NHL playoffs looming

Wow! That Ottawa/Tampa Bay game was pretty crazy last night! I wish I hadn't turned it off to watch a movie before the 3rd period. I'll know better for next game.
 
The Red Wings are looking horrible....cannot beat the trap. I only watched the 1st period last night, but Legace is a bit shaky. He can make a great save, but let in a wrap-around...NO ONE should give up a wrap around.
 
[quote name='shieryda']Wow! That Ottawa/Tampa Bay game was pretty crazy last night! I wish I hadn't turned it off to watch a movie before the 3rd period. I'll know better for next game.[/QUOTE]

That game was flat out ugly. Wow.

That puck off of Sydor's glove (when it wasn't even on net) is the definition of things not going your way in a game.

The officials didn't even fix the broken goal toward the end, they just wanted the game to be over.
 
[quote name='Maynard']no offense or anything, but they are #1 in the league so people tend to think sorta HIGHLY of them. lol :D[/QUOTE]
they're a good team, but they're still overrated. my original prediction for the series:
[quote name='darkmere']now for the west:

1 - detroit vs 8 - edmonton

i'm gonna take flak for this one, but i'm picking edmonton as the cinderella team this year. detroit is good, but they played in perhaps the easiest division. 24 of their games (over 1/4 of the season) were against columbus, chicago, and st. louis. the central division, aside from detroit and nashville, is a joke. the northwest division was tough, with 5 teams that were in it till the last week. edmonton is younger, healthier, and is one of the best skating teams. it's going to be a tough series.

edmonton in 7.
*side note, yzerman will retire after the playoffs are over. detroit would be wise to offer him some kind of job such as assistant coach where his leadership, his best asset, will continue to help the team. there are 29 other nhl teams that could benefit from his leadership and he'll get offers, but he's a career redwing.[/QUOTE]
edmonton came from a tougher division. half of detroit is old, slow, and banged up. they'll be lucky to make it to the next round. there were too many plays in last nite's game that redwing players just seemed to give up on before there was a whistle. if legace hadn't given up during the second overtime maybe detroit would have the 2-1 series lead. i still think this series is likely to go to 6 or 7, but if detroit doesn't win thursday on the road it's as good as over.
 
[quote name='Doylerulez']I figured Ottawa would get a blowout win, but I didn't think they'd do it on the road.

I am really enjoying the fact that I get CBC, but it's not a surprise Canada's coverage has been better than OLN, and Don Cherry is crazy.[/QUOTE]


fuck you, fuck the Sabres, and fuck that sig. That hit was dirty shit.
 
[quote name='jPoD']fuck you, fuck the Sabres, and fuck that sig. That hit was dirty shit.[/quote]

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[quote name='jPoD']fuck you, fuck the Sabres, and fuck that sig. That hit was dirty shit.[/quote]

As a huge Flyers fan, I have to agree with you in the aspect of fuck that sig and fuck him. But as much as I hate to admit it, that hit was entirely clean, Umberger was paying attention to the puck and got leveled. I hated watching it, and I definitely hate the Buffalo Sabres and their fucked up arena that decided to keep airing the hit over and over like it was something to be proud of. You don't do that kind of shit when a player is seriously hurt. Made my opinion of Buffalo sink lower than the pricks in Philly who cheered when Michael Irvin was hurt.
 
[quote name='karsh']As a huge Flyers fan, I have to agree with you in the aspect of fuck that sig and fuck him. But as much as I hate to admit it, that hit was entirely clean, Umberger was paying attention to the puck and got leveled.[/QUOTE]
looks like a clean hit to me. didn't see it when it happened, but judging from the sig he could have seen it coming if he looked up. he had possession of the puck and was hit from in front, and the hitter doesn't appear to have intentionally charged or left his feet before the hit. it's a fast, hard, physical game...injuries are bound to happen. brilliant careers have come to premature ends due to accidents and injuries.
 
The hits that I hate to see are those when a player is skating full force down the ice to touch a puck for an icing call, and some dickhead charges him from behind. Those hits are worse than clean, open ice hits by far. The NHL was stupid to not change the icing rule to "no touch" this season.
 
"but the touch icing rule means more chances for offense and less stoppage in the play."

yeah, i gotta agree with you shieryda...one of these days there will be a major injury like a career ending concussion from a follow-through hit on a player just after the icing whistle is blown. the nhl will regret such an accident if the rule isn't changed first. all this because 2 and a half hours is too long for a game to last. screw that, football games routinely last 3-4 hours and people still watch it. the game duration wouldn't be greatly affected, especially now that the center red line has been eliminated for passing.
 
