Netflix Streaming Thread 2.0

[quote name='Scorch']Watch the video I posted in the OP. The guy in charge of Qwikster promises to FINALLY bring in games![/QUOTE]

damn, i was hoping streaming and game rentals.
 
[quote name='Scorch']I'm interested to see how the stock fares tomorrow. Reed Hastings has been selling shares of his stock like it's going out of style.[/QUOTE]

In this case, that's not just a cliche.

5K shares a week, every week for 5 weeks straight. I'm guessing 5K is a cap of some kind, otherwise he'd be jumping ship even faster.
 
Starz streaming sucked anyway, only good in a pinch. No 5.1 or HD on those titles. Sad that is even on people's radar in this mess.

And if they were going to be this late to the game on game rentals, they could have at least tried to be a complete replacement for GameFly, but it doesn't sound like they will carry DS games, or for that matter Xbox or GameCube. Its like they don't want GF to fail.
 
I like when you click the the link for qwikster it has a pic of a table with popcorn, some of the envelopes, and a Xbox 360 controller.

I don't actually mind the split as long as the service still gets me the movies in the same timely fashion and they improve the streaming service. I wonder how they plan to charge for games?
 
[quote name='Scorch']I'm interested to see how the stock fares tomorrow. Reed Hastings has been selling shares of his stock like it's going out of style.[/QUOTE]
That explains the stupid name.Really interested in a game rental service that is not horrible,though.I hope this is somehow successful.
 
Originally I was going to cancel the streaming portion, but now I'm thinking the opposite. I know there's some concerns about the future of the service, but if/when that happens I'll just cancel it too. After looking into Redbox I think that's the way my family and I will go.

I do like DVD by mail for its simplicity, but occasionally it's hard to find the time during the week for a movie and this way we won't sort of be "forced" into a movie if we don't want it. By forced I mean keeping price/movie as low as possible by watching as much as possible. The addition of games is tempting, but again more cost involved and I can still nab those from Redbox as well.

Today is the day I will cancel the dvd portion of my service. Redbox will give me what I want (BD, games) when I want them. I don't mind gas cost, as Redboxes are pentiful and always on my way to something or another.

The fact that the CEO is touting how great the splitting of the services will be and is selling off his stock shares like crazy is just a bit eye-opening. Also, the lack of a combined queue or rather, if I place a dvd in my queue and it's available for streaming, it'll no longer show in my instant queue. Do not like the split or the price increase. Just glad there are other options out there.

Edit: On second thought, screw'em. The CEO selling all those shares, splitting into two different services without a combined queue, and the price increase have just really been eating on me this morning. I'm done with Netflix altogether. I've got an Amazon app on my tv and already use prime so I'll just use that for streaming and Redbox for current releases. I realize that together these services aren't as great as the whole Netflix experience, but I'll make do and for a lot less money too.
 
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[quote name='turls']Starz streaming sucked anyway, only good in a pinch. No 5.1 or HD on those titles. Sad that is even on people's radar in this mess.[/quote]

The Starz steaming titles had both of those things, I think. The new releases from Starz definitely stream in HD.
 
[quote name='Owen']They probably split it so they can kill off the DVD side of it by the end of 2012.[/QUOTE]

More likely so they have the possibility of selling that portion of the company down the road.

I can't see it getting killed off by 2012 as streaming isn't viable until they can offer all new releases etc.

I'll want discs by mail until that point as I'm not willing to hassle with red box or local rental stores as it adds errands to my already hectic schedule with having to find time to pick up and return movies rather than just getting them in the mail.
 
netflix was always too good to be true. From that $8 a month unlimited streaming of all that content plus 1 dvd at a time. To even how much it costs now.
 
Well, I'm looking forward to the addition of games. Of course it depends on what they are going to charge. Hopefully it's more reasonable than Gamefly which is too expensive IMHO. Either way I'll be keeping both streaming and discs. It's a great service and is still a ton cheaper than paying for cable, which we don't do.
 
