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3x XP over the 12 days of Gearsmas + 6x XP in submission on the last 2 days:

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CELEBRATE THE 12 DAYS OF CHRISTMAS—GEARS-STYLE

This holiday, Epic Games has a special present for all you Gearheads out there… actually, 12 presents, along with a few other surprises as well! Beginning December 23, the Gears multiplayer experience will transform into the 12 Days of Gearsmas.
On the first day of Gearsmas, everyone gets a Noobsaw. This means that shots will not interrupt the Lancer’s Chainsaw. Once it gets revving, only a kill can stop it.
On the second day of Gearsmas, it’s time for some melee instagib. One attack will tear your enemy to shreds in the usual messy fashion, with no need to hit twice.
On the third day of Gearsmas, you’ll get three Frag Grenades for every pickup. Worried about saving that last grenade? Just throw it—you’ve got three of ‘em.
On the fourth day of Gearsmas, Boomshots rule the day. Four shots, more bang for your boom.
On the fifth day, Wingman converts to five one-man teams. Get ready for 1x1x1x1x1 action all day.
On the sixth day, you get six satellites powering the Hammer of Dawn. Think infinite ammo, Gears 1–style.
On the seventh day, each mortar gets seven shells instead of the typical three. Bombs away!
On the eighth day, it’s a blast from the past with eight retro gamers—four vs. four, in classic Gears action. (Note that Horde and Wingman won’t be affected by this change.)
On the ninth day, the Boomers invade Horde mode. You’ll get squads of Boomers on all waves ending in the number 9.
On the tenth day, you’ll get 10 waves of Kantus to spice up your Horde experience—if you can survive it, that is…
On the eleventh day, eleven meatflags will be taunting (Chaps + 10 players = 11!), so you can go ahead and add double experience to Submission matches.
And the twelfth day? How about all 11 modifications applied all at once? Get ready for total action-packed Gears mayhem!
If that wasn’t enough, there’s still one more surprise: Golden weapons will be unlocked for all 12 days, and the current double XP will convert to triple XP. And that means that Days 11 and 12 will be 6x XP in Submission. Chaps better get his running shoes on!
Happy holidays from everyone at Epic Games and Microsoft Game Studios, enjoy the festivities, and have a very merry Gearsmas!
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Hmmm im trying to clear out some of my hard drive. If i bought the ALl Front Collection, can i delete the Flashback MP map pack? Not sure if those work together or if its something i dont need because flashback maps are in the all fronts collection.
 
If you bought All Fronts -- not just Dark Corners -- you should be able to delete Flashback, or Combustible or Snowblind, for that matter. All fronts should be all four of those combined, so you should be able to safely delete Flashback. If you actually end up having any problems, you can always redownload it anyway.
 
If anybody is up for doing horde achievements, I still need to do 20ish?-50 on snowblind and 25-achievement on memorial and nowhere as well as 19 & 20 on sanctuary.
 
damn....that's some crazy rule mods!

if they released a 'Clay Carmine' download, I'd buy that! Or any 'COG soldier pack' DLC for that matter. Com'on Epic, throw us some goodies while we wait for GoW3.
 
[quote name='freshzen']If anybody is up for doing horde achievements, I still need to do 20ish?-50 on snowblind and 25-achievement on memorial and nowhere as well as 19 & 20 on sanctuary.[/QUOTE]

I still need to do 1-50 on Nowhere, I'd definitely be down for doing that, along with helping out with some of the other stuff. But I'm heading out of town for Christmas, so it would have to be next week.

Edit - I actually still need to do 20-something thru 50 on Snowblind as well, forgot about that. So yeah, hit me up next week, or let's plan a good time.
 
Hmmm, i just played a game where i was revving my chainsaw and someone shotty me and i started to stutter. This is not supposed to happen. Im getting playlists like before where we could pick just guardian, submission, king of the hill, etc all by them selves. Is this the correct playlist? Otherwise i dunno why it made me stutter, i was clearly revving before he shot.

