PSN has returned. What freebie games are you getting?

[quote name='defmonkey05']I was kinda thinking the same thing. Sony has two agendas here for sure. One is to make nice and the other is maybe bring in some new plus members in the future. Now if they wanted to do something like that, I think 3 months would've been better, once newer members seen what was offered they might keep their service.[/QUOTE]


yeah 3 months free would have been a better way to entice people to purchase it but i guess they felt one month would be enough ( maybe because they have some big things planned for that month?). but even if they gave three months i know alot of people would still be whining about it (and you know who you are).

but for everyone complaining about that free month just take advantage of whats there that you can keep. they have a number of dynamic themes available for plus members and avatars that youll be able to keep. the sonic dynamic theme is pretty damn cool and i believe theres a fireplace dynamic theme and a star wars one. considering how much they charge for those alone youre going to get some value out of that month.
 
I hyped about the fact I might be able to snag free stuff from each of my regional accounts (JP UK and HK)

I think theyre doing a good job with this. I was laughing last night because while I was reading about the press conference I received an email from Best Buy about my info being stolen for the second time in two years. They arent giving me anything.
 
Sony is not a victim. They did a poor job of securing their servers and they wonder why they got raped. Is like when people build houses too close to the river and wondering what's going on when the river swells and floods their homes.

Common sense is not so common.
 
[quote name='TctclMvPhase']I hyped about the fact I might be able to snag free stuff from each of my regional accounts (JP UK and HK)

I think theyre doing a good job with this. I was laughing last night because while I was reading about the press conference I received an email from Best Buy about my info being stolen for the second time in two years. They arent giving me anything.[/QUOTE]

I should tell the story about when I was living in Gilbert, AZ. I was going to work @ godaddy, just waiting for the bus. I go to throw away the wrapper of my cigarettes and I look down in the trash can and it's filled, FILLED with papers, and what was on those papers you ask? Social Security Numbers, thousands upon thousands...... I'm talking Weird Al spread sheets and shit.

I called News Channel 3, then did an about face and went to work. Never checked up on it ever again. Still dunno what it was all about. All I know is that that was a lot of numbers.....and whats even more funny is that you can find this kind of information everyday in dumpsters behind businesses.

So just think, somewhere in the world, all your info is prolly sitting in the trash just hangout waiting to be picked up by a crack head with a hard-on for credit card fraud. All because A.) The company doesn't care about you B.) No one at the office knows how to use a shreader C.) They got some sneaky fucking inception ninjas working for them.
 
[quote name='TctclMvPhase']I hyped about the fact I might be able to snag free stuff from each of my regional accounts (JP UK and HK)

I think theyre doing a good job with this. I was laughing last night because while I was reading about the press conference I received an email from Best Buy about my info being stolen for the second time in two years. They arent giving me anything.[/QUOTE]

I should tell the story about when I was living in Gilbert, AZ. I was going to work @ godaddy, just waiting for the bus. I go to throw away the wrapper of my cigarettes and I look down in the trash can and it's filled, FILLED with papers, and what was on those papers you ask? Social Security Numbers, thousands upon thousands...... I'm talking Weird Al spread sheets and shit.

I called News Channel 3, then did an about face and went to work. Never checked up on it ever again. Still dunno what it was all about. All I know is that that was a lot of numbers.....and whats even more funny is that you can find this kind of information everyday in dumpsters behind businesses.

So just think, somewhere in the world, all your info is prolly sitting in the trash just hangout waiting to be picked up by a crack head with a hard-on for credit card fraud.
 
[quote name='laaj']Sony is not a victim. They did a poor job of securing their servers and they wonder why they got raped. Is like when people build houses too close to the river and wondering what's going on when the river swells and floods their homes.

Common sense is not so common.[/QUOTE]

It amazes me when people say Sony's servers were so insecure. People do realize it took 4 years to even hack the PS3 right? That's a lifetime in a hackers world and quite an impressive feat. Any hacker will tell you that. There is no such thing as an unhackable system, it's just a matter of when. Sony was the biggest target in the hacker world for at least a year now, so with so many attempts it was only a matter of time. I shouldn't really have to explain any of this, but as you said, common sense is not so common.
 
