Ni No Kuni out January 22, 2013

[quote name='Rodimus']For me it's not about the trophies. Why not give me these missions before the end of the game? Once I beat a game I just feel exhausted with it, especially one that took me over 50+ hours to beat. I've completed the ultimate goal, defeated the hardest enemy. I see little point in getting the best weapons, familiars, or finding new treasures.

Don't get me wrong I loved the game. Best JRPG I played in a while. It's just after I loaded up the after game save file I just didn't care anymore.[/QUOTE]

I'm with Rodimus here. Like the Conductor quests... parts of it were fun, but a lot of was backtracking to the same places (how many fucking times did I go up Old Smokey?!) and the reward was incredibly fun for a few minutes it but completely pointless by that point in time because you had a lot better modes of transportation.

Also io, if you don't think going through random battles over and over again just to catch a monster isn't overly repetitive or tedious, you must have the patience of Buddha himself. Some of those catch percentages are fucking ridiculous (6%? fuck that). Someone could catch a monster in his/her first try whereas it could take another person over a hour based simply due to chance. And lets not ignore item farming, which is probably equally tedious.

I don't mind doing some work and if the trophies are a challenge. Like Batman Arkham City was challenging (the Riddler puzzles and challenge maps) and took some work (the collecting). But designing trophies based on chance isn't either, that's just lazy/poor design.
 
[quote name='Rodimus']For me it's not about the trophies. Why not give me these missions before the end of the game? Once I beat a game I just feel exhausted with it, especially one that took me over 50+ hours to beat. I've completed the ultimate goal, defeated the hardest enemy. I see little point in getting the best weapons, familiars, or finding new treasures.

Don't get me wrong I loved the game. Best JRPG I played in a while. It's just after I loaded up the after game save file I just didn't care anymore.[/QUOTE]

While I believe I will also choose not to do a lot of the post game stuff, I don't see the big deal about having them available. There is no point to it if you're not interested, but for those that want to continue playing, it gives them something to do. Obviously, the missions and such aren't needed to beat the game, they are there for people that want to extend their experience. As such, it doesn't really bother me.
 
You're right. I'm just being your typical jaded gamer. Overall I loved the, guess I should focus on that rather than bitch about extra stuff.
 
[quote name='Rodimus']Is there any point in doing the post side missions? it's pointless.

Give me substance not substitute.[/QUOTE]
For me, I like endgame activities but ONLY if they provide challenge. Sadly, the devs just added more of the same without ramping up the difficulty. Batman does come to mind for the challenge modes and something to improve your skill at because once you finally beat the Shock and Awe stage on the hardest setting, you feel accomplished like the old NES days beating Contra or Ghosts and Goblins.

So to answer your question, they're not worth doing in this game. The final reward is pretty amazing, but you'll never use it for more than five minutes before turning the game off for good.
 
For those that got the platinum trophy do you actual have to catch every enemy or is metamorphing a 1st form to its final form counts towards the trophy? Im tired if grinding tryinv to tame each enemy
 
I wonder if on "easy" the percentages for getting familiars is relaxed somewhat. My wife was playing today, and in her short time playing, she was able to tame two Sunshines. I remember it took me a while to get a Sunshine. In any case, she seemed to be having an easier time of it getting some of those familiars.
 
[quote name='CAGkrazy']For those that got the platinum trophy do you actual have to catch every enemy or is metamorphing a 1st form to its final form counts towards the trophy? Im tired if grinding tryinv to tame each enemy[/QUOTE]

Morphing works. I went to low level areas, and got 2 of each first form familiar where I didn't have the 3rd form charmed. They level up super fast with Tokos, and you can pick both 3rd forms if you catch 2. Casino is an easy way for Jumbo drops if you run out of crystals.

Familiar trophy was easy, since I got a ton of charm while playing through the game. I leveled those up and found I was only missing a handful for the trophy. Which was easily fixed with a low level Byrd or Rhino.

The alchemy trophy is the killer here. You'll want to spam mugshot on certain mobs (guide or gamefaqs time) to fill out the alchemy completed list. A lot of the recipes are a pain, but I skipped the ones with super rare gold familiar only drops, 'cept the Alchemy quest in cave itself.
 
