No more 60GB PlayStation 3

Hmm. Is it me or wouldn't Sony have maximized profits by just keeping the one 60 gig SKU yet having it for 500 and have motorstorm packed in for the christmas season? I mean, really, if you wanted 80 gigs you could put it in there yourself. I don't know what they're trying to prove with the 80 gig sku. They want a one SKU system then do it. Keep the 60 gig at 500 and sell that.
 
Manufacture changes, maybe the 80gig costs less, or maybe they want to give people more gigs to justify taking out the EE are my guesses.

There is no way they're going to continue with a $599 price point if they want to stay in the console war. The Motorstorm is Limited Edition, so when they get rid of all the 60gigs, they can take Motorstorm out of the 80gig and drop that price down to $499.
 
[quote name='Punk_Raven']Hmm. Is it me or wouldn't Sony have maximized profits by just keeping the one 60 gig SKU yet having it for 500 and have motorstorm packed in for the christmas season? I mean, really, if you wanted 80 gigs you could put it in there yourself. I don't know what they're trying to prove with the 80 gig sku. They want a one SKU system then do it. Keep the 60 gig at 500 and sell that.[/QUOTE]Like I said many times, it is cheaper to produce the 80GB SKU, because the EE is removed, less components, and an 80GB HDD is cheaper in bulk (due to being standard).
 
Oh, I guess that makes sense then. This all makes sense now. They can make more money off of the 80 gig and then when that's all over they can drop the priceto 500. Dropping the 60 gig to 500 will atleast get rid of stock.
Either way I'm better off finding a 20 gig and putting a new harddrive in it.
 
[quote name='botticus']So what are we estimating as far as the duration of the availability of the 60GB model? Assuming 1.2 million in the pipeline, I would have said maybe 6-8 months at $500. That's averaging more than double their current sales (which takes into account holiday uptick).

But with this news that the 80GB will likely be $500 shortly after the 60GB goes away, I'm thinking sales of the 60GB won't double after all. So maybe sticking with the high-end 8-10 month range?[/QUOTE]

While I find it extremely hard to believe that Sony could survive trying to keep the 80GB unit at $599, it seems equally questionable to assume the second the last 60GB unit sells at $499, the 80GB will drop to take its place.

It seems like the only certainty with Sony this generation is DO NOT ASSUME they will do anything in particular, and definitely don't try to think like a rational person.

That said, it seems like $499 for a 60gb unit is still quite a deal, especially since they're more than likely better built than a $599 (or $499) 80gb unit. (since all initial reports are how overengineered the PS3 is and they have to cut corners somewhere to get prices down right now.)

I seriously doubt the original plan was to ever drop the PS3 below $600 for any reason until E3 2008... (I'm sure the original plan was to have them selling at least as many as the 360, as well, but that didn't turn out so hot. They probably figured holding at around 80% of the 360's monthly sales could keep them in the game until they could get some bigger price drops but the current sales are so slow they're probably not quite sure what to do without ruining the company)

That said, I am surprised at this generation since it seems so much like each company wants to lose-- Sony's insane pricing, MS' failure rate and failure to reduce prices, and Nintendo releasing a system that is arguably way underpowered. Seems like the time could be very right for a Dreamcast-like system (say a system around 80% as powerful as the 360 for $199-$249), but I don't know who would make it.
 
[quote name='Justin42']That said, I am surprised at this generation since it seems so much like each company wants to lose-- Sony's insane pricing, MS' failure rate and failure to reduce prices, and Nintendo releasing a system that is arguably way underpowered. Seems like the time could be very right for a Dreamcast-like system (say a system around 80% as powerful as the 360 for $199-$249), but I don't know who would make it.[/QUOTE]I have to agree for the most part.

Despite being a Sony fan, I was a little ticked at Sony for announcing PS3 at $599.99, and I wasn't even going to buy one. Once they added HDMI to the 20GB model ($499.99 is the max I'll pay), I went ahead and bought it, despite knowing the prices will probably drop. I'm into Sony's first party games most, so I was going to buy one, one day. If Sony was working on cutting costs and continuing to drop the price, I'd be fine and I'm okay with it being slightly more than the competitors (especially with how fine the hardware is IMO). But bundling crap, increasing HDD, and other stuff to try to justify the price, that's freaking retarded. I hate that and it makes me upset.

