Official 2011-12 NFL Regular Season Thread

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[quote name='dafoomie']If the Jets couldn't even stop Lawfirm today, what are they going to do about Daniel Thomas and Reggie Bush next week?[/QUOTE]

Lawfirm is a better back right now than either of those guys. But yeah, he had huge holes all day because the Jets were committed to defending the pass. There was barely anyone in the middle all day. I don't think that's going to be the gameplan when Matt Moore is the opposing QB...
 
Tebow brought the Broncos back from the dead and nearly won the game after being down by two touchdowns at the half.

Oh well, made the game exciting at least!
 
[quote name='dafoomie']Did the Jets have to worry that much about Jason Campbell and Joe Flacco?[/QUOTE]

Both those guys at least have NFL arms you have to respect. They took Flacco's lunch money all night too.

I think they'll steamroll the Dolphins.

(god, I can't believe I'm sticking up for the Jets)
 
I think the fins will get it together a little bit. With painter as Qb the Colts are much worse.

Also Lawfirm is a great back for the Pats offense. He is not a Pro Bowl guy but he is steady. He is patient and seems to always gain at least a few yards even on broken blocking. Also in clutch short yardage situations he always seems to bring the second effort to pick up the first or score a TD.
 
[quote name='jlarlee']
Also Lawfirm is a great back for the Pats offense. He is not a Pro Bowl guy but he is steady. He is patient and seems to always gain at least a few yards even on broken blocking. Also in clutch short yardage situations he always seems to bring the second effort to pick up the first or score a TD.[/QUOTE]

Plus he hasn't fumbled since Pee Wee. It's very nice to have a back who you can be extremely confident is never going to put it on the ground.

I wonder how many suicide pool entries went down today with the Giants' loss. You know they had to be a very popular pick this week.
 
49ers for real? I don't want to get my hopes up. If anyone told you a few months ago that the Lions/49ers game would be big, well they'd be right.
 
[quote name='RAMSTORIA']49ers for real? I don't want to get my hopes up. If anyone told you a few months ago that the Lions/49ers game would be big, well they'd be right.[/QUOTE]

They look real, linebackers are great and the offense is solid.
 
[quote name='RAMSTORIA']49ers for real? I don't want to get my hopes up. If anyone told you a few months ago that the Lions/49ers game would be big, well they'd be right.[/QUOTE]

They're certainly for real insofar as they should win their division easily. Whether they can make noise in the playoffs.. We'll see.
 
49ers are definitely for real, they could have realistically still have been undefeated. How in the world they lost that game against the failboys is beyond me but from what people were saying earlier seems they gave that away.
 
[quote name='renique46']49ers are definitely for real, they could have realistically still have been undefeated. How in the world they lost that game against the failboys is beyond me but from what people were saying earlier seems they gave that away.[/QUOTE]

That loss is not going to haunt them in that awful Division. Four more wins all year should be enough to wrap it up
 
49ers have it locked barring catastrophic injury. Can't wait to watch a playoff game again!

They looked flat out awesome yesterday in every facet. Even the shaky secondary looks like it took a few steps forward.

Gonna be tough next week, Calvin Johnson is bigger and stronger than every single pass defender they have.
 
I don't feel that confident about my Chargers. If Tim TeBlow can make the defense look that bad i'm scared to see what a real offense will do to the chargers.
 
[quote name='Lyricsborn']I don't feel that confident about my Chargers. If Tim TeBlow can make the defense look that bad i'm scared to see what a real offense will do to the chargers.[/QUOTE]

Look no further: http://espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=310918017

They've played a pretty easy schedule with the exception of that game. They've got a much tougher stretch after their bye.
 
Uh oh. Here comes the hype train...Tebow still looked really shitty in everything he did.

Spinning in circles in the pocket, almost everyone of this passes were completely inaccurate and he is extremely lucky to have gotten 60 of his 79 yards on a screen play. I know people in Denver have less brain cells because they are so high up but the guy looks horrid. Unless you plan on making a QB run the bulk of your offense than he is still worthless at this point. Putting him in now just makes him another David Carr. A guy who should have sat for a couple years and fails because you tossed him to the wolves.

