New XBOX Experience - General Discussion

[quote name='Zyzomys']I was hoping to get in also. I guess this gives me time to find a relatively cheap 120 GB hdd. I am so looking forward to loading my frequently played games simply so that I do not have to listen to the disc drive roaring during game play.[/quote]

I 2nd that.
 
[quote name='moojuice']Theres a severe lack of minorities represented as templates >_>[/quote]

Well, honestly, I figured it would be like that. That's usually the case.

I'm just glad that you can /customize/ your character to look quite a bit like yourself. That's far more important than template avatars that, frankly, DO represent a majority of the population.

Personally I'm excited that beauty marks are in.
 
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Here's a question for the NXE beta testers (That's what you are, deal with it):

With the PS3, when you send a FR, in that message you can include a message to go along with it (mainly to spell out where the hell you're from). Does NXE allow you to include messages in FR's or do they still have to be separate messages?
 
[quote name='KingBroly']Here's a question for the NXE beta testers (That's what you are, deal with it):

With the PS3, when you send a FR, in that message you can include a message to go along with it (mainly to spell out where the hell you're from). Does NXE allow you to include messages in FR's or do they still have to be separate messages?[/QUOTE]

Just tried it...you can include a voice message. No text though.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']Anyone knows what the "starred" avatar clothing items signify?[/quote]
I think those are items that have been added recently.
 
[quote name='moojuice']I suddenly really want a 120 GB hard drive. Damn you Microsoft.[/quote]
Me too.. maybe the 60 will do though.
 
just got this today...love it......also makes me want a bigger HD but I can live without it for a while (till the 120 gig comes down in price more)....

i have a 360 upstairs i play in bed at night sometimes and i take the HD with me....anyone heard of people getting perma banned for putting the NXE on another xbox?
 
Silly question, I'm sure this download will take quite a while. Will I be able to have the 360 download this while in it's powered off, or "sleep", state or does it have to be fully on? I'd love to have this download for me while I'm at work, but I really don't want to leave my Xbox on by itself for that long.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']Just tried it...you can include a voice message. No text though.[/quote]

Thanks for the answer, but I must say that's bullshit.
 
[quote name='KingBroly']Thanks for the answer, but I must say that's bullshit.[/quote]

Well "bullshit" is kind of a strong word in this instance, don't you think?

It is... inconvenient... but unlike the PS3 you can send a friend request and a message through Xbox.com, so sending a message is a lot easier as you don't have to connect a USB keyboard and such.
 
[quote name='Aku']Silly question, I'm sure this download will take quite a while. Will I be able to have the 360 download this while in it's powered off, or "sleep", state or does it have to be fully on? I'd love to have this download for me while I'm at work, but I really don't want to leave my Xbox on by itself for that long.[/quote]


Took less than 10 minutes for me.
 
I have the nxe thing, but i had a question. I installed gow2, but if i hit play game I notice it is louder than when I hit y and then say play from hard drive. does anyone else get this?>
 
[quote name='Aku']Silly question, I'm sure this download will take quite a while. Will I be able to have the 360 download this while in it's powered off, or "sleep", state or does it have to be fully on? I'd love to have this download for me while I'm at work, but I really don't want to leave my Xbox on by itself for that long.[/QUOTE]

NXE is a 128 MB download so it won't really take that long and the console will auto-update when you go to sign into Live you won't be able to download it while powering it off.
 
[quote name='orbit18']I have the nxe thing, but i had a question. I installed gow2, but if i hit play game I notice it is louder than when I hit y and then say play from hard drive. does anyone else get this?>[/QUOTE]

Well if you just choose to play the game it's going to play the game from the disc and be louder. If you chose to play from the hard drive it spins the disc shortly when the title loads to confirm that you own the title and then stops spinning the disc and plays entirely from the HD.
 
[quote name='xbox_mole']NXE is a 128 MB download so it won't really take that long and the console will auto-update when you go to sign into Live you won't be able to download it while powering it off.[/QUOTE]

It took less than 3 minutes total for me. There are two updates, one small one that you apply from the old dashboard that restarts your console, then another when the console restarts that actually installs the new dash. Was surprised how quick it was.

This may be unrelated/just a change in luck, but watching Inside XBox videos also is much quicker for me now. Quick buffering and no pausing while watching. Now if only the Inside XBox videos were worth watching.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']It took less than 3 minutes total for me. There are two updates, one small one that you apply from the old dashboard that restarts your console, then another when the console restarts that actually installs the new dash. Was surprised how quick it was.