Although I've been an Xbox fan at one point and bought a 360 before my PS3, I'm not a 360 fan either. Many of the big Xbox franchises, I dislike (I hate most all shooters, hate online games, etc.), so its difficult for me to find stuff I like that isn't exclusive. I do like some of its RPGs its getting and I do enjoy some Xbox only racers. But that's not the only problem, I continue having bad luck with MS hardware since my Xbox gave me lots of problems, and my 360 broke just over 90 days, which made me more interested to buy a PS3 (since I knew I couldn't trust the 360 for most multi-platform games). I don't like the hardware itself either (terrible d-pad, loud annoying console that makes me want to quit playing, etc,), so I can't exactly make 360 my main console.

I use to be a big time Nintendo fan with SNES and I liked GBA a lot (other than the terrible sound quality in SNES ports). I even liked the GC more than most people did, but I'm not a fan of the Wii. It's nice that its getting good Japanese support and I love quirky Japanese games (I also hate online gaming, so Nintendo and I aren't a bad mix), but once I got an HDTV, really tough to want to go back to last generation graphics on a console (I'll play a few 2D games, but that's it). I don't like the direction Nintendo is going at all with gaming (lots of mini-game type games, and multi-player focused games, which are negative for me, since I have next to no friends in real life to play with). So Wii isn't exactly the console for me, although I will get one someday for sure.

So I barely know what to do anyway. Only platform making me truly happy right now with the least to worry about is PSP (other than fewer game releases compared to before), since it has the most appealing games to me currently and in the near future, don't have to deal with crazy pricing, and there are still tons of games I want to import for it. I liked PS2 and all before, but its future release schedule isn't big enough to be my main console at the moment (plus my RPG backlog is ridiculous, and any RPG I buy won't be touched, unless it can match my favorites). I wouldn't mind increasing DS support (since it really is more appealing game wise than any next gen console), but the handheld isn't really my cup of tea (not a fan of the touchscreen, prefer games that don't use it, but that's another story). Maybe, I'll stick to handhelds, but I'm already set on buying games on PS3/360 the rest of the year.
 
I loaded up yahoo and was greeted by:

PS3 price going back up?

Sony dropped the cost of its console by $100 this week, but the price cut may be short-lived.
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Wow. The media is really going to eat them up on this aren't they?

I wonder, for the non-hardcore what this means. Either they are going to rush up and buy a PS3 because of the savings now, or they are going to turn their noses up. I see more "hardcore" people doing the latter but this little confusion might help sales???
 
LOL It was a mistake xD endgadget has the recent news looks like it was only for EU news. LOl USA will keep having 60gb ps3s :) for 500
 
I don't know if this has been said before but I'll just say it this is my theory on it.

Their thinking is PS3s are selling like shit so they drop the 60GB PS3s to $500 so that could increase sales but then once they are all sold. They will just have 1 SKU at $600 for 80gb hard drive and motorstorm(which could be limited). So if they have 2 SKUs, the bottom one at $500 isn't going to sell at all because people that want a PS3 will be confuse and want the PS3 with the bigger hard drive. Then the thing is PEOPLE THAT WANT PS3 DON'T WANNA SPEND $600 ON A ****IN SYSTEM!
 
[quote name='beltresea38']I don't know if this has been said before but I'll just say it this is my theory on it.