[quote name='AshesofWake']netflix was always too good to be true. From that $8 a month unlimited streaming of all that content plus 1 dvd at a time. To even how much it costs now.[/QUOTE]

I agree. It's amazing that most people look down on the service and how everyone jumped ship when pricing went up. I've been a netflix subscriber for at least ten years i think, and even back when they first introduced streaming my roommate at the time told me Netflix "sucked because it had nothing good to stream" The streaming was always a bonus, especially at that stage, the company was always a mail service first and foremost.

Splitting into two companies is the most logical thing. He probably should have split them first, before changing the pricing.
 
[quote name='DestroVega']I agree. It's amazing that most people look down on the service and how everyone jumped ship when pricing went up. I've been a netflix subscriber for at least ten years i think, and even back when they first introduced streaming my roommate at the time told me Netflix "sucked because it had nothing good to stream" The streaming was always a bonus, especially at that stage, the company was always a mail service first and foremost.

Splitting into two companies is the most logical thing. He probably should have split them first, before changing the pricing.[/QUOTE]

Or said both at the same time.
 
Well, if Netflix goes under, at least Amazon will swoop in and pick up all their streaming contracts at a discount. Doubt they'll go under though. Do appreciate that the guy actually sent out an honest e-mail. Not just a form letter. Him selling his own stock is kinda shady. Maybe he's out the door.

Don't see the need for a name change. Just keep it Netflix, say "subscription costs went up", and follow that up with "tough shit, pay it or cancel." Like they always did when they increased costs.

At the end of the day, I'm more pissed that I now have to use two different websites to manage one packaged service I pay for.
 
[quote name='crunchb3rry']at the end of the day, i'm more pissed that i now have to use two different websites to manage one packaged service i pay for.[/quote]

qft
 
what's next? Up charge for the HD content , up charge for TV show seasons?

I am really thinking next year is going to be bad for netflix.
 
I'll believe that this split lets them focus on improving the streaming service when I see it. They have a lot of things to fix/improve that should've been tackled once they offered a streaming-only sub.
 
[quote name='crunchb3rry']Well, if Netflix goes under, at least Amazon will swoop in and pick up all their streaming contracts at a discount. Doubt they'll go under though. Do appreciate that the guy actually sent out an honest e-mail. Not just a form letter. Him selling his own stock is kinda shady. Maybe he's out the door.

Don't see the need for a name change. Just keep it Netflix, say "subscription costs went up", and follow that up with "tough shit, pay it or cancel." Like they always did when they increased costs.

At the end of the day, I'm more pissed that I now have to use two different websites to manage one packaged service I pay for.[/QUOTE]

Why wouldnt he sell look how much it was UP In the past year...
 
[quote name='crunchb3rry']Him selling his own stock is kinda shady. Maybe he's out the door.[/QUOTE]

The site says he has 1 million+ shares. 5,000 is nothing.(0.5%)
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']I'll believe that this split lets them focus on improving the streaming service when I see it. They have a lot of things to fix/improve that should've been tackled once they offered a streaming-only sub.[/QUOTE]

Like what?
 
[quote name='ITDEFX']what's next? Up charge for the HD content , up charge for TV show seasons?[/QUOTE]

No, Hastings subtly admitted in his "apology" e-mail that he's well aware of how pissed people were with the price increases. Looks like games will just have the same kind of premium charge Blu-Rays do, nothing more.

They're in the mode now where they have to please consumers (hence the need for the CEO to personally e-mail all subscribers), so I don't think they'll be nickel and diming anybody for quite some time.

I'm guessing it's more of a way for each service type to get the money they earned rather than share it. Like streaming getting probably the most cash from subscribers but having the profits from that going towards supporting the DVD-by-mail end. Or vice versa, if that's the case.
 