Usually I delete my cc after each purchase and of course this last time I can't remember if I deleted it for sure or not. I assume I did, but I'm not 100 percent sure. Should I cancel my card anyway just to be on the safe side or wait it out?


I agree with you ssjmichael. It took the hackers the longest to crack the ps3 out of all the consoles this gen.
 
[quote name='TctclMvPhase']I hyped about the fact I might be able to snag free stuff from each of my regional accounts (JP UK and HK)

[/QUOTE]

Oh my, I hadn't even thought about that. Hmmm... this could wind up being quite the freebie after all. I've bought stuff from the HK and JP stores before but I've never paid attention to what they've gotten as far as PSN+ goes.
 
[quote name='Blackout']Um, no. I'm talking about for personal reasons, since people might use that screen name as their email, account log ins, etc. I don't think people should be charged 10 bucks for it either.[/QUOTE]
I haven't run into many user names on PSN that sounded like they could also be an email address or other account log-ins, but a LOT of borderline offensive ones.

But people should have really put some thought into what their user name would be BEFORE making it universal across various accounts.
 
Just caught this on Kotaku

Hirai called out Anonymous by name. While he did not accuse the leaderless hacktivist collective of being behind this breach, Hirai noted past attacks for which Anonymous hackers did claim responsibility, including the publshing of personal information about Sony's top management, including information about their children.

fucked up.
 
Anonymous is pretty much a terrorist organization. They're bullies and they need to be taken down. Let's hope the FBI and DHS can find them and lock them up.

And for those who are blaming Sony for poor security, according to the diagram that FriskyTanuki posted, they had like 2 or 3 firewalls between each environment, and the exploit was from the application server. If you want to blame someone, blame IBM or Oracle, or whomever does their app server.

Also, I guess Bank of America, Citibank, and Chase have poor security as well:

Bank of America.
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/27328557/detail.html
- Citi
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/0 ... nk-atm-se/
- Chase where their network was down for around 3 days.
http://www.urbanmyths.com/index.php?/Te ... acked.html
http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/ch ... site-down/
 
[quote name='jh6269']Anonymous is pretty much a terrorist organization. They're bullies and they need to be taken down. Let's hope the FBI and DHS can find them and lock them up.

And for those who are blaming Sony for poor security, according to the diagram that FriskyTanuki posted, they had like 2 or 3 firewalls between each environment, and the exploit was from the application server. If you want to blame someone, blame IBM or Oracle, or whomever does their app server.

Also, I guess Bank of America, Citibank, and Chase have poor security as well:

Bank of America.
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/27328557/detail.html
- Citi
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/0 ... nk-atm-se/
- Chase where their network was down for around 3 days.
http://www.urbanmyths.com/index.php?/Te ... acked.html
http://www.consumerismcommentary.com/ch ... site-down/[/QUOTE]

I totally agree. No one should be blaming sony for this. It's someone else's fault.
 
[quote name='jh6269']Anonymous is pretty much a terrorist organization. They're bullies and they need to be taken down. Let's hope the FBI and DHS can find them and lock them up.

And for those who are blaming Sony for poor security, according to the diagram that FriskyTanuki posted, they had like 2 or 3 firewalls between each environment, and the exploit was from the application server. If you want to blame someone, blame IBM or Oracle, or whomever does their app server.

Also, I guess Bank of America, Citibank, and Chase have poor security as well:[/QUOTE]

Does this count Best Buy as well since I just got an email the other day telling me they were lax and one of their associates were compromised and my email information was leaked, this doesn't seem to be a good month for security leaks around the world...

I wouldn't say Anonymous are terrorists, but more a bunch of idiots playing to the crowd, who think they're more important than they are.