Their thinking is PS3s are selling like shit so they drop the 60GB PS3s to $500 so that could increase sales but then once they are all sold. They will just have 1 SKU at $600 for 80gb hard drive and motorstorm(which could be limited). So if they have 2 SKUs, the bottom one at $500 isn't going to sell at all because people that want a PS3 will be confuse and want the PS3 with the bigger hard drive. Then the thing is PEOPLE THAT WANT PS3 DON'T WANNA SPEND $600 ON A ****IN SYSTEM! [/QUOTE]



PSA for ranters:

--the discontinuation of the 60gb has been dis-confirmed.
--the 80gb with motorstorm is limited
--I saw Sony looking funny at your gf
 
Why is the mana knight on sony's dick?It's pretty fucked up he gives bj's to sony while sony doesn't give a fuck about him.He kind of reminds me of a person from work.He said that rainbow six vegas sucked when it came out on the 360 but now it's the shit now that it's on the ps3.I like the ps3 but come on!
 
Despite what the title of that article says, they know nothing about what's going to happen once the 60gb is out of stock. In fact Sony clearly states that, "We won't be making any further announcements regarding our PS3 model hardware strategy in North America until the 60GB model is exhausted and market conditions are evaluated."

Which means more along the lines of, they want to see how well the $500 price tag on the 60gb version sells before they make any decisions on what to do next. The $500 price drop is still a new thing, remember it's been less than a week since it's come into affect, that's really not enough time to make those key financial calculations and projections. Right now they're probably looking at the sales, looking at how much more they're losing per unit, and trying to decide whether the price drop was worth the sales gains and extra money lost per unit.

With MS poised with its own price drop and the holidays coming up, Sony will have to respond by either keeping their price drop or adding more value, heck they could go even lower.

No one really knows, likely not even the execs. It'll probably come down to an equation involving these factors: How much is Sony losing per unit with the new price point, how many more sales and at what rate are they increasing by since the price cut, how much money is Sony willing to spend (a lot it seems), and will it be enough to get Sony back on track within a certain timeframe. And to get that data, Sony needs to watch the 60gb sales closely.
 
[quote name='snakelda']Why is the mana knight on sony's dick?It's pretty fucked up he gives bj's to sony while sony doesn't give a fuck about him.He kind of reminds me of a person from work.He said that rainbow six vegas sucked when it came out on the 360 but now it's the shit now that it's on the ps3.I like the ps3 but come on![/QUOTE]Sony gives me free stuff, so they care.
 
[quote name='Apossum']PSA for ranters:

--the discontinuation of the 60gb has been dis-confirmed.
--the 80gb with motorstorm is limited
--I saw Sony looking funny at your gf[/quote]Disconfirmed? How did we go full circle again?
 
I'm sure it's been mentioned earlier in the thread, but isn't it possible that once the 'core' 60gb model sells out, Sony will also make an 80gb model available without a pack-in game for $499? I think this is particularly likely if Microsoft times its inevitable price cuts for September for Halo 3's debut (my guess).
 
And what people keep forgetting is, SCEA said themselves, whenever they 60GB PS3 sells completely out, they will analyze the market situation and price the console accordingly. That could mean PS3 at $600, $500, $400, etc. We just don't know until the 60GB is no longer available. It will be a LONG time until that happens, since all EB/Gamestop's near me say (4+ PS3 consoles and none coming in).
 
Keep in mind that the rumble controller has been all but confirmed. An announcement is likely at Leipzig or Tokyo in the next couple of months. I assume none of the 60GB consoles have a rumble controller, once it's made official that the rumble exists the 60GB consoles will lose some value. They have to get rid of the 60GB consoles and non-rumble controllers fast. I think they want rumble available for this holiday season and packed into the console.

I just tried to find an official PS3 controller on the Gamestop website and can't find it, is it there? Amazon has it $10 cheaper and Circuit City have been giving them away with PS3 console purchases. Seems to me rumble is almost here, these places are trying to get rid of non-rumble controller stock.

The $600 80GB SKU serves 3 purposes IMO. One it gives something for Sony to sell to retailers if the 60GB runs out which I assume is out of production. Two it adds value to the 60GB version. People see another $600 version on the horizon and I doubt an extra 20GB and Motorstorm is worth a $100 to most people, this gives them incentive to buy now rather than to wait. This is good for Sony to clear out old 60GB stock.

