Official (2015-2016) College Football Thread OSU#1

[quote name='dmaul1114']There's no way Louisville team could play Houston. Orange bowl has the last pick, and 7-5 Louisville team would be the last pick (since the Big East doesn't have a bowl tie in they're treated like a mandatory at large pick).[/QUOTE]

They could at least theoretically play in the Sugar Bowl, but the chances of that actually happening are close to nil as you say.
 
[quote name='Magus8472']They could at least theoretically play in the Sugar Bowl, but the chances of that actually happening are close to nil as you say.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, no way the Sugar Bowl would pick a 7-5 team.

There's slim chance that if it's WVU they could end up there since our fans travel so well. But even that's unlikely as we're still 9-3 which is pretty lousy for a BCS team. So the Big East team will almost definitely be the last picked and thus go to the Orange Bowl.

Would also be moot if Georgia wins tomorrow as then they'd be in the Sugar bowl, probably against Houston. LSU wins, then they and Bama are in the title game and the Sugar has two at large spots--but still aren't going to pick a 7-5 team.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']
Would also be moot if Georgia wins tomorrow as then they'd be in the Sugar bowl, probably against Houston. LSU wins, then they and Bama are in the title game and the Sugar has two at large spots--but still aren't going to pick a 7-5 team.[/QUOTE]
Can't happen. BCS only allows 2 teams from a conference to compete in BCS bowls. Most likely if Georgia beats LSU that LSU would not be in a BCS bowl. OK St/Oklahoma in, LSU out.
 
That's what I thought, but apparently there's an exception if two teams from the same conference finish 1 and 2 and go to the title game, while another team wins the conference championship and thus the autobid. Was mentioned on ESPN the other day. Can't take away the autobid from a conference champ, and the title game must take number 1 and 2 in the final BCS poll.

Now if LSU lost bad and fell to #3 or lower, then your right and LSU would not get a BCS bowl. Exception only works if LSU loses a close game and only falls to #2 with Alabama as #1.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']That's what I thought, but apparently there's an exception if two teams from the same conference finish 1 and 2 and go to the title game, while another team wins the conference championship and thus the autobid. Was mentioned on ESPN the other day. Can't take away the autobid from a conference champ, and the title game must take number 1 and 2 in the final BCS poll.

Now if LSU lost bad and fell to #3 or lower, then your right and LSU would not get a BCS bowl. Exception only works if LSU loses a close game and only falls to #2 with Alabama as #1.[/QUOTE]


I can confirm that. If two teams that don't win their conference but are ranked 1 and 2, there is a provision that allows the three teams (1 and 2, plus conference champion) from the same league into the BCS games.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Cincy up 28-6 on UCONN at the half.

Southern Miss is up 21-14 on Houston late in the 2nd quarter.[/QUOTE]

UCONN is pathetic. PATHETIC.
 
[quote name='gbpackers94']UCONN is pathetic. PATHETIC.[/QUOTE]


Yeah, those Cincy players really looked like they had nothing to play for today.

:whistle2:k
 
Crappy second half from Cincy, but they hold on to win 35-27. So WVU to the BCS! Suck it Big Least! :D

Houston is getting killed, down 42-21 with 5 minutes or so to go. That will shake some things up. Apparently, WVU may end up in the Sugar instead of Orange with that loss if UGA goes down as well.

I hope not and hope VT wins tonight so we can renew that rivalry in the Orange!


Will be interesting to see who gets that at large spot that would have went to Houston. Apparently it goes to TCU if they finish in the top 16. If not it will probably be Michigan, K State or the loser of OU/OK State tonight I guess.
 
Wow. UGA receivers have dropped TD passes on two straight drives. Made a FG after the first, missed one this time. Should be up 14-0 instead of 3-0.
 
TD UGA to go up 10-0. Moving the ball with ease on the LSU D, while their D has been lights out so far. Hard to imagine those two dropped TDs aren't going to come back to bite them in the ass though. Could easily be 21-0 right now.
 
Only 12 yards of offense from LSU in the first half. But only down 10-7 due to those dropped TDs by UGA and a punt return for a TD by Mathieu.
 
