No more 60GB PlayStation 3

EB games had a sweet trade in deal on PS3's here a few months ago (in Canada). I paid about $225 USD, plus gave them my old xbox and 10 games.

I was giving the pitch to my wife about why I should do this. I reminded that we are broke, blah, blah, blah.

While I was pouting that evening, she asked 'are you mad at me?'. 'No, I would rather spend $650 in a couple months. :) She got the sarcasm, and I won!

~S
 
fuckin stupid Sony!!! Just when I was really impressed with their E3 this year and thougt they were totally headed in the right direction they pull this shit. I was planning on waiting a while longer before I bought a PS3 since I am currently building myself a really expensive new gaming pc. But it now sounds like if I want a PS3 with the EE I have to spring for one sooner than I originally thought. SHIT!!!!!
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight'] Yeah, wives are like that. :( That's kind of why I'm glad I'm single right now (probably never get married because of that, since I like games too much, but that's another story). ;) [/QUOTE]

Or you could try to find one like my soon-to-be fiancee, who told me last night to buy her a $500 cheaper ring so I could also pick up a PS3. Might just take her up on the latter part, but I won't be buying her a cheaper ring.
 
[quote name='cgarb84']fuckin stupid Sony!!! Just when I was really impressed with their E3 this year and thougt they were totally headed in the right direction they pull this shit. I was planning on waiting a while longer before I bought a PS3 since I am currently building myself a really expensive new gaming pc. But it now sounds like if I want a PS3 with the EE I have to spring for one sooner than I originally thought. SHIT!!!!![/QUOTE]We all knew that. If you all want EE, you'd have to pay the price, and the market is showing they rather pay for a stripped down console (buying most everything separately or not dealing with full BC). Also, Sony STILL has plenty of 60GB left in their factory, so we are still getting them. Who knows when the 60GB will be gone. Could be gone in August, could be gone in December, we just don't know now.
 
[quote name='strummerbs']Or you could try to find one like my soon-to-be fiancee, who told me last night to buy her a $500 cheaper ring so I could also pick up a PS3. Might just take her up on the latter part, but I won't be buying her a cheaper ring.[/quote]Awwww.
 
So basically the choice is 60gb now with EE for $500

or

80gb without EE whenever it drops to $500 or buy it for $600.

I'm still not sure.
 
[quote name='javeryh']This is ultimately my reason for passing on this. She just doesn't get it. I got the "I don't see the need to own 3 different consoles." speech.[/quote]
You should rebuttle with the Blu-Ray speech...you know, you're thinking about the kids, so that you can buy Blu-Ray Disney films and have them enjoy Hi Def, Chicken Little, Cars, Dinosaurs...etc. You're concerned about their vision, you don't want them straining their eyes with blurry 480i/p resolutions, you want to give them the full 1080p eye popping experience. ;)
 
[quote name='strummerbs']Or you could try to find one like my soon-to-be fiancee, who told me last night to buy her a $500 cheaper ring so I could also pick up a PS3. Might just take her up on the latter part, but I won't be buying her a cheaper ring.[/QUOTE]


wow, that's really cool of her :) Most women would tell you how useless a game console is, then get pissed if you don't buy them a $1000 or more rock :roll: :lol:
 
[quote name='dallow']Pretty sure 80GB alone will cost $499.
Don't trust the SCEE guy, never have.[/QUOTE]

Well, if they're launching the 80GB with Motorstorm for $600, one thing they simply can't do is remove Motorstorm and sell it for $600. So, in a sense, that's good news, if we assume that they'll eventually drop the packaged game inclusion (since the era of the PS1, systems sold without games included has been the norm, and not the exception). If they drop the game, then it would have to drop in price.

Nevertheless, to simply take out a $60 game and reduce the MSRP to $500 would look equally foolish. So, where they go from here is equally unclear.

[quote name='dallow']Awwww.[/QUOTE]

Indeed. Very "awww" worthy.

[quote name='The Mana Knight']From what I do hear, BC is around 90% in the one with EE, so that isn't completely bad.[/QUOTE]

Shaddup. Every one of your posts is so laden with nothing more than pro-Sony conjecture it's sickening. Why don't you go blather about how software emulation is 75% and ignore that that percentage is based off of multiple SKUs for the same title, and also includes games that don't work very well at all, while you're at it?
 
