Obesity

It's cheaper to eat in rather than eating out, especially with a family. Even more so if you like box dinners and frozen foods.

Obesity Edit:
Why is at least 75% of the Hispanic kids I see look grossely obese? A 8 year old shouldn't look - round. These kids look more Indigenous/Native Hispanc as opposed to Spaniard Hispanic if you get my drift.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Never watched it. I do watch food porn shows on occasion, though - caught 15 minutes of some pastry show on Sunday AM and am now determined to hit up the momofuku milk bar some time in the next few weeks to try their crack pie.

I used to really dig Gordon Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares until it became painfully apparent that he applied the same philosophy to every restaurant he went to, hammed up and oversold how awful the food was, manufactured schisms and feuds within the business, and most sordidly, clearly didn't give a flying fuck about killing the business he was at.

I did watch the motherloving fuck out of Top Chef, but the last season I saw was maybe 2008ish.[/QUOTE]

The UK versiob of nightmares is ten times bettrr. You can catch it on the BBC.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Never watched it. I do watch food porn shows on occasion, though[/QUOTE]

Seriously, take an hour and watch it at some point. It is so freaking addictive. It's on Tuesdays at 10pm on Food Network (HD) but reruns are on all the time. The premise is so simple and so awesome - 4 chefs and three rounds (appetizer, entree and dessert). One chef gets eliminated ("chopped") after each round. They are judged on taste, presentation and creativity. The catch is that there is a "mystery basket" for each round with 4 ingredients they MUST use in their dish and it is always weird shit. They also only have 20 minutes for the appetizer and 30 minutes for each of the entree and dessert so it is a crazy rush for every round. It is great - even the judges are fun to watch because they act like they are the authority on what tastes good and how food should be prepared.

I can't believe I just spent 5 minutes typing this up - I must really like this show.

[quote name='seanr1221']Breakfast is always easy for me. Egg whites and two slices of turkey bacon.

Lunch I have a tablespoon of natural PB on whole wheat and a 1/4 cup of almonds. Keeps me really full and takes 30 seconds to prepare.[/QUOTE]

I need to try that lunch. I do egg whites and one slice of ham (chopped up and cooked in the eggs) in the morning and I love it. It's great for the workout and weight loss routine.
 
[quote name='eldergamer']Obesity Edit:
Why is at least 75% of the Hispanic kids I see look grossely obese?[/QUOTE]

ethnocentrism at best, racism at worst? Most kids are obese these days, no need to single out one group.

[quote name='Msut77']The UK versiob of nightmares is ten times bettrr. You can catch it on the BBC.[/QUOTE]

The first few episodes, sure. But it still suffers from the same problems. A lot fewer brusque, hypermasculine bro-dudes in the UK version, though.
 
I guess the biggest problem I have when it comes to eating is that I must have variety. Eating is about the only exciting thing that happens during the day and I'd just assume not eat if it's not exciting.

I can't eat the same thing every day, even if it's healthy or cheap. It must be different, and it must be exciting. If I didn't care about variety or how good the food is, I'd find a way to just supply my nutrition through an IV and/or vitamins.

So until I can afford my own full time cook, I doubt I'll eat healthy or as often as I should (I eat roughly 1-1.5 meals a day).
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Eating is about the only exciting thing that happens during the day and I'd just assume not eat if it's not exciting.[/QUOTE]

I'm so sorry for you. Just out of [morbid] curiosity, what restaurants are you eating at that a
 
We work out what we're going to eat for dinner for the next two weeks, go shopping and buy mainly just those things. Then we know what we're going to make, not too much hassle and we have leftovers the next afternoon for lunch. Breakfast is usually cereal and any snacks might be a granola bar or crackers, nuts, dried fruit, etc. My wife cooks and I clean and it's been working for us for many years.
 
Thrust, have you ever been checked for depression. I don't think I've ever seen a positive post from you. It's all whining and ranting, especially anything about your life. It's always about how you hate working and will never be happy working, always tired and burned out, can't bother too cook or eat healthy etc.

Just sayin'.


As for needing variety, that does eliminate being able to cook a bunch and eat left overs for a few days. I don't mind that personally as I just eat to eat when I'm cooking for myself and get my variety and more flavorful meals the few times I eat out a week (though I still try to stay healthy other than maybe one meal a week where I just eat whatever I want).

