Name a Crappy Movie that Everyone Loves
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[quote name='SithFran']Gone with the wind.[/QUOTE]
While we're still bashing the oldies, let me add The Wizard of Oz to the list. It isn't that the movie was absolutely terrible, but I hate hearing about it every single time I mention to someone I live in Kansas.
While we're still bashing the oldies, let me add The Wizard of Oz to the list. It isn't that the movie was absolutely terrible, but I hate hearing about it every single time I mention to someone I live in Kansas.
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I think some people are missing the point.
Nobody loves Alien vs. Predator or Envy.
And if they do...god save their soul.
Nobody loves Alien vs. Predator or Envy.
And if they do...god save their soul.
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The Shawshank Redemption
The Silence of the Lambs
The Silence of the Lambs
[quote name='darkmere']clerks
i watched it about a month ago for the first time since being in film school (ironically the very school from which smith dropped out 12 years ago) and also since seeing smith give one of his famous q&a talks here in vancouver back in july. i've seen the movie several times before that and loved it.
here's what sucks about it:
the acting: pretty much every actor in the film was terrible. the lines are delievered so stiff it sounds like a middle school play rehearsal. there were no beats given during or between lines. it's pretty sad when jay mewes is your best actor.
the cinematography: the camera just sits there. no pans, no tilts, no dollies. nothing but subpar setups. it's boring to watch. it's all about dialogue, which wouldn't be a bad thing if the actors could convincingly deliever it.
the editing: it's bad enough the cinematography is elementary, but the editing could have saved it...could have. shots last too long. how long can you sit on a medium 2 shot before you cut to another angle? not as long as they do. a couple of over the shoulder and reverse angles would be nice, but i'm assuming most of the movie was done in one take, leaving the editor with no choices. it's a shame...it could have been a better movie.
it's not that i hate smith, he's good with dialogue, and believe me, he's a great story teller. just see him give one of his q&a's and you'll laugh your ass off. he readily admits he doesn't know how to make shots interesting, usually just setting up the camera and putting the actors in front of it. i'd love this movie again if it just had decent actors, some camera movement, and good editing to tie it all together.[/QUOTE]
They spent about $17.50 total to make Clerks. What the hell did you expect? Seriously, those guys in the movie weren't even actors, they were Kevin Smith's friends. That quick stop wasn't a studio set...it was the place he worked during the day.
Mallrats was the first Smith film with any actual production values.
i watched it about a month ago for the first time since being in film school (ironically the very school from which smith dropped out 12 years ago) and also since seeing smith give one of his famous q&a talks here in vancouver back in july. i've seen the movie several times before that and loved it.
here's what sucks about it:
the acting: pretty much every actor in the film was terrible. the lines are delievered so stiff it sounds like a middle school play rehearsal. there were no beats given during or between lines. it's pretty sad when jay mewes is your best actor.
the cinematography: the camera just sits there. no pans, no tilts, no dollies. nothing but subpar setups. it's boring to watch. it's all about dialogue, which wouldn't be a bad thing if the actors could convincingly deliever it.
the editing: it's bad enough the cinematography is elementary, but the editing could have saved it...could have. shots last too long. how long can you sit on a medium 2 shot before you cut to another angle? not as long as they do. a couple of over the shoulder and reverse angles would be nice, but i'm assuming most of the movie was done in one take, leaving the editor with no choices. it's a shame...it could have been a better movie.
it's not that i hate smith, he's good with dialogue, and believe me, he's a great story teller. just see him give one of his q&a's and you'll laugh your ass off. he readily admits he doesn't know how to make shots interesting, usually just setting up the camera and putting the actors in front of it. i'd love this movie again if it just had decent actors, some camera movement, and good editing to tie it all together.[/QUOTE]
They spent about $17.50 total to make Clerks. What the hell did you expect? Seriously, those guys in the movie weren't even actors, they were Kevin Smith's friends. That quick stop wasn't a studio set...it was the place he worked during the day.
Mallrats was the first Smith film with any actual production values.
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[quote name='Machikunas']Here's the thing, Zion. There are a few references to mormon culture in the movie, but to say that you can't see how the movie could be funny without knowing those references.... well, that's borderline retarded.
There is a fair amount of fake swearing, but that makes fun of mormons just as much as almost any predominantly religious area. People outside of Idaho say "gosh", "flippin'", and "heck. It's not funny because it's mormon and you know the reference. It's funny because it's fake swearing.
The only other mormon references that I noticed were the Rick's College t-shirt.... not funny... literally, the ONLY joke that is kind of funny, and you need to understand the Mormon reference for, is when the principal is upset with Pedro and mentions Pedro might be from Juarez. That is literally, the ONLY joke, that you is funny because of it's mormon reference. All the rest are funny for non-mormon specific reasons.
