Nintendo 3DS - General Discussion Thread

Picked up Revelaitons with a Gamestop gift card I forgot I had. Pleased to see that there's a registration code for Club Nintendo with it. I know Sega had a game recently that did it too, but I didn't realize Capcom was getting in on the action. Really nice to see them finally having 3rd party support as an added incentive to pick up games new.
 
[quote name='007']After using it for a bit, I'm firmly a Circle Pad Pro fan...Just from RE, I can easily say that if you're planning on picking up games like RE and MGS, there's almost no reason not to drop the money on the stick...[/QUOTE]

It will also be awesome to play with Kid Icarus for left-handed controls! :bouncy:
 
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[quote name='Mr Unoriginal']I know this is a little crystal ball gazing, but I was thinking of picking up a 3DS soon. Has there been any realistic talk of a redesign any time soon? I know Nintendo always does this, but to me the buzz is not the same as the NDS so I would think the redesign might come later.[/QUOTE]

Well with the price drop to $149, I think a redesign will be sooner rather than later. Especially since the price just dropped a few months ago, the signs seem to point to a redesign (maybe soon to be revealed at E3).

The price drop will also cut into Vita sales...and that IS good ;)
 
[quote name='SKEETER']It will also be awesome to play with Kid Icarus! :bouncy:[/QUOTE]

I believe Kid Icarus only uses the CPP to allow left handed stylus control.
 
Doubt there will be a functional redesign with a 2nd stick built in. Just got my circle pad today with RE, and I have to say that the game relies heavily on the use of the extra ZL and ZR buttons. I rarely use the inside buttons except in dire situations, and the touch screen is used even less. They will probably redesign, but those of you holding out for a built in 2nd stick are wasting your breath.

Also, the circle pad pro covers the fucking cart and stylus slots. Look forward to mashing your forehead against the touchpad whenever you have to type anything.
 
I swear, you guys read into rumors however you want to read into them.

No news means a redesign at E3.

No news means no redesign at E3.

Rumors about no new redesign mean a new redesign.

No rumors about no redesign means a redesign.

and so on and so on.
 
[quote name='Sir_Fragalot']So I bought the Frankenstein system for the 3DS (AKA the circle pad :lol:). It's not as bad as I imagined, it feels alright. Now to wait for the UPS guy to ship my RE: Revalations to make sure the accessory is working.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't it work with the demo too?
 
[quote name='confoosious']I swear, you guys read into rumors however you want to read into them.

No news means a redesign at E3.....[/QUOTE]


Rumor has it that Strell is beta-testing redesigned 3DSes. We haven't seen him around here in the Nintendo section lately... No input, confirmation or denial from him....that has to mean something. Hmmmmmm.

Seriously, some people think way too much about redesigns this early (even before the 3DS launch). 3DS Lite, 3DS XL, 3DS with a 2nd stick, etc....c'mon, just try to enjoy what's being offered at the moment and not to worry about what might or might not happen in the future. If a redesign means more than having fun playing what's available now, then so be it. I'd totally take fun over waiting a long time any day. There's no time like the present.
 
[quote name='Batcave Dweller']Rumor has it that Strell is beta-testing redesigned 3DSes. We haven't seen him around here in the Nintendo section lately... No input, confirmation or denial from him....that has to mean something. Hmmmmmm.

Seriously, some people think way too much about redesigns this early (even before the 3DS launch). 3DS Lite, 3DS XL, 3DS with a 2nd stick, etc....c'mon, just try to enjoy what's being offered at the moment and not to worry about what might or might not happen in the future. If a redesign means more than having fun playing what's available now, then so be it. I'd totally take fun over waiting a long time any day. There's no time like the present.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. But everyone wants to play Michael Pachter (sp?) and predict everything based on crumbs of news, unsubstantiated rumors, and no actual business expertise.
 
[quote name='Wolfpup']I'd be surprised either way...

