Official MLB 2K7 Thread; Out Now; Demo out Now; Reviews are in

[quote name='slickkill77']whats your point. Their players are finally coming too. If you look at the stats then it will show that Boston fan up their is foolish. How did Beckett do? #0 hr given up...nice. Unless you know what your talking about dont talk smack(to anyone)[/quote]

Chill the fuck out, he said your team sucks, and they do, deal with it.
 
I did look up the stats...the devil rays have been trying to dump badelli why is that?(contract up soon, other cheaper young players to fill in and keep the drays in last place) He played 92 games last season, yeah roughly 1/2 of the season..He missed all of 2005...and he was a .285 ish hitter playing roughly 3/4 of a seaosn...last I checked .285 in the of is an avg to slighly above avg player, not a marquee player.


delmon young, a half a seson, try 30 games. I can give you a bunch of sept callups over the past couple years that had great sept, and were nothing the rest of there career. He might be great, he might be an avg player.

Cantu played more games then bodalli and young last year and he hit what, .249....he mr stats try going to www.espn.com before talking shit. He hit .286 in 05 in about 150 games...his rookie year, the only year he hit .301, he played 50 GAMES. Yeah he played less then 1/3 of the season and hit .301, he is a sure hall of famer. His 28 homers came in his 2nd seaosn, don't try to say he is a .300 hitter and hit 28 homers in the same season...the year he his the homers he hit .286. Maybe it is because most pitchers just groove pitches against the drays figuring they could go play golf in florida sooner. Oh by the way, his obp% numbers last year were horrible. .295 is a poor excuse for a guy you are giving way to much cred to.

Looking at ba/homer/ stats doesn't give you the full picture, espically when they are playing 30, and 90 games. For over 90 games last year, chris shelton, 1b tigers, was a great player but he must of fucked up somewhere as he was dropped from the mlb club as the tigers picked up sean casey.

Josh beckett has nothing to do with it, yeah he sucked it up last year, but I am also not in this thread talking about how good some mediocre players are. I am not talking about beckett being a cy young guy this upcoming season. He has incredible stuff, but he is a stubborn fuck that throws straight fastballs when runners get on base, and untill he can/will throw his nasty curve and slider with runners on base he won't do well in the AL east.

As for the royals, yeah the drays have more alleged talent, but there records beg to differ. Last year the AL central was the toughest division in baseball, and the royals had 1 more win in the tougher division.

As for the drays themselves, the orioles have been a rather shitty team for awhile, the have 2 players that can hit and a bunch of inconsitent pitching, but the almighty drays still finished 9 games behind them. They didn't even score 700 runs, the royals scored 757. Granted the royals let up a hell of a lot more runs, but they did have several 10 - 20 run scored against them games last year...They had 8 games with 13 or more runs scored against them. That is 104 runs in only 8 games.

Its ok that you like them and feel they can develop, but don't be tossing around stats on a .300 hitter in 30 games to support yourself, espically when you try to throw around that I know nothing about baseball and stats. I have been actively following baseball for over 18 years. For years I was a cal angels fan, and atl braves fan (late 80's), and I would follow the red sox considering I live in MA. It was in the mid 90's I became a diehard sox fan, as my college friend I met were diehard yanks fan. It was from then on that I couldn't stand the yanks. Yes the sox had a tough season last year, but considering pretty much every single starting player missed at least a week in the month of aug, they did ok.

Team wins for the drays

98 63
99 69
2000 69
2001 62
2002 55 (ouch)
2003 63
2004 70 (good work)
2005 67
2006 61 (watch out al east in 2007, they were just buttonhooking us into thinking they were bad)


Also the proper way to develop players, maybe the drays should take a page out of the a's/marlins. Have the drays ever not finished in last place in the al east?

If you want to still talk trash about how great the worst team in baseball is going to be, bring it to the mlb forum in the offtopics section

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113058&page=23
 
OK just stop......Were ending this arguement. The only reason i brought up delmon is because you said he has been called up multiple times and hasnt done anything...Did you not? Also the Rays arent trying to dump Baldelli so i dont know where you got that. He signed through 2011 i think same with Crawford. They are shopping him but all teams do that.
I didnt say Cantu was good last year i said he was injured and as for his rookie season those stats were off the top of my head so back down chief.And one last thing. Since you obviously dont follow the Rays you wouldnt know that after the trade deadline is when they play their best because they trade away all the useless guys and bring up the young guys.
One more last thing. Yes the rays may be last but that is because they cant spend like the Yanks, Soxs etc....Look at the Tigers. They went from first too last with a couple of vet aquisitions and young pitching. The Royals dont have anything om the minors compared to the Rays.
And just to remind you i never started this arguement. People like you did that thought it was neccessary to take a cheap shot at the rays.