I wish I had TSN and CBC in Boston. I don't even have OLN.

Comcast is streaming one game every day, usually the game that isn't national on OLN. Anyone can watch it, its the only playoff hockey I've gotten to see outside of NBC. You don't have to be a Comcast customer to use it.

http://www.comcast.net/sports/nhl/hockeylive/?cvqs=hockey_landpge


About touch icing, Bob Carpenter in the early 90s had an almost career ending injury to his knee in a race to the puck on an icing call. He went from a 50 goal scorer to a checking center.

I still wouldn't change the rule, though. You're really not supposed to hit people on an icing call, the players know when its icing. I've seen how icing is in the college game, I don't like it.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']About touch icing, Bob Carpenter in the early 90s had an almost career ending injury to his knee in a race to the puck on an icing call. He went from a 50 goal scorer to a checking center.

I still wouldn't change the rule, though. You're really not supposed to hit people on an icing call, the players know when its icing. I've seen how icing is in the college game, I don't like it.[/quote]

Sure, you're not supposed to, but players still do it. They don't even get penalized for it, unless they leave the ice surface. I cringe every time I see a player racing to touch the puck with a player of the opposite team hot on his heels because I know he's gonna get drilled.

I watched the first 2 periods of the Colorado/Dallas game last night, but got too sleepy to stay up for the 3rd. I won't be missing any games tonight, though. I wonder if the hostilities in the Ottawa/Tampa Bay series will continue in their game tonight...
 
Heck I didn't even know anyone here was talking NHL. Nice to see you all.

The Wings have been outworked and outskated for the majority of the first three games. Legace has played well except for the Smyth wrap around(terrible goal to let in) and the 2ot winner in game game3. My gosh what was he thinking turning his back to the play. Also someone page Shanahan and Datsyuk because I don't think I've seen either one of them show up on the ice yet. All in all I credit the Oilers. They've played better so far. Even with the last couple years playoff debacles I don't get too worried until they are playing in an elimiation game.

The Sens/Bolts series has been great so far as well.
 
[quote name='shieryda']Brodeur for MVP of the playoffs:

GAA - 0.67
Save % - .975[/QUOTE]

The Rangers are a powderpuff team, too soft in goal, no strength in their D, and with Jagr hurting, little offense to work with. Devils in 4 here, easily.

Other series; I think ZL called me an idiot for picking the Oilers, but they sure do look solid so far. I hate the Sens, but this is their cup year, so if they don't win it this time, they won't be back for a while.

Calgary is definitely underrated, if the goals don't dry up they'll be very successful.
 
[quote name='shieryda']Brodeur for MVP of the playoffs:

GAA - 0.67
Save % - .975[/QUOTE]
too early to call the conn smythe, but if the devils win the cup he has my vote. best goaltender ever...if i had a dreamteam, he'd be in net.
[quote name='Mike23']The Rangers are a powderpuff team, too soft in goal, no strength in their D, and with Jagr hurting, little offense to work with. Devils in 4 here, easily.

Other series; I think ZL called me an idiot for picking the Oilers, but they sure do look solid so far. I hate the Sens, but this is their cup year, so if they don't win it this time, they won't be back for a while.

Calgary is definitely underrated, if the goals don't dry up they'll be very successful.[/QUOTE]
:applause:
good to see someone else that sees the true weakness of the rangers, though i think lundvist is as solid as rookies come in net and should only get better in the years to come. the kid won a gold medal 2 months ago against the best players in the world.

i too picked the oilers. the redwings have some veterans to start replacing in the offseason. most overrated team in the new nhl (they would have been a real threat in the old system, but so would pittsburgh. it's a young man's game now.)

calgary has cup threat written all over them. they're fast, they're tough, and everyone contributes on o and d. i could see brodeur winning the vezina while kiprusoff takes the conn smythe.

too many good teams to see a clear cut cup winner yet. length of series and injuries will play a HUGE factor (see jagr, sweep)
 
While you keep on saying they're overrated, THEY WERE #1 IN THE LEAGUE WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? If they were like the 5th seed or something, sure, your argument would make sense. Right now you sound like your babbling while your head is crooked and drooling.
 
[quote name='TC']Heck I didn't even know anyone here was talking NHL. Nice to see you all.

The Wings have been outworked and outskated for the majority of the first three games. Legace has played well except for the Smyth wrap around(terrible goal to let in) and the 2ot winner in game game3. My gosh what was he thinking turning his back to the play. Also someone page Shanahan and Datsyuk because I don't think I've seen either one of them show up on the ice yet. All in all I credit the Oilers. They've played better so far. Even with the last couple years playoff debacles I don't get too worried until they are playing in an elimiation game.