I mean I think it's WEIRD we haven't heard about one now, a better XL model or something with the second stick + 4 or 5" screen... but yet we haven't, so...maybe not.[/quote]

Why is it weird? The DS lite was released two years after the DS. Two years after that was the DSi, and the XL came a year after that.

I think it would be more weird if they did announce a refresh before two years.

Maybe at e3? Or maybe not if they're still doing the Wii U. Although I heard a rumor recently that they'd gone back to the drawing board on that, which I HOPE means they're going to use next generation hardware in it, have something that actually competes with what Sony and Microsoft do, and ideally it means they're ditching the silly controller too.
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It sounds like a lot about the Wii U is fluid, which could be a good thing or a bad thing. It is good that they are getting developer input on it. Hopefully it makes for a better console.

But, if you are hoping they are ditching the controller, wish on.
 
The sooner we get a 3DSi the better for me. I LOATHE the current hardware with it's small, poor view angle screen that could be 1-2 stops brighter for me, cramped controls, cheap looking & feeling, no built-in second circle pad, and poor battery life. 3DSi XL is a day 1 purchase for me.
 
I've said it before and I'm saying it again - the Nyko Power Pak adds grip and battery life, addressing most of my complaints with the current design, and for $10 you can't go wrong.

It's pretty inevitable that Nintendo will update their hardware. Every handheld has had multiple revisions, and every console (minus the N64 and Gamecube) has also had redesigns. But it's usually done to reignite sales after a platform has been on the market for awhile (2 years in between DS redesigns).

There's really no point in speculating about it now. It would be a terrible business move to release updated hardware less than a year into it's life cycle, not to mention cost-ineffective for them since they're making less on the current iteration after the price drop.
 
[quote name='JG5253']No hes talking about this

http://www.amazon.com/Nyko-Power-Pa...A7L6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1328752405&sr=8-1[/QUOTE]

Hmm. I must have named it wrong, that's actually not the one I have. I meant the Power Grip:

http://www.amazon.com/Nyko-Power-Gr...WR0C/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1328753552&sr=8-3

Best Buy had them in-store for $10. It's essentially a cradle that attaches to the 3DS to add a more ergonomic grip as well as additional battery life. With this thing on, it lasts about 9 hours. I know a few CAGs who won't use a 3DS without one, now, myself included. I only paid $10 but I'd have gladly paid $20, that's how much I like it.
 
paid 20 for mine. Cannot recommend it higher. Great grip and awesome battery life. I travel a lot so its a must have. Although its just become a mobile charger since the circle pad is now my main 3ds attachment.
 
[quote name='Batcave Dweller']Rumor has it that Strell is beta-testing redesigned 3DSes. We haven't seen him around here in the Nintendo section lately... No input, confirmation or denial from him....that has to mean something. Hmmmmmm.

Seriously, some people think way too much about redesigns this early (even before the 3DS launch). 3DS Lite, 3DS XL, 3DS with a 2nd stick, etc....c'mon, just try to enjoy what's being offered at the moment and not to worry about what might or might not happen in the future. If a redesign means more than having fun playing what's available now, then so be it. I'd totally take fun over waiting a long time any day. There's no time like the present.[/QUOTE]

The problem is that we don't want to spend money on an inferior product when a new one is right around the corner. We don't know when a new one is coming so we don't want to waste money on something that will be obsolete and devalued in a matter of months. Some of us are sick of buying every single model of everything. I will take waiting when I have limited funds to spend on things and I really don't want to be caught getting a bad deal on something or be stuck with a first gen model, especially when there still isn't anything I personally want to play on this system. I know there will be a redesign of this eventually and I am willing to wait however long that takes.

