[/QUOTE]

C'mon man...

Lesnar NEVER stopped defending himself that entire time. He was working to get Carwin off which is why the ref didn't stop it. He didn't just sit there covered up taking shots non-stop, not doing anything to improve.
 
[quote name='Pure Apathy']Wow that was the best two fights I've seen back to back in a long time.[/QUOTE]

The entire card was excellent.
 
Yeah, as a non-Lesnar fan, I gotta say, Brock earned my respect tonight...both as a fighter and as a human being. It's really funny that the two things that were called into question became HUGE factors in the fight: 1. Brock's chin, and 2. Carwin's conditioning. Looks like Brock's chin won out. He showed a lot of heart to come back from that kind of punishment.

I think Lesnar sent a message by winning via submission as well. Who saw that coming? Also, it was nice to see him be a gracious winner for once as well. My biggest issue with Brock was always him being a poor ambassador for the sport in one of the most prominent positions. Maybe that illness was exactly what he needed. Add this fight to Fedor's loss, and Brock Lesnar has come a long way in one week.
 
[quote name='Pure Apathy']Yes it was, but I really enjoyed the last two fights.[/QUOTE]

The last two were definite FOTY candidates.

Overall, that was one of the best fight cards from top to bottom I've ever seen. Even the prelims were good.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Yeah, as a non-Lesnar fan, I gotta say, Brock earned my respect tonight...both as a fighter and as a human being. It's really funny that the two things that were called into question became HUGE factors in the fight: 1. Brock's chin, and 2. Carwin's conditioning. Looks like Brock's chin won out. He showed a lot of heart to come back from that kind of punishment.

I think Lesnar sent a message by winning via submission as well. Who saw that coming? Also, it was nice to see him be a gracious winner for once as well. My biggest issue with Brock was always him being a poor ambassador for the sport in one of the most prominent positions. Maybe that illness was exactly what he needed. Add this fight to Fedor's loss, and Brock Lesnar has come a long way in one week.[/QUOTE]


Completely agree with u!I was a Lesnar hater, because of his antics....But after tonight he gets all my respect and admiration!He is the champ!It would be an uphill battle to take him away from his belt!!!
 
Man Lesnar surprised the HELL out of me tonight with his chin, heart, and submission skills. HE has REALLY improved since his last fight. A year ago I don't think he could have won that fight, let alone by submission. Carwin really gassed out bad in the first round, he needed to take his time more and rest some, lay on top of Lesnar and put his weight on him. I'm just glad Lesnar didn't act like an asshole tonight, if he is cool like that I won't really hate him anymore ( I won't root for him but I won't hate his ass either).

Also possibly one of the best overall cards I've ever seen, even going all the way back to Pride events, ect. Great show.
 
Great defense by Brock, totally exposed Carwin.

Brock has shown himself to be a true champ, coming back after the Mir loss. Now we'll see if Carwin was ever champ material, if he comes back from a loss like Brock did.
 
[quote name='BigPopov']Great defense by Brock, totally exposed Carwin.

Brock has shown himself to be a true champ, coming back after the Mir loss. Now we'll see if Carwin was ever champ material, if he comes back from a loss like Brock did.[/QUOTE]

Why the blatant hate for Carwin? He didn't fight a bad fight. He just made a mistake. He had Brock hurt and he tried to put him away. Brock weathered the storm and got him to gas. As Rogan pointed out at the end of the show, it's just a learning experience. Anybody who thinks Carwin COULDN'T beat Brock after that fight wasn't paying attention. Carwin obviously has the tools. He just needs to learn how to make better use of them. The only thing that worries me with Carwin is his age.
 
Carwin had as good a chance at beating Brock as anyone is gonna get for awhile, but he missed it. Watched that fight again on DVR right away and it was clear that Brock was defending well, but he took some HUGE shots. If Carwin could have controlled one of Brock's arms during that 1st round it would have been all over. But that's a pretty big IF. All around great card tonight!
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Why the blatant hate for Carwin? He didn't fight a bad fight. He just made a mistake. He had Brock hurt and he tried to put him away. Brock weathered the storm and got him to gas.[/QUOTE]

That's being exposed dude. Carwin's got power but he's never made it out of the first round. His conditioning was exposed for what it is...non-existent.
 
[quote name='SEH']That's being exposed dude. Carwin's got power but he's never made it out of the first round. His conditioning was exposed for what it is...non-existent.[/QUOTE]

I'd call that being untested more than being "exposed". Since Brock got the shit rocked out of him in the first round, are we going to say that his chin got "exposed"? You act like it's something he can't improve on. Hell, under the circumstances, it's not necessarily a sign that he has "no cardio". Lots of fighters have smelled the blood, tried to finish a fight, and end up gassing. It's a mistake.

I'm not even a Carwin fan, but it's ignorant to think another fight between the two couldn't go the completely opposite direction. If anything, Brock showed that he's not indestructible. If Velasquez was paying attention, he knows to hit Brock on the chin and defend the shot. Since he's not as strong as Carwin, I don't know how successful he'll be in doing that, but someone will beat Brock eventually. It's the nature of the sport. If not Cain, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Carwin win a rematch. At least now, Carwin knows what to work on.
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Why the blatant hate for Carwin? He didn't fight a bad fight. He just made a mistake. He had Brock hurt and he tried to put him away. Brock weathered the storm and got him to gas. As Rogan pointed out at the end of the show, it's just a learning experience. Anybody who thinks Carwin COULDN'T beat Brock after that fight wasn't paying attention. Carwin obviously has the tools. He just needs to learn how to make better use of them. The only thing that worries me with Carwin is his age.[/QUOTE]

Carwin didn't just "make a mistake," he was totally outclassed. He went a whole 2 or 3 minutes before turning into a slug.

Fighters with a killer bomb are a dime a dozen. My comment about being a true champion rests in Carwin's ability to rebound after this fight. The greats would get defeated, train thier asses off and come back, mistakes/shortcoming fixed and show the world it was a fluke. IMO the true test of being a real champ comes when you're defeated and exposed.
 
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