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The n64 zeldas always made me feel like I needed a guide. It never felt clear what I was supposed to be doing so I'd wander looking for my next goal and end up chasing chickens or something until I totally forget where I am.
There are definitely side objectives in Majora's Mask that require guides, and a couple small ones in Ocarina as well. But I don't recall needing a guide in the main storyline of Ocarina.

 
The n64 zeldas always made me feel like I needed a guide. It never felt clear what I was supposed to be doing so I'd wander looking for my next goal and end up chasing chickens or something until I totally forget where I am.
I always found it fun to use guides for Zelda games in general, not just the N64 ones. Come to think of it, I think I've gotten more out of RPGs when I used guides while playing them.

 
You clean the two guide posts. Be careful because they are thin. I used a slightly damp paper towel. They only looked slightly grungy, but it clearly made a difference. They also say to blow compressed air into the holes that those posts go into in the bumper itself, but I didn't have a can of compressed air. Maybe it would be worth getting one in your case.

Also you don't need to take the controller apart. You just pry up the bumper and it will pop up, then you pull it the rest of the way off. See the video.
Thanks. I took the thing apart in like Jan 2014 and it was clean as a whistle. It was easy for me to open up but a waste of time there was no white residue like others saw. I got a free replacement DS4 from Amazon (they didn't want the original one back) and a few months later it did the same thing. Perhaps just getting a much newer controller would be better for me. Supposedly (who knows if it is true) the newer ones aren't as bad for this. Also one of my controllers has a slightly torn rub analog stick cover thing. I bought a Kontrol Freaks cover which 'fixed' that.

 
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I don't understand how using a guide can be fun, but whatever makes you happy. One of my kids bought a copy of Super Mario 3D World and we're playing together and he knows where everything is because he already played the level in question. So I say to him that I'm looking forward to when we get to a part he hasn't played yet so we can discover things together and he tells me that he watched a Let's Play and already knows where everything is. It makes him happy to play a game like that, but for me that saps much of the fun out of it.

 
My coworker has a son and a daughter who I knew liked playing Minecraft on the PS4 that their dad bought. I mentioned the Lego sale to her in case her kids might like those games since she had asked for suggestions before. I mentioned it again today just to remind her the sale was almost over.

She told me she basically never saw her son this weekend. He was apparently glued to the Lego Marvel game. The one time she saw him he was on the computer. When she went to see what he was doing on the computer, he was looking up youtube videos because he was stuck in the game.

You could tell she was a fan of gaming, as she has told me before, because her response to his addiction to the game was, "At least he is learning how to solve problems when he gets stuck."
I've had legos on the brain big time lately. I skimmed this and thought you were talking about the sale on lego minecraft sets at Toys R Us. Actually it looks like a bunch of star wars sets are on sale too. And there's a $5 off $25 coupon. Looks like I'm going to be buying more stuff.

Also, I got the latest lego catalog in the mail the other day and that sweet giant shield helicarrier has the ability to add on a battery pack and motor so that the rotors spin on their own.

 
Oh good, thought I might have missed something i'd have wanted.
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Thanks. I took the thing apart in like Jan 2014 and it was clean as a whistle. It was easy for me to open up but a waste of time there was no white residue like others saw. I get a free replacement DS4 from Amazon (they didn't want the original one back) and a few months later it did the same thing. Perhaps just getting a much newer controller would be better for me. Supposedly (who knows if it is true) the newer ones aren't as bad for this. Also one of my controllers has a slightly torn rub analog stick cover thing. I bought a Kontrol Freaks cover which 'fixed' that.
Well, like I said, I didn't see much but I cleaned it anyway and it worked. I think the problem *is* the white residue. I think when they manufactured them they got some of that in there and it works it's way such that it starts causing a problem. After you clean it people seem to say it doesn't recur.

 
I don't understand how using a guide can be fun, but whatever makes you happy. One of my kids bought a copy of Super Mario 3D World and we're playing together and he knows where everything is because he already played the level in question. So I say to him that I'm looking forward to when we get to a part he hasn't played yet so we can discover things together and he tells me that he watched a Let's Play and already knows where everything is. It makes him happy to play a game like that, but for me that saps much of the fun out of it.
I know I loved not watching much of anything regarding SM3DW before I played through it. Maybe you should distract him with something else so he'll forget that Let's Play.

 
haha, sensible chuckle. And that dog has a little pointed hat! Little early to be shooting for gif of the week vig, isn't it?
 
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Vig, let me know when you see it on sale at Best Buy.  I might actually bite as I know Konami does great stuff in those and the behind the scenes stuff is great!

Don't have much BB credit now, but has anyone picked up a preorder and then returned it to apply GC's after the fact?

I hate that BB doesn't allow crediting GC's to orders after the fact like Amazon...

 
Well, like I said, I didn't see much but I cleaned it anyway and it worked. I think the problem *is* the white residue. I think when they manufactured them they got some of that in there and it works it's way such that it starts causing a problem. After you clean it people seem to say it doesn't recur.
I will give it a shot for sure on the one controller that has the torn analog stick cover rubber. Maybe see if I can find a can of compressed air I can borrow too.