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Actually I'm rather impressed, perhaps a better interpretation of my post would have been: To zion the movie is only funny because they are moron. As much as I would like I don't speak for the world you know.
There is a fair amount of fake swearing, but that makes fun of mormons just as much as almost any predominantly religious area. People outside of Idaho say "gosh", "flippin'", and "heck. It's not funny because it's mormon and you know the reference. It's funny because it's fake swearing.
The only other mormon references that I noticed were the Rick's College t-shirt.... not funny... literally, the ONLY joke that is kind of funny, and you need to understand the Mormon reference for, is when the principal is upset with Pedro and mentions Pedro might be from Juarez. That is literally, the ONLY joke, that you is funny because of it's mormon reference. All the rest are funny for non-mormon specific reasons.
Do I still get a dunce cap
er?[/QUOTE] Actually I'm rather impressed, perhaps a better interpretation of my post would have been: To zion the movie is only funny because they are moron. As much as I would like I don't speak for the world you know.
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[quote name='alongx']They spent about $17.50 total to make Clerks. What the hell did you expect? Seriously, those guys in the movie weren't even actors, they were Kevin Smith's friends. That quick stop wasn't a studio set...it was the place he worked during the day.
Mallrats was the first Smith film with any actual production values.[/QUOTE]
studios do not a good movie make. and no where in my complaints did i mention the studio vs location...it was one of the things that actually worked for clerks. i know it was a low budget, but i've seen good low budget. and i've seen people that aren't even actors act better. my point is the movie is overrated...kinda the point of this thread. if you don't agree, then that's also the point of the thread...crappy movies that everyone loves.
Mallrats was the first Smith film with any actual production values.[/QUOTE]
studios do not a good movie make. and no where in my complaints did i mention the studio vs location...it was one of the things that actually worked for clerks. i know it was a low budget, but i've seen good low budget. and i've seen people that aren't even actors act better. my point is the movie is overrated...kinda the point of this thread. if you don't agree, then that's also the point of the thread...crappy movies that everyone loves.
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[quote name='triforcer']really?! i like both those movies, what did you hate about them?[/QUOTE]
Shawshank just never seemed like anything special to me, and it's on all theing time.
Silence ... again, nothing special. And I can't stand Jodie Foster.
Shawshank just never seemed like anything special to me, and it's on all the
ing time.Silence ... again, nothing special. And I can't stand Jodie Foster.
[quote name='alongx']I nominate Napoleon Dynamite and raise you with a few: The Mummy (and any sequel), Dodgeball, Anchorman, and There's Something About Mary[/QUOTE]
I second Napoleon Dynamite and counter with the Jay and Silent Bob movies. There is nothing funny, witty, or original about that series.
I second Napoleon Dynamite and counter with the Jay and Silent Bob movies. There is nothing funny, witty, or original about that series.
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I cant stand 80s brat pack movies, they are all garbage to me, nothing special at all
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LOTR = boring caught on film
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I can't say they're crappy, but Blow, Casino, Goodfellas, Scarface etc. are all horribly overrated.
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[quote name='triforcer']have to agreee with napoleon dynamite. that deserves to be on top of the list as the most overrated movie in the world. and you know what i hate, it's when people say "o, you just didn't get it." i got the movie and it was hardly funny and a poor excuse for a movie.
matrix revolution was also pretty bad, reloaded was decent, but not as memorable or fun to watch as the first.
some people mentioned the american pie movies and thinking about it i have to agree that they really don't stand repeat viewings at all. it's fun the first time you watch it, but after that you realize that they're a bunch of idiots.
and while i don't really hate 2001, i find that overrated also.[/QUOTE]
I got to stand up for Nap Dym. I know, I know, I shouldn't beat a dead horse and I can't change your opinon about the dang film, but, still I have to stick up for Nap.
Most movies about teenagers are about sex. I can't think of more than a handful of movies about teenagers that do not involve trying to get laid. A lot of people love the film because Nap. Dym. is about the awkwardness of the teen years. It's about all those kids who were not the Jock, the brain, the beauty, the most popular at their schools. It's charm for me lies in its lack of grace; how it stumbles clumsily along as a film like some akward kid running to fifth period; how it's plot is as sketchy as the doodles on some geeky kid's pee-chee folder; how sometimes little things make our day, make us smile, or even alter one's way of thinking.
To me, it's a nod to that kid that sat in back, day-dreaming about being bigger than he/she is allowed to be. It's about turning around to look at that kid that sits at the back and seeing him/her as something more than an extra in everybody else's life.