This may be unrelated/just a change in luck, but watching Inside XBox videos also is much quicker for me now. Quick buffering and no pausing while watching. Now if only the Inside XBox videos were worth watching.[/quote]


I think they are saying it will take a long time because everyone and their mother will be dld this on the same day
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']As I believe someone said earlier, the friends list is godawful on the dashboard itself. Thank god they left in the standard one as well. Cheapy is also the only guy on my friends list who has an avatar, daymn. Anyone knows what the "starred" avatar clothing items signify?[/quote]

I believe I heard from a MajorNelson preview that it was to mark the new items.
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']I believe I heard from a MajorNelson preview that it was to mark the new items.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, just went on the newsgroup discussion about NXE and saw that. Thanks (thanks Cheapy too).



One new thing I noticed (at least I think it's new, correct me if I'm wrong) - most people who have the camera are probably familiar with how the dashboard sort of put up a "watery" image of what the camera is viewing as a transparent overlay. Well, I just noticed if you go to "change theme," there is a new menu to the right of the main theme selection that lets you pick a few different camera effects. One is the "watery" one that current dash users see. There is also a "dotty" one that basically puts a large set of pulsating pixels up instead, as well as an "edgy" one that sort of gives it a splotchy/grainy effect...makes the outlines of objects really bold. You can also select to turn the effects off completely.

The watery one is probably the least intrusive. The dotty one is pretty pointless to me, looks crappy. The edgy one is actually cool but it's almost too bold, it really changes the look of your dash.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']Yeah, just went on the newsgroup discussion about NXE and saw that. Thanks (thanks Cheapy too).



One new thing I noticed (at least I think it's new, correct me if I'm wrong) - most people who have the camera are probably familiar with how the dashboard sort of put up a "watery" image of what the camera is viewing as a transparent overlay. Well, I just noticed if you go to "change theme," there is a new menu to the right of the main theme selection that lets you pick a few different camera effects. One is the "watery" one that current dash users see. There is also a "dotty" one that basically puts a large set of pulsating pixels up instead, as well as an "edgy" one that sort of gives it a splotchy/grainy effect...makes the outlines of objects really bold. You can also select to turn the effects off completely.

The watery one is probably the least intrusive. The dotty one is pretty pointless to me, looks crappy. The edgy one is actually cool but it's almost too bold, it really changes the look of your dash.[/QUOTE]
Those have been there. They are on the old dash.
 
[quote name='xbox_mole']Well if you just choose to play the game it's going to play the game from the disc and be louder. If you chose to play from the hard drive it spins the disc shortly when the title loads to confirm that you own the title and then stops spinning the disc and plays entirely from the HD.[/quote]

Hmm thats strange though. I figure they would be smart and it would auto detect whether the game was installed and just play it from the hard drive no matter which option you picked. Seems like an extra step they added in for no reason.
 
[quote name='orbit18']Hmm thats strange though. I figure they would be smart and it would auto detect whether the game was installed and just play it from the hard drive no matter which option you picked. Seems like an extra step they added in for no reason.[/quote]

Yeah, it does auto-detect if it's on the HDD or not. It's not going to run it off the disc if you've already got it installed on the hard drive.

Unless my version of the new dash is different than others', I'd say there must have been some kind of problem with the installation.
 
[quote name='Jesse_Dylan']Yeah, it does auto-detect if it's on the HDD or not. It's not going to run it off the disc if you've already got it installed on the hard drive.

Unless my version of the new dash is different than others', I'd say there must have been some kind of problem with the installation.[/quote]

Mine is the same as yours, although some games crank up the internal fan, like Gears of War 2, so it sounds like it's playing from disc.
 
If it doesn't play quietly, what's the point of installing it? And don't give me this disc drive wear and tear nonsense, as HDD wear and tear becomes its' replacement.
 
[quote name='KingBroly']If it doesn't play quietly, what's the point of installing it? And don't give me this disc drive wear and tear nonsense, as HDD wear and tear becomes its' replacement.[/quote]

Difference is, there hasn't been widespread issues with the 360 hard drives. Earlier 360 optical drives were trash. So, it's still important factor. Also, load times are still a benefit from hard drive installs.
 
[quote name='KingBroly']If it doesn't play quietly, what's the point of installing it? And don't give me this disc drive wear and tear nonsense, as HDD wear and tear becomes its' replacement.[/quote]
Seriously, just stop posting if you're going to bitch and complain so much. There's nothing you can do to stop this update aside from not connecting to live starting Nov. 19th so just get over it. You don't have to use the feature, move on.
 