Wow, looks like Houston (Cougar High) was exposed for the fraud that they really are. Although I think it would have been more funny had they gotten to a BCS bowl and gotten rolled by a real Division I team.
 
So much for that WVU-VT rivalry renewal. Way to go Chokies. :roll:

Oklahoma State is making a statement. Really wish they'd get a shot at LSU.....

Big 10 championship game is a shootout. 36-34 Michigan State early in the 4th.
 
[quote name='gbpackers94']At this point how does Montee Ball not win the heisman?[/QUOTE]


If he played for an SEC team, they would have just canceled the vote and had it delivered to his house.
 
So what's everyone's guesses on the BCS bowl match ups now that the games are done?

My guesses:

Championship: LSU-Alabama
Rose: Oregon-Wisconsin (this one is set)
Fiesta: Oklahoma State-Stanford
Sugar: Michigan-WVU (think they pass on TCU and take WVU since our fans travel well for bowls)
Orange: Clemson-TCU


Complication is if TCU doesn't move up to 16 or above--then they're out and K-State is probably in. In that case I think the Sugar takes them and WVU plays in the Orange. I don't really are one way or the other--don't like WVU's chances against Clemson or Michigan as our defense isn't very good. Wanted VT as with their crappy offense it would have at least been a close game.
 
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Know what's bs? Michigan is probably going to make a bcs game while MSU wont, even though MSU had the same record and beat Michigan. So basically Michigan gets to go just because they didn't make the big ten championship game. Complete bull shit.
 
[quote name='pitfallharry219']It looks like Tony Barnhart called it perfectly on the CBS pregame show: Georgia could hang if it was only a 30 minute game.[/QUOTE]
I was really pulling for them, but man...after all those drops I just said forget it, that's just asking for LSU to come back and run a train on you
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']So what's everyone's guesses on the BCS bowl match ups now that the games are done?[/quote]
Rose: Oregon-Wisconsin
Fiesta: OK St-Boise St
Sugar: Michigan-West Virginia
Orange: Clemson-Stanford

The best thing about tonight is Oklahoma St really put a huge statement by beating Oklahoma bad since they legit have a case for the Natty game.
 
Boise State cannot go to the BCS. The provision for mid majors requires them to win their conference. TCU is the only one that has a shot. They have to be in the top 16 and ahead of an autobid team. They'll be ahead of WVU, only question is if they're in the top 16 or not.
 
I'm looking forward to the championship game in January. I'm a LSU fan residing in Alabama :) I'd love to see the teams get another shot at each other.
 
BCS: LSU vs. Oklahoma State
Rose: Oregon vs. Wisconsin
Fiesta: Stanford vs. Michigan
Sugar: Alabama vs. TCU
Orange: Clemson vs. West Virginia
 
If the BCS title game is LSU v. Alabama, there is going to be a Playoff system soon. Too much shit would come from that scenario for one not to be implemented.
 
[quote name='pimpster4183']OK State would just another blow out if they played LSU, they would have no chance of hanging.[/QUOTE]

How could you possibly know this. All we know at this point is that Alabama lost to LSU.... why would anyone want to see a rematch? Only people who do are SEC fans.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Boise State cannot go to the BCS. The provision for mid majors requires them to win their conference. TCU is the only one that has a shot. They have to be in the top 16 and ahead of an autobid team. They'll be ahead of WVU, only question is if they're in the top 16 or not.[/QUOTE]

To clarify, Boise can't get an automatic slot. If TCU isn't in the top 16, then that just stays an at large bid so technically Boise could be selected.

But that will never happen. A mid major will never get a true at large in the current BCS set up. They only get selected if they meet the criteria for an autobid (in top 12--highest mid major in top 12 gets an autobid; in top 16, won their conference, ranked higher than at least one autobid league champion).
 
[quote name='KingBroly']If the BCS title game is LSU v. Alabama, there is going to be a Playoff system soon. Too much shit would come from that scenario for one not to be implemented.[/QUOTE]

Either way this year is a lot of pressure for a playoff since there are three one loss teams from major conferences with decent arguments for being in the title game. The more years like this, the more teams left out, the more college admins that get behind a playoff so their team has a shot next time they're in that situation.