To those who hate Nap. Dym. name your fav. funny movies about the teen years. After all, we aren't comparing this movie to Apocalypse Now, On the Waterfront, or even Batman. I wan't to know, what other comparable movie trumps Nap?
matrix revolution was also pretty bad, reloaded was decent, but not as memorable or fun to watch as the first.
some people mentioned the american pie movies and thinking about it i have to agree that they really don't stand repeat viewings at all. it's fun the first time you watch it, but after that you realize that they're a bunch of idiots.
and while i don't really hate 2001, i find that overrated also.[/QUOTE]
I got to stand up for Nap Dym. I know, I know, I shouldn't beat a dead horse and I can't change your opinon about the dang film, but, still I have to stick up for Nap.
Most movies about teenagers are about sex. I can't think of more than a handful of movies about teenagers that do not involve trying to get laid. A lot of people love the film because Nap. Dym. is about the awkwardness of the teen years. It's about all those kids who were not the Jock, the brain, the beauty, the most popular at their schools. It's charm for me lies in its lack of grace; how it stumbles clumsily along as a film like some akward kid running to fifth period; how it's plot is as sketchy as the doodles on some geeky kid's pee-chee folder; how sometimes little things make our day, make us smile, or even alter one's way of thinking.
To me, it's a nod to that kid that sat in back, day-dreaming about being bigger than he/she is allowed to be. It's about turning around to look at that kid that sits at the back and seeing him/her as something more than an extra in everybody else's life.
To those who hate Nap. Dym. name your fav. funny movies about the teen years. After all, we aren't comparing this movie to Apocalypse Now, On the Waterfront, or even Batman. I wan't to know, what other comparable movie trumps Nap?
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To those who hate Nap. Dym. name your fav. funny movies about the teen years. After all, we aren't comparing this movie to Apocalypse Now, On the Waterfront, or even Batman. I wan't to know, what other comparable movie trumps Nap?[/QUOTE]
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[quote name='sblymnlcrymnl']I can't say they're crappy, but Blow, Casino, Goodfellas, Scarface etc. are all horribly overrated.[/QUOTE]
I've been holding my tongue on alot of these, but you're now saying that Scorcese's best is overrated? Goodfellas is a classic, and Casino is just a great ride from start to finish.
Didn't know that "Blow" was held in such a high regard.
I've been holding my tongue on alot of these, but you're now saying that Scorcese's best is overrated? Goodfellas is a classic, and Casino is just a great ride from start to finish.
Didn't know that "Blow" was held in such a high regard.
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[quote name='camoor']I've been holding my tongue on alot of these, but you're now saying that Scorcese's best is overrated? Goodfellas is a classic, and Casino is just a great ride from start to finish.
Didn't know that "Blow" was held in such a high regard.[/QUOTE]
I just don't enjoy the whole "rise and fall of a drug lord" thing. Casino was ... boring.
I've heard many people name Blow as their favorite movie of all time.
Didn't know that "Blow" was held in such a high regard.[/QUOTE]
I just don't enjoy the whole "rise and fall of a drug lord" thing. Casino was ... boring.
I've heard many people name Blow as their favorite movie of all time.
[quote name='darkmere']studios do not a good movie make. and no where in my complaints did i mention the studio vs location...it was one of the things that actually worked for clerks. i know it was a low budget, but i've seen good low budget. and i've seen people that aren't even actors act better. my point is the movie is overrated...kinda the point of this thread. if you don't agree, then that's also the point of the thread...crappy movies that everyone loves.[/QUOTE]
Oh, it's over rated, I'll give you that. But, I was just saying, faulting stuff like the editing and the lack of fancy camera tricks when they barely had enough money for a tripod to stand the camera on aren't reasons to fault it.
Oh, it's over rated, I'll give you that. But, I was just saying, faulting stuff like the editing and the lack of fancy camera tricks when they barely had enough money for a tripod to stand the camera on aren't reasons to fault it.
[quote name='doctorfaustus']To those who hate Nap. Dym. name your fav. funny movies about the teen years. After all, we aren't comparing this movie to Apocalypse Now, On the Waterfront, or even Batman. I wan't to know, what other comparable movie trumps Nap?[/QUOTE]
Saying its genre is "comedy about the teen years" is retarded. First off, teenage comedies are all fairly stupid. I found them so when I was a teenager, and continue to find them so now. What other "teen comedies" are there really? American Pie? Not Another Teen Movie? Mean Girls? And, before you ask, yes, as bad as all of those movies are, they are funnier than Napoleon Dynamite. Then again, I think stabbing myself in the eye repeatedly for 90 minutes would have been funnier/more enjoyable than ND.
But, I digress. Napoleon Dynamite is supposed to be a comedy, and it can be compared to any other comedy. And, in that respect, even the awkward, slapstick antics of Steve Carrell in The 40 Year Old Virgin (as the most recent comedy I've seen) easily beats out Napoleon Dynamite in the number of laughs evoked and the quality of the jokes/humor.