Despite my previous bitching I did go through and do most of the post-game quests. Namely the Conductor quest which I'm glad I did. It does cast a little more light on Oliver's back story so it's not just a pointless busy quest. The only one I didnt do was the alchemy stuff. I started it but way to tedious and boring. Besides I was 80 hours into the game so I think I had enough at that point.
 
[quote name='Rodimus']Despite my previous bitching I did go through and do most of the post-game quests. Namely the Conductor quest which I'm glad I did. It does cast a little more light on Oliver's back story so it's not just a pointless busy quest. The only one I didnt do was the alchemy stuff. I started it but way to tedious and boring. Besides I was 80 hours into the game so I think I had enough at that point.[/QUOTE]

Mmm i just finished the game clocking in 50hours. Got bored leveling at ivory tower i decided to just finish the game to see the ending. Ill probably try the post game content sometime next month. Wil be playing tomb raider now!
 
Anyone have any tips on how to stop running out of mana all the time? Is there a way to tell the AI to use items to heal instead of magic? I'm getting really annoyed with the battle system because of this.
 
[quote name='Sinfulfate']Anyone have any tips on how to stop running out of mana all the time? Is there a way to tell the AI to use items to heal instead of magic? I'm getting really annoyed with the battle system because of this.[/QUOTE]

I asked a similar question a couple of weeks ago, and the advice I got worked:

Set your companions to "don't use abilities" and then prioritize familiars that use physical attacks. Oliver's heal touch is enough to keep everyone in the fight and you should be fine so long as you stay properly leveled throughout the game. I just finished the game in 46 hours using this set-up and the game was a breeze.
 
[quote name='coolz481']I asked a similar question a couple of weeks ago, and the advice I got worked:

Set your companions to "don't use abilities" and then prioritize familiars that use physical attacks. Oliver's heal touch is enough to keep everyone in the fight and you should be fine so long as you stay properly leveled throughout the game. I just finished the game in 46 hours using this set-up and the game was a breeze.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I'll give that a try.
 
[quote name='Sinfulfate']Thanks. I'll give that a try.[/QUOTE]

Worked for me as well. Just change tactics if you get in a bind or for boss battles.
 
Finally beat this last night. Now I'm trying to decide if I want to do the post-game stuff or move on to another rpg in my backlog.

I really enjoyed the game though.
 
I'm only 20hrs in (kids) but the txt sounds and the opening chest/finding stuff sounds, and general gameplay remind me so much of DQ. That's a good thing. Love this game!
 
I beat the game. The fact that the post game content happens BEFORE the end of the game pisses me off. I hate it when they do that. I beat the game and I want people groveling at my feet when I talk to them. I'm not going to return to a time before the game was completed and do some fucking fetch quests. Put optional stuff BEFORE the end of the game or AFTER the story. Don't put this shit after the end of the game but before the end of the story. Worst way to do post game content that I can think of (aside from forcing you to play through a game a second time to get the "real" ending).
 
[quote name='Blaster man']I beat the game. The fact that the post game content happens BEFORE the end of the game pisses me off. I hate it when they do that. I beat the game and I want people groveling at my feet when I talk to them. I'm not going to return to a time before the game was completed and do some fucking fetch quests. Put optional stuff BEFORE the end of the game or AFTER the story. Don't put this shit after the end of the game but before the end of the story. Worst way to do post game content that I can think of (aside from forcing you to play through a game a second time to get the "real" ending).[/QUOTE]

The problem with doing it after the story is that Oliver goes home after the story. Then there is the issue if you wanted to collect the familiars in the White Witch's tower.

Personally, I don't care. Finished the game last night and really enjoyed it, tho having to replay the last boss fights a few times because I kept getting killed. I'll continue to play and maybe try to platinum it. Depends if I get bored.
 
[quote name='TheLongshot']The problem with doing it after the story is that Oliver goes home after the story. Then there is the issue if you wanted to collect the familiars in the White Witch's tower.

