OFFICIAL Final Fantasy XII thread

I don't feel like I've done anything extra, just the hunts and exploring everything (which was fun for me). So far I haven't had any money problems, though I don't think I'm all that far in.
 
When you start buying Forgotten Grimoires at the bazaar you start getting plenty of drops. If you're willing to sit back and build up a chain, you can REALLY watch the loot flow in. I've gotten 8 pieces of loot from a single monster. I rarely steal from regular enemies, but it's sometimes worth stealing from bosses, since they tend to have some more interesting stuff.

I just finished piecing together the medallions, so i'm off to get Chaos now. I really can't stand the fact that the medallions are next to impossible to get without cheating and looking at a guide. That, the Zodiac Spear conditions, and a few other things that you pretty much can't get without a guide are my one real gripe about the game.
 
[quote name='TahoeMax']When you start buying Forgotten Grimoires at the bazaar you start getting plenty of drops. If you're willing to sit back and build up a chain, you can REALLY watch the loot flow in. I've gotten 8 pieces of loot from a single monster. I rarely steal from regular enemies, but it's sometimes worth stealing from bosses, since they tend to have some more interesting stuff.

I just finished piecing together the medallions, so i'm off to get Chaos now. I really can't stand the fact that the medallions are next to impossible to get without cheating and looking at a guide. That, the Zodiac Spear conditions, and a few other things that you pretty much can't get without a guide are my one real gripe about the game.[/quote]

I just beat him, and he is a fucking prick.

The two bosses before him are easy, but you'll probably want to run out and save before Chaos. I barely beat him.

For Fury, have two healers and a tank with Decoy, berserk him if you wish. When Fury gets low on life he starts popping Baccus Wines and berzerking himself. If you have one of your healers set to constantly cast dispel, he spends all his time using items and rarely hits you.
The behemoth is easy. Just have two fighters and one with decoy and beat the piss outta him. He has an attack that causes about 4k damage and Immobilize and disable, so have esuna on both fighters and heal with your healler. Bring a couple of Chronos Tears as one of them uses stop a lot.

As for Chaos... The reason he's so hard is because you can't use Attack. You're stuck with magics and technicks. The guide recommends Soul Eater and Bio, but save all your mana for healing. The chaos jets only have about 5k HP and go down pretty quick, but Chaos sucks. Have your main tank running with bubble and protect and then give EVERYONE haste and shell and give your healers faith.

His normal attack isn't too bad, ~1000. He has a magic attack called Wirlwind which will hit for about 4k WITH shell. The thing that makes him so bad is Aeroja. It hits everyone no matter where they are for about 4k with shell and sometimes confuses you. Have your tank run away from him while your healers buff everyone up and pray you can survive.
 
I'm about 9 hours in and I now have all 6 party members. Should I level all of them up, or just focus on leveling up 3 of them?
 
eh, Chaos was pretty easy. Then again, i'd already beaten Zodiark and Ultima, so i think i was sorta overpowered for him anyway. I just fried his little helpers with a couple Scathes and kept flaring and scathing him. didn't even use any items other than a couple smelling salts after his Aerojas.

I'm trying to get the second Zodiac Spear (in the Henne Mines) since i missed the fixed one. Is there any evidence that anyone has actually found it in that chest? The chest has spawned a few times but i've only gotten gil...i just want to make sure i'm not wasting my time. I've gotten it down to about 2 minutes per runthrough, and i'm getting the chest to appear maybe 10 times per hour. I also read somewhere that once you get the chest to spawn, it's a 10% chance to get the spear...OR it's a 10% chance for ANY item and a 10% chance that the item is the spear (a 1% chance for the spear itself). Any ideas as to which of those is correct? 10% from the chest is okay, but 1% is kinda ludicrous.
 
:lol: That might help. I'm not that far in the story yet. No Flare or Scathe for me.

As for the Zodiac... I'd say just get it with a gameshark or something if you're able. The whole chest thing was lame as hell.