Saying its genre is "comedy about the teen years" is retarded. First off, teenage comedies are all fairly stupid. I found them so when I was a teenager, and continue to find them so now. What other "teen comedies" are there really? American Pie? Not Another Teen Movie? Mean Girls? And, before you ask, yes, as bad as all of those movies are, they are funnier than Napoleon Dynamite. Then again, I think stabbing myself in the eye repeatedly for 90 minutes would have been funnier/more enjoyable than ND.
But, I digress. Napoleon Dynamite is supposed to be a comedy, and it can be compared to any other comedy. And, in that respect, even the awkward, slapstick antics of Steve Carrell in The 40 Year Old Virgin (as the most recent comedy I've seen) easily beats out Napoleon Dynamite in the number of laughs evoked and the quality of the jokes/humor.
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[quote name='sblymnlcrymnl']I just don't enjoy the whole "rise and fall of a drug lord" thing. Casino was ... boring.
I've heard many people name Blow as their favorite movie of all time.[/QUOTE]
Well - there's a difference between overrated and not enjoying something because it doesn't suit your personal tastes.
Personally, I can't stand most musicals and I just plain hated West Side Story, but I realize that it's a great musical with great performances that just doesn't jive with my personal tastes.
That Blow thing though - :shock: - give those people a copy of Donnie Brasco so they can compare it to a real classic.
I've heard many people name Blow as their favorite movie of all time.[/QUOTE]
Well - there's a difference between overrated and not enjoying something because it doesn't suit your personal tastes.
Personally, I can't stand most musicals and I just plain hated West Side Story, but I realize that it's a great musical with great performances that just doesn't jive with my personal tastes.
That Blow thing though - :shock: - give those people a copy of Donnie Brasco so they can compare it to a real classic.
[quote name='Brak']Whaddaya waitin' fer!?
I think it's only $10 now... If not, I see it on sale from time to time for $10.[/QUOTE]
Well Hollywood Video's having a 5-for-20 sale on all 7.99 or lower preowned movies (meaning no new releases). Since I missed lots of movies, I'm gonna go and maybe buy some. Hopefully Vol. 2 will be in the mix.
I think it's only $10 now... If not, I see it on sale from time to time for $10.[/QUOTE]
Well Hollywood Video's having a 5-for-20 sale on all 7.99 or lower preowned movies (meaning no new releases). Since I missed lots of movies, I'm gonna go and maybe buy some. Hopefully Vol. 2 will be in the mix.
reservoir dogs.
Gratuitous violence - It would suffice to indicate the guy was tortured...not show it in gory detail.
Stupid Dialogue - Debates on tipping make Buscemi out to be an even bigger whiner than ever.
Stupid Plot - A whodunnit for the ages? More like a story that was executed as badly as the robbery.
Gratuitous violence - It would suffice to indicate the guy was tortured...not show it in gory detail.
Stupid Dialogue - Debates on tipping make Buscemi out to be an even bigger whiner than ever.
Stupid Plot - A whodunnit for the ages? More like a story that was executed as badly as the robbery.
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Wow...PULP FICTION. Hell of a good call right there. That was the nastiest POS I've ever witnessed. Total crap..
Not sure if anyone has mentioned this one or not but how about..Star Wars Revenge of the Sith? Was that the latest one? Whatever it's called..That movie was the perfect example of a "waste of film". The truth of the matter on this one is, forget it's a star wars film for a second and look for some good in it. You can't because there was none...and at the same time i believe the yahoo user rating was still an A- after 10,000 plus reviews. LIES.
Not sure if anyone has mentioned this one or not but how about..Star Wars Revenge of the Sith? Was that the latest one? Whatever it's called..That movie was the perfect example of a "waste of film". The truth of the matter on this one is, forget it's a star wars film for a second and look for some good in it. You can't because there was none...and at the same time i believe the yahoo user rating was still an A- after 10,000 plus reviews. LIES.
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[quote name='Nick']Not sure if anyone has mentioned this one or not but how about..Star Wars Revenge of the Sith? Was that the latest one? Whatever it's called..That movie was the perfect example of a "waste of film". The truth of the matter on this one is, forget it's a star wars film for a second and look for some good in it. You can't because there was none...and at the same time i believe the yahoo user rating was still an A- after 10,000 plus reviews. LIES.[/QUOTE]
Yes - this movie has been raised again and again. It's probably going to win the "overrated movie of the thread" award.
Yes - this movie has been raised again and again. It's probably going to win the "overrated movie of the thread" award.
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[quote name='MrMaddness']I think some people are missing the point.
Nobody loves Alien vs. Predator or Envy.