The asshats who got into Sony using the pirated firmware and other means, they're the ones that need hunted down and locked away, free games is one thing (which I don't condone) but jacking with 77 million peoples' personal information crosses that line of don't fuck with us (the customers) and that goes against any legitimate reasons they could have for attacking Sony when you go after the people you're suppose to be championing, but then again if they were self righteous conceited assholes, then they are only in it for themselves to begin with. Big surprise there.

Only a different note the PSN isn't down in totality, I had some stuff on my D/L list to finish getting (from various places in the world) and only the JPN and HK servers were completely shut down, I managed to D/L from the video and PSN store and they were gotten with no problems, so if you have anything you still need to get, you might be able to grab it, the only upside is you'll have no competition with traffic getting files.

Edit: Didn't see both of my points were made on the last page, ehh, nice to see I'm not the only one noticing these things.
 
At least some people are showing reason here. Sony did what they could to prevent such a thing. No one can honestly fault them for their security system. You'd be hard pressed to find any larger company that has not had a security breach. You guys are basically blaming the victim instead of the rapist. Makes no sense.
 
[quote name='jaydepps']At least some people are showing reason here. Sony did what they could to prevent such a thing. No one can honestly fault them for their security system. You'd be hard pressed to find any larger company that has not had a security breach. You guys are basically blaming the victim instead of the rapist. Makes no sense.[/QUOTE]

If Sony had such a bad security system this would have happened years ago. That's the way I see it. I don't care how good of a security system you have nothing is full proof. Those elite hackers could have took down whatever they wanted.

I agree with you jay.
 
[quote name='jaydepps']At least some people are showing reason here. Sony did what they could to prevent such a thing. No one can honestly fault them for their security system. You'd be hard pressed to find any larger company that has not had a security breach. You guys are basically blaming the victim instead of the rapist. Makes no sense.[/QUOTE]

So Sony is the victim of rape here? :roll:
 
this may be wishful thinking..but if I had a dead 60gb that I was never able to 'de-activate' in order to buy and download videos on my new slim, does anyone think the slate will get wiped clean? that would be super cool b/c I haven't even begun to research how to get the dead unit de-activated (from what I gather though you just have to call and get a nice rep on the phone..)

anyways, I'm on Day 10 of not using my PS3 :cry: really can't wait for everything to even out (main reason for not using it, is when it comes back online, I don't want 20+ posts to my Facebook for trophies syncing, people will think I'm an even bigger loser :lol:)
 
[quote name='token2k6']this may be wishful thinking..but if I had a dead 60gb that I was never able to 'de-activate' in order to buy and download videos on my new slim, does anyone think the slate will get wiped clean? that would be super cool b/c I haven't even begun to research how to get the dead unit de-activated (from what I gather though you just have to call and get a nice rep on the phone..)

anyways, I'm on Day 10 of not using my PS3 :cry: really can't wait for everything to even out (main reason for not using it, is when it comes back online, I don't want 20+ posts to my Facebook for trophies syncing, people will think I'm an even bigger loser :lol:)[/QUOTE]

You can contact sony to get a dead system deactivated. All they asked me for was the e-mail address I used to activate the account.
 
[quote name='jman619']Usually I delete my cc after each purchase and of course this last time I can't remember if I deleted it for sure or not. I assume I did, but I'm not 100 percent sure. Should I cancel my card anyway just to be on the safe side or wait it out?


I agree with you ssjmichael. It took the hackers the longest to crack the ps3 out of all the consoles this gen.[/QUOTE]

I say cancel it to be on the safe side.
 
[quote name='mwynn']You can contact sony to get a dead system deactivated. All they asked me for was the e-mail address I used to activate the account.[/QUOTE]

really? thanks for the input man! I'm gonna have receipts and serial numbers for reference too just in case..now to determine if I should call now or wait a couple weeks for this to blow over. I'm sure their 800 numbers are getting slammed!
 
Sony shook up a bees nest. Guess what. There's BEES in there. And they get ANGRY.

Not optimistic for the free month of PS+. Free addons for Pain and High Velocity Bowling incoming! lol

I think you can keep PSOne games that you get while subscribed if you cancel your subscription, but PSN games and addons don't stay, right?

