PSN has returned. What freebie games are you getting?

[quote name='Chickenmumbo']Sorry but it would be harder to find info on me using Google or Google hack than using the PSN database. Are you stupid or do you just act that way? Duh ! Thats why they call it a database. I have a very common name, literally millions of hits on my name. PM me my address if you can back up what you say.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, with your high intellect you can call people stupid. I have no motivation to to find out your information. However I am smart enough to know whether or not you have a common name, if it is on the Internet there are millions of people who could get access to it. Besides, you are talking about someone targeting you specifically, what the conversation is on is a random occurrence. Now, I am sure in your mind they hacked the PSN to get your data. I will give you a hint, one is a number by itself and the other is an intersection of two probabilities.

Basic math for you, what are the better odds of happening, someone hacking
the PSN and picking your name out of the millions of registered users or
having people on an open network with little restrictions find out your data?

Again, do it right...heck, substitue XBL in for what it is worth. I will spell it out for you, regardless of your name, location, etc...the chance of someone hacking XYZ companies data and gleaning information about you alone is far less likely than someone on the Internet itself randomly finding out data on you. On the Internet they have infinite time to do this.

Targeted attacks on an individual are a completely different matter.
 
[quote name='Gothic Walrus']This seems relevant...

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I thought of Gawker's ridiculous security issues as soon as this thing hit and was out in the open. It could only be made worse if someone found out Sony was using password as their password.
 
[quote name='jmbreci']Yeah, with your high intellect you can call people stupid. I have no motivation to to find out your information. However I am smart enough to know whether or not you have a common name, if it is on the Internet there are millions of people who could get access to it. Besides, you are talking about someone targeting you specifically, what the conversation is on is a random occurrence. Now, I am sure in your mind they hacked the PSN to get your data. I will give you a hint, one is a number by itself and the other is an intersection of two probabilities.

Basic math for you, what are the better odds of happening, someone hacking
the PSN and picking your name out of the millions of registered users or
having people on an open network with little restrictions find out your data?

Again, do it right...heck, substitue XBL in for what it is worth. I will spell it out for you, regardless of your name, location, etc...the chance of someone hacking XYZ companies data and gleaning information about you alone is far less likely than someone on the Internet itself randomly finding out data on you. On the Internet they have infinite time to do this.

Targeted attacks on an individual are a completely different matter.[/QUOTE]

I just shot chickenmumbo a PM with the information I found on him on google and other sites. I think it's close enough for him to realize it's very easy to find out information on someone without any effort nowadays.
 
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So is there any confirmation if old passwords and emails were still on Sony's servers? I have changed my PSN password and email a couple times in the past year.
 
[quote name='jman619']I bet Sony is scared to put psn back up since the passwords got stolen? Seriously, I just thought of that and that's prob the main reason its still down. Makes me wonder when it will ever go back up. Also I remember reading it said certain services will be back up within a week which doesn't mean everything. I hope the online play is the first thing to come back. I don't buy much from the store anyway I wouldn't mind if it was down for months. Just give me my online fix. :)[/QUOTE]


if they know whose info was taken id guess they would send you an email to let you change it before psn is up i mean id hope so that way those who were comproomised can have some level of security. or maybe they will do a clean sweep everyone gets new temp passwords.

main thing for everyone to do when you get on is change your dob since thats part of what they use when you want to change your password. and your security questions.

and yeah i cant wait till its back up uncharted 2 playing sp isnt good enough of a fix lol.
 
[quote name='mitch079']I just shot chickenmumbo a PM with the information I found on him on google and other sites. I think it's close enough for him to realize it's very easy to find out information on someone without any effort nowadays.[/QUOTE]

Indeed it isn't. Especially if you've been on the internet for a sufficiently long length of time and have used the same username throughout. If some of these "oh noes, Sony leaked my address/birthday" people just googled their CAG username, I bet they'd be amazed at how much of their private info is already out there. Googling myself I found that I crushed someone bad enough in Soul Calibur IV that they needed to go on Gamefaqs and whine about me.