"Wow your an idiot. First Baldelli played the full season after he came back. Plus he has only had two serious injuries both in successive years. He hit .300 with about 15 hr. D Young has only been in the majors for 1/2 a year so what are you talking about. He hit .317 w/ 3hr and 10 rbi in 200 ab. Cantu Hit 28hr and 100 rbi in his first season and last year he was injured.
Your an idiot who obviously knows very little about baseball. Why dont you do some researh friend before you come in here and act like an @$$hole. Your prolly a Yankees or Red Soxs fan arent you? You know very little about baseball or the Rays for that matter. Despite their record the Rays were much better than the Royals"

Hmm thats funny..I never once said Cantu hit .300. And yes D Young only played in 30 games so you are helping my arguement. You did say he has been up and hasnt done anything. Wow I think you have truly made yourself look foolish
 
Back on point now...

[quote name='klwillis45']Going off of slick's list in the OP here's the team situation:

Open teams: Mariners, Orioles, Nats, Indians, Astros, Pirates, D-Backs, Rockies, & Dodgers

Picked twice: Phillies, Red Sox, White Sox, Giants, & Yankees.[/quote]

Let's try and get this sorted out shall we????
 
please quote exactly where I said young had been up many times...he has played 30 games and hit .317...and no he hasn't done much at the pro level. 30 games means nothing considering the season is 162. some players are hitting over .500 after the first month of baseball, does that mean that they are going to be great. Chis shelton had what 12 homers in the first month, I believe he ended up with 16 or so. Young was called up in sept, when the majority of clubs aren't even competing anymore due to be completely out of the playoff race. These clubs, like the redsox last year are giving time to young players from AAA, and AA to see what holes they need to fill. Some old school names of great late season callups that amounted to very little in there mlb career. Phil Plantier and Kevin Mass

The only reason why baldelli hasn't been traded is because no one wants him for the price the rays are asking...You got lucky in the kazmir trade, and feel that you should fleece every team since then.

The tigers have ownership that is willing to invest in veteran players. What veteran producing player has the rays stepped up to invest in? The Devil Rays are 4 starting pitchers, a bullpen, a closer and several position players short of competing in the al east. Maybe in the NL you could be better, but not in the AL east or central

Don't be calling me stupid or that I know nothing about baseball, or for me to look at the stats, when you are pulling stats for a player off the top of your head and you are wrong, as I said earlier if you feel the need to continue to try to insult my baseball knowledge bring it to the mlb board right here

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2631621#post2631621
 
There is a review for the game in this months Game Informer, so I went ahead and scanned in the text.

Major League Baseball 2K7
With the winds of change sweeping across the entire league, the upcoming season is shaping up to be one of the most exdting ever. The identities of most of the teams have changed, and thanks to the powerful scent of money, everyone is a likely contender. The San Frandsco Giants paid a king's ransom to add Barry Zito to their rotation. The Chicago Cubs are hoping that Alfonso Soriano can earn the team a new nickname other than "Doormat of the National League." The Boston Red Sox forked out an unprecedented $51.1 million for the exclusive negotiating rights with Seibu Lions star Daisuke Matsuzaka. We even saw the lowly Kansas City Royals open its pocketbook to overpriced free agents.

The new face of the league can also be seen in MLB 2K7, thanks to drastically improved graphics. I've always been of the mind that visuals don't really make a game, but in this case they really do. A baseball game has never looked this good, and you really do gain something by seeing such a high level of visual authenticity. In last year's game, Ichiro appeared to be Caucasian. In this year's game, you'd swear that you were seeing him through a live HD video stream. Developer Kush Games has captured the exact likeness of almost every key player that either steps up to the plate or takes to the mound.

Having a player look exactly right is only the start; most of their motions have been captured as well. When Nomar Garciaparra steps out of the box, he goes through his routine of adjusting both batting gloves. You can't help but feel intimidated by Dontrelle Willis' wild wind up and delivery. You'll also see signature home run celebrations, waggles, and mannerisms. Zoom cams cut in to show the remarkable details on the faces, and replays constantly show off the amazing animations.