Instead of picking some shitty old game people have or don't want they should just drop $15 credit into everybody's account(or rather make it redeemable from a website so that inactive accounts/multiple accounts cannot be redeemed). Let them spend it wherever they want and use it as an apology both to the users and to the publishers who are out almost a month of sales on the service.
 
So the one podcast I was listening to was saying that Sony is completely rebuilding their network because of this crisis. Anyone think that this might mean they finally get things up to speed and we stop having downloads at old dial up speeds? Would be nice if we could all start downloading stuff at proper speeds.
 
[quote name='MSI Magus']So the one podcast I was listening to was saying that Sony is completely rebuilding their network because of this crisis. Anyone think that this might mean they finally get things up to speed and we stop having downloads at old dial up speeds? Would be nice if we could all start downloading stuff at proper speeds.[/QUOTE]

Downloads wasn't slow for me on psn. Only day it was slow was on Tuesday's after the update hit. Sometimes updates to games is slow for me, but I usually found out there was a update and left it downloading if it was one of the bigger ones.
 
[quote name='jer7583']Sony shook up a bees nest. Guess what. There's BEES in there. And they get ANGRY.

Not optimistic for the free month of PS+. Free addons for Pain and High Velocity Bowling incoming! lol

I think you can keep PSOne games that you get while subscribed if you cancel your subscription, but PSN games and addons don't stay, right?

Instead of picking some shitty old game people have or don't want they should just drop $15 credit into everybody's account(or rather make it redeemable from a website so that inactive accounts/multiple accounts cannot be redeemed). Let them spend it wherever they want and use it as an apology both to the users and to the publishers who are out almost a month of sales on the service.[/QUOTE]

You get to keep everything except the one big name title. Minis, DLC, avatars, themes, PSX games, etc. all stay.
 
[quote name='jaydepps']I see you know what an analogy is.:roll:[/QUOTE]

Yeah, you used a shitty analogy. You made it sound like Sony is completely innocent here. They're clearly not. They're not a victim in this whole thing.
 
[quote name='jman619']Downloads wasn't slow for me on psn. Only day it was slow was on Tuesday's after the update hit. Sometimes updates to games is slow for me, but I usually found out there was a update and left it downloading if it was one of the bigger ones.[/QUOTE]

PSN is notorius for having horribly slow download speeds. Maybe your lucky or just don't notice it, but I know its not just me since I have heard numerous podcasts make jokes about it.
 
[quote name='Blackout']Yeah, you used a shitty analogy. You made it sound like Sony is completely innocent here. They're clearly not. They're not a victim in this whole thing.[/QUOTE]
How is Sony not a victim? They were hacked by an outside source. Their security system was where it should be considering they were the last system to be hacked. The data was behind multiple firewalls and encrypted. They have brought in a security firm and law enforcement to aid in fixing their problem. They are offering free content to help reconcile. Yet, you still feel the need to criticize and throw accusations.
 
[quote name='jaydepps']How is Sony not a victim? They were hacked by an outside source. Their security system was where it should be considering they were the last system to be hacked. The data was behind multiple firewalls and encrypted. They have brought in a security firm and law enforcement to aid in fixing their problem. They are offering free content to help reconcile. Yet, you still feel the need to criticize and throw accusations.[/QUOTE]

The only victims are the people put at risk and the people who got their shit jacked.
 
[quote name='Blackout']The only victims are the people put at risk and the people who got their shit jacked.[/QUOTE]
I agree they are the main victim, but to say Sony is not a victim at all is asinine. As someone mentioned before this free content is going to cost near half a billion dollars and we have no idea how much the consulting security firm cost nor the entire cost of the reconstruction of PSN. To say they are not a victim after the expenditures they have had makes no sense.
 
[quote name='Blackout']The only victims are the people put at risk and the people who got their shit jacked.[/QUOTE]

Then you do acknowledge that Sony is also a victim since someone infiltrated their system and jacked their shit. Thanks for clearing that up.
 
