My friend overdosed last night.

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[quote name='LiFTiR']Actually it is true, I know for a fact since I know the poster irl.

I agree hanging around people who are using is no way to stay clean, but the original poster for lack of a better term, is a "fucking wackjob" and has a viewpoint and state-of-mind much different then the average person so I long ago stopped trying to apply the concept that "what is true with most people should be true with him."

Attempting to defend use of drugs IS addressing "freedom, civil rights etc.." Just because you don't like it and thinks its morally wrong doesn't mean it shouldn't be a protected right. For example free speech allows the KKK to hold rallies and parades in public areas. Most people despise them and wish they weren't allowed, however they are. Analogize that to the use of drugs and personal rights.

No drug is inherently worse then any other drug so to say some are ok and some aren't is hypocritical. All drugs have the potential to do damage if used improperly. And you do know if you use a legal drug in a manner other then specified it then becomes illegal right? There goes you're theory on good legal drugs.


And an overall general statement to the people replying to this thread:

All you who say "ah fuck her shes a junkie/slit your wrists/fuck u u do drugs/etc.." are willfully ignorant and are in need of a strong education in drug addiction. Go google it and read a few papers and educate yourselves so you won't sound so moronic next time you try to speak to the subject. For that matter, do this next time you try to speak to any subject you know little of.. prefabably before you post/speak.

Dima: You def. over-hyped this thread, most the people in this forum sound like retards. The cartoon was alright.[/quote]
I overhyped it? I mean I told you what was up... I got a bunch of replies.. mostly from retards who have no first hand experience with heroin use and/or users. I never said the comic was good... I just said I was amazed that someone actually dedicated time to making one... Thanks for your mental diagnosis btw, wasn't too far off base. :rofl:
 
[quote name='PhrostByte']I got a bunch of replies.. mostly from retards who have no first hand experience with heroin use and/or users. [/QUOTE]

I.E.:

In order to call me a retard for snorting heroin, ya gotta snort heroin first, thereby becoming a retard yourself and stooping to my abysmally low level.

Because I'm fly like that.
 
[quote name='Greetard']I.E.:

In order to call me a retard for snorting heroin, ya gotta snort heroin first, thereby becoming a retard yourself and stooping to my abysmally low level.

Because I'm fly like that.[/quote]

I think the argument is more along the lines of "don't knock it till you've tried it".
 
[quote name='SneakyPenguin']I think the argument is more along the lines of "don't knock it till you've tried it".[/quote]

Close.. but I'm really not encouraging everyone try heroin just to say they have...

My retard comment was more along the line of, "don't run your mouth when you're talking about something that you know nothing about." I've been getting a lot of that... and while I've already mentionted that it was to be expected, it's still unnecessary and annoying.
 
I like how the OP got "his dawgs" in here to defend him.

[quote name='SneakyPenguin']I think the argument is more along the lines of "don't knock it till you've tried it".[/QUOTE]
Does that go for things like AIDS, suicide bombing, cocaine, etc too?
 
[quote name='Liquid 2']Does that go for things like AIDS, suicide bombing, cocaine, etc too?[/quote]

Hey, suicide bombing is good times. Grab some beers, couple of pounds of plastiqe, and have a blast.

God that was a horrible pun.
 
[quote name='SneakyPenguin']Hey, suicide bombing is good times. Grab some beers, couple of pounds of plastiqe, and have a blast.

God that was a horrible pun.[/QUOTE]
:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Funniest thing I've heard all week. :lol:
 
Nice, really nice pun! LMAO b/c that is my sense of humor.

I'll throw the OP some support and agree that when it comes to casual experimentaiton with some drugs...feed your head. That having been said, I would never ever touch anything you can OD on, no coke, no heroine, no needles, no snorting. You should still know you're taking a risk with even the unODable drugs, even if it is only risks involved with breaking the law.

By far the safer thing to do is never try any drugs, never have unprotected sex, and never break any law ever.
 
[quote name='Liquid 2']I like how the OP got "his dawgs" in here to defend him.

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yeah, what the fuck. shit was pretty corny. "yo go google sum shit bout druqks befr4 u post n shit" :lol:
 
[quote name='Apossum']yeah, what the fuck. shit was pretty corny. "yo go google sum shit bout druqks befr4 u post n shit" :lol:[/quote]

I didn't ask anyone to post anything on this site.. all I did was tell a few of my friends because I thought it was worth talking about. :lol:
 
actually i never defended him if you bothered to read my post. the only things i defended against was the ignorance and stupidity going around in this topic. He is a dumbass in certain situations, as ive told him on many occassions. However thusfar he has exhibited more intellegence and insight then any other here. Well I guess I have to go back on what I just said since I did just defend him.. but in any case - Apossum, how is educating yourself on a topic before speaking about it is corny? I call that rational, logical thinking. I don't know why I'm bothering trying to explain this to the likes of someone who thinks being informed is corny.. but they did send a dog into space so I guess anything is possible with lower lifeforms/intellects. I only hope that you and the like-minded are young immature kids and have not yet developed a stable sense of the world around you.

like i said before.. willfully ignorant. I guess for some people ignorance truly is bliss.
 
[quote name='Liquid 2']I like how the OP got "his dawgs" in here to defend him.


Does that go for things like AIDS, suicide bombing, cocaine, etc too?[/quote]

Well suicide bombing affects others directly so no, cocaine sure why not, aids if your suicidal sure. Actually there are people called bug-catchers in big cities who deliberately catch HIV so that they can receieve all the financial and housing benefits the government will give them. So if you're thinking along those lines.. The point im trying to illustrate is that its a whole-wide world out there beyond your small constraints of what is right and wrong and what is and is not acceptable, what life is.
 
