No more 60GB PlayStation 3

[quote name='elmyra']Oh, man. This is simultaneously the saddest and greatest thing I've ever read on CAG. :rofl:[/QUOTE]

No shit. He really needs to get a life if what he wrote is remotely true.

It's just a piece of hardware to play games on for god's sake!
 
Well, I'm out of things to say (Just leave my personal problems to PMs, I'll discuss everything), but if you want a PS3, go buy one now at $500. If you want to wait until it gets cheaper, go ahead and wait, it eventually will. I felt $600 is too much for a gaming console, but $500 was perfect, which is why I'm glad I bought my 20GB model. To an extent, I'm debating whether I buy another PS3 (a 60GB model), just for I can have WiFi and larger HDD space.
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']To an extent, I'm debating whether I buy another PS3 (a 60GB model), just for I can have WiFi and larger HDD space.[/quote]

You can do that cheaper (getting bigger HD and wifi) by buying a sata HD and wifi adapter for your currenty PS3 (seen some CAG's getting adapter for around $25).
 
[quote name='Dr Mario Kart']Another article/quote to contend with: http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/13/sony-says-60gb-is-not-over-in-us/



I'm sure he was mistaken along with Reeves and Kaz though. So much false information being spread![/quote]

Lot of back and forth/wiping shoe goo out of the mouths:

60Gig has stopped production. There's still lots of units (or something) out there in store inventories. They're now saying they have enough to keep consumer demand satisfied for a few months.
 
[quote name='dallow']Gosh dmaul1114, It's like you don't want your Wii, or a PS3.[/QUOTE]

Pretty much. Well I want the Wii for Metroid and Mario, not sure after that. PS3 currently has no appeal to me at all, despite the PS2 being my most played last gen. I just can't see buying one this gen.

360 is where it's at, but $400 is still too much for a game machine. If it drops to $300 for the premium I'll be all over it.

But yes, in general this generation has sucked balls so far IMO.
 
[quote name='Zoglog']this is kind of funny, the SCEE guy totally fucked it up :). poor Sony PR guys have to clean up this mess

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6430&Itemid=2

like I said it's all irrelevant since the 60GB is still plentiful and still $499.[/QUOTE]That same guy also said the popularity of GTA4 will fade, and MS buying the extra content is meaningless. The guy is a moron and should be fired asap. Even I could do a better job running SCEE.
 
It's pretty simple.

If you want a 60gb get one before they run out in the coming months...this thread really doesn't need as much arguing as it has.
 
[quote name='whoknows']It's pretty simple.

If you want a 60gb get one before they run out in the coming months...this thread really doesn't need as much arguing as it has.[/QUOTE]
But it is a thread about Sony. What else would there be to talk about?

Always take a wait and see with all news stories in the internet age. Everyone is always trying to be first without knowing all the facts.
 
[quote name='whoknows']It's pretty simple.

If you want a 60gb get one before they run out in the coming months...this thread really doesn't need as much arguing as it has.[/QUOTE]

The problem is a lot of people still think $500 for the 60GB is too much, and were hoping this was just the first of a series of price drops that would happen every six months or so from here on out.

But if they drop it, and keep the 80gb at $600, then it will likely be a LONG time before it hits that $250-300 sweet spot.

But know skin off my nose as all they're doing is killing their own sales which will kill any chance they have of getting new 3rd party exclusives. I can live without Final Fantasy XIII and Sony's 1st party stuff.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']The problem is a lot of people still think $500 for the 60GB is too much, and were hoping this was just the first of a series of price drops that would happen every six months or so from here on out.

But if they drop it, and keep the 80gb at $600, then it will likely be a LONG time before it hits that $250-300 sweet spot.

But know skin off my nose as all they're doing is killing their own sales which will kill any chance they have of getting new 3rd party exclusives. I can live without Final Fantasy XIII and Sony's 1st party stuff.[/QUOTE]
It WILL be a long time before it gets that cheap. No doubt about it. Expecting it to get that cheap anytime soon is expecting way too much.
 
As I said before, knowing 2 things to be the case:
1) The Motorstorm bundle is $600
2) The Motorstorm bundle is a 'limited edition' (based on the box, at any rate)

Then we won't see it forever. Eventually it will be replaced by another set (sweet jesus stop changing the system configuration at the very least - have SKUs out the wazoo, but quit fuckin' with the system itself!).