[quote name='Blackout']The only victims are the people put at risk and the people who got their shit jacked.[/QUOTE] :roll:


And the people who work there that lots jobs because of profit loss and scapegoating. and lots of other people.
 
[quote name='jaydepps']I agree they are the main victim, but to say Sony is not a victim at all is asinine. As someone mentioned before this free content is going to cost near half a billion dollars and we have no idea how much the consulting security firm cost nor the entire cost of the reconstruction of PSN. To say they are not a victim after the expenditures they have had makes no sense.[/QUOTE]

Sony is a multibillion dollar company. I'm sure they'll manage.
 
[quote name='basilofbkrst']:roll:


And the people who work there that lots jobs because of profit loss and scapegoating. and lots of other people.[/QUOTE]

I'm sure Blackout thinks they all deserved what they had coming to them.
 
Comment on Kotaku about Sony's recent talk

Every debacle that occurs in this industry just makes me more and more cynical.

How are any of you appeased by this?

Some people seem to be taking the stance that "this isn't Sony's fault; it's the hackers." I fail to see how Sony should sidestep any responsibility. Let's say I'm a Secret Service agent and my job is to guard the president. If I'm a foot to his left and a bullet cuts him down and I failed to react, whose fault is it?

The gunman's, right? But is it not also my fault? I had a duty to protect the man, I was able, and I failed.

Extreme or accurate?
 
[quote name='basilofbkrst']Comment on Kotaku about Sony's recent talk



Extreme or accurate?[/QUOTE]

Going with extreme. Considering everyone in the gaming community/industry is a security expert.
 
[quote name='basilofbkrst']Comment on Kotaku about Sony's recent talk



Extreme or accurate?[/QUOTE]

That is right on. Sony had the job to protect their own servers which they failed. But system works by costing Sony billions of dollars because of this. Violating various privacy protection laws in many countries, CC companies increasing transaction fees, and lost sales. I guess Sony is back to red on PS3 again. :cry:
 
[quote name='basilofbkrst']Comment on Kotaku about Sony's recent talk



Extreme or accurate?[/QUOTE]

Very extreme. Thats comparing apples with oranges.
 
Sony haters are upset that people are willing to accept sonys apology and move on, like normal people do. They want more RAGE. I suggest they play some MK Vs DC for extra RAGE while listening to linkin park. RAGE.
 
[quote name='Blackout']Sony is a multibillion dollar company. I'm sure they'll manage.[/QUOTE]

So because they are such a large company it is okay? Multi-billion dollar companies don't have rights that can be violated?

As for that Kotaku comment, if a secret service agent fails to take a bullet for the President I fail to see how that is his fault just as I fail to see how this is entirely Sony's fault. This isn't Hollywood. It isn't so easy to see where a shooter is gonna fire, just as it isn't easy to prevent all hackers forever.
 
[quote name='basilofbkrst']Comment on Kotaku about Sony's recent talk



Extreme or accurate?[/QUOTE]

Uninformed, entitled, and flat out stupid. There is no such thing as perfect security; and until someone points out explicitly where the exact flaw in Sony's security was, and how it makes Sony negligent, I will assume the people lodging such complaints are talking out of their ass.
 
[quote name='blitz6speed']Sony haters are upset that people are willing to accept sonys apology and move on, like normal people do. They want more RAGE. I suggest they play some MK Vs DC for extra RAGE while listening to linkin park. RAGE.[/QUOTE]

wouldnt they listen to RAGE against the machine instead?
 
Sony should have been more upfront at the onset, but this isn't going to have a major impact on me. Hopefully in rebuilding the PSN they make it better and hopefully it's back by the time Amazon sends me my copy of Portal 2.
 
[quote name='jaydepps']You get to keep everything except the one big name title. Minis, DLC, avatars, themes, PSX games, etc. all stay.[/QUOTE]

I beg to differ. You keep everything IF you keep a subscription going with PS+. I've listed just a few examples below, but every site detailing PS+ mentioned that you only keep the free games IF you stay subscribed. So in a month once the free month is up you'll lose all the content you're getting from Sony. No deal.