EDIT 2-3 more games and its still not working. I dont know why. This is stupid.
 
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[quote name='The 7th Number']Hmmm, i just played a game where i was revving my chainsaw and someone shotty me and i started to stutter. [/QUOTE]

Yup, it was happening to me, too. The first couple games I played tonight, I thought it was much easier to chainsaw, but the last couple seemed back to normal. Definitely dropped my saw several times. It might have taken more than one lancer bullet, but a single glancing blow shotgun round, or a short burst of lancer fire would do the trick. Not what I was expecting, either. But, I got from 44 to 45, so I'm done for the night. I'll try to get to 46 next time I play, probably Sunday.
 
Played a lot tonight, still didnt seem like the noobsaw was in effect. Hopefully tomorrow the melee will actually work. But wow i forgot how fun this game is.
 
don't know about any noobsaw but I did get a lot of chainsaw kills. I played 6 or so full matches of Annex. the host quit for two others and I quit twice due to lag.

is it just me or does the game play slower than normal. at first I thought it was because I've been trying mw2 for a while but one match I was roderunning much faster, much like how I felt it was before.
 
I cleared my HD cache and now the melee 1 hit down is working. First game it wasnt. But its funny to hear people complain about people using the melee when its a special today. LOL. Why cant people have fun with it?
 
Exactly. You have to expect people to try to use whatever the day's gimmick is. I did have one awesome moment last night, in a game of annex, where I consecutively chainsawed 4 different members of the opposing team while defending the circle. I couldn't beleive no one put a shotgun to my head in the middle of the animation, but they kept coming one at a time, "black ninja style." Pretty much wiped out the whole team without getting killed. I had to laugh a little at that.

At another point, though, I swear a guy shot me from around a corner, a little host advantage for him, maybe. I saw him, got out of his way, then randomly died a split second later. Ah, well. In this game, unfortunately, you will have that. But the fun moments usually outweigh the frustration with lag.
 
Really wasn't a good idea to play CoD:MW2 before GoW2, the drama falls flat on its face and I just wish they at least used L3 for roadie-runs. They can take as long as they need to with the 3rd one.

Delta squad makes delta squad from Killzone 2 look good. fuck me, just let me fill the shoes of a nameless grunt with a helmet developers.
 
Does it still take forever to start games? Just can't get over how smooth Gears of War 1 online was and how 2 was a mess in terms of how long you had to wait for a damn match.
 
You know what's worse than being owned online in this game? The enemy waiting till you bleed-out to kill you even though they can kill the leader in a snap.

Nazi Zombies from CoD:WaW spoiled me with waves of AI so in Horde mode it feels very artificial, if that makes any sense.

Very disappointed in a franchise I was envious since the first, and the used market is so saturated with the same feeling, netting below Halo 3. Should not of redeemed that 'All Fronts Collection' code.
 
[quote name='Monsta Mack']Does it still take forever to start games? Just can't get over how smooth Gears of War 1 online was and how 2 was a mess in terms of how long you had to wait for a damn match.[/QUOTE]

That hasn't been a big problem for me in a long, long time, probably either the first or second title update back last winter. If you're still having problems connecting, it may be your router settings. Gears 2 is very picky with connections if you have "strict" NAT settings, moreso than other games. Every once in a while I'll get into a lobby that just won't launch, but after a minute I just back out and try again, and it's no problem. Doesn't happen often at all.
 
The next 4 days, 29th-1st seem boring. Ill still play because double XP and im having more fun playing this than i would playing CODMW2. But i cant wait till 6 times XP. Im gunna try to play those days as much as possible. So far since this started ive been able to rank from 70 to 73 and im almost to 74.

One man wingman was fun, but wasnt what i expected. I thought i would be all alone, not have a stupid bot connected to each person. Not only did they give your position away, but waiting for bots to kill other bots got boring at the end of matches. Plus a lot of people just camped waiting for others to come walking by.

