Proposition 8 same sex marriage ban poll

[quote name='mykevermin']I think we should ship all gay people off the country. Like send 'em to American Samoa or some other island we don't give a fuck about.

Who's with me?[/quote]

Totally, even though how they live their noncriminal lives doesn't affect me at all, its still nice knowing you can ruin someones life just because you can!!!
 
[quote name='Strell']Man. It would almost be worth the tempbanning to post up some gay porn in here right now, where it would be sure to do massive damage.[/quote]How's that three-hour schadenfreude erection going?
 
[quote name='Strell']Man. It would almost be worth the tempbanning to post up some gay porn in here right now, where it would be sure to do massive damage.[/QUOTE]

Oh dude totally. I'm gonna get myself banned when I put a video of my boyfriend in a Jesus costume, and I dress up like Mary and totally ride that shit.
 
Look how cocky you liberal punk bitches have gotten in the past hour right after Obama got office! No. Do not pass "Go". Do not collect $200. You have the white house, I give you that. But don't think for a second that you can eat the whole pie, freaking rats. You will not get our country.
 
Californians who attend church weekly voted for Proposition 8 by an 83 percent to 17 percent. Those who attended church occasionally voted 40 percent in favor and 60 percent opposed. Californians who never attend church were 14 percent in favor and 86 percent against.
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That right there shows you where the division lies. No one can honestly support Prop 8 without getting religion involved.
 
[quote name='nintendokid']Look how cocky you liberal punk bitches have gotten in the past hour right after Obama got office! No. Do not pass "Go". Do not collect $200. You have the white house, I give you that. But don't think for a second that you can eat the whole pie, freaking rats. You will not get our country.[/quote]

Hey, your mom needs to use AOL on the computer. Time to get off.
 
[quote name='nintendokid']Look how cocky you liberal punk bitches have gotten in the past hour right after Obama got office! No. Do not pass "Go". Do not collect $200. You have the white house, I give you that. But don't think for a second that you can eat the whole pie, freaking rats. You will not get our country.[/QUOTE]

Shouldn't you be hangin out at the glory holes while your wife is sleepin?
 
[quote name='nintendokid']Look how cocky you liberal punk bitches have gotten in the past hour right after Obama got office! No. Do not pass "Go". Do not collect $200. You have the white house, I give you that. But don't think for a second that you can eat the whole pie, freaking rats. You will not get our country.[/quote]

My my, testy are we? Sensing the winds of change in this country?

Funny how Obama's first words were about bi-partisanship cooperation and already you losers are unearthing your confederate flags..

We were discussing Prop 8 and the indecency of people who actually vote Yes on it.
 
[quote name='lilboo']Oh dude totally. I'm gonna get myself banned when I put a video of my boyfriend in a Jesus costume, and I dress up like Mary and totally ride that shit.[/quote]

I'd jack off to *that*, too!
 
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This, um. This isn't... this isn't gonna end... um...

It's like when you're drinking with your friends and there's always that one guy who has to totally outdo everyone else and you're all, "No man, don't rub your dick on the Subway window," or, "No, I don't think you can use his crutch to pole-vault over the fire." They never listen...
 
Hmm, newscaster just commented that people are getting violent about this prop, people are getting beat up...With Prop 8 signs. :/
 
[quote name='joe2187']Hmm, newscaster just commented that people are getting violent about this prop, people are getting beat up...With Prop 8 signs. :/[/QUOTE]

WAIT. Are the gays kickin ass or are the christians beatin the gays up?!?!
 
[quote name='JJSP']That right there shows you where the division lies. No one can honestly support Prop 8 without getting religion involved.[/quote]

Just heard on KFI that exit polls showed that blacks voted 69% yes - 31 no on prop 8. Whites voted 45% yes - 55 no. See, I can create a division line too! It must be a racial issue!
 
[quote name='BigT']Just heard on KFI that exit polls showed that blacks voted 69% yes - 31 no on prop 8. Whites voted 45% yes - 55 no. See, I can create a division line too! It must be a racial issue![/QUOTE]
Do you have to try to be so close minded, or does that shit come naturally?

Lemme guess - another "choice", right?
 
[quote name='The Crotch']Cuttin' ya off right there. Did you choose that conclusion? You chose to pursue the questions that you had, yes, but did you choose the answers? If you wanted to, could you... um... choose... your way back?