This year shows that even a 4-team playoff would be a big improvement. Would LSU-Stanford and Ok State-Alabama.

I liked the 6 team playoff idea one of the announcers on one of the games had yesterday (think it was Griese). Top highest ranked conference champs get a first round bye. Keeps more importance on the regular season, while also getting a couple more teams in the post season.
 
[quote name='gbpackers94']How could you possibly know this. All we know at this point is that Alabama lost to LSU.... why would anyone want to see a rematch? Only people who do are SEC fans.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I really hope Oklahoma State is able to move up to #2 in the final pole so we get a intriguing matchup in the title game. A rematch of Bama & LSU would be a complete snoozer for most of the country.
 
Yeah, I have no interest in an Alabama-LSU matchup. The first was a snoozefest, and it won't resolve anything.

LSU wins again, the rematch was pointless and we're left wondering if OSU or Stanford could have done better. Alabama wins and they'll feel like a weak champion since they split with LSU, with a loss at home.
 
OK State has the 107th defense in the nation, Oklahoma looked like shit last night. OK State let an unranked IOWA State score 37 points AND beat them. Bama has the #1 defense in the whole country in all major categories and it's only loss was to LSU in OT, by 3 points.
 
[quote name='pimpster4183']OK State has the 107th defense in the nation, Oklahoma looked like shit last night. OK State let an unranked IOWA State score 37 points AND beat them. Bama has the #1 defense in the whole country in all major categories and it's only loss was to LSU in OT, by 3 points.[/QUOTE]

It's not about the loss, it's about the whole resume. Both teams have 1 loss, but Bama only has 3 wins against teams with winning records (+Georgia Southern), while OSU has 7. I think that more than makes up for the difference in the losses.
 
[quote name='pimpster4183']OK State has the 107th defense in the nation, Oklahoma looked like shit last night. OK State let an unranked IOWA State score 37 points AND beat them. Bama has the #1 defense in the whole country in all major categories and it's only loss was to LSU in OT, by 3 points.[/QUOTE]

#1) The night OSU played Iowa State they had just suffered the loss of their women's basketball coach in a tragic plane accident. I've heard several analysts say that may have had an effect on them when they played that game.

#2) They are ranked near the top in turnovers forced. While they may give up some yards they turn the opposing teams over all the time. Just like in the NFL with the Packers. Every week I hear how they've got major issues with their defense that they need to correct. Well somehow they've managed to go 11-0. They win despite the yards they give up because their offense is outstanding and they get turnovers when they need them.
 
Oklahoma State runs the exact same offense as WVU (Holgorsen came from there, and they hired an new OC to keep the exact system in place)--that offense put up over 500 yards on the vaunted LSU defense.

And OSU runs it much better as they have better talent and more experience in the system, so unlikely they'd shoot themselves in the foot with bad turnovers like WVU did.

So I think that could be a really exciting game with a decent amount of points on the board. Where as LSU-Bama will be another low scoring, defense dominated snooze fest unless there's some defensive/special teams scores.
 
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[quote name='dmaul1114']To clarify, Boise can't get an automatic slot. If TCU isn't in the top 16, then that just stays an at large bid so technically Boise could be selected.

But that will never happen. A mid major will never get a true at large in the current BCS set up. They only get selected if they meet the criteria for an autobid (in top 12--highest mid major in top 12 gets an autobid; in top 16, won their conference, ranked higher than at least one autobid league champion).[/QUOTE]
Pretty messed up system... Boise only lost by 1 and that is their only loss. TCU on the other hand got outshot by Baylor and lost to not-so-good Southern Methodist (7-5). To me, that isn't a case for a BCS bowl. At least Boise St took out 10-3 Georgia (i.e. a good opponent).

[quote name='dmaul1114']So I think that could be a really exciting game with a decent amount of points on the board. Where as LSU-Bama will be another low scoring, defense dominated snooze fest unless there's some defensive/special teams scores. [/quote]
It actually might be that much more of a defense battle than the first since each team has a month to prepare for each other... and we all know both offenses are basically "power-run" offenses i.e. stack the box so this could be alot of 3-and-outs. Oh fun and joy.
 