From last year(multiple sources) when PS+ launched:

1up.com: http://www.1up.com/news/sony-details-playstation-incentives

[quote name='1up']The June 29 premiere of PlayStation plus is getting closer, and Sony has now detailed all the bonus content that subscribers will receive when it kicks off. Though Sony outlined some features at its E3 press conference, the mass of content coming with the plan might convert a few skeptics. GamesIndustry.biz outlines Sony's plan to catch subscribers.


The four free games per month include a PlayStation Network game, two PSP minis, and one PS1 classic. The first month will bring Wipeout HD, Fieldrunners, Age of Zombies, and Destruction Derby. Those four games, and the subsequent monthly games, will be accessible as long as a subscription is kept, and can be reaccessed if a user subscribes again after letting it lapse.

Other monthly bonuses include two dynamic themes, two premium avatars, and downloadable content. Dynamic Little Big Planet and PlayStation "Game is Just the Start" themes will be available at the start, along with two Fat Princess avatars, and DLC from Killzone 2.
New 20-50% discounts will be offered every month. In the first month that means half-price God of War and LocoRoco costume packs for Little Big Planet, and 20% off Gravity Crash and Fat Princess.

Demos and beta trials will be offered to Plus users before other PlayStation 3 players, and full game trials will allow users to play a game for a pre-set time before buying. Shatter and Savage Moon will be the first two set for full-game trials. Plus users will also be able to automatically download firmware updates, game updates, and demos when the system is in standby mode. Demos for the first month will include Heavy Rain and ModNation Racers.

As previously reported, all of this will cost $17.99 for a three-month subscription, or $49.99 for an annual subscription. It looks like Sony is trying to kick off the service with a bang by including quite a bit of content for the first update, so we'll have to see how the company follows through in subsequent months.
One bonus that has been announced for Europe, but not the U.S., is a free digital copy of Little Big Planet for users who sign up for a full year between June 29 and August 3. Unlike the monthly games included in Plus membership, Little Big Planet will belong to users even if they unsubscribe. Sony Computer Entertainment America hasn't announced any similar free giveaways of full games, but we'll keep you posted if they do.[/quote]

Kotaku AU: http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/06/why-im-not-subscribing-to-playstation-plus/
[quote name='Kotaku']Sony’s premium PlayStation Network service launches tomorrow. For $69.95 per year, you get access to a selection of games, demos, themes, discounts and other downloadables. Do you think it’s worth it? I don’t.

PlayStation Plus is a new tier that sits above the existing PlayStation Network. Current PSN members will continue to get everything they currently get for free, including online gameplay. However, PlayStation Plus subscribers get more stuff on top of that for the duration of their subscription.

When it launches on June 29, you can purchase a yearly subscription for $69.95 or a 90-day subscription for $20.95.
According to the EU PlayStation Blog, you get:

Month 1: June 29 – August 3
* Intro offer: LittleBigPlanet (standard edition)
* PSN PS3: Wipeout HD
* minis: Field Runners, Age of Zombies
* PSone: Destruction Derby
* Full Game Trial: Shatter, Savage Moon
* Discounts: LittleBigPlanet God of War Pack – 50%, LittleBigPlanet: LocoRoco costume pack – 50%, Gravity Crash – 20%, Fat Princess DLC – 20%
* Premium Game Element: KillZone 2: Steel & Titanium DLC
* Push Demo: ModNation Racers, Heavy Rain
* Themes: LBP Theme, SCEE produced: PlayStation “Game Is Just The Start” Dynamic Theme
* 2 x Fat Princess Premium Avatars

Month 2: August 4 – September 1
* PSN PS3: Zen Pinball
* minis: Blast-Off, Alien Zombie Death
* PSone: Medievil
* Full Game Trial: Inferno Pool, Mushroom Wars
* Discounts: Zen Pinball Earth Defence Table – 20%, Warhawk Triple Combo Pack – 50%, Super Stardust HD – 20%, WipeOutHD Fury – 20%
* Premium Game Elements: Motorstorm Pacific Rift: Adrenaline Pack
* Push Demo: Flower, Pixel Junk Shooter
* Themes: SCEE produced: PlayStation + Dynamic Theme (in production), Heavy Rain Crime Scene Theme
* 2 x Heavy Rain Avatars (Bird and Butterfly)

Sony is promising one PS3 game, two minis and one PSone game each month. Which is around $15-25 value every month, assuming you have interest in the monthly selections. It appears Sony will not be offering a choice of titles here.