But even without the leftovers you can get some variety and eat healthier without a lot of cooking. Buy a few different kinds of fruit instead of a bunch of one kind. Mix up the type of sandwiches you make for lunch and so on.
 
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[quote name='Javery']
I need to try that lunch. I do egg whites and one slice of ham (chopped up and cooked in the eggs) in the morning and I love it. It's great for the workout and weight loss routine.[/QUOTE]

Natural PB is so much better than the processed crap. Same price too at CostCo.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I used to really dig Gordon Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares until it became painfully apparent that he applied the same philosophy to every restaurant he went to, hammed up and oversold how awful the food was, manufactured schisms and feuds within the business, and most sordidly, clearly didn't give a flying fuck about killing the business he was at.[/QUOTE]
I still love the show despite how contrived it is. My main beef is that theses places are so much in debt to begin with that I can't imagine how they haven't already closed, not to mention the skimming off the top with the owners looking like they live pretty good despite the money trap they're in.

[quote name='eldergamer']It's cheaper to eat in rather than eating out, especially with a family. Even more so if you like box dinners and frozen foods.

Obesity Edit:
Why is at least 75% of the Hispanic kids I see look grossely obese? A 8 year old shouldn't look - round. These kids look more Indigenous/Native Hispanc as opposed to Spaniard Hispanic if you get my drift.[/QUOTE]
I'd wager that boxed/frozen foods don't offer much in terms of nutritional value beyond caloric content despite being cheap.

In regards to your later statement, this has already been addressed many times in this thread. While not limited to Latinos, familes that are working poor generally tend to not have that much money or the time to prepare a healthy home cooked meal. It's much easier to pick up something quick on the way back, which is probably one of the main reasons why you have a glut of fast food restaurants in economically depressed areas.
 
Yeah, TV dinners are useless in terms of nutrition. You can avoid obesity by eating the lower calorie/fat ones like Lean Cuisine or Healthy Choice, but you're still not getting proper nutrients, getting too much sodium, lots of preservatives etc.

So they shouldn't be a staple of anyone's diet. They're just a quick fill in when one doesn't have time to get a real meal and just needs the calories. And for that it's less unhealthy to go with something like Lean Cuisine that's at least lower calorie and fat than something like a Hungry Man TV dinner that's high calorie and full of fat. Just don't pretend that the lean cuisine is "healthy"....it's just less "unhealthy" than some other frozen dinner options.


As for Hispanics, another thing to keep in mind is some Hispanic nationalities tend to be shorter and stockier in build. Thus they're going to look "round" at lower body fat percentages than someone that has a taller and leaner build.
 
This is such a big problem that I don't even know where to start, but I have noticed some disturbing trends.

In my community there are more fast food restaurants than there ever were. There are at least 10 more than there were when I was growing up.

An even bigger problem is that some of the land where kids used to play on have been converted into these fast food restaurants and shopping complexes. I have literately watched the places I used to play outside as a kid get covered with shopping malls and more restaurants. While I support the idea that we need more restaurants to bring much needed jobs to this area, when is too much too much? In some areas here there are about 15-20 places to eat within a mile and that is not a joke. There is no doubt in my mind that this has contributed to obesity in our area. We have removed playgrounds and replaced them with fast food!

The playground equipment has been removed and downgraded for fear of injuries which means someone could sue the city or state if their kid gets hurt on the playground equipment. This is another big problem, and this mentality has to go away or else obesity in kids will never cease. We used to have tons of playground equipment here, now all that is left is grass and a few swings. That is for the playgrounds that have not been converted to shopping areas and fast food districts. The slides, monkey bars, see saws are all gone, because they are now considered too dangerous for children. If they made playgrounds interesting, kids might actually want to go to them. I know I begged and begged to go to the playground as a kid.

I have also noticed a disturbing amount of children that are way above walking age still being carted around in strollers that they are busting out of, again this has to stop. If your kid is 6-8 years old they should not be being pushed in a stroller. The last time I checked the purpose of a stroller was to push your too young to walk child around.

The city and state parks now charge for parking, when previously parking was free. Some families cannot afford this cost, and thus they do not go to the park, when previously they used to go. The cost is around $10 to park. Walking around a neighborhood in my area is not practical, just trust me about that. The obvious solution would be to allow residents with local driver's licenses to park for free, but the city is too cheap to do that!!!! If you want people to exercise you have to give them a free place where they can do that. The free exercise has now been taken away.
 