The most plausible scenario is the 80GB moving down to the $500 pricepoint once 60GB are depleted enough - the presence of a handful of 20GB on the market did not stop the 60GB from moving to $500, and, likewise, if the 60GB are mostly sold out come Fall, then nothing will stop the 80GB from taking its spot.

Sony is making too much noise at the moment, so much so that they managed to damage the one flippin' thing - the $500 60GB PS3 - that had quelled a LOT of the anti-Sony sentiment. Their employees need to keep their fuckin' mouths shut, y'know? Kaz, the Euro guy...the whole gang.

[quote name='The Mana Knight']I'm a little sensitive towards negative comments towards my PS3 because its somewhat like my child. I really like mine and want it to be around. The bashing can make me feel insecure at times, which is why I blow up.[/QUOTE]

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[quote name='The Mana Knight']Okay, I'll admit everything.

There's no denying, I am a Sony fan. I really like my PS3 now and I've enjoyed all my PlayStation platforms. I will NOT lie, Sony does stupid things from time to time, but I'm not going to start supporting MS or Nintendo anytime soon, because I do enjoy PS3 and I can't wait for many of their first party games. But at the same time, all the hate Sony gets here really bothers me. Every time some thread about some positive PS3 news is posted, all the Wii60 nerds come in and start bashing Sony and PS3 (even non-owners). I'm just getting tired of it, which is why I'm arguing and saying kind of dumb stuff. There's no denying I'm a little sensitive towards negative comments towards my PS3 because its somewhat like my child. I really like mine and want it to be around. The bashing can make me feel insecure at times, which is why I blow up.

Most Sony fanboys here who know me personally, know I'm really not bad, I just get very defensive over the PlayStation brand, which has been one of the most important things in my life. I really like my PlayStation and I'd seriously cry if it came to an end one day.
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[quote name='The Mana Knight']

Most Sony fanboys here who know me personally, know I'm really not bad, I just get very defensive over the PlayStation brand, which has been one of the most important things in my life. I really like my PlayStation and I'd seriously cry if it came to an end one day.
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OMFG :rofl:

This deserves to be posted on every message board on the interweb.
 
Sony seriously needs to keep their talking heads better informed. Stuff like this can cause 'massive damage' to their brand.

Edit: Has anyone ever noticed that both Slidecage and The Mana Knight both live in Fort Wayne, IN? What the hell do they put in the water over there?
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']
I can live without Final Fantasy XIII and Sony's 1st party stuff.[/QUOTE]As big as I am into PlayStation, I can't live without a Nintendo platform or MS platform. I really like video games and want to have access to all the games available. Everyone produces first party games which are must haves. I don't own a Wii right now and it's kind of driving me crazy for not owning one right now (I hope to get one). I just couldn't live without owning every platform personally.
[quote name='mtxbass1']Sony seriously needs to keep their talking heads better informed. Stuff like this can cause 'massive damage' to their brand.[/QUOTE]The thing is, MS is more centralized while SCE is more divided into territories. Because of that, they don't always know what's going on at each part of the world.

As for slidecage (let's not get into this), we live on opposite sides of town and never met before. He's cool so shut up.
 
Fanboys in General are all the same. It doesn't matter which brand they sport. Nintendo fanboys are just as annoying as 360 fanboys and Sony Fanboys.

and all I really see is a whole lot of fanboys arguing with each other....
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']
As for slidecage (let's not get into this), we live on opposite sides of town and never met before. He's cool so shut up.[/quote]

But you do both drink from the same water system right?:whistle2:k
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']Okay, I'll admit everything.

There's no denying, I am a Sony fan. I really like my PS3 now and I've enjoyed all my PlayStation platforms. I will NOT lie, Sony does stupid things from time to time, but I'm not going to start supporting MS or Nintendo anytime soon, because I do enjoy PS3 and I can't wait for many of their first party games. But at the same time, all the hate Sony gets here really bothers me. Every time some thread about some positive PS3 news is posted, all the Wii60 nerds come in and start bashing Sony and PS3 (even non-owners). I'm just getting tired of it, which is why I'm arguing and saying kind of dumb stuff. There's no denying I'm a little sensitive towards negative comments towards my PS3 because its somewhat like my child. I really like mine and want it to be around. The bashing can make me feel insecure at times, which is why I blow up.

Most Sony fanboys here who know me personally, know I'm really not bad, I just get very defensive over the PlayStation brand, which has been one of the most important things in my life. I really like my PlayStation and I'd seriously cry if it came to an end one day.