The gameplay is built on the same engine as last year. Rather than going back to the drawing board to rework the pitching or batting mechanics, Kush has simply smoothed out the rough edges. This has led to a better playing, yet largely familiar game. Fielders no longer move like drunken bums, the batting motion is less choppy, and the pitch velocity now has some heat behind it. It plays quite well, but it's still a ways away from perfect. Tracking down fly balls feels just right, but I still can't seem to wrap my glove around ground balls. The transition between the pitching view and fielding still leads to disorientation and a pause that would help you get to hard hit grounders. You mostly have to rely on positioning and CPU assistance to get to a screamer. There really is nothing to timing hops, either.

On another note, even if you are throwing a gem of a game, your pitcher tires far too quickly. Breaking balls quit falling off of tables mid-game, and you usually are forced to turn to the bullpen - even in low pitch shutouts - around the seventh or eighth inning.

The front end of the game would appear to be excavated from an archeological dig. The Crib is the same from years past, and Franchise mode offers little new other than ticket prices. Online is largely unchanged as well, but this game still boasts one of the best online leagues out there.

MLB 2K7 is certainly a better game, but most of the new content is of the visual variety. I can't stress enough how impressive this aspect of the game is. It captures the look, sound, and feel of the game better than anything that you've seen before.-REINER


The Edge
Even though the 360 version boasts Achievements, the PS3 gets props for its motion-based swinging. This mechanic is designed for thrust motions, but I found that you can make true swings once you understand its sensitivity. Both versions offer something great, which makes The Edge a toss up.


Bottom Line = 8.5
>Concept: Realism is everything. This year's game hones in on this aspect and hammers it over the fence.

>Graphics: So lifelike that people will think you are watching a real game. The wind on the jerseys, player details, and animations are some of the best in the biz.

>Sound: You'll hear fans making comments about players, and the ambient noise is great. Joe Morgan has nothing of interest to say, however.

>Playability: The same respectable play as last year, with slight changesto batting and fielding.

>Entertainment: It's a little sloppy in key areas, but it's still an immensely enjoyable play.

>Replay Value: High.


Second Opinion = 8.5
Luckily for baseball fans, 2K Sports has made good use of its third-party exclusivity with Major League Baseball. The developer has taken its solid core of baseball simulation and layered a genuinely next-gen presentation on top for the 2K7 edition. In most cases, player models are impressively close to the athletes' real-life appearances, putting the visuals on par with the best sports games to date. This is the title we've been waiting for to satisfy our digital baseball needs for the current crop of machines. It's not without some flaws - Jon Miller and Joe Morgan are somehow even more painful to listen to than in the real world, mediocre pitchers like Gil Meche are entirely too able to paint the corners, and starters tire far too quickly. However, the franchise is definitely headed in the right direction.-ADAM
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Overall 8.5 sounds great to me! I can't wait til this game comes out so we can see these amazing visuals first hand.
 
They gave "The Edge" to the ps3 which is funny to me. The online leagues are 12 maz and the swinging motion is just a thrust. Its not like wii sports baseball. I cant wait for this game. As for the person that keeps arguing stop. You arent making relavant points and we arent getting anywhere
 
[quote name='slickkill77']They gave "The Edge" to the ps3 which is funny to me. The online leagues are 12 maz and the swinging motion is just a thrust. Its not like wii sports baseball. I cant wait for this game. As for the person that keeps arguing stop. You arent making relavant points and we arent getting anywhere[/QUOTE]
They called the edge a "tossup", doesnt sound like the Edge going to the PS3.

As for the person arguing, I'd say his assesment is pretty spot on. You have to learn to be objective about your team.
 
I know he said toss up but he was leaning towards the ps3....As for that person. He keeps making things up that i am not saying.So i am ignoring him. PLus people like him dont actualy watch the rays or follow them so they dont know crap about the team. Stats are part of it but not the whole story. I could argue with him all day but since he seems to like every good team in the MLB i wouldnt get anywhere anyways. I never said cantu was a star i said MAYBE.....I am done with you from here on out. You just like hating on teams that dont win. Why not pick a team and stick with it. O and why not look at the number of players the rays use before the trade deadline and after it. They are better after the deadline
 