I dont know why they keep changing smokes. One minute it stuns, then im playing and it knocks people down to the ground, now they dont do shit. This really sucks when you have a guy coming at you with a meat shield. You are pretty much helpless.

Speaking of meat shields, i still dont understand why they made the A button the button to use to pick up a meat shield. I hate when im trying to pick one up and i roll instead. Did they even test this out? Or maybe they purposely wanted it to be a bit difficult to get in the heat of the battle?

I still hope gears 3 has a playlist where its free for all and winner has to get so many kills, till that amount is reached, everyone gets respawned when they die. One of the things i hate about gears is dying and then having to wait for others to finish.
 
Sure i dont mind. I have to say when its laggy i can suck pretty bad. But then again i think most people will be just going after kills, rather than trying to capture the flag. I can see games lasting a long time. Which i wont mind as long as im not host, because sometimes i end up getting 0 points. IDK its weird, in wingman when im host i get 0 points, but when im host in guardian most of the time i get points. Though there always seems to be a person or two missing when im host. Sucks, i need better internet. Oh yeah, just reached level 74. :)
 
I'm about half way to 66. Most I've played this game in the past 6 months. The amount of XP required to reach 100 is very disappointing, its not that I don't enjoy playing the game but I've already spent a ton of time playing it. Hopefully there will be a good 8 full weeks out of 2010 that they will do triple XP on.
 
DANG! was just playing guardian on tyro station and i killed one dude, then the leader, and then the other 4 all by myself. I think ive done the same once before. LOL After i downed the last dude i had to take a moment to breathe before i killed him...LOL. Wow. Too bad we ended up losing overall 1 game to 3. I was leader the other 2 times. Ended up 9 kills 5 downs, 6 deaths.
 
[quote name='freshzen']To be completely specific, right now I still need to do Nowhere 38-50, Sanctuary 19-20, and Icy Dead People 19-50.[/QUOTE]

You still interested in this? I'm free tonight, or during the afternoon tomorrow, or pretty much any time over the weekend.

I need Nowhere 15-50 & Icy Dead People 31-50, more than happy to do the couple Sanctuary levels as well. Anybody else interested?
 
Wow i just witnessed a guy...username something like MaGxR4MBO go 50 kills, 15 downs, and 2 deaths. It wasnt till the last round tied 2-2 in guardian that he started to serve them up. He was the last guy left. They kept trying to run up in Jacinto trying to kill him and he would kill them one by one. Then finally he left the safe area and went, killed the leader, and the rest of them. I was like holy crap. Obviously he was host but still even for a host ive never seen someone do that well.

PS level 75! LOL.
 
I quit a game earlier today because the host had such a bad advantage. He'd down me in less than 2 seconds without active reload with his lancer, and trying to win a shotgun fight with this guy was just stupid. I'd shoot him perfectly square from 2 feet out and he'd take no damage then kill me half a second later.
 
[quote name='freshzen']I quit a game earlier today because the host had such a bad advantage. He'd down me in less than 2 seconds without active reload with his lancer, and trying to win a shotgun fight with this guy was just stupid. I'd shoot him perfectly square from 2 feet out and he'd take no damage then kill me half a second later.[/QUOTE]

You make it sound like that's rare. That's how most matches seem to go most of the time.
 
Hmm im starting to wonder if its really worth playing Submission with 6 times XP. I played a match and got 500 points ended with around 2,000 XP. I just finished another game and got 15,000 XP but that took 30 minutes. Well i guess its a little better than if i had played guardian 4-5 times within the same 30 minutes. Plus its easier to get kills in submission. But in my last game they had chaps in their safe area and kept shooting him and dropping him, and repeating. Just trying to get easy points.

On another note, what is up with chainsaw duels? Its like i go to chainsaw a guy shooting his lancer and all of a sudden we are dueling. Shouldnt he just be cut in two? Another time i want to chainsaw a guy in the back while he was shooting a lancer and we ended up in a chainsaw duel and i lost. BS!
 