As long as rumble is available via firmware and new controller I'll be a happy camper for a long time to come. Don't see myself ever really using more than 60GB since I use TVersity to stream all my vids from PC for free.
 
Man, Sony loves shooting themselves in the foot, and then immediately shooting themselves in the nuts. So far it's been ring around the consoles for them, and it makes me less interested in buying something from them.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']
Shaddup. [/quote]You STFU.
Every one of your posts is so laden with nothing more than pro-Sony conjecture it's sickening.
Yes I am pro-Sony, but I'm not that big of a fanboy.
Why don't you go blather about how software emulation is 75% and ignore that that percentage is based off of multiple SKUs for the same title, and also includes games that don't work very well at all, while you're at it?
75% was the original number I knew, but several Europeans with the model without the EE, say BC is at 90% (not just one).
[quote name='robin2099']Man, Sony loves shooting themselves in the foot, and then immediately shooting themselves in the nuts. So far it's been ring around the consoles for them, and it makes me less interested in buying something from them.[/QUOTE]I provided the link which proved Reeves is an idiot and his claims are FALSE. Sony is a good company to deal with.
[quote name='whoknows']So my 60gb is going to become rare/valuable, right? :lol:[/QUOTE]
Not as rare as my 20GB. ;)
 
Damn...things like these are what make you lose faith in the gaming industry...what are we to believe now...they said no price cut was coming when we already knew it was, and now this? Ay chihuahua!
 
[quote name='PhoenixT']http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/pos...price-drop-soon-only-one-600-ps3-remains.html

another confirmation of it ZogLog looks like the system will stay at 600 though you get a "little" more for you money now.[/QUOTE]

they source the original article posted here in the first place, that's not another confirmation.

SCEA has already debunked this

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6427&Itemid=2

SCEA has denied 'inaccurate' reports that its $100 price cut on the 60Gig PS3 is simply a move to clear stock before offering solely the higher priced 80Gig version.

no surprises here =p. Thats' why I told people to calm the fuck down.
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']75% was the original number I knew, but several Europeans with the model without the EE, say BC is at 90% (not just one).[/QUOTE]

Well, the original number I knew was 6780245%. But, doing my own work, and looking at the BC page on SCEE, along with anecdotes about how the "may work with noticeable issues" games played, showed me that their claim of 72% is dead fucking wrong. So, don't treat like fact that which you are unaware of, particularly when it's so easy to discredit.

[quote name='The Mana Knight']Denied:

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6427&Itemid=2[/QUOTE]

Denied? Yep. Untrue? Not so sure.

SCEA's response: "As announced this week, SCEA's product offering in North America consists of a 80GB PS3 available in August at $599 and a 60GB PS3 available now for $499. We have will have ample supplies of both models to meet the needs of our consumers for the foreseeable future."

Looks deliberately cryptic to me. It does not address whether or not 60GB are still being manufactured, and the phrase "foreseeable future" means nothing. Six minutes is the "foreseeable future." So is 600 years from now. SCEA didn't answer shit with that response that couldn't be covered in a "no comment."
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Well, the original number I knew was 6780245%. But, doing my own work, and looking at the BC page on SCEE, along with anecdotes about how the "may work with noticeable issues" games played, showed me that their claim of 72% is dead fucking wrong. So, don't treat like fact that which you are unaware of, particularly when it's so easy to discredit.



Denied? Yep. Untrue? Not so sure.

SCEA's response: "As announced this week, SCEA's product offering in North America consists of a 80GB PS3 available in August at $599 and a 60GB PS3 available now for $499. We have will have ample supplies of both models to meet the needs of our consumers for the foreseeable future."

Looks deliberately cryptic to me. It does not address whether or not 60GB are still being manufactured, and the phrase "foreseeable future" means nothing. Six minutes is the "foreseeable future." So is 600 years from now. SCEA didn't answer shit with that response that couldn't be covered in a "no comment."[/QUOTE]

They could also be trying to avoid making the SCEE guy look like a complete dumbass by spewing info he didn't know about. Of course like you said it's not out of the realm of possibility but highly unlikely.
 