the review sounds good for the game I hope it is better then last years version

I figured you wouldn't post in the mlb thread where a lot of posters know/understand baseball...Yeah I like the braves b4 they were good, and also b4 you were born...and the redsox I started to really like when you were 3, and the mid to late 90's the sox were a pretty horrible team...I guess I just like the best teams though....Can't you not handle debating something with facts and sticking to what you said? No you didn't say cantu was a star, you listed him with the other players as being talented. Last I checked, .249 is a backup 2b on most mlb clubs. Maybe it was an off year, maybe that is all he has I couldn't tell you. Talent means nothing if they don't perform on the field. The only player I know in recent history that was more valuable then his stats was kevin millar and the way he kept the clubhouse loose in 04 and that was only good for 1 season once his stats dropped. Badelli is a good young player from RI. People up here love him, he has above avg speed, avg batting abilities (.285 or so career hitter usually don't make the all star team unless they have to take one from the rays) and he has avg power, at this current point in time he is an avg to slighly above avg player..Go back and read what you wrote and stop trying to be dismisive as you have made personal comments about my intelligence and love for the game. Bring it the mlb thread...
 
...Baldelli has avg speed. Thats a zinger...wow. Yep hes only 54 out of 69 in steals, and only 17 triples in 3 seasons. Avg speed indeed. And you know why i said he was(Cantu) because he has talent. I dont know who started this dumb arguement but lets stop. Obviously you wont back down and neither will I. Lets leave it at this. You like the Soxs, I like the Rays. Good Luck this season, but i hope we beat you.
 
Great, another game where the CPU starting pitcher will be done by the 5th/6th inning, no matter the situation. MLB 06: The Show butchered the bullpens last year, and while MVP 2005 did a great job in regards to pitcher stamina, the CPU would use the same 2 or 3 relievers every game. Why is it so damn hard to program smart pitching/bullpen AI?
 
as great as the visuals and graphics will look in this game, i think most baseball fans would be happy if just MVP 05 was made backwards compatible. but that will never happen it seems
 
Sliders will fix the stamina issues. As long as the franchise glitches are fixed i am happy. Everyone should go to the gametrailers.com page and watch the interviews theres two new videos that show amazing things. Like people actualy warming up in the bullpen....

For those that care BB said that they have tons of different hair styles so Many will have dreads and Arroyo will have his um brush
 
Yeah, the review seems to say...LOOKS REALLY PRETTY, Gameplay is just average (same as last year basically). Hopefully they fixed the glitches and the stamina thing is annoying, but sliders will fix that (hopefully).

I'll still pick this up, but I may hook up my old XBOX again and D/L some Action Replay rosters for MVP 05.
 
No they tweaked the gameplay. The only things gameplay wise that were messed up was the outfielders arms(which have been fixed from watching vids) and the fielders goofy throws which have been fixed. Graphics/animations were a lot of the problem if you think about it
 
An 8.5 from Game Informer means nothing. Literally. The consensus could come in anywhere from a 70% to a 90% elsewhere. Semi-kidding here, but their review scale isn't even the '7-9' one. It's more like the '7.25-8.75' one. I also think they're the poster child for impossibly corrupt and paid-off gaming publications. Not kidding at all there. I can't wait for my subscription to run out.
 
[quote name='hhhdx4']any idea when well get a demo?[/quote]

Should either be a week or two before the actual game comes out. That's when the NBA/NHL demo came out.
 
I sure hope this is good....I want the demo soon :)

I plugged in my old XBOX and put in MVP 2005 with updated 2007 rosters. The game is still damn fun. Fielding is great, base running is easy (which many games screw up). No real flaws....Minor League teams to manange which is GREAT. Will 2K7 include any of these features such as the minors?

EDIT:
So, no minor league GAMES, but they will have a full 25 AAA roster and a "FEW" AA players. Kinda lame once again. Also, still no one can get the 40 man roster right come Sept.1st. Why is that such a TOUGH programming thing?
 
[quote name='doubledown']I sure hope this is good....I want the demo soon :)

I plugged in my old XBOX and put in MVP 2005 with updated 2007 rosters. The game is still damn fun. Fielding is great, base running is easy (which many games screw up). No real flaws....Minor League teams to manange which is GREAT. Will 2K7 include any of these features such as the minors?

EDIT:
So, no minor league GAMES, but they will have a full 25 AAA roster and a "FEW" AA players. Kinda lame once again. Also, still no one can get the 40 man roster right come Sept.1st. Why is that such a TOUGH programming thing?[/quote]

I agree. If I remember correctly, ASB 2005 even had the 40 man call up AND Rule 5 draft in it. So why cant these new games get it right?
 