The Sens/Bolts series has been great so far as well.[/QUOTE]

The surprise on the Oilers for me has to be Chris Pronger. I grew up a Blues fan and rooted for them until we got our own team here in Columbus. I always dug Pronger's skill and physical presence, but he frustrated the hell out of me by taking boneheaded penalties - especially in the playoffs.

He's managed to be not only relevant in the face of the new stricter NHL, but has been a huge factor on the ice and has managed to stay out of the penalty box.

But yeah, I agree with you. I'm very impressed by the hustle and heart the Oilers are showing.
 
Pronger has been the Oilers best player. In fact he's been the best player in the series. Someone needs to tell Dan Cleary that its not a good idea to take a run at big Chris Haha. That hit was sweet, but Cleary impressed me by getting right back up and quickly back checking on the same play. Only Henrick Zetterberg has come close to matching Pronger's play. Zetts is a relentless player. All season long I've watched him and he never seems to give up on a play.

It was so odd not seeing the Blues in the playoffs this year. Those have been some great series over the years. Al McInnis making me nervous every time he cranked up that killer point shot. I still remember jumping off the couch when Yzerman beat Casey in game seven triple ot years ago.
 
I think Edmonton will likely take it Monday, but I think that Detroit still has a chance. Edmonton's entire strategy is to gunk up the zone in order to prevent the Red Wings from having the time to set up their typically deadly plays. If you watch whenever a Red Wing recovers the puck around their blue line, Edmonton tends to hold back and allow that player a little time to come into the zone, then pressuring them to the outside and force to dump the puck, which usually ends up on the stick of an Oiler. This means the Wings typically end up with low-quality shots that a blind cripple could stop. Edmonton , with all of its players kinda bundled together, can then get the puck and charge towards the goal to set up awesome shots.

Basically, the Wings are falling for this trap too often, and should instead wait until then can get a 3-3, 4-3 play before going into the zone.
 
is it just me or have the playoffs been full of controversial goals/no goals? should schaefer's goal have counted? does it matter, as ottawa scored seconds later anyway?
 
The Sharks looked really good last night (and pretty much the entire series).

Second round is going to have some killer match-ups.
 
[quote name='darkmere']is it just me or have the playoffs been full of controversial goals/no goals? should schaefer's goal have counted? does it matter, as ottawa scored seconds later anyway?[/quote]

There have been a few, but there have also been some no-calls on blatant penalties, too. Some of these games may have had a different outcome had the refs called all the penalties fairly.
 
bye detroit...edmonton advances to round 2

battle of alberta will be one to watch in round 2 if calgary wins their series.
 
:roll: Is it sad when you're not really even that disappointed when the Wings bomb in the playoffs again? I guess I'm satisfied with the President's Trophy over the Stanley Cup since I know they're not gonna win it. Ah well.

Probably doesn't help that I watched zero games this season. Way to go with that lockout guys, you really helped your sport.
 
Go Sharks! I know nothing about hockey, I don't watch it, but it's awesome that they won. Stanley Cup here we come.
 
Well the Wings third period of game 6 was just a window into the entire series. They got out played and had some horrible defensive breakdowns. The Oilers worked their asses off and came out on top.

We'll have to see what happens with Stevie. I've grown up watching him and is my all time favorite athlete.
 
[quote name='TC']We'll have to see what happens with Stevie. I've grown up watching him and is my all time favorite athlete.[/QUOTE]
dude was classy till the end...i thought it was a bad choice and a snub not to put him on the ice for the last face off. even though i hate the redwings, i was sad to see what may have been his final game. if the redwings are smart they'll offer him a front office or assistant coaching position.
 
That was the most pathetic fucking example of fucking hockey ever. Words cannot express my sever anger towards the detroit red wings right now.
 
[quote name='darkmere']dude was classy till the end...i thought it was a bad choice and a snub not to put him on the ice for the last face off. even though i hate the redwings, i was sad to see what may have been his final game. if the redwings are smart they'll offer him a front office or assistant coaching position.[/QUOTE]

Oh I'm pretty sure he's already been offered a job for life from Mr. Illitch. Stevie is a walking legend here. Who knows he might be back on the ice. He's actually played his best hockey in the last 3 years these last couple months. Hell my home office is painted red/white in honor of the Wings and Steve.
 
[quote name='darkmere']another controversial no goal...selanne's goal called off due to lupul's goaltender interference.[/QUOTE]

Selanne was flatout robbed by the ref.

That being said. I'm hoping for a Battle of Alberta
 
guess that disallowed goal didn't matter anyway. i think the flames will win game 7. judging by tonite there's sure to be some fights.
 