FYI depression doesn't have to equal feeling sad or suicidal. It can also just be feeling lethargic, apathetic etc.

I mean what you describe isn't some shitty life where it's understandable to feel down/lethargic all the time. It's just life in general. Most everyone spends most of their time working, doing chores and sleeping. You just have to make the most of the precious free time and always have that to look forward to. Having a job you enjoy is a plus as well of course, or at the least having one you don't hate and dread going to everyday.
 
Yeah in that case, I'm most likely depressed by that definition. I'm pretty apathetic :)

I know most people feel that way, as you describe. Perhaps I'm just a bit more bitter about it because I grew up in a house where my father loved his job so that was "normal" to me. I quickly felt not-normal.

Yeah that short span of time between work and sleep is what life is all about, eh? That's why we have video games...... and food :)
 
Well, that's why it's so important to find a career you ideally love, or at least like ok so you don't dread going to work everyday. We'd all mostly rather be doing things other than working, but it's a lot easier to swallow if you like your job ok.

But other wise, yeah, maximizing enjoyment of free time nights and weekends is key. Too many people lounge around and don't do anything in their time off and thus are miserable as they hate their job and have little to look forward to on nights and weekends.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Oh let's see...
Actually most of them are local places, not chains. A lot of it is done with coupons ( I am a cag, after all).

But for chains....
Denny's, in n out, Smashburger, village inn, ihop, texas roadhouse, outback (granted the last two it's more like we can eat for $12-$15)[/QUOTE]

Yikes. That actually saddens me.

I know we've had our differences of opinion in the past but I'm not liking what I am reading here. If you ever want advice or info about how to eat healthy, develop a weekly meal plan or even just want cooking knowledge by all means ask away. I will gladly make the time to teach you about the joy of real food.
 
[quote name='cochesecochese']Yikes. That actually saddens me.

I know we've had our differences of opinion in the past but I'm not liking what I am reading here. If you ever want advice or info about how to eat healthy, develop a weekly meal plan or even just want cooking knowledge by all means ask away. I will gladly make the time to teach you about the joy of real food.[/QUOTE]

Don't get me wrong. I'm probably painting an extreme picture (as usual).

I probably eat out, for lunch, 3-4 times a week. Perhaps 2 times a week for dinner (How can you ignore tuesday 3/$1 taco night at del taco?). One dinner on the weekend as part of "going out."

I am not a nutritionalist, but I think my biggest problem is probably not WHAT I eat but probably how often I usually only have one meal a day (lunch). My metabolism is so slow I'm just rarely hungry before or after lunch. If I am, it's not until 9 or 10 PM. I eat so rarely that I think it just FEELS to me like most of my meals are eating out. If I ate three meals a day eating what I eat, no doubt I'd be obese.

The past month or so we have been eating more at home as my wife looks for a job she doesn't mind whipping something up and cleaning up - that and our garden is currently popping enough tomatoes and peppers for 3 households.
 
I eat out once per week max - for cost reasons and for health reasons.

I made a homemade pesto and artichoke hoagie last night; got some leftovers for lunch. I fucking win.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Never watched it. I do watch food porn shows on occasion, though - caught 15 minutes of some pastry show on Sunday AM and am now determined to hit up the momofuku milk bar some time in the next few weeks to try their crack pie.

I used to really dig Gordon Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares until it became painfully apparent that he applied the same philosophy to every restaurant he went to, hammed up and oversold how awful the food was, manufactured schisms and feuds within the business, and most sordidly, clearly didn't give a flying fuck about killing the business he was at.

I did watch the motherloving fuck out of Top Chef, but the last season I saw was maybe 2008ish.[/QUOTE]
I used to love that show until I realized how stupid the premise is. Do these folks not know who he is? Do they think he'll come in, love the food, and walk out? Have they never seen the show?
 
I eat lunch out twice a week this semester as I have two classes in a building a 15+ minute walk from my office right around lunch time with a 1 hr 45 minute gap between them. So it's too much hassle to add the extra 30 minutes of walking to my work day and go back to the office to eat lunch. So I just grab something to eat and do some reading or grading etc.

Otherwise I get maybe 1 or 2 (and often 0) other meals out a week if I'm meeting friends for dinner or happy hour etc.
 