Even the old school pc high heat baseball games had the 40 man roster. I really don't understand it at all. If it helps any MLB the Show is supposed to have a 40 man roster for those with a ps3 as well. I honestly think I might pick up both games depending on reviews.
 
[quote name='TheRock88']I agree. If I remember correctly, ASB 2005 even had the 40 man call up AND Rule 5 draft in it. So why cant these new games get it right?[/QUOTE]
It had the Rule 5 draft, but not the 40 man roster expansion on Sept. 1st I believe. It did have a 40 man roster though(since it had the Rule 5 draft).
 
Ya know what I would like to see in sports games in general(since no one does it anymore)? Expansion. The year Madden had expansion was awesome. ASB's was ok, but at least it had it.
 
I need to try a demo before I get this. It looks amazing but last year's version was awful, especially compared to MVP from the year before. If you still have a spot in your league and I do get this, I'll take the Orioles though.
 
I think MLB the Show 07 will be great too. I thought the Show 06 was the closest thing to MVP 05 and the new features on the 07 version seem pretty nice.
 
[quote name='mr ryles']glad to see some more regular achievements compared to last years which had only 5 achievements.[/QUOTE]

The achivements look good so far compared to NHL2k7's, but I don't know the secret achivements :\ I just hope it isn't "Win 3 world series in a row" cause I hate those types. Also NHL2k7 achivements are VERY glitchy, and I hope MLB's isn't the same with 2ksports track record.
 
[quote name='doubledown']I may try out MLB 07:The Show also (since I have a PS3 also). MVP 05 is still damn fun though....[/quote] I wonder if MVP 05 is the greatest sports video game ever, I really couldn't say much i'd like to have on it. The franchise was stellar, and the only thing I didn't like about owners was how you couldn't take out the ugly batters eye in CF.
 
[quote name='rly723']anyone playing the old xbox games on the 360..i bought ASB 2005 and mlb2k4 on the cheap that are BC on the 360[/QUOTE]

I went to the lengths to get my old XBOX out....do some "things" to it to make it even cooler. Then get MVP 05 since it was dirt cheap and install the 07 rosters. The game is damn great. I love being able to actually play the AAA/AA/A games...I usually sim most of the game, then take over in the 8th or 9th.

Only wish it had the 40 man roster addition.
 
Well some stores are saying the 27th some are saying the 6th. You guys might want to call around and find out. Ill update you guys about my store in St Pete because im going there on tues
 
So I'm a little late to the party for the online league setup. It looks like its full already. I'm still interested in being in a CAG league so.... should we start up a 2nd league? If we have a 2nd cag league I'm calling the Cubs as my team. Anyone else still want to be in one?

P.S. if this game ends up taking a shit I won't buy it so this would be kind of a wait and see thing for me. But as of right now I'm looking to pick it up at release.
 
No dont worry about it. These are just preliminary. Once the game is out and we see who has the game then we will do a formal league so your not to late
 
[quote name='slickkill77']No dont worry about it. These are just preliminary. Once the game is out and we see who has the game then we will do a formal league so your not to late[/quote]
Ok thanks for the reply.
 
If the rest of the reviews are similar to GI's, this might be the first sports game I'll purchase since Madden 05. It's been years since I've gotten into a baseball game, other than Wii Sports.
 
[quote name='mr ryles']I hope it is in march, I will still be busy with crackdown halo 3 beta and NBA street .[/quote]

You can scratch the Halo 3 Beta off your list, considering the testing would start until the Spring ;)



As for this game, I really need a new baseball game, but with Crackdown, Jump Ultimate Stars(DS), etc, I'm not sure if I can actually afford to get this, too. I hope the demo comes soon, I want to try it out firsthand, and see if it'll be worth it to pick up a copy. :)
 
I cannot wait to play as the Pirates. Our dumbass GM outsmarted Schourholz and stole LaRoche from the Braves. I think the Pirates could be a surprising team this year. Probably not, but I have to dream. :)
 
[quote name='HideMyAssDotCom']I cannot wait to play as the Pirates. Our dumbass GM outsmarted Schourholz and stole LaRoche from the Braves. I think the Pirates could be a surprising team this year. Probably not, but I have to dream. :)[/QUOTE]


Wait until he forgets to take his meds. He's a decent player, but he's goofy as all fuck.
 
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