Yeah, but also, Sony may still have tons of 60GB consoles sitting in the factory now, we really don't know right now. And if it is being discountinued, then why is Europe and Japan still getting a 60GB model? Right now, only Sony themselves knows, and they aren't answering the question. It's best to just enjoy our PS3 and forget what just happened.[/QUOTE]





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[quote name='The Mana Knight']As big as I am into PlayStation, I can't live without a Nintendo platform or MS platform. I really like video games and want to have access to all the games available. Everyone produces first party games which are must haves. I don't own a Wii right now and it's kind of driving me crazy for not owning one right now (I hope to get one). I just couldn't live without owning every platform personally.
The thing is, MS is more centralized while SCE is more divided into territories. Because of that, they don't always know what's going on at each part of the world.
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I had all three last gen. But I'm lucky if I can even put 5 hours a week into games this generation as I'm much busier than before. My interest in gaming has waned some as well, on top of having less leisure time.

So definitely no need for all 3, and the Wii60 is the best bet price and gamewise right now for my tastes and budget, so Sony is the odd man out. Maybe I'll pick one up toward the end of the generation when they're dirt cheap and there's a ton of $10-20 games.
 
Sony is getting exceedingly good at stealing their own thunder. The most positive news for them lately was the price drop so how do they turn that around? Announce that its merely an inventory closeout sale!
 
We got this clarified statement from Karraker, who said "The 60GB PS3 will be available in North America for $499 until supplies of that unit are depleted. We have ample inventory to meet the immediate needs of consumers in this territory for several months to come. We won't be making any further announcements regarding our PS3 model hardware strategy in North America until the 60GB model is exhausted and market conditions are evaluated."
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So in other words...

"The PS3 is selling like shit because it is shit and has so few games because it's selling like shit and no one is developing for it. So because of how shity our product is, and the fact no one wants it we are putting them on clearence for the low low price of only $500!!! But as soon as there might be ok games to play we will release an even newer model with 500GB of memory for the low low price of $2,500! That's a low price because it can cure diseases."
 
[quote name='mtxbass1']

Edit: Has anyone ever noticed that both Slidecage and The Mana Knight both live in Fort Wayne, IN? What the hell do they put in the water over there?[/quote]

Someone def needs to do some toxicology testing in that city.
 
No, you see no one really knows what The Matrix is exactly. We think what we are doing is real, but real is something we don't want to know.

The Matrix has you
 
[quote name='bigdaddy']So in other words...

"The PS3 is selling like shit because it is shit and has so few games because it's selling like shit and no one is developing for it. So because of how shity our product is, and the fact no one wants it we are putting them on clearence for the low low price of only $500!!! But as soon as there might be ok games to play we will release an even newer model with 500GB of memory for the low low price of $2,500! That's a low price because it can cure diseases."[/QUOTE]


wow, are we stuck in January of 2007 or what?
 
Here is how I see it.

They are tricking us consumers. Everyeone will rush to pick up a 60g PS3 before they are gone and when the rush subsides, they will begin production again of the 60 gig.

amirite?
 
[quote name='Sexbomb']Here is how I see it.

They are tricking us consumers. Everyeone will rush to pick up a 60g PS3 before they are gone and when the rush subsides, they will begin production again of the 60 gig.

amirite?[/QUOTE]If anything, they want to make people buy the 60GB now because they are suppose to be discontinued. They want people to think the 80GB is more so people go with the 60GB. Once 60GB is gone, sell 80GB for $500. They got rid of all the 60GB models and can now move to the 80GB, to save money.
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']If anything, they want to make people buy the 60GB now because they are suppose to be discontinued. They want people to think the 80GB is more so people go with the 60GB. Once 60GB is gone, sell 80GB for $500. They got rid of all the 60GB models and can now move to the 80GB, to save money.[/quote]

You are the god damn dumbest fuck I have ever seen here.
 
That is the correct logic though. Clearly they would rather have a $500 than $600 price point. Clearly they want only one SKU. They're not going to keep the 80 gig at $600.
 
That strategy didn't work with the 20gb. Why would it work with the 60gb? People will want the best thing possible. If they're going to put down that amount cash, they better get the highest end piece of hardware their money can buy.
 
Eh, that's what there strategy probably will be. They'll ditch Motorstorm post holiday season and drop the price again in March after all of the 60 GB PS3s are out of stock. A 60 GB PS3 will not sell to the average consumer when sitting next to an 80 GB one when they're at the same price. This isn't a huge deal folks. Having said that, I really need the cash to pick up a PS3 right now.
 