The “full game trial” sees you download an entire game (the first few are all quite small, thankfully) and play for an hour before deciding whether or not to purchase it. Think of it as a full-featured but time-limited demo.
Sony is also promising “early access” to beta tests and demos, an unsavoury practice we’ve been experiencing for some time now on Xbox Live where Gold members occasionally get a headstart on demos. Hopefully this won’t turn into basically charging PSN users for game demos.

And, yeah, you get a couple of themes and avatars.

For the first month there’s an introductory offer to download the full version of LittleBigPlanet. You will be able to keep this once your subscription expires.

Perhaps the most important information is this: All content games other than the LBP introductory offer, however, are only accessible while your subscription is valid. Let it expire and you won’t be able to play those downloadable games or use that theme or avatar.

Keep paying your $69.95 per year and you’ll be able to keep playing your “free” games. Stop paying for your “free” games and you won’t be able to play them.
Hmm.

Personally, I’m not convinced. I already own LittleBigPlanet and the couple of downloadable games that interest me in the first two months of offers. And I don’t care for the DLC. There’s nothing here that’s of value to me.
That’s the problem when you’re not charging people for a complete and consistent service.

Xbox Live is the same every month. Gold members know what they’re paying for: a superior online gaming and social community. When Xbox Live changes, it changes for everyone. And it retains its value from month to month.

PlayStation Plus is different every month. As I said, there’s no value in it for me over the first two months. Maybe in September I’ll want all the downloadable games and that 90-day subscription will seem like a good deal. Or maybe September won’t have anything of interest either.

When I pay for Xbox Live today, I can rely on it being just as good in 12 months’ time. I can’t rely on PlayStation Plus being worth my while from month to month, let alone for 12 months. I’m essentially speculating that Sony will deliver over $70 worth of content I want to play over that time. I’d rather know what I’m paying for.

Sorry, Sony, but no thank you.
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Although I feel Sony should have given us details sooner, I appreciate how they are taking their time to make sure this doesn't happen again. And wow, I didn't think I would be right about the free PS+ trial yet there was the news.

Now I just wish they would let us log in to at least give us the chance to change our passwords, credit card info. and what not. Once that happens, I think people will really start calming down. It would also be nice if we can log in to their online services like their message board and the Gamer Advisory Panel.
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']I beg to differ. You keep everything IF you keep a subscription going with PS+. I've listed just a few examples below, but every site detailing PS+ mentioned that you only keep the free games IF you stay subscribed. So in a month once the free month is up you'll lose all the content you're getting from Sony. No deal.

From last year(multiple sources) when PS+ launched:

1up.com: http://www.1up.com/news/sony-details-playstation-incentives



Kotaku AU: http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/06/why-im-not-subscribing-to-playstation-plus/
[/QUOTE]

If PSN+ still works this same way when the network comes back and everyone gets their free month then that sucks. That makes this such an empty gesture. I wonder if they set it up that way to prevent people that gameshare from taking advantage? That way you can't have one person go PSN+ and several others reap the benefits.
 
[quote name='Chitown021']If PSN+ still works this same way when the network comes back and everyone gets their free month then that sucks. That makes this such an empty gesture. I wonder if they set it up that way to prevent people that gameshare from taking advantage? That way you can't have one person go PSN+ and several others reap the benefits.[/QUOTE]

It's accurate...free games require an active PS+ subscription to use. Avatars/themes are free to use no matter if you're subscribed or not. Anything you buy at their discounted rate is similarly not tied to having an active description.

There's also going to be other free content that they didn't discuss because it'll be region dependent.
 
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