Personally, I don't care. Finished the game last night and really enjoyed it, tho having to replay the last boss fights a few times because I kept getting killed. I'll continue to play and maybe try to platinum it. Depends if I get bored.[/QUOTE]

Well the White Witches tower should still be there, it didn't explode or anything. Now the tower that Shadar was in...

I see nothing wrong with doing it post game. If they REALLY don't want to do that then just unlock it all before the final battle. It's not like you couldn't grind and beat her easily if you wanted to anyway. And like you, I lost a couple of times. It took me 3 tries to beat her. Afterwards when that message appeared on screen, it was a bit of a disappointment and I turned the game off.
 
[quote name='highoffcoffee496']I'm just curious; I just collected the 3 stones (but I still have to make them fit into the wand) Am I almost done with the game?[/QUOTE]

You've still got a few dungeons left to do. You're close but have some important stuff left to do. I'd say you're 10-15 hrs from the end. A couple of narrative things happen in areas you've previously been to that are going to take a while. Also a bunch more side quests will show up. Make sure you get the 8 card reward to unlock oliver's true potential. It's an extra 100 HP and 100 MP. Those extra magic points help a lot with expensive spells towards the end.
 
[quote name='Blaster man']You've still got a few dungeons left to do. You're close but have some important stuff left to do. I'd say you're 10-15 hrs from the end. A couple of narrative things happen in areas you've previously been to that are going to take a while. Also a bunch more side quests will show up. Make sure you get the 8 card reward to unlock oliver's true potential. It's an extra 100 HP and 100 MP. Those extra magic points help a lot with expensive spells towards the end.[/QUOTE]

Thanks!!! :) The game has been amazing so far imo I can't wait to see how it ends:bouncy:
 
Finally platted this last night now for it to sit on my shelf it's nice steelbook. Overall it was a pretty good game better than Tales of Graces by miles but I still enjoyed FF more. I liked the Pokemon/ Persona aspect of the game
 
[quote name='finsfan0210']Just wondering if a sequel to this game is possible.[/QUOTE]

Namco said they would consider a sequel if sales were good in the west. It was the 11th best selling game of January in NA, which is great, given it was released Jan 22 and all of the games ahead of it were established IPs and/or multi-platform titles.

There's probably a good chance they'll make a sequel, but it's hard to say for what system.
 
I am at the save point right outside the
White Witch's throne room
. I cannot wait to finally finish off the bitch. It's been a great game and I think I may stick around for some of the post game content. After beating the game, can all the previous areas still be accessed?
 
[quote name='Yanksfan']I am at the save point right outside the
White Witch's throne room
. I cannot wait to finally finish off the bitch. It's been a great game and I think I may stick around for some of the post game content. After beating the game, can all the previous areas still be accessed?[/QUOTE]

Yes, with the exception of
the Miasma Marshes and Nevermore
but those open back up with new bounties.
 
[quote name='Yanksfan']I am at the save point right outside the
White Witch's throne room
. I cannot wait to finally finish off the bitch. It's been a great game and I think I may stick around for some of the post game content. After beating the game, can all the previous areas still be accessed?[/QUOTE]

Make sure you get the Astra spell from Horace prior to fighting her. It will help as its AOE.
 
[quote name='Blaster man']Make sure you get the Astra spell from Horace prior to fighting her. It will help as its AOE.[/QUOTE]

Where is Horace hanging out? I haven't seen him since Hamelin.
 
[quote name='TheLongshot']Where is Horace hanging out? I haven't seen him since Hamelin.[/QUOTE]

I believe he is in every city as you progress throughout the game. If you missed him in one city go back and look for him
 
[quote name='TheLongshot']Where is Horace hanging out? I haven't seen him since Hamelin.[/QUOTE]

Just google a Horace guide. That would be the easiest way to do it. He is indeed in every town. In order.
 
[quote name='typical guy']Just google a Horace guide. That would be the easiest way to do it. He is indeed in every town. In order.[/QUOTE]

Gotta watch out for those guides, they give the riddle answers.
 