Third they may be trying to fool Microsoft into thinking the $500 price is temporary and that $600 will be standard again soon. The last thing Sony needs is a $200 core and $300 premium this holiday season with Halo 3 and GTA4 out there. That $200 core looks tempting for those PS2 owners wanting to play Grand Theft Auto. Honestly it could be the death blow for PS3 this gen if lots of PS2 owners shift over to the 360 at those prices.

That $600 SKU may buy them some time and keep MS at current prices through the holiday. Then when rumble is announced they can offer an 80GB version with rumble packed in and NO Motorstorm and priced at $499. I'm not sure MS would scramble to lower the price in October-December, they would just ride it out if they weren't planning a price drop.
 
[quote name='botticus']Disconfirmed? How did we go full circle again?[/quote]It has not been disconfirmed. It's official. 60gigs are discontinued, thus the $100 drop. The 80gig w/o the emotion chip is replacing it, at the $599 price.

Classic, Classic Sony move. Truly, this is one for the books.
 
[quote name='zerolens']Keep in mind that the rumble controller has been all but confirmed. An announcement is likely at Leipzig or Tokyo in the next couple of months. I assume none of the 60GB consoles have a rumble controller, once it's made official that the rumble exists the 60GB consoles will lose some value. They have to get rid of the 60GB consoles and non-rumble controllers fast. I think they want rumble available for this holiday season and packed into the console.

I just tried to find an official PS3 controller on the Gamestop website and can't find it, is it there? Amazon has it $10 cheaper and Circuit City have been giving them away with PS3 console purchases. Seems to me rumble is almost here, these places are trying to get rid of non-rumble controller stock.

The $600 80GB SKU serves 3 purposes IMO. One it gives something for Sony to sell to retailers if the 60GB runs out which I assume is out of production. Two it adds value to the 60GB version. People see another $600 version on the horizon and I doubt an extra 20GB and Motorstorm is worth a $100 to most people, this gives them incentive to buy now rather than to wait. This is good for Sony to clear out old 60GB stock.

Third they may be trying to fool Microsoft into thinking the $500 price is temporary and that $600 will be standard again soon. The last thing Sony needs is a $200 core and $300 premium this holiday season with Halo 3 and GTA4 out there. That $200 core looks tempting for those PS2 owners wanting to play Grand Theft Auto. Honestly it could be the death blow for PS3 this gen if lots of PS2 owners shift over to the 360 at those prices.

That $600 SKU may buy them some time and keep MS at current prices through the holiday. Then when rumble is announced they can offer an 80GB version with rumble packed in and NO Motorstorm and priced at $499. I'm not sure MS would scramble to lower the price in October-December, they would just ride it out if they weren't planning a price drop.[/QUOTE]You have an excellent point there, because MS is only interested in cutting the price if Sony does. As bad as the core is, $200 is a big impulse price, and casuals will pay that price just to get Halo 3 and GTA4. It kind of sucks Sony won't be able to price PS3 that low for several years (due to a HDD), but at $400, they could definitely move some consoles.
 
MS is going to drop 360s price no matter what, the latest would be October because they waiting for the new chip to be ready. Core should drop to $250 to match Wii for an impulse buy. Premium will go $300 or $350 and elite to $400 or $420/425. Once they do that and if PS3 is $600, Sony is el finished.
 
I'm so glad that I'm out of the loop for this generation. I probably would not have bought a console back then if I had to choose between three different versions of the N64 or wait to see which one had better value.
 
[quote name='beltresea38']MS is going to drop 360s price no matter what, the latest would be October because they waiting for the new chip to be ready. Core should drop to $250 to match Wii for an impulse buy. Premium will go $300 or $350 and elite to $400 or $420/425. Once they do that and if PS3 is $600, Sony is el finished.[/quote]
I think they're going to drop the Elite to $399 MSRP and leave it in white. The current Premium will probably fall to $299 MSRP.

Later in the Fall, Sony will, in my opinion, drop the 60GB model in favor of the 80GB for $499
 
[quote name='beltresea38']I don't know if this has been said before but I'll just say it this is my theory on it.