[quote name='TahoeMax']eh, Chaos was pretty easy. Then again, i'd already beaten Zodiark and Ultima, so i think i was sorta overpowered for him anyway. I just fried his little helpers with a couple Scathes and kept flaring and scathing him. didn't even use any items other than a couple smelling salts after his Aerojas.

I'm trying to get the second Zodiac Spear (in the Henne Mines) since i missed the fixed one. Is there any evidence that anyone has actually found it in that chest? The chest has spawned a few times but i've only gotten gil...i just want to make sure i'm not wasting my time. I've gotten it down to about 2 minutes per runthrough, and i'm getting the chest to appear maybe 10 times per hour. I also read somewhere that once you get the chest to spawn, it's a 10% chance to get the spear...OR it's a 10% chance for ANY item and a 10% chance that the item is the spear (a 1% chance for the spear itself). Any ideas as to which of those is correct? 10% from the chest is okay, but 1% is kinda ludicrous.[/quote]
 
[quote name='TahoeMax']eh, Chaos was pretty easy. Then again, i'd already beaten Zodiark and Ultima, so i think i was sorta overpowered for him anyway. I just fried his little helpers with a couple Scathes and kept flaring and scathing him. didn't even use any items other than a couple smelling salts after his Aerojas.

I'm trying to get the second Zodiac Spear (in the Henne Mines) since i missed the fixed one. Is there any evidence that anyone has actually found it in that chest? The chest has spawned a few times but i've only gotten gil...i just want to make sure i'm not wasting my time. I've gotten it down to about 2 minutes per runthrough, and i'm getting the chest to appear maybe 10 times per hour. I also read somewhere that once you get the chest to spawn, it's a 10% chance to get the spear...OR it's a 10% chance for ANY item and a 10% chance that the item is the spear (a 1% chance for the spear itself). Any ideas as to which of those is correct? 10% from the chest is okay, but 1% is kinda ludicrous.[/QUOTE]

I thought I read somewhere it was a 10% chance the chest would appear, a 10% chance it would contain an item, AND a 10% chance that said item would be the Zodiac Spear. So the odds would be ludicrous/10.
 
yeah, which would make it 1/1000 for any given runthrough. However, if it's 10% for the chest and 10% for the spear, that's manageable. So far the only times i've gotten the chest it's been full of gil :(
 
Looking at the guide...
The chest has a 10% chance to appear, a 10% chance to be an item and a 10% chance to be the spear. So yes, effectively 1:1000.

It sounds like a bad deal, but looking at the book, it shows the chests around it and the chests in that area cough up about 7k gold or a megaelixer. Might not be too bad to just run laps, save, reload, etc. It'd take some time, but you could get a lot of money.


[quote name='TahoeMax']yeah, which would make it 1/1000 for any given runthrough. However, if it's 10% for the chest and 10% for the spear, that's manageable. So far the only times i've gotten the chest it's been full of gil :([/quote]
 
money is pretty meaningless at this point in the game. i've got over 1,000,000 gil. i need 600K for the tournesol when it comes around, but that's about it. Megalixirs are excellent, though. i just fought some enemies a little deeper in, since i needed a couple soul powders for the bazaar, anyway. brought Basch up a dozen levels in the meantime, which was nice.
 
[quote name='Puppy']Negative feedback? Everything seems positive for it. It's been great so far.[/QUOTE]

Read a few pages back and you'll see negative feedback, including mine.
 
This one isn't too great. I kinda quit playing after the first judge fight. Nothing is drawing me in, the story is very meh. I don't like having to switch characters to keep them on par and I don't want anyone falling behind. The game looks pretty and all but thats about it. Oh yea...I really hate that fucking camera.
 
I've found the camera isn't an issue at all. I would have preferred you could reverse the axis, but I got used to it within a few minutes, and it's no worse than practically every console action game (and better, because you can pause the action any time, etc.)

Switching characters is much less of an issue than in earlier FF games IMO, and you probably don't have to if you don't want to.