[quote name='camoor']Like what?[/QUOTE]

its not horrible but they definelty have issues with streaming. my biggest issues with it are video quality especially with some foreign films its can be very bad and theres the occasional movie/ show that doesnt work.

theres a series i was watching i had to wait a few weeks until they got the last 2 bits back up and when they did they had the orders reversed.

thumbs up america on netflix has the same issue the first season is missing the final episode and the second season has 2 of the same episode in diff episode spots.

i also dont like the fact that alot of the anime/froeign movies are dubbed and not subbed itd be nice if you had the option to choose which you wanted but thats more of a personal issues with the service.


the service is awesome for the price but it can easily be so much better.
 
[quote name='slidecage']Why wouldnt he sell look how much it was UP In the past year...[/QUOTE]
When the CEO of a company starts selling off stock that's generally considered a bad sign.
 
http://money.cnn.com/2011/09/19/technology/netflix_cash/index.htm

Compared to other streaming providers, Netflix can't afford to get into a bidding war because they simply don't have the cash on hand. It's an interesting article, though pitting Netflix against Apple isn't really the right way to look at it. Apple (through iTunes) provides a marketplace to purchase streaming content while Netflix is a subscription to watch whatever you want. They're completely different. Netflix vs. Amazon is still pretty vague too.
 
Netflix streaming is quite good. I'm happy with it. But I wouldn't just have streaming due to lots of things being missing. Still, there's a ton of great stuff on there. There's always something good to watch. Just watched This is England the other night. Looked fantastic and it's a great movie. If you're into arthouse cinema, Netflix streaming is fantastic. If you want the blockbusters it's a different story. I like both, myself, though mostly arthouse stuff.
 
I just have streaming, and there's soooooooooooo many movies I haven't watched that it's enough for now. Hopefully with this split they'll focus on getting more stuff into streaming more quickly.

Last week I watched (for the first time):
- The Machinist
- Gangs of New York
- Iron Man 2
- The Boondock Saints
- Ponyo (with my 4 year old)
 
The problem with netflix is they made the same mistake rookie frelancers make. They under charged for their service for far to long now their client have become used to paying pennies for service. This happens all the time in my field. Then the very second you try to change it to get close to what it really should cost people fucking fall apart. I meet clients all the time who expect 5k worth of service for a couple hundred bucks because they had some fresh out of school guy just trying to make a buck (which is fine I am just speaking on the condition factor) Seriously people you were paying 10 dollars for unlimited dvds to be sent to your house and unlimited streaming on virtually every device that exist. It was a great deal for the better part of a decade and its not like they went from 10 to 50 it was 10 to 15. Can people be more whiny and bitchy.
 
Indeed. I've got streaming and 2DVDs out at a time with the BR option as well. My total price increase was all of $4 or something and I still pay less than $25 per month. I usually watch two or three movies by mail which would cost at least $30 per month to buy the movies. Streaming is just icing on the cake as I get to see stuff on my TV right away THROUGH MAGIC as well as watch an episode of Kids in the Hall or something on my phone during my lunch break at work. Yeah, that's not worth $8...

If the new split means I can get a game as one of those 2 DVDs and the price doesn't go up by more than $4 per month I'm gonna be happy as all get out. I got rid of cable TV (about $80 per month or so) so as long as I can stay
 
yep, it's still a good deal for me.

I watch 1-2 movies by mail per week, and usually 1-2 movies or a few TV episodes on streaming. Can't complain about that for $17.98 plus tax (1 out out at a time plus blu ray and streaming).

Sure it, was an even more unbelievable deal at $11.99 plus tax before. But it's still a good deal and much more convenient than hassling with the local store (of which there isn't one very convenient since the closest Blockbuster closed down) or Redbox. I hate having to worry about due dates/time, find time in the day to drive to the store or machine and return the disc etc.
 
I have a feeling the game rentals are going to add more then $4. I'm guessing at least $10, maybe more. I'll be pleased as punch if it's less, though.
 