Now, I do admit this...the team played better when he was in there but that basically means your team hasnt played up to its potential this entire time which of course isnt Orton's fault. Orton hasnt planned great but he hasnt played bad enough to be benched.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']Uh oh. Here comes the hype train...Tebow still looked really shitty in everything he did.

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No kidding it is terrible here. Bottom line, he didn't get it done and he lost.
 
[quote name='bvharris']They're certainly for real insofar as they should win their division easily. Whether they can make noise in the playoffs.. We'll see.[/QUOTE]

At this point it's their division to lose. The 49ers have some tough games coming up, so we should be able to gauge how they'll do in the playoffs. They have Detroit, Washington, New York (Giants), and the Steelers this season.
 
[quote name='usickenme']No kidding it is terrible here. Bottom line, he didn't get it done and he lost.[/QUOTE]

cmon now. the broncos were losing 23-10 when Tebow came in. they lost 29-24, the broncos outscored the chargers 14-6 while Tebow was in. Tebow didn't look great, but to say "he didn't get it done" is an unfair criticism. give him the next two weeks taking all the snaps in practice and let the team adjust to him as QB and the broncos will be better. he looked better than Orton and the broncos played better with Tebow, that'st he bottom line.
 
Are you kidding me perdition or do you live in fantasy land where top flight QB just fall out of the god damn sky? There are only 3 or 4 elite level QBs and then there are game mangers and after that there are losers. Unless you are one of these ESPN media idiot who pretends that a QB is responsible for every single position of the field it clear the blame isnt on Orton as much as the dozens of morons around him.

Orton is a game manger..it is not his fault the management sucks dick. Lets count the ways of to fail in Denver.

-Hire a coach that waste a top draft pick on a 10 year project in Tebow.
-Fire said coach
-Trade away the best WR to MIA so you are now throwing it to some guy named Eric Decker.
-Even though you are the team that historically burps out 1k RB your running game sucks (I like Knowshon though)
-Oh whats your defense giving up? Only 123 rushing yards a game and 281 passing yards. Oh and look at this 586 yards of Yac. How about fucking tackling someone.

Yay....all Orton fault here.


There is not enough Tom Brady Aaron Rodgers DNA to go around...you can still win with a game managing QB but you have coach in a way that lets him excel. He is average but average is better than roughly 10 or 15 teams. Trying to trade him at the beginning of a season for a guy who is clearly not even on the same level...and then constantly danging his starting job away isnt the way to build a team.


I am not even a Denver fan its just so an obvious scape goat that it pisses me off. Its just like when Chad played for Cinny...its all his fault that we are not winning. It couldnt possible be that our defense is god awful or offense is god awful and all our players spend more time in jail than on the practice field.
 
[quote name='RAMSTORIA']cmon now. the broncos were losing 23-10 when Tebow came in. they lost 29-24, the broncos outscored the chargers 14-6 while Tebow was in. Tebow didn't look great, but to say "he didn't get it done" is an unfair criticism. give him the next two weeks taking all the snaps in practice and let the team adjust to him as QB and the broncos will be better. he looked better than Orton and the broncos played better with Tebow, that'st he bottom line.[/QUOTE]

This is one of my biggest problems...the team played much harder when Tebow was in there. That just says they are not playing up to where they could be the rest of the time.

Orton has not played great but clearly no one else has either. So before people bench him and claim its all his fault try looking at your piss more defense....your piss poor running game...your piss poor WR and your piss poor play calling.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']This is one of my biggest problems...the team played much harder when Tebow was in there. That just says they are not playing up to where they could be the rest of the time.

Orton has not played great but clearly no one else has either. So before people bench him and claim its all his fault try looking at your piss more defense....your piss poor running game...your piss poor WR and your piss poor play calling.[/QUOTE]

Denver is the 17th best rushing team in the league, so it's not great but I wouldn't say they suck. McGahee is on pace for a 1,000 yard season and is in the top 10 for rushing. Their defense is definitely a problem for them right now. But I really doubt the team (especially the defense) is playing sub par just because they don't believe in Orton. The change at QB probably just motivated the team and gave them momentum in the second half, sometimes you just play better after you get a kick in the ass. But that doesn't mean the team was tanking it.
 