The iPod touch 3g situation taught me a lot about waiting. Apple released the iPod touch 3G without a camera, it was supposed to have one but that got scrapped. So they put the guts of a 2G iPod in a case and labeled it 3rd gen for the 8GB model, so it was really a relabeled 2G iPod touch. If you wanted an upgrade you had to buy the 32GB which was the only one that was truly 3rd gen and even that had very little advantage over the previous second gen. The way it was set up is that you could buy the so called 3G iPod and then a couple months later bam the new one was on the shelf, which totally outclassed the old in every way. The 4th gen added a camera, built in speaker and high res display for the same price as a 2G/3G touch. Why not wait for the better version when you know its coming? Now if I had been impatient and wanted an iPod touch now, I could have bought the 3rd gen, but then I would have been stuck with a very inferior model with no speaker and no camera which means half the apps on the app store would have been inaccessable to me. Most of the apps I use now use the camera and speaker, so I would really be lost without those 2. It was so worth waiting for the iPod touch 4th gen.

The iPad 3 is coming in march, that is only a few weeks away, why buy the iPad 2 now for full price when you know a better one is coming, most likely for the same price as the old one?

Lets not forgot the GBA SP situation, where they announced the GBA SP right after Xmas right after everyone bought regular non-backlit GBA's as Christmas presents.
 
[quote name='SaraAB']The problem is that we don't want to spend money on an inferior product when a new one is right around the corner. We don't know when a new one is coming so we don't want to waste money on something that will be obsolete and devalued in a matter of months. Some of us are sick of buying every single model of everything. I will take waiting when I have limited funds to spend on things and I really don't want to be caught getting a bad deal on something or be stuck with a first gen model, especially when there still isn't anything I personally want to play on this system. I know there will be a redesign of this eventually and I am willing to wait however long that takes.

The iPod touch 3g situation taught me a lot about waiting. Apple released the iPod touch 3G without a camera, it was supposed to have one but that got scrapped. So they put the guts of a 2G iPod in a case and labeled it 3rd gen for the 8GB model, so it was really a relabeled 2G iPod touch. If you wanted an upgrade you had to buy the 32GB which was the only one that was truly 3rd gen and even that had very little advantage over the previous second gen. The way it was set up is that you could buy the so called 3G iPod and then a couple months later bam the new one was on the shelf, which totally outclassed the old in every way. The 4th gen added a camera, built in speaker and high res display for the same price as a 2G/3G touch. Why not wait for the better version when you know its coming? Now if I had been impatient and wanted an iPod touch now, I could have bought the 3rd gen, but then I would have been stuck with a very inferior model with no speaker and no camera which means half the apps on the app store would have been inaccessable to me. Most of the apps I use now use the camera and speaker, so I would really be lost without those 2. It was so worth waiting for the iPod touch 4th gen.

The iPad 3 is coming in march, that is only a few weeks away, why buy the iPad 2 now for full price when you know a better one is coming, most likely for the same price as the old one?

Lets not forgot the GBA SP situation, where they announced the GBA SP right after Xmas right after everyone bought regular non-backlit GBA's as Christmas presents.[/QUOTE]

Welcome to the world of technology items, you must be new here.

It's up to the consumer to put in their due dilligince and research before they buy in this industry. Otherwise, suck it up and take your lumps.
 
[quote name='SaraAB']The problem is that we don't want to spend money on an inferior product when a new one is right around the corner. We don't know when a new one is coming so we don't want to waste money on something that will be obsolete and devalued in a matter of months. Some of us are sick of buying every single model of everything. I will take waiting when I have limited funds to spend on things and I really don't want to be caught getting a bad deal on something or be stuck with a first gen model, especially when there still isn't anything I personally want to play on this system. I know there will be a redesign of this eventually and I am willing to wait however long that takes.[/QUOTE]

While I understand the fear, that always exists with technology. There is always going to be the "new hotness" coming down the road. That being said, I've never really been suckered into it and often enjoy what I have long after there has been "better" things on the market.

If you don't like the 3DS as it stands right now and want to wait for some improvements, that's perfectly fine. But, if you are delaying your purchase because of some view that something newer and shinier is coming out, then you are going to feel like a loser more often than not.
 