Anywho, looks like Sony posted a new Q&A. http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/04/27/qa-1-for-playstation-network-and-qriocity-services/
 
My favorite part is this:

"Q: Has Sony identified the party or parties responsible for the PlayStation Network hack and subsequent theft of personal information?
A: We are currently conducting a thorough investigation of the situation and are working closely with a recognized technology security firm and law enforcement in order to find those responsible for this criminal act no matter where in the world they might be located."

In other words, no. hahahaha
 
[quote name='Salamando3000']Indeed it isn't. Especially if you've been on the internet for a sufficiently long length of time and have used the same username throughout. If some of these "oh noes, Sony leaked my address/birthday" people just googled their CAG username, I bet they'd be amazed at how much of their private info is already out there. Googling myself I found that I crushed someone bad enough in Soul Calibur IV that they needed to go on Gamefaqs and whine about me.

Anywho, looks like Sony posted a new Q&A. http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/04/27/qa-1-for-playstation-network-and-qriocity-services/[/QUOTE]


You didn't link the thread that I cared about.

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/act...s.php?page=0&pid=940048&topic_id=m-1-44945464
 
[quote name='Salamando3000']And see how easy it was to find that thread?
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Sure it was, I mean, Google only came back with three pages for you. You haven't been around enough.
 
[quote name='Salamando3000']And see how easy it was to find that thread?

Seriously though, I had a good laugh when I found that. Haven't played that game in years.[/QUOTE]

I so wanted to reply to that thread "OMG He Killed Kenny!"
 
I really want this to come up so I can download Castlevania: SOTN to my PSP. It would be so easy to use a ROM, but I would really prefer to give the developer the money they deserve.

What are your opinions? Would it be moral to play the game on a ROM now and purchase it when the PSN store goes back up? Keep in mind I do have this game in my PS1 collection. Hmm...I'll probably just wait.
 
[quote name='Indignate']Sure it was, I mean, Google only came back with three pages for you. You haven't been around enough.[/QUOTE]

I've been around the internet since late 90's. I just tend to get really fickle with my usernames. All the ID's I used before 2003 have since been retired. I also tend to employ different usernames based off how easily I want that post to be tracked....
 
Ok here we go I bought my first ps3 back in 2008 AND I NEVER BOUGHT ANYTHING WITH A credit card through them NOTHING but when I set up the New account I kind of remember I was prompted to add a Credit Card which I may have typed in but then exited , can that be captured ?

Its just been so long and since I cant access the Ps3 login I cant remember the info screens ?
Thanks for any help and since I pay alot of monthly bills by my only card it would be a hassle changing cards but better safe then sorry .:hot:
 
[quote name='Trendy2']The Hulu Plus thing is the worst part for me, I don't have cable/sat so I use Hulu to watch most stuff lately like getting caught up on House MD, The Office, etc.
Picture quality is fantastic on the PS3, I don't know how they do it. I don't feel like watching on my laptop, I pay for Hulu Plus to watch tv on my big screen, I wish they had a client for the 360 already.

edit: To be fair, Hulu Customer Service was fantastic - I politely inquired about a credit and within 30 minutes they issued me a credit for a week and emailed me that they're nearly done on their 360 app and that it will be out soon.[/QUOTE]

They sent me an e-mail early this morning with a link to click a 1 week credit without asking. So check your e-mails.
 
[quote name='dark-star']If I leave my car running and unlocked on a city street and it gets stolen, I have nobody to blame but myself. There are criminals out there, don't ya know...SONY DAMN WELL SHOULD HAVE KNOWN, and secured their systems to a greater degree. Barring proof otherwise, it seems Sony was storing credit card numbers and passwords in plain text. That is what I would consider criminal negligence, and if you're going to put the crackers in jail, then those responsible at Sony for allowing them (relatively) easy access to this information should join them.[/QUOTE]

Well, we don't know Sony was storing anything in cleartext, but it's inexcusable for ANY company to let passwords leak out. There is never any reason to store a password directly, encrypted or not -- salting exists for just this reason. Sony failed Security 101, regardless of what any hacker did to take advantage of that.
 