[quote name='RAMSTORIA']cmon now. the broncos were losing 23-10 when Tebow came in. they lost 29-24, the broncos outscored the chargers 14-6 while Tebow was in. Tebow didn't look great, but to say "he didn't get it done" is an unfair criticism. give him the next two weeks taking all the snaps in practice and let the team adjust to him as QB and the broncos will be better. he looked better than Orton and the broncos played better with Tebow, that'st he bottom line.[/QUOTE]

oh he looked better but let's be real, Tebow people are acting as if a 13 point deficit is historical. Plus the bulk of his yards came from a screen play.


Orton was terrible yesterday and he is justly benched. He consistently throw behind receivers and locks into guys too much. He can't improvise and plays with no emotion. Orton cannot come through in the clutch...ever. So while he isn't the sole reason they are 1-4, he isn't helping at all.

So what I am saying Denver doesn't have ANY good qbs right now.
 
[quote name='usickenme']oh he looked better but let's be real, Tebow people are acting as if a 13 point deficit is historical. Plus the bulk of his yards came from a screen play.
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Can you imagine what would have happened if someone had come down with that last pass? Would we have ever heard the end of it?
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']This is one of my biggest problems...the team played much harder when Tebow was in there. That just says they are not playing up to where they could be the rest of the time.

Orton has not played great but clearly no one else has either. So before people bench him and claim its all his fault try looking at your piss more defense....your piss poor running game...your piss poor WR and your piss poor play calling.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't shit on the receivers since they've had a significant number of injuries to that group, including one of the games where they only had three guys that could suit up and had to throw in TEs and Tebow to fill in holes. Their defense has been the main reason for their losses, as they can't really stop anybody with any kind of consistency, which can also be linked to injuries and a lack of quality depth. To back that up, Denver's opponents average 28 points per game on them, which would be the #8 scoring offense in the league while their own offense is merely average at #19.

Denver hasn't had a consistent running game since Shanahan was the coach, though McGahee's probably the best they've had since the big 1k yard runners in Shanahan's better days. Moreno has some flashes of being good, but then he gets hurt and can't do anything for most of the game.

The only real way that they can turn it around is rebuilding through the draft, especially on defense, which will take them another year or two to really be in good shape if their picks work out.

If they're going to start Tebow for good, they should give Miami a call about taking Orton off their hands since they're probably desperate with Garrard declining a chance to start for them.
 
[quote name='Lyricsborn']I don't feel that confident about my Chargers. If Tim TeBlow can make the defense look that bad i'm scared to see what a real offense will do to the chargers.[/QUOTE]

Game should have never been that close to begin with but of course Norv turner loves this bullshit. Cant believe this moron is still there, not to mention the dumbass aj smith trying to do his best al davis impression on finding new ways to make sure the team is 1 win and done in the playoffs year in and year out.
 
[quote name='bvharris']Can you imagine what would have happened if someone had come down with that last pass? Would we have ever heard the end of it?[/QUOTE]

No, and it would have been wonderful troll fuel. :(
 
Holy crap this is one of the ugliest 1st quarters I've seen in a long time. Seriously Bears this isn't the St. Louis Rams offense. You CAN'T call all of those deep routes when your 0-Line isn't blocking shit! This whole drive is thanks to Detroit penalties.

Oh and nice, get stuffed on 4th and 1.

EDIT: Nice waste of a challenge Lovie...
 
Wow, I thought the Bears would lose tonight because Cutler would fold under the constant pressure. It's been improv night where he's had to make it up as he runs for his life. He's actually played a great game considering he's constantly being harassed, it's been the defense that's played like crap. The D has made Javid Best look like a stud! Pathetic!

This loss puts us completely out of the division race unless both Detroit & Green Bay implode by some miracle. Here's how I see the rest of the season going:

Bears lose four out of the next five to fall to 3-7 and eliminate themselves from the postseason then, as they typically like to do, rally to win four out of six meaningless games to finish 7-9 and getting a mediocre pick. I just hope Lovie gets canned in the process and next season management thinks twice about NOT ADDRESSING CRUCIAL NEEDS ON THE O-LINE IN THE OFFSEASON!!!