If the 80 GB bundle costs Sony less to make than the 60 GB EE system, and they can sell it for $100 more, then of course they're going to phase out the 60 GB ones. I don't need the David Brent/Michael Scott of SCEE to tell me that.
 
Fact: the 60GB model is no longer in production.

[quote name='mykevermin']Denied? Yep. Untrue? Not so sure.

SCEA's response: "As announced this week, SCEA's product offering in North America consists of a 80GB PS3 available in August at $599 and a 60GB PS3 available now for $499. We have will have ample supplies of both models to meet the needs of our consumers for the foreseeable future."[/QUOTE]
This is NOT a denial. The headline says it is, but it is NOT. They are denying the bad-spin put on this news that they are "clearancing" the 60GB model.

There are currently a couple million 60GB PS3's sitting around yet to be shipped. There are still manay 60GB models left to sell, but it IS being discontinued.

http://cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144585
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Well, the original number I knew was 6780245%. But, doing my own work, and looking at the BC page on SCEE, along with anecdotes about how the "may work with noticeable issues" games played, showed me that their claim of 72% is dead fucking wrong. So, don't treat like fact that which you are unaware of, particularly when it's so easy to discredit.



Denied? Yep. Untrue? Not so sure.

SCEA's response: "As announced this week, SCEA's product offering in North America consists of a 80GB PS3 available in August at $599 and a 60GB PS3 available now for $499. We have will have ample supplies of both models to meet the needs of our consumers for the foreseeable future."

Looks deliberately cryptic to me. It does not address whether or not 60GB are still being manufactured, and the phrase "foreseeable future" means nothing. Six minutes is the "foreseeable future." So is 600 years from now. SCEA didn't answer shit with that response that couldn't be covered in a "no comment."[/quote]

Completely agree. That is not a very strong denial. The foreseeable future is hardly a defined time period.
 
[quote name='PyroGamer']This is NOT a denial. The headline says it is, but it is NOT. They are denying the bad-spin put on this news that they are "clearancing" the 60GB model.

There are currently a couple million 60GB PS3's sitting around yet to be shipped. There are still manay 60GB models left to sell, but it IS being discontinued.[/QUOTE]

Let me take you to a blast from the past:

[quote name='mykevermin']Looks deliberately cryptic to me. It does not address whether or not 60GB are still being manufactured, and the phrase "foreseeable future" means nothing. Six minutes is the "foreseeable future." So is 600 years from now. SCEA didn't answer shit with that response that couldn't be covered in a "no comment."[/QUOTE]

All the way back on July 13, 2007, when I made a post in a thread titled "No more 60GB Playstation 3." Just before I said that, I quoted an article that said Sony's response was "As announced this week, SCEA's product offering in North America consists of a 80GB PS3 available in August at $599 and a 60GB PS3 available now for $499. We have will have ample supplies of both models to meet the needs of our consumers for the foreseeable future."

I know it's a *long* time ago that I said that, but is there really anything you're saying that contradicts that golden oldie of mine?
 
Doesn't help when you've got your game makers saying that you will cut your price again.

Source

Sony Corp is likely to lower the PlayStation 3 price again by the year-end following this week's $100 cut, a senior executive at Japanese game software maker Capcom Co. Ltd. said. "The number of PS2 users is still growing and a shift to the PS3 is on the back burner,"
 
[quote name='Apossum']80gb w/Motorstorm is limited. the 80gb will become $499.[/quote]

That was my understanding as well. The question I guess is when will that happen?
 
So they are phasing out the 60gb and the 80gb is limited.

So that means... PS3 is over?

PS3 ENDS AT THE END OF JULY!

That'd be funny if they just ended hardware supply and the only ones that get to play PS3 games are the ones that purchased them earlier.
 
[quote name='daminion']Doesn't help when you've got your game makers saying that you will cut your price again.

Source[/quote]
Holly shit! WTF are they doing???....I'd swear their offices are run by monkeys.

EDIT: Just noticed that the quote if from Capcom, not Sony.

scap7.jpg
 
[quote name='daminion']Doesn't help when you've got your game makers saying that you will cut your price again.