Their thinking is PS3s are selling like shit so they drop the 60GB PS3s to $500 so that could increase sales but then once they are all sold. They will just have 1 SKU at $600 for 80gb hard drive and motorstorm(which could be limited). So if they have 2 SKUs, the bottom one at $500 isn't going to sell at all because people that want a PS3 will be confuse and want the PS3 with the bigger hard drive. Then the thing is PEOPLE THAT WANT PS3 DON'T WANNA SPEND $600 ON A ****IN SYSTEM![/quote]

I said that.

And it was on the top of Yahoo's homepage last night/early this morning.
 
[quote name='lanleague']I think they're going to drop the Elite to $399 MSRP and leave it in white. The current Premium will probably fall to $299 MSRP.

Later in the Fall, Sony will, in my opinion, drop the 60GB model in favor of the 80GB for $499[/QUOTE]And like I said before, depending upon what MS does price wise, Sony will price the PS3 accordingly (meaning its value should be close).
 
Whatever happens, and we have established ad-nauseum that sony's got some PR issues.. (but it seems to repeat itself like skipping record), there's no amount of goodwill, free swag, piles of cash, or hookers that will make some people interested in the PS3 (we've seen that in this thread...) Heck, I would wager if the thing was $129 tomorrow, some of the folks who frequent this website would find a reason to hate it.

The real question for me is this: Is this "clearance" (whatever you want to call it) of the 60GB PS3 going to pave the way for the "high end" model that Sony hinted about back earlier in the year? (Admittedly, it was probably a trial balloon...) Something akin to another "PSX" for the HT crowd? Or, is it to bait Microsoft into a price war? Come out with a non-EE 60GB for $399 and add a $499 80GB sans pack-in, with a 250GB (or HT elite) edition to further muddy the consumer market? :) The world may never know until later.

Who knows? Since none of us work for Sony (no, I don't either... in spite of my apathetic disinterest in "hating" them....) we've got plenty of latitude to speculate and have fun with it... :)

We can always bash Microsoft for shoddy workmanship and Sony for poor PR and making an expensive console... those things will never change. ;)
 
[quote name='Mechafenris']Whatever happens, and we have established ad-nauseum that sony's got some PR issues.. (but it seems to repeat itself like skipping record), there's no amount of goodwill, free swag, piles of cash, or hookers that will make some people interested in the PS3 (we've seen that in this thread...) Heck, I would wager if the thing was $129 tomorrow, some of the folks who frequent this website would find a reason to hate it.

The real question for me is this: Is this "clearance" (whatever you want to call it) of the 60GB PS3 going to pave the way for the "high end" model that Sony hinted about back earlier in the year? (Admittedly, it was probably a trial balloon...) Something akin to another "PSX" for the HT crowd? Or, is it to bait Microsoft into a price war? Come out with a non-EE 60GB for $399 and add a $499 80GB sans pack-in, with a 250GB (or HT elite) edition to further muddy the consumer market? :) The world may never know until later.

Who knows? Since none of us work for Sony (no, I don't either... in spite of my apathetic disinterest in "hating" them....) we've got plenty of latitude to speculate and have fun with it... :)

We can always bash Microsoft for shoddy workmanship and Sony for poor PR and making an expensive console... those things will never change. ;)[/QUOTE]Peter Moore from MS makes all Sony's PR look good (except for Reeves).;)
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']Sony gives me free stuff, so they care.[/quote]

Yea, like HIV and various other STD's since you swallow their load daily.
 
[quote name='help1']Yea, like HIV and various other STD's since you swallow their load daily.[/quote]

:rofl:

But that's ok because he seems to think the PS3 can cure diseases.
 
[quote name='bigdaddy']:rofl:

But that's ok because he seems to think the PS3 can cure diseases.[/QUOTE]

You know, I think it does cure malaria.... :lol:
 
[quote name='beltresea38']MS is going to drop 360s price no matter what, the latest would be October because they waiting for the new chip to be ready. Core should drop to $250 to match Wii for an impulse buy. Premium will go $300 or $350 and elite to $400 or $420/425. Once they do that and if PS3 is $600, Sony is el finished.[/QUOTE]

A $50 drop is hardly anything. People waited almost 2 years for a pathetic $50? Only thing you gain out of that deal is being able to buy older games for a cheaper price. They've already screwed around too long giving the Wii tons of sales to casual gamers who are worried about price, and now 2 years later they drop it $50? It has to be $100 or they shouldn't even bother. I would even be tempted to impulse buy a $200 core, but a $50 drop? Forget it at least as far as I'm concerned.