Good thing I have a CC just for online shopping with low limit. I actually had to fight with my bank to keep the limit low on that card. Time to dump the card and apply for a new one.
 
[quote name='crystalklear64']I used a debit card. Wat do?[/QUOTE]

Close the checking account associated with that card and make a new checking account.
 
[quote name='laaj']Close the checking account associated with that card and make a new checking account.[/QUOTE]
Hokay. I'm not really concerned about since theres like 10$ in there and due to stupid regulations I can't transfer money from savings to checking anymore online anyway and I have no overdraft thing, it just won't go through and I don't get charged anything. Its good to know though. Thanks.
 
[quote name='laaj']Close the checking account associated with that card and make a new checking account.[/QUOTE]

I don't think that's necessary. I canceled the card and requested a new one.
 
[quote name='jh6269']No shit. Ars is so freaking anti-Sony it's not funny. I wish they'd fire Ben Kuchera and get someone who isn't so freaking biased.[/QUOTE]
Anyone who has an opinion other than 'Sony can do no wrong' is 'biased', is that what you're saying?:whistle2:#
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']Why is it that when gamers talk about different consoles, anyone badmouthing the console one person owns is automatically 'biased'?[/QUOTE]

Because the one badmouthing is probably right.
 
Go read the posts on Ars, it's story after story how horrible Sony is for this and that. It's freaking stupid.
 
[quote name='jh6269']No shit. Ars is so freaking anti-Sony it's not funny. I wish they'd fire Ben Kuchera and get someone who isn't so freaking biased.[/QUOTE]

If these charges were really happening last weekend, it wouldn't take a genius to put two and two together and make people aware something was up.

PSN is hacked, unauthorized charges on my cc, hmmm hmmm hmmmm wait........nope, nothing.
 
[quote name='mitch079']If these charges were really happening last weekend, it wouldn't take a genius to put two and two together and make people aware something was up.

PSN is hacked, unauthorized charges on my cc, hmmm hmmm hmmmm wait........nope, nothing.[/QUOTE]

If you actually believe the people sending in the "reports" are actually telling the truth. But then again, there's no way for anyone to know.

Anyway, here's more info:

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/04/27/qa-1-for-playstation-network-and-qriocity-services/

Q: Was my personal data encrypted?
A: All of the data was protected, and access was restricted both physically and through the perimeter and security of the network. The entire credit card table was encrypted and we have no evidence that credit card data was taken. The personal data table, which is a separate data set, was not encrypted, but was, of course, behind a very sophisticated security system that was breached in a malicious attack.
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[quote name='jh6269']If you actually believe the people sending in the "reports" are actually telling the truth. But then again, there's no way for anyone to know.

Anyway, here's more info:

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/04/27/qa-1-for-playstation-network-and-qriocity-services/[/QUOTE]

Funny how you didn't include the next part:

Q: Was my credit card data taken?
A: While all credit card information stored in our systems is encrypted and there is no evidence at this time that credit card data was taken, we cannot rule out the possibility. If you have provided your credit card data through PlayStation Network or Qriocity, out of an abundance of caution we are advising you that your credit card number (excluding security code) and expiration date may have been obtained. Keep in mind, however that your credit card security code (sometimes called a CVC or CSC number) has not been obtained because we never requested it from anyone who has joined the PlayStation Network or Qriocity, and is therefore not stored anywhere in our system.

So basically they don't know anything. Unless you enjoy talking with your bank for hours and days to fix things, just take 30 mins to open a new account.
 
[quote name='laaj']Funny how you didn't include the next part:

Q: Was my credit card data taken?
A: While all credit card information stored in our systems is encrypted and there is no evidence at this time that credit card data was taken, we cannot rule out the possibility. If you have provided your credit card data through PlayStation Network or Qriocity, out of an abundance of caution we are advising you that your credit card number (excluding security code) and expiration date may have been obtained. Keep in mind, however that your credit card security code (sometimes called a CVC or CSC number) has not been obtained because we never requested it from anyone who has joined the PlayStation Network or Qriocity, and is therefore not stored anywhere in our system.