From January until August we didn't eat out at all - it was great. We saved a ton of money and we were eating healthy. The wheels came off a little in August but now that school has started we are back in the routine again. This is the toughest time of year for me - I usually put on a few pounds between Halloween and New Year's but this year I'm determined to actually lose a few. I'd like to get down to 190 lbs. by Halloween, if possible. I'm only 7 lbs. away but I don't know what else I can do to jump start the weight loss. I eat right, I don't drink and I exercise like crazy. Oh well.
 
[quote name='Javery']From January until August we didn't eat out at all - it was great. We saved a ton of money and we were eating healthy. The wheels came off a little in August but now that school has started we are back in the routine again. This is the toughest time of year for me - I usually put on a few pounds between Halloween and New Year's but this year I'm determined to actually lose a few. I'd like to get down to 190 lbs. by Halloween, if possible. I'm only 7 lbs. away but I don't know what else I can do to jump start the weight loss. I eat right, I don't drink and I exercise like crazy. Oh well.[/QUOTE]

It's simple - calories in, calories out. You also have to lower your calorie intake the older you get.

Do you track everything you eat? I got a great app on my phone and have lost 10 pounds in a few weeks. You might be surpised at how many calories are in even healthy foods like brown rice, beans, and avocados.

My personal theory is when it comes to losing weight, exercise doesn't mean that much and drinking one or two a day is fine. People yammer on and on (and on) about metabolism but it's really not that big a player - ask any skinny person what they eat in a day and if they are honest you will find out that it is not alot of food. It's all about what you eat and drink - it's all about calories. Once you know how to count calories the rest is all willpower.
 
[quote name='Clak']I used to love that show until I realized how stupid the premise is. Do these folks not know who he is? Do they think he'll come in, love the food, and walk out? Have they never seen the show?[/QUOTE]

I'm sure some have no idea who he is, and some chefs/owners are full of hubris and character - they're the ones who are likely to end up on the program. Some demure owner on his/her ass who is willing to listen and not get in Ramsay's way won't be selected for the show - it's not good television.

So they assuredly hand pick businesses run by jerks and loudmouths (not that such people are hard to come by), and overlook people who are willing to do anything to make their business a success. Want proof? Find an episode of the show with no drama - just people working cooperatively to make the restaurant kick ass and make a ton of money. It doesn't exist.

Ask JimmieMac about how authentic a Ramsay television show is compared to real life incidents.

Of some relevance: http://www.avclub.com/chicago/articles/cash-cab-is-totally-fake,48754/

That article broke my heart, but it's also a sobering revelation that everything on tv is phony.
 
[quote name='camoor']Do you track everything you eat? I got a great app on my phone and have lost 10 pounds in a few weeks.[/quote]

Hahaha, I was thinking about this earlier today - I know when I'm tracking calories using myfitnesspal, I'll occasionally slip on inputting foods ("oh, I forgot about that cookie the other day - oh well"/"oh, it's a diet soda, it doesn't count"); but the *moment* I'm done with exercise, the app is fired up and I'm inputting that dude and taking the credit for it.

My personal theory is when it comes to losing weight, exercise doesn't mean that much and drinking one or two a day is fine. People yammer on and on (and on) about metabolism but it's really not that big a player - ask any skinny person what they eat in a day and if they are honest you will find out that it is not alot of food. It's all about what you eat and drink - it's all about calories. Once you know how to count calories the rest is all willpower.

Diet is a huge part of weight, but exercise is a huge part of fitness.
 
[quote name='Clak']I used to love that show until I realized how stupid the premise is. Do these folks not know who he is? Do they think he'll come in, love the food, and walk out? Have they never seen the show?[/QUOTE]

There were a few episodes where the chef quit beforehand.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Diet is a huge part of weight, but exercise is a huge part of fitness.[/QUOTE]

True.

But I used to think that I could exercise and eat anything I want - in actuality it really doesn't burn that many calories - it was just that I was young and it was alot harder to really pack on the pounds.

It always amazes me when I see teenagers/young 20somethings who are already fat - if you can't help being fat at that age you don't have a prayer later in life.
 
[quote name='Msut77']There were a few episodes where the chef quit beforehand.[/QUOTE]
It's just hard for me to believe that all of these restuarant owners don't know who he is or what his shtick is. They all seem to expect him to love the food, which makes no sense anyway. If the restaurant is in trouble and he's coming to help, that's probably a good sign that the food needs work and he probably isn't going to love it anyway.
 
[quote name='camoor']True.