Right, there's no one forcing the install feature upon anyone. It's totally optional, and I'm grateful that they throw it out there for nerds like me. I love it, personally, because it solves the problem of my ailing optical drive and the noise. If the cooling fan has to turn on, I can definitely handle that. Much rather listen to a fan than a grinding optical drive. It improves load times pretty drastically (especially considering my load times were a little more than normal with my drive skipping).

I never seem to have drive trouble installing, and running off the hard drive is fantastic.

I'm certainly not letting MS off the hook for selling me a janky system, or for their high prices on HDDs, but there's really nothing I can do about those things besides make sardonic comments, and this is a good solution (until the video shorts out or something--I'm getting blue bars across the screen that scroll up, only really visible when the screen is particularly dark... at least when it red rings, I'll still have Fallout 3 on PC, or whatever else, and my new Christmas PS3 [sold my soul to Wal-mart on the 8th] to keep me more than busy, and if my warranty is out by then, I'll buy an Arcade unit and strap my 120gb HDD to it and grouse rancorously into the next console generation about my travails).

Sorry, having a little gin before bed. Makes me garrulous and haphazardly punctuative.
 
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[quote name='KingBroly']If it doesn't play quietly, what's the point of installing it? And don't give me this disc drive wear and tear nonsense, as HDD wear and tear becomes its' replacement.[/quote]


umm, it plays quieter than with the disc drive spinning. are you ret...nevermind.
 
So what exactly is the benefit of installing to the HDD in regards to online? Like in Battlefield, for example, will you get into the game faster than disc loaders? As if getting to the choppers and artillery were not hard enough...
 
[quote name='crunchb3rry']So what exactly is the benefit of installing to the HDD in regards to online? Like in Battlefield, for example, will you get into the game faster than disc loaders? As if getting to the choppers and artillery were not hard enough...[/quote]
Online games still wait for EVERYONE to load before the game starts, so i don't think we'll be seeing actual advantages gameplay wise.
 
Has anyone tried out the party system with games that don't have a party system implemented into them? This feature seems like the most questionable feature in the new dash to me in terms of where it drops you (ranked/unranked/public/private and what options your given for those games (maps/times/rounds), etc.
 
AFAIK, the party system is basically just 8 player private voice chat with a menu option to send mass invites to all the people in your party.
 
So I see you can copy games from the disc to the HDD with the new NXE. Whats to prevent us from renting from Blockbuster, and copying the game? This is funny to me, because a lot of people are gonna stop buying games and just rent/copy to HDD. Seven dollars for new releases? Not bad!
 
So I see you can copy games from the disc to the HDD with the new NXE. Whats to prevent us from renting from Blockbuster, and copying the game? This is funny to me, because a lot of people are gonna stop buying games and just rent/copy to HDD. Seven dollars for new releases? Not bad!
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As soon as NXE is available on November 17 you should copy all your games to your hard drive and then take them to your local EBGames and trade them in immediately before the trade in values completely plummet. Better yet, download the bootleg version now, and do all the copying today. Then tonight you can get the best trade in values possible. Act now! Your trade in values will only suffer the longer you wait.
 
[quote name='Zyzomys']As soon as NXE is available on November 17 you should copy all your games to your hard drive and then take them to your local EBGames and trade them in immediately before the trade in values completely plummet. Better yet, download the bootleg version now, and do all the copying today. Then tonight you can get the best trade in values possible. Act now! Your trade in values will only suffer the longer you wait.[/quote]
:lol:
 
[quote name='GamerDaddy85']So I see you can copy games from the disc to the HDD with the new NXE. Whats to prevent us from renting from Blockbuster, and copying the game? This is funny to me, because a lot of people are gonna stop buying games and just rent/copy to HDD. Seven dollars for new releases? Not bad![/quote]

You still need to put the disc into the drive, in order to verify that you own the game.
 
Shhh! Some lessons in life need to be learned the hard way! Personally I am looking forward to all the posts following November 17 with people complaining that the NXE broke their Xbox 360s and that their games will no longer play.
 
[quote name='Zyzomys']As soon as NXE is available on November 17 you should copy all your games to your hard drive and then take them to your local EBGames and trade them in immediately before the trade in values completely plummet. Better yet, download the bootleg version now, and do all the copying today. Then tonight you can get the best trade in values possible. Act now! Your trade in values will only suffer the longer you wait.[/QUOTE]

Well the poor kids first, but not last, confusion would arise on the 17th when the update didn't happen. Because it happens on the 19th.
 
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