Even with 6x XP Submission is still barely better. If you fact in the amount of times you'll have to quit a game because the meatshield glitches, its about an even split.
 
I've come to the conclusion that I will never get the 10 meatshield achievement. Though, this might help. 15k XP for a match of submission sounds like a nice chunk if you consider that Horde is 450/wave and 30 minutes would probably net you ~4000 XP if you've got a good team. I don't know how many points you could get for Guardian in that same amount of time, but that sounds like a good exchange rate if you ask me.
 
For the meatshield saving your life achievement can't you just down em, frag tag em and then grab them as a meatshield and they save your life from the blast?
 
I can't remember how I got that one, if you're asking in reference to my post above, I was talking about the submission meatshield achievement. The save your life one should come easily if you just pick them up often enough, it probably qualifies when it finally blows up and leaves your hands not by your own choice. But, by your logic, you might be able to do this: frag tag the wall, pick up a meatshield, walk towards grenade and if you don't blow up you with them, you should be golden.
 
So i just leveled up to 78, thats 1 whole level today. I also eliminated a whole guardian team by myself and i wasnt host.....i actually did that a couple days ago too, pretty awesome feeling. But majority of the matches have lag and it can get annoying when you shoot someone perfect and they dont die.

Why is it everytime i play guardian on nowhere, the leader always runs up to the top of the roof, and ends up dead in less than a minute. Then when im leader i run behind the gas stations where the torque/sniper is and no one ever follows me and i end up dying. Thats one thing i hate about guardian is sometimes everyone just takes off and doesnt follow me when im leader, or someone doesnt stay back with me. I cant defend myself when i get bum rushed by 3 or more guys.
 
Am I the only one who thought that "eleven meatflags taunting" meant that we would all be playing as Chaps/Franklin/etc? That is, we would all be the various stranded meatflag characters for the day?

Just hit level 48. Not sure if I'll make 50 by tomorrow night, but got close, anyway.
 
didn't see you on 7th...

I only played a bit but seriously I don't think submission is worth it at 6x most of the time. I'd say half the matches are even with some Guardian ones in the same time duration but most just drag on, taking longer than half an hour (nearly an hour, luckily never over so far) which runs the risk of the host quitting (and making more time wasted).

Epic really needs to just have a 10x event and keep everything at 5x or something (Horde should whatever it was). It is ridiculous considering how the netcode deals with connections and lag. Now I'm not saying other shooters don't have this, but the fact that matches take more time to finish than in other games and respawn time (why the hell do I have to wait for teammates that dies 10 sec after me to respawn) (makes the wait time and wasted effort more noticeable.

with that said, I still enjoy the gameplay when connection is stable and no douchebags messing around.
 
Yeah i dont think 6 times XP is really that big of a difference. I did a quick observation, in 5 matches of guardian i averaged 263 points a minute. In submission i averaged 311 points per minute in 4 total games, one which was 31 minutes long. The longest guardian match i played during that was 13 minutes. So i think its not that much better, but its still better by a little. Guess it depends on if you want your points little by little, or in big chunks. Most XP i got was about 17,000, and a couple 14 and 15 thousand XP games. I was mad today, we had submission vs all bots and some dude hurried and finished the game cos he needed 2 meatflags for an achievement. Lame! But im really loving todays all in one day....1 hit down melee is fun as hell. I dont care how cheap it is, i love doing it. LOL.
 
Not sure which mod I enjoy less, 1 hit melee or 4 player teams. Also adding extra ammo for weapon pickups doesn't help. I swear all anybody is trying to do today is melee. Melee of War, so not fun.
 