I'm a bit over 32 hours in now, and the story has a very different feel from 6-10, but it's still well done. I've been impressed to by how subtly the characters "act". They're very nuanced, when most games are just trying to make characters look decent.
 
For some reason, I'm still playing this game. It hasn't quite gotten to the point where it's a chore to play. For every fault the game has, I'm sort of digging the rest. I know this post makes no sense but neither do my feelings for this game. Every time I'm about ready to completely give up and throw it on my TL, I get sucked back in for a few more hours.
 
[quote name='Puppy']I've found the camera isn't an issue at all. I would have preferred you could reverse the axis, but I got used to it within a few minutes, and it's no worse than practically every console action game (and better, because you can pause the action any time, etc.)
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I learned to control the camera after a few hours, but when I go back to play Gears of War I always turn the camera in that game the wrong way. :cry:
Really how hard would it have been to include an option to choose if you want the camera inverted or not? I'm no programmer, but it doesn't seem like it would be all that difficult.
 
I love the freedom in the game. I managed to stumble into the caverns where Addramelch lives and killed him at lvl 28. Fighting an Esper 10 levels higher then you was fun.

Plus I got some nice loot off the enemies there. Currently farming em for 2 more helmets that boost my magic defense by more then 20 points over my currently equipped helmet.
 
grrrr i'm having a helluva time getting the last high arcana i need for the tournesol. Oversouls aren't dropping any Soul of Thamasas, and the rare monster in the Necrohol isn't dropping any of them, either. haven't gotten any of either one for over an hour of brawling
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']Read a few pages back and you'll see negative feedback, including mine.[/quote]

Bleh, I really wanted to like this game, I started it up again and log another ten hours or so. But I just really can't stand this game for some reason. I really wanted to like it, I really did. :cry:
 
If your close to beating it, I recommend finishing it. In retrospect, I'm glad I finished it as the ending was pretty satisfying and somewhat brought the game together.
 
[quote name='Kendro']If your close to beating it, I recommend finishing it. In retrospect, I'm glad I finished it as the ending was pretty satisfying and somewhat brought the game together.[/QUOTE]

"That ending really tied the game together, did it not?"
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As for me, I was well over the 50% mark, probably like 60-65% done, when I quit, but I just couldn't take the remaining 35-40%.
 
[quote name='Thongsy']Bleh, I really wanted to like this game, I started it up again and log another ten hours or so. But I just really can't stand this game for some reason. I really wanted to like it, I really did. :cry:[/QUOTE]

I wish I could have dropped all the story and all of that BS and just done grinding and cool boss fights.

I can see where the game would be very awesome at the end with all the uber awesome bosses but I can't force myself to play through the story.

Maybe when I rebuy it for $20 in a year.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']"That ending really tied the game together, did it not?"
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fuckin' A!

I can see where the game would be very awesome at the end with all the uber awesome bosses but I can't force myself to play through the story.
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Is this a joke? This is the lightest the story's been in a FF game since V. And you can skip every cut scene IIRC.
 
[quote name='pete5883']
Is this a joke? This is the lightest the story's been in a FF game since V. And you can skip every cut scene IIRC.[/QUOTE]

Nope, this may be the lightest story but it's also the fucking worst one ever. I hated the characters, the story, everything.

Maybe if I started the game at a high level and could just take on elite marks it would be awesome... I just didn't have the patience to trudge through all the BS to get to that point. For me, I can't get through the 40 hours needed to get to the awesome stuff.

Dosen't matter, I bought the game for $38, sold it for $40, so I got paid to play it for a month.
 
It looks like the Limited Edition guide with the Ashe cover is fetching $$ on eBay. It's hard for me to comprehend why these people would pay double for something that they can most likely get in the store. I'd still seen many LE guides in the stores.
 