And if they do...god save their soul.[/QUOTE]
I haven't met a person who loves the latter, but I know people that are crazy about either Alien movies or Predator movies and absolutely loved it.
Another one of my obligatory movies to clean this thread up, Freddie vs Jason.
Also, I think that Hellraiser should be on the list as well.
Nobody loves Alien vs. Predator or Envy.
And if they do...god save their soul.[/QUOTE]
I haven't met a person who loves the latter, but I know people that are crazy about either Alien movies or Predator movies and absolutely loved it.
Another one of my obligatory movies to clean this thread up, Freddie vs Jason.
Also, I think that Hellraiser should be on the list as well.
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[quote name='sblymnlcrymnl']The Shawshank Redemption
The Silence of the Lambs [/QUOTE]
:shock: :shock:
I'm saddened to hear these two come out of you crymnl. Still, overall you have a great taste in movies, so I won't it penalize against you if you one or two mistakes
The Silence of the Lambs [/QUOTE]
:shock: :shock:
I'm saddened to hear these two come out of you crymnl. Still, overall you have a great taste in movies, so I won't it penalize against you if you one or two mistakes
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[quote name='sblymnlcrymnl']I can't say they're crappy, but Blow, Casino, Goodfellas, Scarface etc. are all horribly overrated.[/QUOTE]
When did this thread become about movies that are overrated. Haven't seen Blow, Casino, but Goodfellas is definitely not overrated and I'll admit that Scarface is a bit overrated smply because of our Gangsta-hop culture at the moment.
When did this thread become about movies that are overrated. Haven't seen Blow, Casino, but Goodfellas is definitely not overrated and I'll admit that Scarface is a bit overrated smply because of our Gangsta-hop culture at the moment.
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[quote name='Nick']Wow...PULP FICTION. Hell of a good call right there. That was the nastiest POS I've ever witnessed. Total crap..[/QUOTE]
This movie changed the landscape of cinema. The rise of independent film, the return of film noir - it revitalized the careers of everyone associated from Jackson to Travolta.
Not many movies have as lasting an impact as Pulp Fiction - I really don't see how it can be considered overrated.
Now - you may not have liked it as much as others - but in that case it really belongs in a "Highly rated movies that I didn't enjoy" thread.
This movie changed the landscape of cinema. The rise of independent film, the return of film noir - it revitalized the careers of everyone associated from Jackson to Travolta.
Not many movies have as lasting an impact as Pulp Fiction - I really don't see how it can be considered overrated.
Now - you may not have liked it as much as others - but in that case it really belongs in a "Highly rated movies that I didn't enjoy" thread.
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[quote name='Jeoff']According to IMDB people like Lord of War and it was the worst movie released this year by far. Yeah black people can take apart a jet in 24 hours with their bare hands and haul away all the pieces. Because they use all parts of an animal. I get it. That's ing gay and wrong. Also if you give a history wrap up at the end of a movie and say "The following 5 countries are ing gay: America, France, England..." it kind of makes your movie look like a shitty political statement. Which it was.[/QUOTE]
Lord of War was great! And you're last two sentences basically contradict yourself. Nice job.
Donnie Darko's a great movie. I thought this list was supposed to be about crappy movies people love, not people's personal dislikes. This threads gone down the crapper.
Someone mentioned these:
The Terminal
Castaway
Catch me if you Can
and while they may be a bit overrated in the mainstream's eyes, they are no way near being crappy. Also, the guy that put these down said that the reason why he put them in this thread/list was because Tom Hanks makes too many movies. Bullshit. No reason why movies should be in a thread title name a crappy movie. Who gives a shit how many movies an actor makes. That's his job, to act.
I,Robot - Not the best film, but crappy, umm..no. Again, the reason why the poster put this one on this list is because Will Smith acts in too many movies. Bull shit, again no reason why to put him/his movies on a list of crappy movies. The guy's a good fun (keyword people so that I don't get ripped to pieces) actor. If you enjoy him/his movies than you'll go see them. Plain and simple.
[quote name='nickmad']Star Wars (Ep 1-6)
Matrix Trilogy
Casablanca
U571
Gladiator[/QUOTE]
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Will reserve comment till a later post
Bad post: Classic Noir film. Probably does not understand the meaning of a film.
haven't seen so can't coment
Another one of my picks for this thread, since it is obligatory to clean it up a bit is Stealth.
bad post
Oh, P.S. I have come to the conclusion that every person that says LOTR, Star Wars, Matrix, etc. is just trying to jump on a bandwagon and bash.
ing gay and wrong. Also if you give a history wrap up at the end of a movie and say "The following 5 countries are ing gay: America, France, England..." it kind of makes your movie look like a shitty political statement. Which it was.[/QUOTE]Lord of War was great! And you're last two sentences basically contradict yourself. Nice job.