They might, But I don't see the 80GB droping before Thanksgiving, but that doesn't change the fact of how amazingly foolish he is.
 
The statement you quoted is the truth though. Sony is doing this to try and save money by getting rid of the emotion engine from their systems. They're also not completely screwing the consumer because they're giving them the extra 20 GB of space in lieu of the EE. Mana Knight may post a lot of things I disagree with, but that's something he's right on the money with.
 
But everyone please, let's NOT jump to conclusions until there are next to no 60GB PS3 consoles available. Right now, lets just be happy there's a pricecut. If there are no 60GB PS3 consoles left and if Sony is charging $600 for an 80GB with MotorStorm, then we can all complain at the official PS Blog telling them how stupid they are.

If Sony sees PS3 isn't selling well, they WILL drop the price more (also, Sony stated themselves they want to please third party publishers and if they don't, they'll make a lot upset). If E3 would have been sooner, I guarantee Sony would have dropped the PS3 price sooner. The PS3 is the most important product to them and they will do what it takes to push it (If you notice, they ignore PSP and PS2 a lot, because PS3 is their main focus).

Like I said before, if Sony plans to cut the price of the 80GB model, they are not going to answer that question now because they want to get rid of the 60GB model first. If they told everyone know it would be priced at $500, I guarantee PS3 would lose many potential sales until the 80GB is out, and they might have trouble pushing the 60GB out (unless it was some magical price like $400).

Although if I was running Sony, this is what I'd do:
-Price the 60GB at $499.99
-Price the 80GB MotorStorm bundle at $559.99.

Those who want MotorStorm can get the game for free, and get larger HDD space. Although the 60GB might be phased out slower, it will still occur, since there are people out there who don't want MotorStorm. Once the 60GB is gone, drop MotorStorm and retail at $499.99 (or if anything, just leave MotorStorm in and expose more people to the game).
 
Wait. To sum up nine pages of posts: The 60gig is $500, and the 80gig is $600. The 60gig isn't being made anymore, so when it's gone, it's gone, and EE BC with it. Then the price drop will be negated by the $600 unit being the only one available, until they kill Motorstorm, and make the 80 gig $500.

So basically, this is all some elaborate method of Sony saying there'll be a price drop ... eventually. Got it. Well, at least it's in line with whatever the hell they're thinking pricing the slim PSP at $200 with a bunch of pack-in crap.

Also, The Mana Knight = DragonLordFrodo?
 
[quote name='trq']
So basically, this is all some elaborate method of Sony saying there'll be a price drop ... eventually. Got it. Well, at least it's in line with whatever the hell they're thinking pricing the slim PSP at $200 with a bunch of pack-in crap.

Also, The Mana Knight = DragonLordFrodo?[/QUOTE]The core PSP price isn't changing price though. They aren't telling us though, but that's the case. I'm paying an extra $30 since I want silver.

Who is that???
 
this news is just media sensationalization. Anyone making a big deal out of this one way or another is being too damn fanboy. Just let the announcements flow, nothing's really changed. Yer all just a bunch of rubbernecking fucktards :D

This whole situation is just lols :)

My fav bits are the ones like

Yesterday: "OMG PS3 Price Drop! I'm so getting one tomorrow after that press conference and announcements!"
Today: "WTF!? No price Drop!? Huh!? 60GB phasing out?! OMG! Screw you Sony I no get you no mores!"

and it's like... "dood you can still get it for $499....."

btw, nintendo wins, unanimously....
 
lol, I just love how all this ruckus was caused by the SCEE being backed into a corner and trying to shift negative attention to the US when grilled about how the EU wasn't getting any price cuts. Oh man, I think the only thing worth following here is to see if that guy gets fired :D
 
[quote name='Zoglog']lol, I just love how all this ruckus was caused by the SCEE being backed into a corner and trying to shift negative attention to the US when grilled about how the EU wasn't getting any price cuts. Oh man, I think the only thing worth following here is to see if that guy gets fired :D[/quote]Well, it seems like he blew it, but the Kaz interview looked to have been recorded the day of the conference... so I think he blew it first, which is probably why the SCEE guy didn't think it was a big deal to talk about it (it was a European TV station?).

The moral of the story is, no one understands PR at Sony.

And as far as why this is somewhat annoying, is because it seemed like now was the time to jump in if $500 was an okay price point for you (or closer to $400 if you could work the deals right). But now that we are starting to understand Sony's apparent plan here, there's no point in jumping in now to grab a $500 PS3 when there isn't anything you're interested in - there will be a better $500 PS3 next year, or even in 6 months, not just the same thing at $400.
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']The core PSP price isn't changing price though. They aren't telling us though, but that's the case. I'm paying an extra $30 since I want silver.