[quote name='LiFTiR']Well suicide bombing affects others directly so no, cocaine sure why not, aids if your suicidal sure. Actually there are people called bug-catchers in big cities who deliberately catch HIV so that they can receieve all the financial and housing benefits the government will give them. So if you're thinking along those lines.. The point im trying to illustrate is that its a whole-wide world out there beyond your small constraints of what is right and wrong and what is and is not acceptable, what life is.[/quote]

You saying drugs don't affect others directly? The OP stated that he drove recklessly to get the OD'd girl to the hospital. That had the potential to affect someone else very much.
If someone wants to sit at home and drug up - sure whatever , do whatever you want. The second you leave your house in that state, thats affecting someone else.
Of course, an argument could be made that staying inside affects others as well ( the whole drug chain, lost wages, family issues, etc)...
 
[quote name='LiFTiR']
like i said before.. willfully ignorant. I guess for some people ignorance truly is bliss.[/QUOTE]

And heroin is enlightenment, right? Willful enlightenment- with gumdrops and ponies.
 
Theres a difference between going into a crowd and blowing up a bomb and using drugs. THe first is malicious behavior with intent to harm others. Using drugs is neglectful of others but not done with the intent of harming others. Every action has an effect on other people (practically) so theres no use in trying to argue in this track.
 
[quote name='Greetard']And heroin is enlightenment, right? Willful enlightenment- with gumdrops and ponies.[/quote]
Who said that? Your confusing things. I am simply saying its worth knowing what one is talking about before trying to force your opinion on others. Misinformation is alot of the reason you all have such an ignorant view... you think you know all you need to on the subject and everyone else trying to say otherwise is a junkie drug addict. If you go back in my 3-4 posts you can see i never said drugs were enlightenmnet nor anyone else. And I also haven't even said drugs were a good thing.

I don't even understand how you came to the conclusion that I was implying "heroin is enlightenment".. seems you have a preoccupation with.. ah nevermind youll just respond like a little kid with name-calling and mud-slinging.
 
[quote name='LiFTiR']
Attempting to defend use of drugs IS addressing "freedom, civil rights etc.." Just because you don't like it and thinks its morally wrong doesn't mean it shouldn't be a protected right. For example free speech allows the KKK to hold rallies and parades in public areas. Most people despise them and wish they weren't allowed, however they are. Analogize that to the use of drugs and personal rights.

No drug is inherently worse then any other drug so to say some are ok and some aren't is hypocritical.[/QUOTE]
EEEERRRGGG! Wrong.

Some drugs have benefits that far outway the risks involved with taking them. And I'm not talkin' bout "they make you feel good". Also, those other drugs aren't physically addictive to the extent that it drives some people to do crazy shit for money to buy them. I haven't seen a guy looking for his next Tums fix.
 
[quote name='Greetard']And heroin is enlightenment, right? Willful enlightenment- with gumdrops and ponies.[/quote]

Do you have any experience with drug addiction? Or perhaps a relative or close friend that had been addicted?

I'm not trying to be an asshole here, I honestly want to know your experience on the subject.
 
[quote name='Lobsterjohnson']Do you have any experience with drug addiction? Or perhaps a relative or close friend that had been addicted?

I'm not trying to be an asshole here, I honestly want to know your experience on the subject.[/QUOTE]

I've known people who snort coke, but stay far away from them now. No real experience other than that, if you can even call that experience.

I just find it laughable that some douchebag and his friend are trying to defend his heroin use with delusions of responsibility and self-control, and that they went as far as to employ the experience/ignorance argument against something that's been drilled into our heads since childhood as dangerous.
 
[quote name='PhrostByte']but there's nothing I can really do except support her and be a good friend.[/quote]Yup. Supporting a junkie while she's shooting up is being a very good friend. Are you that pathetic? You help the kid get off the drugs. You don't sit around telling each other you're both okay and good people while destroying your lives because you don't have the testicular fortitude to draw a line in in the sand, this is good for us but waaah it's tough! vs this feels good but is bad for us. Get a freakin spine.

[quote name='PhrostByte']I'm no longer going to respond to these comments.[/quote]I took that off of page one. You've continued to respond. Your word means nothing. Not a big surprize.

[quote name='PhrostByte']The girl is not an idiot. She's a normal person who made a bad choice. Everyone makes bad choices. You're not different, nor am I.[/quote]I certainly am. Making a bad choice is one thing, you coward. Continuing to make the same decision repeatedly is something else.

But, there is something that differs between us. I understand what she's going through. She's obviously depressed and using drugs to cope. She's not evil, and she's not stupid. She has a problem.
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Yeah, her problem is that she doesn't have anyone around her that loves her enough to tell her to stop NOW. That she means something in this world. That she was created for a reason and that her life is precious. It isn't something to be pissed away, it's to be cherished.

But again, it does't sound like the people she's hanging out with really do cherish her. Otherwise they'd help her stop, even when it's difficult and she screams and claws and says she hates you and needs the drug. She doesn't need the drug. She needs a real freakin' friend.


[quote name='PhrostByte']I figured that by sharing on the off-topic forum, I might get some interesting responses.[/quote]And that you have. I don't see much more coming out of this thread that hasn't already been covered. You wanna debate about drugs, take it up in the VS forum. But I'm closing this for now.
 
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