Donnie Darko's a great movie. I thought this list was supposed to be about crappy movies people love, not people's personal dislikes. This threads gone down the crapper.
Someone mentioned these:
The Terminal
Castaway
Catch me if you Can
and while they may be a bit overrated in the mainstream's eyes, they are no way near being crappy. Also, the guy that put these down said that the reason why he put them in this thread/list was because Tom Hanks makes too many movies. Bullshit. No reason why movies should be in a thread title name a crappy movie. Who gives a shit how many movies an actor makes. That's his job, to act.
I,Robot - Not the best film, but crappy, umm..no. Again, the reason why the poster put this one on this list is because Will Smith acts in too many movies. Bull shit, again no reason why to put him/his movies on a list of crappy movies. The guy's a good fun (keyword people so that I don't get ripped to pieces) actor. If you enjoy him/his movies than you'll go see them. Plain and simple.
[quote name='nickmad']Star Wars (Ep 1-6)
Matrix Trilogy
Casablanca
U571
Gladiator[/QUOTE]
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Will reserve comment till a later post
Bad post: Classic Noir film. Probably does not understand the meaning of a film.
haven't seen so can't coment
Another one of my picks for this thread, since it is obligatory to clean it up a bit is Stealth.
bad post
Oh, P.S. I have come to the conclusion that every person that says LOTR, Star Wars, Matrix, etc. is just trying to jump on a bandwagon and bash.
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[quote name='camoor']This movie changed the landscape of cinema. The rise of independent film, the return of film noir - it revitalized the careers of everyone associated from Jackson to Travolta.
Not many movies have as lasting an impact as Pulp Fiction - I really don't see how it can be considered overrated.
Now - you may not have liked it as much as others - but in that case it really belongs in a "Highly rated movies that I didn't enjoy" thread.[/QUOTE]
I hundred percent agree with you camoor. I was just going to say basically the same thing.
Not many movies have as lasting an impact as Pulp Fiction - I really don't see how it can be considered overrated.
Now - you may not have liked it as much as others - but in that case it really belongs in a "Highly rated movies that I didn't enjoy" thread.[/QUOTE]
I hundred percent agree with you camoor. I was just going to say basically the same thing.
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[quote name='alongx']Saying its genre is "comedy about the teen years" is retarded. First off, teenage comedies are all fairly stupid. I found them so when I was a teenager, and continue to find them so now. What other "teen comedies" are there really? American Pie? Not Another Teen Movie? Mean Girls? And, before you ask, yes, as bad as all of those movies are, they are funnier than Napoleon Dynamite. Then again, I think stabbing myself in the eye repeatedly for 90 minutes would have been funnier/more enjoyable than ND.
But, I digress. Napoleon Dynamite is supposed to be a comedy, and it can be compared to any other comedy. And, in that respect, even the awkward, slapstick antics of Steve Carrell in The 40 Year Old Virgin (as the most recent comedy I've seen) easily beats out Napoleon Dynamite in the number of laughs evoked and the quality of the jokes/humor.[/QUOTE]
Let me say this, I found House of the Dead (quite possibly the most abysmal film in the history of film) to be funnier than Napoleon Dynamite.
But, I digress. Napoleon Dynamite is supposed to be a comedy, and it can be compared to any other comedy. And, in that respect, even the awkward, slapstick antics of Steve Carrell in The 40 Year Old Virgin (as the most recent comedy I've seen) easily beats out Napoleon Dynamite in the number of laughs evoked and the quality of the jokes/humor.[/QUOTE]
Let me say this, I found House of the Dead (quite possibly the most abysmal film in the history of film) to be funnier than Napoleon Dynamite.
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A crappy movie?? I'm sorry, but more than one comes to mind...and they are:
Spiderman 1 and 2 (not necessarily crappy, but waaaay over-rated)
Titanic (get over it....the boat sank- end of movie)
Truman Show (I just couldn't get into it)
Million Dollar Baby (Movie was kinda doing OK, until half way through it makes a dead stop.. I have other problems with the movie but I don't want to spoil the movie for any one who hasn't seen it)
Passion of the Christ (OK, I said it... but it was a little too over-the-top)
War of the Worlds (Just give the original and I'm fine.. this one just plain sucked)
Signs and Unbreakable (M Night just didn't have near as good of punch as Sixth Sense.. it's almost like he tried too hard)
Case Away (boring....and what was in the damn package anywhoo??......actually I don't care anymore)
Spiderman 1 and 2 (not necessarily crappy, but waaaay over-rated)
Titanic (get over it....the boat sank- end of movie)
Truman Show (I just couldn't get into it)
Million Dollar Baby (Movie was kinda doing OK, until half way through it makes a dead stop.. I have other problems with the movie but I don't want to spoil the movie for any one who hasn't seen it)
Passion of the Christ (OK, I said it... but it was a little too over-the-top)
War of the Worlds (Just give the original and I'm fine.. this one just plain sucked)
Signs and Unbreakable (M Night just didn't have near as good of punch as Sixth Sense.. it's almost like he tried too hard)
Case Away (boring....and what was in the damn package anywhoo??......actually I don't care anymore)
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Why is everyone defending movies? This is retarded. You are supposed to "name a crappy movie that everyone loves". It's a thread for people to say they found a movie crappy that alot of other people like. No movie is actually crappy, calling something crappy is subjective. Obviously some of you are going to like the movies other list... that's sort of part of the deal when naming movies that people like, that you do not like. Everyone defending movies is kind of ... well, again... retarded.