Something I would never advocate under normal circumstances happened last night while playing submission on River, (the most atrocious map for a disorganized team) we were getting killed by two guys on torque bow to the point where their top guy had 50 kills+ and ours was only at 11. This went on for about half an hour and they weren't even slightly interested in playing the actual game, so we were getting nowhere in a hurry. This guy was level 81 and was 99% accurate with torque. I swear he never missed. I don't know how someone could be that lethal that they could hit you on the run, in mid-dive, through windows, through the cars, etc. I ended up quitting, which I never do because I'd rather take the 1500 point penalty than stay and let them continue to kill me and my team before we can even really leave the spawn point. It was abysmal and I hope with all my tiny little black heart that they somehow got no points for being douches.

Made up for that match and then some ten minutes afterwards.
 
Son of a B...just played for like 20 minutes and when we were going to win the host quit and cheated us out of our points. Its ridiculous that they dont auto switch it to another host when the original host quits. This is BS! Then i had another match where all they did was go into some space and pick up and drop the meatflag all match. It wasnt fun at all. I dont mind if they want to go for points, but get it by killing the other team. Just sitting there while 2 guys pick up the meatflag and the other two keep killing whoever comes by is just garbage. I gave them all negative rep for unsupporting conduct.
 
And thats the last time im playing submission for a while. I dont care if its 6 XP or not. Its not fun while people bring the meatflag into an area and keep picking him up and dropping him and repeating it 100 times. I just played another match where they did it till each member had 10,000 points at least. Had to of lasted about 40 minutes. If i was host i would have just quit and fucked each and every one of them. If you want points get them legit by killing people, not picking up and dropping a meatflag. Thats just bullshit! I guess Epic really overlooked this aspect of the game, next time give 6 times XP to something you cant boost like wingman.
 
I was only able to join 7th for one game of submission. My strategy depends on the map. If it's one of my favorites like River, I'll just frag tag and torque like crazy. This match however it was Gridlock. The other team won the first round within 2 minutes (maybe less) killing all of us. Next round I took everyone out and got the cap. Next round I got 3 torque kills and then a cap when the last guy almost got the win. They were mad when I said "Good game" (it was for me got over 7.5k xp with 3k points in under 10 minutes). Then 7th left :cry: so I had to wait a bit longer for matches to start.

Anyway for submission, I down the guy and pick him up and repeat if my team isn't near me since I won't have a good chance for the cap. It also allows me for a shield while I recover then I can drop and pull out my shotty or power weapon. I also try to time it so the guy gets back up and blasts the opposite team away. I score around 2k-5k points per match (about 5k-10k xp during this event) with matches taking about 30 min . In Guardian I score in the mid/high 1000s usually (1.5k-4.5k xp during event) ttaking a bit over 20 min. For longer matches (i.e. purposedly dragged out) Guardian is better while Submission is better if you play to win.
 
7th -- same thing just happened to me, but it was my team. Two of the guys on my team did that over and over for a good half hour. Not a fan of that. I did get a ton of kills fending off the other team, though, so I guess I took advantage of the situation... but when I finally got a chance, I did end one of the rounds with a capture/ring. Earlier tonight, I was on the receiving end of an Annex match that the other (host) team used for pointfarming. Me, a noob, and two bots against four guys working as a team, refusing to capture the final 5 ring points they needed for a win for just over an hour. Ridiculous. I refused to take the negative XP, so I actually just flipped the tv over to football for a few minutes, lol. Whatever.

And the good news... I just got my level 50! Whoo-hoo! Now this game is going back on the shelf for a while, until I get the motivation/opportunity to finish off the two Horde achievements I still need. (Nowhere and Icy Dead People)
 
I got to level 79 just now. Sorry Gamer i would have played more but i went to watch simpsons and few other shows. But my last match i actually got knocked down from a frag. I really wish they would make up their minds on what they want frags to do, at least now i can use them to get rid of meatshields. I did get 2 times the XP in guardian but i only got 2 frags in that game instead of 3, so i guess gearsmas is already over??? Didnt think it would end till like 5 am in the morning haha. I dunno, i hope they do keep it double XP for matches, i want to get to 80. Then i might give it a rest again till something comes up.
 
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