Source[/quote]Which would line up the 80GB PS3 w/o EE w/o Motorstorm at $499.99 for the holiday season, and the Motostorm "bungle" at $599.99 will probably disappear.
 
[quote name='DarkNessBear']So they are phasing out the 60gb and the 80gb is limited.

So that means... PS3 is over?

PS3 ENDS AT THE END OF JULY!

That'd be funny if they just ended hardware supply and the only ones that get to play PS3 games are the ones that purchased them earlier.[/quote]Funny in the sad sense, or funny in the "haha, no companies make games for an install base of under 10 million." Oh wait. ;)

Though if it were to end, it would remain eerily similar to the Saturn lifecycle, as it has begun.
 
They are ALL run by monkeys.

Monkey type A can't price things correctly

Monkey type B can't put out a decent piece of hardware

and Monkey type C enjoys standing on a scale

ZING!
 
This whole clusterfuck is a problem of too much information available too quickly.
Im sure it will all be a non-issue 3 months from now.
But at the moment, sony is handling the new price structure for the ps3 in a completely asinine and befuddling manner.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I hate to have to go there, but you do bring it on yourself, you know...

A different sort of monkey than those who sell a console with a near-certainty of failure, sure, but monkeys nonetheless.

Bring on the console that doesn't die at an astronomical rate, monkeys![/quote]
Your comment makes it seem like I'd should have gotten offended...I dunno why I would?

I think seanr1221 put it as simply as it gets.
 
Oh my god, what the hell is Sony doing?

Is it just me, or does Sony seem very shady, and undermining this generation?

I really don't like the way they do business, but there are a few games they are getting I want to play.

It's all very conflicting.
 
Excuse my ignorance, but I'm completly confused as of now :/

What is this EE thing everyone keeps referring to? And something about Europe getting a 120GB HDD, and US an 80GB HDD?

Why cant we all just buy a 20GB one, and use some of the many ways to upgrade the HDD, such as the Hyperdrive or the 120GB 2.5" drive?
 
[quote name='zewone']Oh my god, what the hell is Sony doing?

Is it just me, or does Sony seem very shady, and undermining this generation?

I really don't like the way they do business, but there are a few games they are getting I want to play.

It's all very conflicting.[/quote]

I'm in the same boat...last night I was ready to get a 60GB by the end of summer, now...I don't know what to think...I'm baffled!
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']I'm in the same boat...last night I was ready to get a 60GB by the end of summer, now...I don't know what to think...I'm baffled![/QUOTE]

While not that soon, I am in the same boat. Here I'm thinking 'price cuts...now we're moving into 'buy me' territory' when in fact it's a 'let's charge the old price and make believe people are getting a deal' time.

Someone wake me up when EE machines drop below $300.
 
I was primed to buy but I think I'll just sit this out and take the approach of going through my backlog until the PS3 is $200.

Why is it that every third home system a company makes is riddled with issues? Saturn. N64. PS3. The way it's going, the 360 will win this gen, but stay away from the next MS system. Anyone else ever notice that?
 
[quote name='Riyonuk']
What is this EE thing everyone keeps referring to?
[/QUOTE]

EE refers to the Emotion Engine chip. It's basically the component in the PS3 that allows it to be backwards compatible with PS2 games. But Sony has stated that in the new 80GB model coming out next month that the Emotion Engine chip won't be in it. It will instead use software emulation to play PS2 games instead of being a hardware emulator. This means a lower rate of backwards compatibility (but not by too much) with PS2 games. You'll probably get to play all of the major sellers. But FW updates will have to take care of adding compatibility to some of the minor hits.
 
[quote name='NamPaehc']Okay what it is the problem? This has been cleared up hasn't it? Why are people still confused about???[/quote]If SCEA is confused internally, not sure how you can expect the gaming community to be even less so.
 
What was wrong with the Saturn besides Sega not supporting it. Sega killed it, just like they did the Genesis.
 
[quote name='mwynn']What was wrong with the Saturn besides Sega not supporting it. Sega killed it, just like they did the Genesis.[/QUOTE]

That's more of the point, there seems to be a curse with the third version, seems to make executives stupid.
 
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