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[quote name='alongx']Oh, it's over rated, I'll give you that. But, I was just saying, faulting stuff like the editing and the lack of fancy camera tricks when they barely had enough money for a tripod to stand the camera on aren't reasons to fault it.[/QUOTE]that's not as much of a money issue...it's obvious they had a tripod, but they don't move the camera. no pan, no tilt...basic function of every tripod. not a fancy camera trick...in fact i hate most fancy camera tricks. i despise all the matrix ripoffs to cover up lack of a story. as for editing, well...combination of the cinematographer not giving the editor enough choices and the editor staying on boring shots too long. i know it's a low budget, but i've seen much better shorts on a mere fraction of the budget. i've seen some killer shorts made for less than 800 bucks. like i said, i used to love the movie, but when i look at it now i realize how overrated it is. if you love it, more power to you.
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[quote name='capitalist_mao']reservoir dogs.
Gratuitous violence - It would suffice to indicate the guy was tortured...not show it in gory detail.
Stupid Dialogue - Debates on tipping make Buscemi out to be an even bigger whiner than ever.
Stupid Plot - A whodunnit for the ages? More like a story that was executed as badly as the robbery.[/QUOTE]that torture scene wasn't even that bad, you never really see the act. the story and the dialogue were fine.
Gratuitous violence - It would suffice to indicate the guy was tortured...not show it in gory detail.
Stupid Dialogue - Debates on tipping make Buscemi out to be an even bigger whiner than ever.
Stupid Plot - A whodunnit for the ages? More like a story that was executed as badly as the robbery.[/QUOTE]that torture scene wasn't even that bad, you never really see the act. the story and the dialogue were fine.
Well that's your opinion. Lord of War was a train wreck. Name one person other than the cop guy, the addicted to cocaine brother, or the black bad guy who acted better than a dead fish. You can't. Cage was garbage. People are pretending to like this movie just because it's about guns. Fake drama garbage with no action = good?
Other movies I can think of off the top of my head:
Matrix 2 and 3...though a lot of people hated them too
Narc (my friends liked it anyways)...I fell asleep...sorry Ray Liotta
Elf
Other movies I can think of off the top of my head:
Matrix 2 and 3...though a lot of people hated them too
Narc (my friends liked it anyways)...I fell asleep...sorry Ray Liotta
Elf
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[quote name='triforcer']that torture scene wasn't even that bad, you never really see the act. the story and the dialogue were fine.[/QUOTE]agreed...it's one of those scenes where the violence is sold entirely off camera. you hear the cop screaming, but the camera pans away from the action. there is a good shot of the head without the ear, but that's not really overly graphic. funny what people's imaginations do to a scene as well executed as that.
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i have to say i started to hate the matrix some extent after seeing Dark City. If you haven't seen it, at least rent it. I'm not going to say the Matrix ripped it off, but it's definitely less unique...
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[quote name='Machikunas']Why is everyone defending movies? This is retarded. You are supposed to "name a crappy movie that everyone loves". It's a thread for people to say they found a movie crappy that alot of other people like. No movie is actually crappy, calling something crappy is subjective. Obviously some of you are going to like the movies other list... that's sort of part of the deal when naming movies that people like, that you do not like. Everyone defending movies is kind of ... well, again... retarded.[/QUOTE]
It's like the "Name the worst game" thread where some attention-grabbing asshole always says GTA3 or Halo. I don't care how cool or underground you think you are, I don't care if you don't personally enjoy them, you have to realize that movies like Birth of a Nation, Citizen Kain, and Casablanca are all-time classics of cinema for a reason - and it's just not factually correct to label them as "crappy".
Now the Princess Bride - THAT is crap my friends.