If you answer yes to that, then this mini-discussion is over, 'cause our brains apparently work in two very, very different ways.[/quote]
My answer is: religion is a joke. When a book(s) tells you that you are better than X people or that X people are 'sinners' for doing something that they didn't choose in the first place, that's where i draw that line. And that goes for almost all religions, not just Catholicism.
 
[quote name='nintendokid']Well, at least the (liberal) blacks got something right this election.[/quote]

Seriously, can we get a ban on this guy?

edit: Reported him.
 
[quote name='JJSP']Do you have to try to be so close minded, or does that shit come naturally?

Lemme guess - another "choice", right?[/quote]

How is pointing out that black voters support prop 8 to a much greater degree than white voters closed minded? You should have countered my assertion by arguing that black people are more religious than white people in order to make this more congruent with your religion argument... ;)
 
Ok, seriously nintendokid, stop. You're making those of us looking to have a reasonable discussion look bad. Why is it that whenever topics like these come up, you always have to deal with retards on both sides that make you look bad.
 
[quote name='RAMSTORIA']i think this has a good change at going through. the last week or so at every major intersection there have been people out with signs waving and lots of honking. signs all over the place. the only place i ever hear no on is on tv, never from people on the streets. (friends aside). lets not forget a similar ballot passed 10 years ago.[/QUOTE]

told myself. im honestly not surprised.
 
[quote name='SynGamer']IF it's passed, i can see it being struck down as unconstitutional. Separation of church and state...[/quote]

Agreed. This is one issue I will fight tooth and nail for until I'm dead.
 
[quote name='nintendokid']But knowing how you are, you would most likely do something else to my ass rather than kick it...

If you know what I mean. Ahem![/QUOTE]

ok, at this point i just wouldnt take this "kid" seriously anymore. just pay him no mind. he just wants attention.

please do not reply, post about, or refer to nintendokid in anyway!
 
[quote name='nintendokid']But knowing how you are, you would most likely do something else to my ass rather than kick it...

If you know what I mean. Ahem![/QUOTE]

First of all, I'm a bottom. PROUD BOTTOM SON. :nottalking:
Secondly, most homophobia comes with in. Basically, your a bottom who hasn't blossomed yet.
Lastly, shut up. Get a grip on reality. The whole point of this thread and this ballot is that people's rights are up for grabs. If you are straight this has no concern on you. That's all it is.
 
Hmm. At this point I'm considering either going back to Fallout (having trouble getting into it at the moment), trying to sleep (won't work 'cause my sleep schedule is perma-fucked), or making a big, long penis, and hopefully well-thought-out post here (which will simply get a "tl;dr" from most people).
 
[quote name='The Crotch']Hmm. At this point I'm considering either going back to Fallout (having trou[/QUOTE]

Get to the point, Crotch. Sheesh.
 
[quote name='JJSP']Hey now. :([/QUOTE]

MEANING, this will do NOTHING to your life.
Me getting married will not change your life WHAT SO EVER--Good OR bad!

This is why this SHOULDN'T even be an issue.
 
[quote name='nintendokid']Well, at least the (liberal) blacks got something right this election.[/QUOTE]

wat

TMK said he didn't vote.
 
[quote name='Hex']Agreed. This is one issue I will fight tooth and nail for until I'm dead.[/quote]

Except the ban has nothing to do with religion. Even if there was a separation of church and state (there isn't) it wouldn't apply to a ban on gay marriage anymore then it would apply to a ban on polluting the environment. Even if there was a separation of church and state, it still wouldn't apply here as the law really has nothing to do with any religious affiliation.
 
[quote name='spmahn']Except the ban has nothing to do with religion. Even if there was a separation of church and state (there isn't) it wouldn't apply to a ban on gay marriage anymore then it would apply to a ban on polluting the environment. Even if there was a separation of church and state, it still wouldn't apply here as the law really has nothing to do with any religious affiliation.[/QUOTE]
Then why ban gay marriage? What are the reasons for banning it?
 
[quote name='spmahn']Except the ban has nothing to do with religion. Even if there was a separation of church and state (there isn't) it wouldn't apply to a ban on gay marriage anymore then it would apply to a ban on polluting the environment. Even if there was a separation of church and state, it still wouldn't apply here as the law really has nothing to do with any religious affiliation.[/quote]
I'm trying to stay calm about this, so please bare with me...