[quote name='eau']It looks like the Limited Edition guide with the Ashe cover is fetching $$ on eBay. It's hard for me to comprehend why these people would pay double for something that they can most likely get in the store. I'd still seen many LE guides in the stores.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but can you find one with the Ashe cover on it?
 
fuck me...just killed Yiazmat...what a monster of a battle. Took me the better part of a day. Wow, now i can have a life again.
 
Can't wait to pick this up again over winter break.. it's been in hiding, along with the rest of my games these past weeks/months.
 
Just got the Wyrmhero blade...great sword with sweet equip effects, but MAAAAAN, is it slow. the rest of my team gets two attacks before my guy with wyrmhero gets one. Kind of absurd, really. oh, well. that's that for me and FFXII. Story closed.
 
[quote name='martin8me']is it true about that a optional boss takes 7-6 hours to beat?[/QUOTE]

There's one boss with 10 million + HP, but I dunno how long he takes to fight. I don't see any battle going on longer than 60 minutes,but I have nothing to back that up with.
 
it's actually 50 million. There's one with 8.5 million that takes about an hour to kill (Hell Wyrm). Yiazmat has 50 million and is much harder to damage, hits much harder, and goes absolutely berserk at the end of the fight, making the last few bars take forever to wear down. it took me probably 8 hours with characters at an average level of about 85 and some of the best gear you can get.

If someone could kill Yiazmat in 60 minutes...i dunno...i'd probably buy them a game or something. Even with a zodiac spear, tournesol, and yagyu darkblade, just the time it would take to take down all that health would still be a few hours, ignoring character deaths, healing, and buffing (which you need every 5 seconds or so)
 
8 hours in one sitting? Well, that's absurd. Kudos to you; I don't think I'll ty that.

I was thinking of Omega XIII (?); seeing as how I've only played far enough into the game to just get the dawn shard, I've a long ways to go.
 
I've gotten the dawn shard and lost it and got it back again. Now I'm back on the Giza Plains doing some serious grinding. I like how the environment has changed during the game. After loving this game and then really hating it, I'm back on the upswing. It's an 8/10 so far.
 
nah, i went out with my girlfriend for lunch, had a nice dinner, and went to the gym. Heh, not even i could do 8 hours at once. You can leave the battle at any time and go save, restock on items, etc. He doesn't regain HP if you leave.

Omega was a little anticlimactic after Yiazmat. Took probably 45 minutes including some trial and error with gambit settings and getting blown away a few times. Probably has 1.5 million HP, i'd guess. It's just quick as hell and hits hard.
 
I suppose I could pause the battle and come back to it...but since I retired my PS2 in favor of a new PS3, which could heat a two story home for the winter, I don't really want to let that dude run for that long (8 hours if I play it just as is).

*crap*
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I suppose I could pause the battle and come back to it...but since I retired my PS2 in favor of a new PS3, which could heat a two story home for the winter, I don't really want to let that dude run for that long (8 hours if I play it just as is).

*crap*[/QUOTE]
Were you listening to the Dude's story, Donny?

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He's saying that you can leave and save the game at any point during the fight.
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']Were you listening to the Dude's story, Donny?

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He's saying that you can leave and save the game at any point during the fight.[/QUOTE]

I was reading up on Yiazmat after that discussion, and realized you could save.

:oops:

Kinda takes the thrill out of it, I suppose - but if I lost after 7.5 hours of battling, I'd throw my whole fucking console against the wall. All things in moderation, I suppose.
 
If you got trapped in the arena with him for the duration, that would be the most heinous fight in the history of games. Even with the ability to run at almost any time, i had to use a couple megalixirs just to cover my escape and regrouping.
 
If I'm remembering right, it works like a flight-sim sort of with everything reversed. I got used to it pretty fast, but it is weird you can't change it. Ironically, when I played a game with a normal camera, THAT felt slightly weird at first.
 
The camera in FFXII is opposite of most games. It takes me a few minutes to adjust if I've been playing another game where I can control the camera but it's nothing terrible. I have bigger beefs with other areas of gameplay but the camera is very serviceable and does the job it's supposed to do.
 
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