Picked up the circle pad pro. Its not all that comfortable. To me, anyway. I was thinking it could help with the cramped "kart" hand, but the new "r" buttons don't work with MK7. I guess I'll keep it, although the GS employee told me they were sold out and I was really lucky to get one. Got another GS holding one for me and they're going for $5-7 more on ebay. Might just pick it up to flip, but not really sure I want to bother.
 
[quote name='TheLongshot']While I understand the fear, that always exists with technology. There is always going to be the "new hotness" coming down the road. That being said, I've never really been suckered into it and often enjoy what I have long after there has been "better" things on the market.

If you don't like the 3DS as it stands right now and want to wait for some improvements, that's perfectly fine. But, if you are delaying your purchase because of some view that something newer and shinier is coming out, then you are going to feel like a loser more often than not.[/QUOTE]

Another thought is you can wait, but you are probably not best off waiting years, if there is a large amount of games you want to play for the system. Now waiting a few weeks, in the case of apple is a very smart idea. You have to buy the product eventually or not buy it at all, and its probably not worth waiting years and years for a redesigned product. Apple products are best bought at launch, since they rarely go on sale, you can get a small discount from amazon or a retailer gift card usually, but at least if you get one at launch or shortly after then you have at least a whole year to enjoy it before something new comes out.

The ideal time to buy the 3DS probably would have been right after the price drop but before the ambassador games thing expired. This would have netted you the most value for your money (if you don't already have the GBA games like I do), and probably give you enough time before the next redesign to play and at least feel like you got your money's worth.

When the redesign comes out, and it will it would be best to get it as close to the launch as possible, so you have time to enjoy it before the next iteration.

At least these days its somewhat predicable what a company is going to do, we know apple iPod's come out in September, and that there will be a new one every year for at least some of the models. Websites are all fighting for the latest rumors. iPad's release in the spring or late winter. Since apple tried to put a camera in the 3G iPod and failed I knew one with a camera would come the next year and I was right. The GBA SP thing was very unpredictable, as was the 3DS price drop. It was more difficult to predict trends in the GBA days. But its good to watch trends, if sales are bad, and tons of a new product is sitting on a shelf for a couple months it may not be good idea to get it. This means a change is coming.

I don't think they will do a redesign until 2013, perhaps early in the year. They could pull a GBA SP and announce it right after the holidays. Nintendo has Wii U out this year, and it would be weird if they released 2 products almost simultaneously. This could leave consumers with a choice of where they want to put their money, and that probably isn't a good thing. Not to mention make those with a 3DS pretty angry for releasing a redesign so soon. I am sure Nintendo wants as many Wii U's to sell as possible and they wouldn't want consumers choosing a new 3DS over Wii U. But a 3DS in 2013 is totally possible, especially before Xmas which would put the 3DS after the 2 year release mark.
 
[quote name='nickerous']I was thinking it could help with the cramped "kart" hand, but the new "r" buttons don't work with MK7. [/QUOTE]

Like the shoulder buttons literally don't function in MK7? That'd be a deal-breaker for me.
 
The Circle Pad Pro is totally software based, so if a game isn't programmed to recognize it then the buttons etc won't work.

The system R button will, of course, still work, but it's incredibly awkward to hit while the CPP is on the system. It's specifically why they added a secondary R to the thing.
 
[quote name='johnnypark']Best Buy had them in-store for $10... I only paid $10 but I'd have gladly paid $20, that's how much I like it.[/QUOTE]

When did you get this at BB for $10? I price checked this last week and it came up full price.

[quote name='girfreak']paid 20 for mine...[/QUOTE]

Where? I'd pay $20 for it too.
 
[quote name='SKEETER']When did you get this at BB for $10? I price checked this last week and it came up full price.