Can someone help me? But this may be too specific of a question so I dunno...
I'm trying to catch a Aurora lynx. I'm in Billy Goat's Bluff (North) area and these are part of a bounty quest. There are four of them total every time I reload to face them.
So question: can I catch one of them even if they are part of a bounty mission? If so, I've been trying for over an hour so what gives? lol

EDIT: I gave up my quest for a bit and caught a Tokotoko by pure luck. I'm fairly newbish when it comes to this game but isn't this familiar supposed to be rare? Are there benefits to raising it? All I know about it is that when I battle against them I level up a lot faster
 
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[quote name='typical guy']Just google a Horace guide. That would be the easiest way to do it. He is indeed in every town. In order.[/QUOTE]

Well, I had missed him in Castaway Cove when I was there and only found him later when I got the quest for the guy who keeps losing his book, so I'm catching up.

I thought the next town after Hamelin was Perdidia, but he doesn't seem to be there.

So question: can I catch one of them even if they are part of a bounty mission? If so, I've been trying for over an hour so what gives? lol
No, you can't catch creatures during bounty missions, or at least I never had the option to capture during a bounty mission.
 
[quote name='highoffcoffee496']Can someone help me? But this may be too specific of a question so I dunno...
I'm trying to catch a Aurora lynx. I'm in Billy Goat's Bluff (North) area and these are part of a bounty quest. There are four of them total every time I reload to face them.
So question: can I catch one of them even if they are part of a bounty mission? If so, I've been trying for over an hour so what gives? lol

EDIT: I gave up my quest for a bit and caught a Tokotoko by pure luck. I'm fairly newbish when it comes to this game but isn't this familiar supposed to be rare? Are there benefits to raising it? All I know about it is that when I battle against them I level up a lot faster[/QUOTE]

One of their evolutions becomes great healer, and the Toko line has the highest evasion in the game. However, they take FOREVER to level up.
 
[quote name='Blaster man']Gotta watch out for those guides, they give the riddle answers.[/QUOTE]
Err, wouldn't that by definition be the point of a 'guide'? :lol:

But seriously, I was happy to have my guide book in front of me to avoid wasting time on stupid riddles. All they ever ask is you look up information in the wizard book and decipher symbols. Waste of time IMO.
 
[quote name='TheLongshot']

No, you can't catch creatures during bounty missions, or at least I never had the option to capture during a bounty mission.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='ActionKazimer']One of their evolutions becomes great healer, and the Toko line has the highest evasion in the game. However, they take FOREVER to level up.[/QUOTE]

Okay thanks everyone! :)
 
I guess the time for NNK has come and gone. I'm surprised the thread completely died out. It does seem to be one of these play it once and you're done type unfortunately.


Well, for a bit of a revival, here's my NNK collection so far:

  • US Wizard edition (photo only shows box, everything else is tucked inside)
  • GameStop steelbook
  • ALL DLC including amazon Griffy, best buy Flutterby
  • Japanese master book
  • US hardcover strategy guide
  • GameInformer issue featuring NNK
  • Six custom t-shirts



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Nice collection!

I have to say though, RPGs are usually the only games I do go back and play again. My PS2 and Wii (for Skies of Arcadia/Tales of Symphonia GC) are still hooked up for those cravings.
 
Ni No Kuni Time lol. I'm surprised I can still read Katakana heh.

I need to watch teefury more often for stuff like that.
 
I imagine I'll play it again eventually, but an RPG isn't something I could replay in a very short time period - like say, the same year. Loved the game, got the plat & it's in the running for my GOTY.
 
[quote name='ActionKazimer']That Chrono Trigger mashup is incredible. Nice collection.[/QUOTE]

Is that the blue shirt?

I like the cereal one the best. The NiNoTendo shirt looks great though. Are these custom as in you designed them or a fansite did it?
 
[quote name='Gamer SDP']Is that the blue shirt?

I like the cereal one the best. The NiNoTendo shirt looks great though. Are these custom as in you designed them or a fansite did it?[/QUOTE]

Yes, it is. Love them all, but my fav is probably the NES one.
 
Greatest Hits version was announced a few weeks ago.  Namco Bandai booth at NYCC actually had GH copies for sale at $20 so there might be a msrp drop soon.

This essential guarantees that a sequel will be in development - does not guarantee it won't be canceled however.

Also leaving this here.

http://samscoresninokuni.tumblr.com/

 
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