[quote name='camoor']Like what?[/QUOTE]
Stable servers, getting rid of the fluid categories that are different every time I use the app, list New Arrivals by what is actually newest, more content with subtitles, and an auto-sort option for the queue to name a few.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']Stable servers, getting rid of the fluid categories that are different every time I use the app, list New Arrivals by what is actually newest, more content with subtitles, and an auto-sort option for the queue to name a few.[/QUOTE]

Along the lines of the "fluid categories", half the time when I log in I see my "Recently Viewed" category show up and half the time it's not there. This happens on both 360 and PS3. Its kind of annoying when you have a TV show you're watching and it's buried in the middle of your queue and you have to go searching for it when it should be showing up in the "Recently Viewed" category.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']Along the lines of the "fluid categories", half the time when I log in I see my "Recently Viewed" category show up and half the time it's not there. This happens on both 360 and PS3. Its kind of annoying when you have a TV show you're watching and it's buried in the middle of your queue and you have to go searching for it when it should be showing up in the "Recently Viewed" category.[/QUOTE]
That's exactly what I'm talking about. The original PS3 HUD that I had was basically a static set of categories that was great, but then Netflix decided that it was too good for PS3 users to have and changed it to a Xbox 360-style list of categories.

I have a few shows I'm going through that Recently Viewed is perfect for, but when it's not there every other time, it's annoying as fuck. It takes away functionality because it randomly disappears for no reason besides bad UI design.
[quote name='Maklershed']I don't know what it is but Conan O'Brien Can't Stop was added to streaming.[/QUOTE]
It's a documentary about the tour he was on during his time off after the NBC debacle.
 
Just signed up to BB Total access. Glad, I, and others, sent a message to Netflix and went through with our promise of canceling our sub. I know quite a few people personally that I turned on to Netflix or recommended it to that also canceled their subscription. So far I'm not minding it, nor BB Total Access, and am looking forward to my first two DVDs in the mail and the ability to switch them at the store by me. I'll let this trial go into action and then decide at the end of the month what I think. Supposedly BB might be doing some surprise thing on Friday that might, or might not, include an announcement about streaming or something. Looking forward to getting games in the mail as well, as all the local rental stores by me finally went kaput and I can only rent games through Redbox (which I've only done once).
 
I was on BB's plan where I paid $21 a month for one of anything out at at time. I canceled it because they don't get most of the new movies I wanted to see - just the mainstream stuff I already saw in theaters.

I am bummed to find out that Sons of Anarchy only has the first two seasons on netflix. Off to torrent land I go....
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']Stable servers, getting rid of the fluid categories that are different every time I use the app, list New Arrivals by what is actually newest, more content with subtitles, and an auto-sort option for the queue to name a few.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I'll agree with you there - that new PS3 interface is horrendus.
 
This isn't the best place for it but since everyone here enjoys the streaming I thought I'd post that Amazon has Super and Priest for $1.99 today.
 
I'm just going to toss this out here; In the last few days, has anyone else had a lot of random disconnects in their streaming?

I've noticed it since the most recent PS3 update (the timing is about the same).
 
One positive I've noticed lately is I've been getting Bluray new releases right away (Thor etc.) where as before they were usually 2-4 weeks sitting on "long wait" in my queue before.

So I guess that's one plus of a lot of people canceling!

Haven't watched any streaming since last week, so can't comment on disconnects.
 
Huh! so other people ARE having the issue? Does it impact other devices in your home at the same time as Netflix stops working as well, or just the active streaming session?
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']I haven't had any problems on Xbox.[/QUOTE]

After trying a second router, taking my PS3 out of my active network devices is the next thing I plan to try - It's good to know the Xbox seems to be working well, since it's what I'd be streaming to next.

If I keep getting the issues, one more thing is ruled out.
 
I think it's the PS3's wireless and the 3.72 update fucked it up. I downloaded the update late Monday, installed it, and went to bed. I was having problems Tuesday with the store being slow, being signed out randomly, and the DSL flashing light showing data was being downloaded would work and then stop. I wired the PS3 up to the router I have and it worked as it should, without any problems.
 
Wonderful. I don't have the update yet, and my PS3 has to be wireless, so I guess I'll avoid it as long as possible. I hope this gets fixed before Dark Souls comes out :(
 
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