It's like the "Name the worst game" thread where some attention-grabbing asshole always says GTA3 or Halo. I don't care how cool or underground you think you are, I don't care if you don't personally enjoy them, you have to realize that movies like Birth of a Nation, Citizen Kain, and Casablanca are all-time classics of cinema for a reason - and it's just not factually correct to label them as "crappy".
Now the Princess Bride - THAT is crap my friends.
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[quote name='wildnuts02']i have to say i started to hate the matrix some extent after seeing Dark City. If you haven't seen it, at least rent it. I'm not going to say the Matrix ripped it off, but it's definitely less unique...[/QUOTE]
Don't know about that. IMO the Matrix is better, we just think of it as derivative now because it has been copied by countless movies and nearly every videogame since. Dark City is a good movie, but the pacing is too slow for my tastes and it really doesn't chart into the philisophical/metaphysical issues as much as the Matrix.
IMO another good sci-fi film noir that was unfortunately overshadowed by the Matrix was "The Thirteenth Floor". I wouldn't put it on the same plane as the Matrix, but there are some darn cool visuals in the movie and the murder mystery story does not dissapoint.
Don't know about that. IMO the Matrix is better, we just think of it as derivative now because it has been copied by countless movies and nearly every videogame since. Dark City is a good movie, but the pacing is too slow for my tastes and it really doesn't chart into the philisophical/metaphysical issues as much as the Matrix.
IMO another good sci-fi film noir that was unfortunately overshadowed by the Matrix was "The Thirteenth Floor". I wouldn't put it on the same plane as the Matrix, but there are some darn cool visuals in the movie and the murder mystery story does not dissapoint.
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[quote name='camoor']Don't know about that. IMO the Matrix is better, we just think of it as derivative now because it has been copied by countless movies and nearly every videogame since. Dark City is a good movie, but the pacing is too slow for my tastes and it really doesn't chart into the philisophical/metaphysical issues as much as the Matrix.
IMO another good sci-fi film noir that was unfortunately overshadowed by the Matrix was "The Thirteenth Floor". I wouldn't put it on the same plane as the Matrix, but there are some darn cool visuals in the movie and the murder mystery story does not dissapoint.[/QUOTE]
Fair enough. I'll put the 13th Floor in my BB Que.
IMO another good sci-fi film noir that was unfortunately overshadowed by the Matrix was "The Thirteenth Floor". I wouldn't put it on the same plane as the Matrix, but there are some darn cool visuals in the movie and the murder mystery story does not dissapoint.[/QUOTE]
Fair enough. I'll put the 13th Floor in my BB Que.
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[quote name='triforcer']the matrix can get a little too philisophical like in the sequels. dark city is great, but i think they should give the audience a bit more credit instead of having the narrative at the beginning.[/QUOTE]
I agree - I was only talking about the original Matrix, the second one was a forgettable but enjoyable experience, the third was completely terrible.
I only saw the director's cut of Dark City, sounds like they did a Blade Runner sytle hack-job on the theatrical release. It's a shame, but when people can be confused by the plot to Mission Impossible a marketer is going to do what he has to do to make those extra "stupid public" bucks.
I agree - I was only talking about the original Matrix, the second one was a forgettable but enjoyable experience, the third was completely terrible.
I only saw the director's cut of Dark City, sounds like they did a Blade Runner sytle hack-job on the theatrical release. It's a shame, but when people can be confused by the plot to Mission Impossible a marketer is going to do what he has to do to make those extra "stupid public" bucks.
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The difference there is that everyone knows it's crappy and they still love it. In fact, that's why they love it. :lol:
The difference there is that everyone knows it's crappy and they still love it. In fact, that's why they love it. :lol:
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[quote name='camoor']It's like the "Name the worst game" thread where some attention-grabbing asshole always says GTA3 or Halo. I don't care how cool or underground you think you are, I don't care if you don't personally enjoy them, you have to realize that movies like Birth of a Nation, Citizen Kain, and Casablanca are all-time classics of cinema for a reason - and it's just not factually correct to label them as "crappy".
Now the Princess Bride - THAT is crap my friends.[/QUOTE]
Worst movie, and movies you find crappy are too different things. I chose Donnie Darko because it's a movie a lot of people like that I don't. If you asked me to choose the worst movie I've seen it wouldbe something different.
This thread is obviously based in opinion. Though I personally don't care at all about how influential or different something was, if I didn't like then I didn't like it. Be it Halo 2 of Donnie Darko.
Now the Princess Bride - THAT is crap my friends.[/QUOTE]
Worst movie, and movies you find crappy are too different things. I chose Donnie Darko because it's a movie a lot of people like that I don't. If you asked me to choose the worst movie I've seen it wouldbe something different.
This thread is obviously based in opinion. Though I personally don't care at all about how influential or different something was, if I didn't like then I didn't like it. Be it Halo 2 of Donnie Darko.
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