Yeah, it's a lame system. Boise should get in over Kansas State who will likely get the last at large if TCU isn't in the top 16 for sure.

But it's all about money so mid majors have no shot at an at large bid as they'll go with bigger schools from bigger conferences. Which is silly as I think more people would tune into watch Boise play a major team than to watch Kansas State play whoever. But that's just how it is.

But yeah, it's a shitty system. Even if there's no playoff they need to drop the autobid system and just take the top 10-12 teams in the final poll. Or at the least make all the at large slots the highest ranked teams after the conference champions (so the conference titles still mean something).
 
Here's the new Coach's poll (stolen from a WVU forum):

USA Today coaches poll (points):
1. LSU (1475)
2. Alabama (1399)
3. Oklahoma State (1367)
4. Stanford (1286)
5. Oregon (1232)
6. Boise
7. Arkansas
8. Wisco
9. So. Car
10. K State
11. Va Tech
12. Michigan
13. Mich St.
14. Clem
15. TCU
16. Baylor
17. Houston
18. Georgia
19. Oklahoma
20. Nebraska
21. So. Mississippi
22. WVU
23. PSU
24. Cincinnati
25. Florida State.

Alabama down from 1411 to 1399 points in coaches poll. Oklahoma State up from 1245 to 1367.

The numbers of votes is what matters to the BCS, not the actual ranking.
Oklahoma State will get a .9268 from coaches poll in BCS. Alabama will get a .9485.
Click to expand...

Pretty absurd that VT is still ahead of Clemson. I get that Clemson has 3 losses, VT 2, but I think beating the shit out of a team twice should be enough to make up for that!

The other important thing is that TCU did make the top 16 in at least this portion of the BCS components (both UGA and Oklahoma fell behind them). That bodes well for the, depending on how the Harris poll and computers turn out for them.
 
I might be the only one, but I don't think Arkansas is that good. They got blown out by both Alabama and LSU, but is there any win that stands out for them? South Carolina I may give them, but I feel they became a one dimensional team after losing Lattimore.
 
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[quote name='Nate Nanjo']I might be the only one, but I don't think Arkansas is that good. They got blown out by both Alabama and LSU, but is there any win that stands out for them? South Carolina I may give them, but I feel they became a one dimensional team after losing Lattimore.[/QUOTE]

Arkansas is so overrated. They got blown out by the best teams in the SEC and barely beat the worst teams.
 
[quote name='http://twitter.com/#!/slmandel/status/143486937318162433']Title: LSU-Bama.
Rose: Wis-Ore.
Fiesta: Ok St-Stanford.
Sugar: Va Tech-Michigan.
Orange: Clemson-West Va.[/QUOTE]

Virginia Tech? You have to be fucking kidding me. How the fuck can you justify that, fuck the BCS. None of these game are interesting except maybe Oregon/Wisconsin. But seriously.... fucking Virginia Tech?

VT's schedule:
Sept. 3, 2011 Appalachian St. W 66-13 1-0
Sept. 10, 2011 at East Carolina W 17-10 2-0
Sept. 17, 2011 Arkansas St. W 26-7 3-0
Sept. 24, 2011 at Marshall W 30-10 4-0
Oct. 1, 2011 Clemson L 23-3 4-1 (0-1)
Oct. 8, 2011 Miami-FL W 38-35 5-1 (1-1)
Oct. 15, 2011 at Wake Forest W 38-17 6-1 (2-1)
Oct. 22, 2011 Boston College W 30-14 7-1 (3-1)
Oct. 29, 2011 at Duke W 14-10 8-1 (4-1)
Nov. 10, 2011 at Georgia Tech W 37-26 9-1 (5-1)
Nov. 17, 2011 North Carolina W 24-21 10-1 (6-1)
Nov. 26, 2011 at Virginia W 38-0 11-1 (7-1)
Dec. 3, 2011 at Clemson L 38-10 11-2 (7-2)
 
BCS show is just now starting, I'm guessing those are just Mandel's projections. Hopefully anyway.....


Edit: Just revealed the top ten, title game is LSU vs. Alabama. Alabama's BCS score was .942 vs. .933 for Ok State.
 
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