But I used to think that I could exercise and eat anything I want - in actuality it really doesn't burn that many calories - it was just that I was young and it was alot harder to really pack on the pounds.

It always amazes me when I see teenagers/young 20somethings who are already fat - if you can't help being fat at that age you don't have a prayer later in life.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I'm basically screwed. I lifted weights, played sports, ran bleachers and at points didn't consume a whole hell of a lot. Still never got below 220 and have always had a gut on me. Now my weight is just getting depressingly high.
 
[quote name='camoor']It's simple - calories in, calories out. You also have to lower your calorie intake the older you get.

Do you track everything you eat? I got a great app on my phone and have lost 10 pounds in a few weeks. You might be surpised at how many calories are in even healthy foods like brown rice, beans, and avocados.

My personal theory is when it comes to losing weight, exercise doesn't mean that much and drinking one or two a day is fine. People yammer on and on (and on) about metabolism but it's really not that big a player - ask any skinny person what they eat in a day and if they are honest you will find out that it is not alot of food. It's all about what you eat and drink - it's all about calories. Once you know how to count calories the rest is all willpower.[/QUOTE]

I agree with all of this but I feel like I need a certain amount of calories just to have enough energy to get up and exercise if I'm making any sense. I eat egg whites with a slice of ham and a serving of fruit for breakfast, a ham sandwich with lettuce, tomato and honey mustard with a small bag of Sunchips for lunch and then for dinner it's usually some sort of chicken dish (grilled, fajitas, etc.) with a vegetable and no starch. I drink water all the time and I bring a Ziplock bag of grapes and a small container of mixed nuts to work to snack on.

I don't count calories (because I don't really know how much is in this stuff) but I do know that this amount of food plus about an hour and fifteen minutes of cardio in the morning has basically allowed me to exist at about 195 lbs. I'm 6' and I'm a pretty big dude but my pants are size 34 so I'm right there... I still think I could stand to get down to 185 and be right where I want to be.
 
[quote name='Javery']I agree with all of this but I feel like I need a certain amount of calories just to have enough energy to get up and exercise if I'm making any sense. I eat egg whites with a slice of ham and a serving of fruit for breakfast, a ham sandwich with lettuce, tomato and honey mustard with a small bag of Sunchips for lunch and then for dinner it's usually some sort of chicken dish (grilled, fajitas, etc.) with a vegetable and no starch. I drink water all the time and I bring a Ziplock bag of grapes and a small container of mixed nuts to work to snack on. [/QUOTE]

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[quote name='Javery']I don't count calories (because I don't really know how much is in this stuff) but I do know that this amount of food plus about an hour and fifteen minutes of cardio in the morning has basically allowed me to exist at about 195 lbs. I'm 6' and I'm a pretty big dude but my pants are size 34 so I'm right there... I still think I could stand to get down to 185 and be right where I want to be.[/QUOTE]

Yes - well IMHO if you want to lose those pounds you're going to have to put in the effort of finding how many calories are in the foods you're eating. I was surprised that I naturally gravitated towards foods that were heavy in calories - so it wasn't really a quantity issue as much as it was a misinformation and food choice issue.

It's funny - I eat white bread instead of wheat bread with my egg for breakfast, but because the slices are smaller I get a 40% calorie savings. I would have never thought I could lose weight by switching out wheat for white bread but here I am. That's just one of those weird examples of where a good calorie counting program can help.
 
[quote name='camoor']Yes - well IMHO if you want to lose those pounds you're going to have to put in the effort of finding how many calories are in the foods you're eating. I was surprised that I naturally gravitated towards foods that were heavy in calories - so it wasn't really a quantity issue as much as it was a misinformation and food choice issue.

It's funny - I eat white bread instead of wheat bread with my egg for breakfast, but because the slices are smaller I get a 40% calorie savings. I would have never thought I could lose weight by switching out wheat for white bread but here I am. That's just one of those weird examples of where a good calorie counting program can help.[/QUOTE]

I would think those energy drinks do more harm than good...

I guess I'll see if I can find out the calorie content of what I'm eating. I'm pretty sure I can easily find out the calories in my breakfast - it's lunch and dinner that might be tough. I'm sure there's an app for that though.