[/QUOTE]

Early January. Got tipped off by a friend on Twitter/CAG and sure enough, it was $10. I got the Power Grip and MK7 for $50. Next time I'm in that part of town I can investigate to see if they still have them at that price or or if it was a pricing mistake that's been fixed.
 
[quote name='SKEETER']When did you get this at BB for $10? I price checked this last week and it came up full price.



Where? I'd pay $20 for it too.[/QUOTE]

best buy lol
 
I know there is a redesign coming and such but I am fine with my 3DS I got it for 117$ through Amazon. Now the circle pad thing could wait like the above have said you can get it for 10$ I might check out best buy and if they dont then I can wait for it. The battery thing isn't a killer to me because I can just buy like 5$ worth of dollar tree batteries and make it last a year.
 
I used to think a quick revision was a foregone conclusion after the circle pad pro was revealed. Now, I'm still convinced there will be a hardware revision at some point (because frankly, its Nintendo and that's what they do) but I'm not even sure they'll include a second slide pad.

Here's a list of circle pad pro compatible games for the next few months:
Resident Evil Revelations
MGS3
Monster Hunter
Kid Icarus (very limited use for lefties)
Kingdom Hearts
Dynasty Warriors

That's it, and none of those games even require it at this point. Its a peripheral at this point and one that doesn't seem to have very extensive support in the future right now. Frankly, I'm sitting here with a sealed Circle Pad Pro that I'm not even sure I want to open because $20 seems a bit much for something I'll only use on a limited basis for a few games.

Including it in a future system? I dunno. maybe, maybe not. Time will tell I suppose.
 
Now that it exists, though, I think we'll see more and more games use the CPP. I'd almost guarantee that most of Nintendo's first party titles (i.e. the already announced Luigi's Mansion 2) will use it in some capacity.

As someone pointed out, it's also currently an accessory. They've been smart so far and haven't fractured the userbase by requiring it for any game. I will say, however, that I'd be shocked to find someone who has used it and DOESN'T want it incorporated into a redesign somehow. Just from my own experience, I find RE:R to be perfectly playable without the CPP, but I'd never go back to that after playing it with a second stick. I think the difference with MGS3D will be even more pronounced, since I gather that it plays rather like Splinter Cell 3D without the CPP... which, if you've played SP3D, you'd agree is very far from a fucking good thing.

My view is this... it will be in a redesign. Period. Why? If they don't, they'll need to create an ENTIRELY NEW CPP accessory for the redesigned system, which seems like a gigantically stupid measure to take when they could simply toss a second stick into a new 3DS. The second stick is out there now, so it's not going away. I'd be foolish not to just add it to a new system.

In terms of a timeframe, and I'll admit to just pulling this out of my ass, I'd say we have at least a year before a new version of the system is out. My thinking is this: if it were this Spring, we'd know about it already. Same with summer (at least some concrete rumblings, anyway). Nintendo has already announced the WiiU for Fall 2012, and it makes no sense to launch a new 3DS at the same time. Spring 2013 will mark 2 years since the 3DS launch, which I think anyone would agree is a decently acceptable timeline for a new version. Not too short to make early adopters angry, and not long enough to kill interest. That's just my take on it.


Oh, and just on another topic... having spent a few hours with RE:R in the same week that I spent time at GameStop with Uncharted Vita, I can safely say that I'm not quite as impressed with the Vita anymore. It's nice, but RE has shown me that it's definitely possible to create what most people would call a 'real' (graphically, gameplay, etc) game on the 3DS. Easily the most impressive looking 3DS game to date.
 
Yeah I agree, I think we will see a redesign by Christmas 2013, if they pulled a redesign this year before Christmas with the Wii U out I would be really surprised. Also history has it that Nintendo typically releases handheld systems every 2 years so that would make it the perfect time to launch a redesign. A redesign this year would also make the CPP obsolete within a matter of months, since it was just released,and I don't think Nintendo wants that.
 