Edit: Not to mention this helps both Sony and Nintendo. Nintendo can easily pull Wii Sports out and drop it $50 if they wanted to and then sell Wii Sports on the shelf for $20-$30. Sony has 65nm cell on the way just like MS has 65nm on the way, but blu-ray has a lot more room to drop than DVD does. Emotion Engine is being pulled out as well so $500 is easy and $400 is very possible once this is in place and if they get desperate to match the 360.

360 is hitting its prime to an extent with Forza, Halo 3, GTA4, Mass Effect, etc. PS3 still has MGS4 in March along with FF13 on the way, more 1st party titles like Killzone and White Knight, and will be able to match 360 game for game a lot better than when the PS3 didn't exist and 360 was getting more exclusives and the advantage of having most games with 360 as the lead platform. Killzone, MGS4, FF13, GT5, etc. will be big pluses for PS3.
 
[quote name='help1']Yea, like HIV and various other STD's since you swallow their load daily.[/QUOTE]No, I'm talking about demos, hats, DVD case, etc. You're trying to make fun of someone 7 years older than you.
[quote name='bigdaddy']:rofl:

But that's ok because he seems to think the PS3 can cure diseases.[/QUOTE]My PS3 has never folded, only plays games, listens to music, watch movies, etc. ;)
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']I was trying to tell you, the slim core will be $170, but the slim bundles will be $200. I could save $30 and get black, but I rather have silver.[/QUOTE]

You're completely right. I don't know how I missed that.

[quote name='zerolens']A $50 drop is hardly anything. People waited almost 2 years for a pathetic $50? Only thing you gain out of that deal is being able to buy older games for a cheaper price. They've already screwed around too long giving the Wii tons of sales to casual gamers who are worried about price, and now 2 years later they drop it $50? It has to be $100 or they shouldn't even bother. I would even be tempted to impulse buy a $200 core, but a $50 drop? Forget it at least as far as I'm concerned.[/QUOTE]

Well, they can't blow their wad all at once: they need a bit of buffer against future price drops from Sony. If they race to rockbottom, it'll only smack them in the end. And you might be surprised what a $50 drop could do -- look at all the products sold at xx.99 or xx.95, just because the nearest flat dollar makes it seem that much more expensive.
 
[quote name='botticus']Disconfirmed? How did we go full circle again?[/QUOTE]


Because......I....am.......Shane Kim.


no, I dunno, how the hell I'm supposed to keep up with this, they've gone back and forth 10 times. :lol: so the PS3 pricing strat is a cluster fuck. oh well, glad I got one already. back to our regularly scheduled flame war with the Mana Knight.
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']No, I'm talking about demos, hats, DVD case, etc. You're trying to make fun of someone 7 years older than you.[/QUOTE]
No, he's successfully making fun of someone 7 years older than him.
 
Why does it matter if you're 7 years older? It just makes it even more pathetic that you'd cry if Sony folded up their gaming tents and went back to just making TVs and stereos.
 
Guess I better go ahead and snag up my 60 GB PS3, because if I don't get one at $499 and the 80 GB is going to be $599, I won't even think about getting one until it drops.
 
"We have ample inventory to meet the immediate needs of consumers in this territory for several months to come," Dave Karraker said in an e-mailed response to questions.
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Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter said in a research note that Sony had an estimated 2 million to 3 million 60-gigabyte models in inventory and that once they were sold out, it would lower the price on the 80-gigabyte version.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070716/tc_nm/sony_playstation_dc&printer=1;_ylt=AgriHpFtKGUS6BdFFcHe0PJU.3QA

It's almost sad that Sony has fallen this fast and this much. No one wants them. I will laugh if no one wants a PS3 60GB at the new price and they have to drop the price again.
 