The refs screwed the Wings again.....what a horseshit third goal. The Wings do NOT deserve to win, but they do not deserve to lose on a call like that.

First, the Edmonton player cleary hit the puck with a HIGH-STICK, then Hemsky CLEARLY made a kicking motion to kick the puck in the net. The refs blew TWO calls on one play.

As I said, the Wings did not deserve to win.....but that call was a mess.
 
[quote name='doubledown']The refs screwed the Wings again.....what a horseshit third goal. The Wings do NOT deserve to win, but they do not deserve to lose on a call like that.

First, the Edmonton player cleary hit the puck with a HIGH-STICK, then Hemsky CLEARLY made a kicking motion to kick the puck in the net. The refs blew TWO calls on one play.

As I said, the Wings did not deserve to win.....but that call was a mess.[/QUOTE]

There was no kicking motion. Lidstrom pushed him in and the puck dribbled off the Edmonton player's body, off his foot, and into the goal. I repeat: THERE WAS NO KICKING MOTION.

Also, the high stick is meaningless, as it wasn't called.

fucking Jason Williams. I will say this right now: his penalty pretty much handed the game to Edmonton. It was completely uncessary and gave Edmonton the boost in momentum they so desperately needed. I mean, shit, the Red Wings were playing GREAT the first two periods. They were playing how they should have played in the previous 5 games. If it wasn't for Rohloson (sp?), the game would have been 5-0 Detroit going into the third period.

I feel really bad for Legace. Being the golaie in Detroit is one of the hardest things in the world, since we expect you to be amazing every single year. He's a great goaltender who was great in the regular season (look at his record) and I really hope he stays on....as a backup. We need a goaltender that can win in the playoffs, plain and simple, and Legace, obviously, isn't that guy.

Of course, the Wings' shitty play didn't help anything. I blame this all on Babcock, though. The Wings had to go down 3-2 before he realized that their play style wasn't working. Stupid fuck.

Also, the Wings need a new grind line.
 
[quote name='evanft']
I feel really bad for Legace. Being the golaie in Detroit is one of the hardest things in the world, since we expect you to be amazing every single year. He's a great goaltender who was great in the regular season (look at his record) and I really hope he stays on....as a backup. We need a goaltender that can win in the playoffs, plain and simple, and Legace, obviously, isn't that guy.
[/QUOTE]
That's why they've sucked in the playoffs... they keep throwing someone new in there. Did it work picking up CuJo for the playoffs? Ha. Maybe if they'd have some patience (the fans will love the team anyway), Legace could get back to the playoffs with a full year of starting regular-season/playoff goaltending experience and be better.
 
My only hope is that Theodore can pick up his gameplay for the next round. He looked pretty horrible in the first couple of games vs. Dallas, giving up some real soft goals. The verdict is still out (at least with me) on that trade with Montreal...
 
[quote name='darkmere']guess that disallowed goal didn't matter anyway. i think the flames will win game 7. judging by tonite there's sure to be some fights.[/QUOTE]

That called off goal on Selanne was really bad. If Calgary did win that game there would have been a lot of controversy over it. Of course they wouldn't make things easier for us fans and would have to take it to 7.

The Flames are definitely going to play a different game in game 7. It is going to be an intense game. Hopefully they take it. Should be a good one.
 
There was a kicking motion from Hemsky....they showed the replay 30 times. It wasn't an obvious kicking motion, but when he was pushed his skate clearly went in a kicking motion. I can accept them not saying it was though, as it was borderline. Legace and our defense sucked ass anyways.
 
[quote name='doubledown']Legace and our defense sucked ass anyways.[/QUOTE]

The defense made some mistakes in that series that made me want to puke. That being said. I've always wanted to see Manny get his shot at #1 and was very happy when he did. Problem is he only made one or two really great saves the entire series. A cup winning goalie has to a steal a game every once in a while and he didn't do that. The Oilers were the ones that caused those plays and came out on top.

The Wings could look quite different next year. Detroit only has the following players under contract for next season. Henrik Zetterberg, Pavel Datsyuk, Mikeal Samuelsson, Johan Franzen, Kris Draper, Kirk Maltby, Tomas Holmstrom, Mathieu Schneider, Nick Kronwall, Brett Lebda, Jimmy Howard & Jiri Fischer.
Thats it
 
The funny thing about that Edmonton goal was the guy in booth that had to plug his ears when they announced it was good, since the fans went berzerk.

And yeah, Yzerman is pure class (and played well). I suspect if he steps down it's more because of conditioning than skill, like Gretz.
 
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