[quote name='panzerfaust']Or exercise harder. We don't know what everyone's personal definition of a "crazy" workout is.[/QUOTE]

Maybe. I run on the treadmill starting at 8.0 and go up to 9.0 for the last five minutes of a 35 minute run. Then I do 30 more minutes on a steep incline on the elliptical. I'm soaking wet by the end. If I get there early enough I also do some light weights with my arms, back and chest and then sit-ups/leg lifts. I don't know. Maybe this isn't enough but I don't think I could do much more and then survive the 10-12 hour work day.
 
[quote name='Javery']I would think those energy drinks do more harm than good...[/QUOTE]

Why? I haven't seen anything bad about 5 hour energy beyond the "niacin rush". Sugarfree redbull has an obscene amount of caffeine so you have to watch out about dehydrating with that stuff.

[quote name='Javery']I guess I'll see if I can find out the calorie content of what I'm eating. I'm pretty sure I can easily find out the calories in my breakfast - it's lunch and dinner that might be tough. I'm sure there's an app for that though.[/QUOTE]

Loseit app. Best part is it's free on Android, and once you have entered a meal (or a food) it's too easy to keep logging it again and again with the click of a button.
 
[quote name='Javery']From January until August we didn't eat out at all - it was great. We saved a ton of money and we were eating healthy. The wheels came off a little in August but now that school has started we are back in the routine again. This is the toughest time of year for me - I usually put on a few pounds between Halloween and New Year's but this year I'm determined to actually lose a few. I'd like to get down to 190 lbs. by Halloween, if possible. I'm only 7 lbs. away but I don't know what else I can do to jump start the weight loss. I eat right, I don't drink and I exercise like crazy. Oh well.[/QUOTE]

Just eat less!
Always works for me.
 
[quote name='camoor']People yammer on and on (and on) about metabolism but it's really not that big a player - ask any skinny person what they eat in a day and if they are honest you will find out that it is not alot of food. It's all about what you eat and drink - it's all about calories. [/QUOTE]

It's definitely true as we get older. I've always been very skinny. In my teens and early 20s I drank a ton of regular soda, at a lot of candy bars and chips etc., a decent amount of fast food and I stayed pretty lean as my metabolism is high and a I have a very slender frame in general. And I've always been fairly active be it sports when growing up or gym routines in college and beyond.

But ias I got older my metabolism slowed and I started putting on some wait around the midsection and had put on maybe 10 lbs--topping out in the low 160s. Not terrible number wise, but I haven't lifted that seriously the past 5-6 years so I lost a lot of muscle from when I was lifting regulary and was 165 with little body fat.

I started watching what I eat more and doing more cardio and have lost that. Weighed 147 last time I weighed myself.

But I agree with your latter post that it's not so much the cardio as it is that I'm eating less and eating healthier. And you're right that I really just don't eat all that much compared to a lot of people I know.

A typical day's diet for me is something like:

Breakfast: cereal mixed with yogurt (I loathe milk) with some craisins added, and maybe a piece of whole wheat toast or a piece of fruit. But often just the cereal and yogurt. Drink is water and maybe some hot tea with honey or black coffee.

Lunch: Sandwich (whole wheat, turkey, lettuce, brown mustard), apple, bannana. Drink is diet soda and/or water.

Dinner: Some lean protein (chicken, fish, veggie burger, tofu etc.), some complex carb (brown rice, sweet potato) and a bunch of some veggie. Drink is water or occasionally a beer (if I have beer I usually save it for later in the evening rather than at dinner).

I don't do much snacking between meals, but if I do it's usually carrots and hummus, fruit etc. About as unhealthy as a regularly go is something like Baked Lays chips, salted almonds or cashews, reduced fat cheez-its, some relatively low sugar granola bars etc.

I don't always stick to that and do eat out sum or have crappy lean cuisine/healthy choice tv dinners. But I mostly stick to low calorie stuff there as well--so it may not be good for me, but I'm at least still usually not pounding calories and fat.

I haven't mapped out my calories in while, but when I was last year I was typically around 2,000-2,500 a day on average (including any beers throughout the week).

If any thing I'm probably a bit under that now as I'm bad about sleeping in a bit and just skipping breakfast somedays (especially on the weekends).
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']I don't do much snacking between meals, but if I do it's usually carrots and hummus, fruit etc. About as unhealthy as a regularly go is something like Baked Lays chips, salted almonds or cashews, reduced fat cheez-its, some relatively low sugar granola bars etc.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't lump the nuts in with that other stuff. While calorically dense the nuts contain alot of protein, I snack on them on the way home from work to avoid gettting too hungry and having a huge dinner when I get home.