So basically they don't know anything. Unless you enjoy talking with your bank for hours and days to fix things, just take 30 mins to open a new account.[/QUOTE]
Maybe 30mins for you but people who tie their credit/debit card to .... Mortgage payments will go through a much bigger hassle than if they cancel said card.
 
Changed all my passwords connected to my email address and cancelled my credit card and had a new one reissued and it will be here Friday just in case even though im 99.9999 % sure I never used it on PSN.
Better safe than sorry but a question should I also start a new email address as its 10 years old and also contains my last name .
thanks for any thoughts :bouncy:
 
[quote name='bjstucker']Maybe 30mins for you but people who tie their credit/debit card to .... Mortgage payments will go through a much bigger hassle than if they cancel said card.[/QUOTE]


Yeah, I don't know why people and trying to brush this off as not being a nuisance... for a lot of people, it's really, really fucking annoying.
 
[quote name='thunder_gamer']Yeah, just read that and was wonder, why is personal information not good enough to qualify for encryption?:censored:[/QUOTE]

There's different classifications of personal information. That's all I can imagine. I know that my company doesn't encrypt data that's not SSNs, credit card #, etc. Name, address, etc. are usually not encrypted.
 
I'm thoroughly enjoying the PR that this is getting...All of the comic mentions as well.

I don't know about you guys...But investigating chickenmumbo's identity is quite fun!
 
[quote name='laaj']Funny how you didn't include the next part:

Q: Was my credit card data taken?
A: While all credit card information stored in our systems is encrypted and there is no evidence at this time that credit card data was taken, we cannot rule out the possibility. If you have provided your credit card data through PlayStation Network or Qriocity, out of an abundance of caution we are advising you that your credit card number (excluding security code) and expiration date may have been obtained. Keep in mind, however that your credit card security code (sometimes called a CVC or CSC number) has not been obtained because we never requested it from anyone who has joined the PlayStation Network or Qriocity, and is therefore not stored anywhere in our system.

So basically they don't know anything. Unless you enjoy talking with your bank for hours and days to fix things, just take 30 mins to open a new account.[/QUOTE]

What do you mean? It says right there that it's encrypted and the 3-digit code is not in their system. They don't have super human clairvoyance to know what happened.

I called my CC company and reported my card stolen; it took me 5 minutes and was all done via an automated system. You don't need to open a new account, you report it lost or stolen and they send you out some new cards with different numbers. Debit cards are probably a bigger deal, but still not that big of a hassle to get new ones.
 
[quote name='jh6269']What do you mean? It says right there that it's encrypted and the 3-digit code is not in their system. They don't have super human clairvoyance to know what happened.

I called my CC company and reported my card stolen; it took me 5 minutes and was all done via an automated system. You don't need to open a new account, you report it lost or stolen and they send you out some new cards with different numbers. Debit cards are probably a bigger deal, but still not that big of a hassle to get new ones.[/QUOTE]

I don't know about other banks but with mine getting a new debit card requires a click of the mouse and waiting for the new one to come in.
 
[quote name='bjstucker']
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The Tommy Tutone song 867-5309 popped in my head when I saw the "It only does" part.
 
[quote name='cliqueatnightvandal']I don't know about other banks but with mine getting a new debit card requires a click of the mouse and waiting for the new one to come in.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I do realize some folks have to use cash, so a missing debit card is a big PITA for them. But anyway, the irrational outrage is just getting so freaking old. :roll:

I've had this happen to me 2 other times, my employer lost a laptop with all my info, SSN included. I also got my stuff stolen out of my truck a while back, etc. I've had a company credit card get stolen from the mail and someone went on a shopping spree with it (before I ever received it or activated it).

So this to me is practically a walk in the park.
 
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