When you say religion has nothing to do with Proposition 8, it's simply morals, how do people decide what their morals are? What influences their morals? I know the answer...do you?
 
[quote name='JJSP']Then why ban gay marriage? What are the reasons for banning it?[/quote]

Who says you need a reason? It's the will of the people.
 
[quote name='spmahn']Except the ban has nothing to do with religion. Even if there was a separation of church and state (there isn't) it wouldn't apply to a ban on gay marriage anymore then it would apply to a ban on polluting the environment. Even if there was a separation of church and state, it still wouldn't apply here as the law really has nothing to do with any religious affiliation.[/quote]While I figure that the vast majority of the yes votes were based on religion, I can see this being argued in court fairly well.

When the Supreme Court of Canada ruled on this matter, it was the matter of civil rights and the inherent inequality of "separate-yet-equal" status, not the separation of church and state that they talked about.
 
[quote name='SynGamer']I'm trying to stay calm about this, so please bare with me...

When you say religion has nothing to do with Proposition 8, it's simply morals, how do people decide what their morals are? What influences their morals? I know the answer...do you?[/quote]

Oh I have no doubt that those are for Prop 8 are religiously motivated, my argument was that it doesn't matter. The motivation for the law doesn't matter, it's the law itself that's important.
 
[quote name='spmahn']Who says you need a reason? It's the will of the people.[/quote]Okay, that's it, long post comin' right up.

EDIT: And by "coming right up", I mean "in the next hour or so". I take my time. Don't wait up.
 
[quote name='spmahn']Oh I have no doubt that those are against Prop 8 are religiously motivated, my argument was that it doesn't matter. The motivation for the law doesn't matter, it's the law itself that's important.[/quote]
And that law is infringing on the way people go about living their lives and their rights compared 'normal' marriages. Seriously, it's no concern to your neighbor or your government who you want to marry (so long as they are male or female). It should be up to the churches and towns/city offices to decide individually if they want to marry a gay couple.
 
[quote name='The Crotch']Okay, that's it, long post comin' right up.

EDIT: And by "coming right up", I mean "in the next hour or so". I take my time. Don't wait up.[/QUOTE]

fuck that. Let's play Starcraft.
 
[quote name='lilboo']First of all, I'm a bottom. PROUD BOTTOM SON. :nottalking:
Secondly, most homophobia comes with in. Basically, your a bottom who hasn't blossomed yet.
Lastly, shut up. Get a grip on reality. The whole point of this thread and this ballot is that people's rights are up for grabs. If you are straight this has no concern on you. That's all it is.[/QUOTE]

actually it concerns every resident in the state.

It should remain a civil union with the same legal
obligations as marriage. Marriage is a man and a woman as far as im concerned, that doesnt mean
two dudes or a couple chicks shouldnt be able to form a civil union and reap the same entitlements as a married man and woman. but thats just my personal feeling.

what i really dont like is legislating ones morals. and thats really what i feel this has become.
we all have a right to live our lives how we please as long as we are not encroaching on the lives of others.
we dont have the right to make laws so others will live their lives how we deem fit.
 
[quote name='SynGamer']And that law is infringing on the way people go about living their lives and their rights compared 'normal' marriages. Seriously, it's no concern to your neighbor or your government who you want to marry (so long as they are male or female). It should be up to the churches and towns/city offices to decide individually if they want to marry a gay couple.[/quote]

Well, that's your opinion and I respect it. However it's not up to the courts to make laws, it's the will of the people, that above all else is what this country was founded on.
 
[quote name='lilboo']MEANING, this will do NOTHING to your life.
Me getting married will not change your life WHAT SO EVER--Good OR bad!

This is why this SHOULDN'T even be an issue.[/quote]


i think you are being disrespectful now, when one group loses rights, we all lose rights. As a member of a minority group that has been persecuted throughout history, I have learned to not stand by while others lose their freedoms. So yes this does effect my life. This is not about gay marriage it is about peoples civil liberties being decided by the majority, when they should not have to be granted by anyone.
 
[quote name='spmahn']Well, that's your opinion and I respect it. However it's not up to the courts to make laws, it's the will of the people, that above all else is what this country was founded on.[/QUOTE]

I don't remember voting in the Patriod Act, or endless wiretapping, or higher wages for representatives, or for Dubya back in 2000...
 
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