Congrats Lions fans, you guys have suffered for a long time. Please do me a favor though, BEAT THOSE DAMN PACKERS! If the Bears can't win the division I hope it goes to the Lions.
 
Cannot wait for Lions-Packers on Thanksgiving, even if one or both of 'em drop a game between now and then. Very nice win tonight.

That was some flag football tonight though. God daymn.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']Cannot wait for Lions-Packers on Thanksgiving, even if one or both of 'em drop a game between now and then. Very nice win tonight.
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They play Week 17 on New Year's Day as well. Should be a couple of epics. It would be cool if it came down to that game, though I think the Packers will have clinched by then.
 
I think talk about Denver and San Diego, etc. is irrelevant due to their high amounts of suck, but a better subject to talk about is D-Town! My Lord I expected them to pull 5-6 wins this season but they based off their future games and how they've played so far I think they will beat 49ers, Atlanta and Denver. 8-0 for Detroit is not out of the question so long as everyone stays healthy...I personally think Stafford is quite a good, underrated young QB as well. Helps a lot considering the Lions' wideouts aren't too bad.

P.S. LOL at first 5-0 start since 1956!
 
[quote name='Thekrakrabbit']I personally think Stafford is quite a good, underrated young QB as well. Helps a lot considering the Lions' wideouts aren't too bad.[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure how someone who came into the league as the most highly touted QB prospect since Peyton Manning and was selected #1 overall can be underrated. If he'd been healthy he'd probably already be a Pro Bowler. Now that he is, it's nice to see him putting it together, but it's not exactly a surprise that he is.
 
Stafford has been a stud pretty much from the moment he entered the league. The only knock on him was that he's been injury prone. As long as he stays healthy the Lions are in business.
 
The Saints right now remind me of the '09 Saints, at least early on. However, I see them having a hard time beating Green Bay, who look sorta unstoppable.
 
[quote name='bvharris']I'm not sure how someone who came into the league as the most highly touted QB prospect since Peyton Manning and was selected #1 overall can be underrated. If he'd been healthy he'd probably already be a Pro Bowler. Now that he is, it's nice to see him putting it together, but it's not exactly a surprise that he is.[/QUOTE]

I think people don't talk about him as much as they should because he is on the Lions, who get very little attention from fans most of the time unless you are from Detroit.

I do agree though that he had hype coming into the league and I also agree with the other poster that he is a beast (though injury prone last season). If he can stay healthy though I truly think D-Town is heading to a strong run and a spot in the playoffs.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Tebow announced as starter for the next game after the bye this week.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7...yle-orton-denver-broncos-starting-quarterback[/QUOTE]

Probably the best choice, since Orton has not really done much with the team since...well, joining them. :rofl: Tebow IMO isn't what he is hyped up to be (right now), but has potential and is probably better to build him right now instead of building him in practice but sitting on the bench.
 
part of my dream last night was tim tebow making his first start and quickly getting benched in favor of kyle orton... i'm not even a broncos fan. how depressing.
 
[quote name='perdition(troy']you mostlikely saw them having a hard time beating green bay in week one ;)[/QUOTE]

Damnit, I meant to say the Lions remind me of the '09 Saints. What the fuck.
 
[quote name='KingBroly']Damnit, I meant to say the Lions remind me of the '09 Saints. What the fuck.[/QUOTE]

They get the same fluke calls like they did.
 
Joe Haden's out for the Raiders game while Alex Mack will be starting, so the offensive line gets a big break and the secondary will have to play harder to make up for Haden's absence.
 
As a Lions fan I have never liked Stafford. Man this guy makes bad decisions, bad throws, bad everything.

He is the J.R. Smith of the NFL.

He will wow you one second and then do everything he can to lose the game the next. I am not saying he is not the long term answer but shits sake he pisses me off.
 
If that win doesnt tell anyone that the 49ers are for real i dont know what does.

Patriots secondary trying to do their best Packers impersonation
 
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