[quote name='bigdaddy']http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070716/tc_nm/sony_playstation_dc&printer=1;_ylt=AgriHpFtKGUS6BdFFcHe0PJU.3QA

It's almost sad that Sony has fallen this fast and this much. No one wants them. I will laugh if no one wants a PS3 60GB at the new price and they have to drop the price again.[/quote]Have you not been keeping up? PS3 sales are pretty good since the drop of the 60GB.

Manager at an EB sold 19 of their 21 units. Getting another 30 or so next week, and says tons of people have been calling about it.

Only question is will it last.
 
Sony is basically telling consumers not to buy their hardware anytime soon, because they'll switch up the hardware every 7 months and drop the price.

I don't see why they're doing these higher storage versions, since the PS3 has the most easily swappable storage.. Guess people have to have big numbers on the box to tell if something is the best or not.
 
[quote name='dallow']Have you not been keeping up? PS3 sales are pretty good since the drop of the 60GB.

Manager at an EB sold 19 of their 21 units. Getting another 30 or so next week, and says tons of people have been calling about it.

Only question is will it last.[/quote]

Wow! They are sellnig well because the last few days Sony has had stories about this on the Yahoo Homepage. Plus 1 EB has been selling them? That's a breakout hit! There are only thousands of EB/GS stores, but one must mean it's a fact!

How long did the extreme selling of the PS3 last when it launched? Two weeks?

How are game sales? Those will show the truth more too. People want a "cheap" Blu-Ray drive, not a gaming system with no blockbusters.
 
[quote name='jer7583']Sony is basically telling consumers not to buy their hardware anytime soon, because they'll switch up the hardware every 7 months and drop the price.

I don't see why they're doing these higher storage versions, since the PS3 has the most easily swappable storage.. Guess people have to have big numbers on the box to tell if something is the best or not.[/QUOTE]

Unlike, say...
xbox360elite.jpg
?

Now, you're contradicting yourself in this post. You're saying that Sony too continually changes the hardware configurations of the console, but that the only real difference is the HDD size. So, if it's just that (and at least give them the credit of being able to pick and choose when and how to upgrade that HDD, instead of spending $180 on a 120GB HDD), then what's the big deal? Is it still a major difference if they're "changing up the hardware," as you say, when it is really a superficial difference that any consumer can make on their own?
 
[quote name='mykevermin']
Now, you're contradicting yourself in this post. You're saying that Sony too continually changes the hardware configurations of the console, but that the only real difference is the HDD size. So, if it's just that (and at least give them the credit of being able to pick and choose when and how to upgrade that HDD, instead of spending $180 on a 120GB HDD), then what's the big deal? Is it still a major difference if they're "changing up the hardware," as you say, when it is really a superficial difference that any consumer can make on their own?[/QUOTE]

I agree that the proprietary HDD is BS, but can consumers install their own HDMI port?
 
[quote name='orimental']I agree that the proprietary HDD is BS, but can consumers install their own HDMI port?[/QUOTE]

Of course not. I was talking abour jer's claims that the PS3 is going through far too many hardware revisions far too quickly, while he later admits that the only substantial change is the larger HDD. I only brought up the Elite because he's criticizing Sony for doing something that only, for the moment anyway, Nintendo is innocent of doing.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Of course not. I was talking abour jer's claims that the PS3 is going through far too many hardware revisions far too quickly, while he later admits that the only substantial change is the larger HDD. I only brought up the Elite because he's criticizing Sony for doing something that only, for the moment anyway, Nintendo is innocent of doing.[/quote]Whether its componentized to the point where the end-user can upgrade or not, multiple SKUs only serve to confuse, moreso when you're the average consumer who doesn't know how to or even that they can upgrade. One hardware iteration is fine, unless you're fixing something that's broken. Sadly I doubt even Nintendo will avoid this issue over the course of the generation.

As Kaz says, the market responds better to one SKU... but the point is rather lost if you keep changing the SKU.
 
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