Now that I know the real crap (cheezits, crackers, all that processed stuff) I avoid it as much as possible. The only snack I do go in for are those Trader Joes honey mustard pretzels once a month (the best!)
 
So what's y'all's major vices, then?

We all have them. More the horrible thing you can't cut out of your diet (or refuse to) rather than the thing you really want to consumer but don't (like chinese food).

Mine are both liquid: beer and black coffee. The way I feel about those two beverages is the same way Charlton Heston feels about firearms (and the way Charlton Heston feels at this very moment, period).
 
My vices are ice cream and pizza. I only have them like once a month if that but goddamn I would eat pizza and ice cream every single day if I could.
 
Going out to drink 3 times a week (college student). Often leads to eating fast food at some point as well.

And of course, if I see Dr.Pepper I have to drink it.
 
[quote name='camoor']I wouldn't lump the nuts in with that other stuff. While calorically dense the nuts contain alot of protein, I snack on them on the way home from work to avoid gettting too hungry and having a huge dinner when I get home. [/QUOTE]

Yeah, I just mentioned them for the salt. And I mainly eat the wasabi and soy sauce flavored almonds from Blue Diamond. Ton's of salt etc.

People suggest raw almonds as a healthy snack, but I just don't like them and will deal with the added salt and preservatives in the wasabi almonds or some salted cashews etc.

[quote name='mykevermin']So what's y'all's major vices, then?

We all have them. More the horrible thing you can't cut out of your diet (or refuse to) rather than the thing you really want to consumer but don't (like chinese food).

Mine are both liquid: beer and black coffee. The way I feel about those two beverages is the same way Charlton Heston feels about firearms (and the way Charlton Heston feels at this very moment, period).[/QUOTE]


Beer is definitely my biggest one. Though I've done a good job of cutting down the past several months. I try not to have more than 6 a week, and some weeks have none.

Black coffee is only a vice if you're pounding the hell out of it. I've read a lot of things in recent years citing studies showing it's good for you in moderation--various things from brain functioning to heart health.

But it can be bad if you go overboard as too much caffeine isn't a good thing.

Sweet's wise I love ice cream, but that's something I pretty much stay away from. I usually by the low sugar Luigi's Italian ice or some fat free frozen yogurt if I get an ice cream urge I can't surpress.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']So what's y'all's major vices, then?

We all have them. More the horrible thing you can't cut out of your diet (or refuse to) rather than the thing you really want to consumer but don't (like chinese food).

Mine are both liquid: beer and black coffee. The way I feel about those two beverages is the same way Charlton Heston feels about firearms (and the way Charlton Heston feels at this very moment, period).[/QUOTE]

Poptarts. I tend to be pretty good with sodas and candy, and I can't stand alcohol or coffee products (minus cappucino once every few months). But pop tarts are my go to breakfast during the workweek. And not just two tarts, but 4 (two packages).
 
[quote name='mykevermin']So what's y'all's major vices, then?

We all have them. More the horrible thing you can't cut out of your diet (or refuse to) rather than the thing you really want to consumer but don't (like chinese food).

Mine are both liquid: beer and black coffee. The way I feel about those two beverages is the same way Charlton Heston feels about firearms (and the way Charlton Heston feels at this very moment, period).[/QUOTE]
Soft drinks. I can do the diet stuff, but I'll be damned if I can cut them out completely.
 
Here's one solution for health care... LESS fuckING PEOPLE. Many other areas would benefit from this too... :cough:TRAFFIC...:cough:
 
Black coffee is only a vice if you're pounding the hell out of it. I've read a lot of things in recent years citing studies showing it's good for you in moderation--various things from brain functioning to heart health.

Well yeah, it's like tea. Antioxidants and what not. Just drink it black and don't have 4+ cups in the morning.

Every couple weeks I load my tea or coffee with sugar and such so I'm not tempted to buy a ton of candy or something that day.
 
That's the bloody problem. I probably drink 1-1.5 pots (12-cup pots, not that ninny 6-cup pot bullshit) on average per day.

Sometimes with espresso shots.

And my cold press; have I told you about my cold press? ;)

I still don't get all y'all that say you don't have time to cook. You most certainly have time for it, but I doubt you find it an enjoyable enough to do. So it's that you don't like to cook, not that you don't have time for it. As long as we're on the level.
 
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