I like that some of these games have pedometer modes to have that stuff feed into the game in some way, though Sakura Samurai's Rock Garden mode is kind of dumb since it only lets you do that once a day. I did a quick test to see how it works and I hope the few hundred steps I got after that will be able to count tomorrow or this will not be a popular mode for me. The save system is also not so good since it autosaves at certain major points rather than after every stage you complete.
 
You may already know, but you can save by going to a hotel in one of the villages. Anyways, I agree, it is very annoying saving with this game. Some aspects just feel so archaic.
 
I find the CPP really awkward for some reason. I don't have a full game that uses it yet, but trying it with RE:R was really weird and I just couldn't get accustomed to it. I guess it's because I'm used to Mercenaries 3D, but the buttons still feel a bit mushy to me.

I don't know, but I feel like it's going in a redesign at some point in the near future.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']I know that now, but you have to play through a handful of stages before you can reach one. It should just save beating a stage.[/QUOTE]

I learned that the hard way after I turned it off. Had to repeat a few stages. It also doesn't help that we don't know the direction to the first village.

I also don't get why I can't just exit a level without going into the intro screen (loose all progress up to last save). I feel this game was developed in the N64 era.
 
Me again and torn again. I have $50 and am thinking of getting a 3DS game and a DS game. Should I get Mario Kart 7 or RE:R? My DS game was going to be Final Fantasy The 4 Heroes of Light. Mostly because it's cheap and I've been curious about it
 
Picked up a CPP this weekend and I like the way it feels in the RE:R demo, looking forward to trying it out in MGS3 and Revelations eventually(waiting on a price drop for that one). I can also manage using it full-time, my fingers are long enough to reach all the buttons(even R) without any discomfort, but I can see how it'd be off-putting to some.

Also, MGS3 demo will be up on the shop this Thursday for anyone that's interested.
 
[quote name='Throwerguy']Me again and torn again. I have $50 and am thinking of getting a 3DS game and a DS game. Should I get Mario Kart 7 or RE:R? My DS game was going to be Final Fantasy The 4 Heroes of Light. Mostly because it's cheap and I've been curious about it[/QUOTE]
It all depends on what you're in the mood for. I would go with MK7 because I think the new RE is crap, but I know others here will feel otherwise.
 
[quote name='ZombieToast']It all depends on what you're in the mood for. I would go with MK7 because I think the new RE is crap, but I know others here will feel otherwise.[/QUOTE]

MK7 has more replayability between online and ghost data via both Spotpass and Streetpass. I'm through the first 2 chapters of RE:R though and I'm really enjoying it, it feels like a return to form for the series. It has far less replayability, though, so $40 is a bit steep unless you burn through it and then re-sell.
 
It's actually the same as MKW, but because there are 4 less AI it makes it look like it's better.

Also, Super Mario Bros. Update is out on the eShop, which adds:
- A fancy new Menu Icon (NES + TV)
- Save States
 
Snake Eater demo is gorgeous but it controls like shit on a stick with the button-mapped camera. It seems to work OK when navigating the environments, but you realize how painfully imprecise it is when you're trying to aim weapons.
 
Played through the MGS3 demo and it works fine, but unless they have some huge unannounced feature like the return of the original MGO, I find it hard to want to pay $40 for just MGS3 when I just got 2, 3, and Peace Walker for $30 and can get that collection for Vita at some point if I want portable MGS games.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']Played through the MGS3 demo and it works fine, but unless they have some huge unannounced feature like the return of the original MGO, I find it hard to want to pay $40 for just MGS3 when I just got 2, 3, and Peace Walker for $30 and can get that collection for Vita at some point if I want portable MGS games.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, as soon as they announced Metal Gear Collection for Vita, I knew I was skipping out on the 3DS version. Even if the charge the "premium" price for the collection we're talking $10 more than the 3DS version of Snake Eater alone. Granted the Vita version won't be in 3D but I'll take 2 extra games over 3D any day of the week.
 
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