Who is that???[/QUOTE]

Well, if you're inclined to buy a regular one at $170, then the slim is probably worth the extra $30. That makes sense. But as much as I'm tempted to finally pull the trigger on a slim, I can't help but want to wait until they drop all the extra stuff I have no interest in. In short, I'd rather the system were cheaper, rather than the same ol' price, but with more stuff I don't want. It's a subtle but important difference.
 
[quote name='botticus']Well, it seems like he blew it, but the Kaz interview looked to have been recorded the day of the conference... so I think he blew it first, which is probably why the SCEE guy didn't think it was a big deal to talk about it (it was a European TV station?).

The moral of the story is, no one understands PR at Sony.

And as far as why this is somewhat annoying, is because it seemed like now was the time to jump in if $500 was an okay price point for you (or closer to $400 if you could work the deals right). But now that we are starting to understand Sony's apparent plan here, there's no point in jumping in now to grab a $500 PS3 when there isn't anything you're interested in - there will be a better $500 PS3 next year, or even in 6 months, not just the same thing at $400.[/QUOTE]

seems like the execs need to go into home more often and synchronize :D
 
[quote name='trq']Well, if you're inclined to buy a regular one at $170, then the slim is probably worth the extra $30. That makes sense. But as much as I'm tempted to finally pull the trigger on a slim, I can't help but want to wait until they drop all the extra stuff I have no interest in. In short, I'd rather the system were cheaper, rather than the same ol' price, but with more stuff I don't want. It's a subtle but important difference.[/QUOTE]I was trying to tell you, the slim core will be $170, but the slim bundles will be $200. I could save $30 and get black, but I rather have silver.
 
[quote name='Zoglog']seems like the execs need to go into home more often and synchronize :D[/quote]:rofl:

"Hey Kaz... RIIIIIIIIIDGE RACERRRR!"

While that was good, I have to say that Shrike gave me my first laugh of this thread. Enjoying his non-mod status to the max. :lol:
 
So what are we estimating as far as the duration of the availability of the 60GB model? Assuming 1.2 million in the pipeline, I would have said maybe 6-8 months at $500. That's averaging more than double their current sales (which takes into account holiday uptick).

But with this news that the 80GB will likely be $500 shortly after the 60GB goes away, I'm thinking sales of the 60GB won't double after all. So maybe sticking with the high-end 8-10 month range?
 
[quote name='SithFran']Anyone know when the guitars will be able to hook up to the PS3? What about dance mats?[/QUOTE]Dance mats work with the pelican adapter. As for Guitars, blame Red Octane on that one, for trying to protect against copy right, and made any adapter not work for GH2.

Although many may think I'm a blind Sony fanboy (I only do this here because it seems to be anti-Sony, so I will support them more. If its a PlayStation site, I tend to be more critical of Sony). This is what I posted at the blog, showing some anger at them:
Sony, I love PlayStation, but I gotta say something.

The general public does NOT have $599.99 for a game console. Many of them feel its way too much for a console. Pricing the 60GB at $499.99 was an excellent move and Sony should never charge $599.99 for a console again. If you want to release the MotorStorm bundle, sell it at $549.99-$579.99, to keep that $599.99 price tag forgotten. If Microsoft really drops the price of every Xbox 360 SKU by $100, you can forget PS3 having any sort of success, especially if you’re trying to compare it against a $599.99 SKU. Please Sony, I really love the PlayStation brand and I’m okay with it being priced slightly more than the 360 (since it is worth more), but do NOT ever price the console more than $499.99 for now. Third party devs will stop bringing games to PS3, your own 1st party game sales won’t be too high (due to a tiny userbase), and the bad press will continue making people weary of buying a PS3. Yes PS2 was successful, but if you keep the price too high, people will buy the competition and skip PS3.

With PS3 being priced at $599.99, you sell 70k a month (which is pathetic saleswise) and you even get beat by the GBA (which is already dead basically). Please, don’t ever price a console at $599.99 only again. If you do, I might have to consider getting rid of all my 175+ PS2 games, 57 PSP games, 50 PS1 games, and 12 PS3 games.

I’m okay with PS3 not being the market leader, but I do want to see decent sales so PS3 gets good support. Sony’s makes the best first party games, but third party devs are greatly important too.
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