 
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Next week the ps4 bundle will come with a year of plus as I understand it. I'd use that to cover the gap between the tiv and the cost of the new one. And, being gs credit, a lot of the tax is nuked since I'm in a state where I don't have to pay tax when using gs credit.
Do you know what games if any it is supposed to come with?

 
And for the record, I made decent pretty good progress in Fez on my own, but went to the guide for some of the more obscure bits with the made-up language symbol alphabet.  Thought the puzzles there were brilliant how they all worked together and used sound and QR and vibration and all the everything.  Man I love that game.

Whereas La-Mulana is reminding the most of the original NES Metroid.  While you have a map (that you have to find yourself) it's not terribly helpful until you find a very well hidden upgrade for it.  The in game tablets and NPC talk in vagueness and usually aren't talking about the area you are in.  So the guide I'm using is all like "Go right to B-1, climb down ladder and place this thing here, now go down a screen to B-2 (but don't open the chest here), then go left to C-2 and open the secret you unlocked from the thing you placed in B1."  I at least found a "non-spoiler" guide that just has instructions like that so I don't have to read someone blather on and on and on.

But yeah, navigating is way more complicated than Fez.  A lot of it is very clever with how it all ties together, but with around 12 worlds that I've found so far (and a bunch more I haven't found), trying to find your way through to each one and to find the maps and to find the save point in each one seems impossible without some kind of help.  Especially when you can't access maps of worlds you're not in to see how they connect.  At least there is fast travel to each one (once you find the fast travel spot).

That said, the platforming and art style and other game play is fun and enjoyable.

In conclusion, if the original Metroid frustrated you, this probably will more-so.

 
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Thanks. Probably a better deal for my nephew if I did the trade and bought the Destiny, TLOU bundle. Probably better for me to do it next week and get a year of PS+. Not sure I could get to GS today anyway.
As I pointed out to Pharm, that Destiny + TLoU bundle might be online-only because there isn't a link on the product page to check store availability for that bundle.

 
No mechs are still fucking great but what I noticed with (high level) randoms is that usually save the mechs for the extraction and tend to walk a lot with the sprint skill.

Sorry I missed out on last night, I was over at a friends and played some diablo with her.
A girl!? You played games with a girl!? That doesnt seem possible.

We got the shield but it didnt seem that great yet, we may need to level it up. Did you get that yet?

 
I am too damn cheap to buy guides. Plus I hate reading.
gamefaqs, ign, etc Loads of free guides on the new fangled thing we have called the Internets.

Just making sure you old folks have heard of it?

edit: fuck you pharm, you ninja son of a bitch.

 
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Speaking of masturbation, when I was in my late teens/early 20s there was a bar downtown that thankfully served minors and I had nothing but time on my hands. My friends and I would go there 4 nights a week to sometimes try to pick up chicks from the KU med intern program and it was an awesome time.

At some point we devised a theory referred to as the brilliance period where you're essentially a genius after you jerk off (presumably because for a few brief moments you're not clouded with thoughts of sex). You can suddenly come up with all of these great ideas, math becomes easy, etc.

So, we started telling all these college med student girls about our theory, but we weren't sure if it only affected men or if it was an equal opportunity event. We ended up convincing at least a couple of these girls to guinea pig for us (seriously, they apparently were going to take an abbreviated ACT practice test after taking care of themselves) but the police ended up laying the smackdown on the bar and we couldn't get back in after we sent them on their important mission for science.

#AimlessStoriesFromJeffsYouth
 
gamefaqs, ign, etc Loads of free guides on the new fangled thing we have called the Internets.

Just making sure you old folks have heard of it?

edit: fuck you pharm, you ninja son of a bitch.
I also go to Half Price Books as they sometimes have guides on clearance for a buck or two.

 
Using a guide to get around a tough spot is one thing. but needing to reference a guide every other minute to figure out where to go is awful.

Wow, you just dated yourself again. You know there is something called the internet now?
I thought he was talking about paper guides. I know some of you guys buy them.

 
Speaking of masturbation, when I was in my late teens/early 20s there was a bar downtown that thankfully served minors and I had nothing but time on my hands. My friends and I would go there 4 nights a week to sometimes try to pick up chicks from the KU med intern program and it was an awesome time.

At some point we devised a theory referred to as the brilliance period where you're essentially a genius after you jerk off (presumably because for a few brief moments you're not clouded with thoughts of sex). You can suddenly come up with all of these great ideas, math becomes easy, etc.

So, we started telling all these college med student girls about our theory, but we weren't sure if it only affected men or if it was an equal opportunity event. We ended up convincing at least a couple of these girls to guinea pig for us (seriously, they apparently were going to take an abbreviated ACT practice test after taking care of themselves) but the police ended up laying the smackdown on the bar and we couldn't get back in after we sent them on their important mission for science.

#AimlessStoriesFromJeffsYouth
That sounds like the Anti-Costanza where George became smarter when he abstained.

 
It is funny you guys are giving Jimbo shit for his view on paperback book guides and him being old.  On Friday when I was at my friend's house, his daughter (20 year old) had the full Prima guide for the new Zelda game she was playing.  I asked her why she got that and didn't just look up stuff online.  She liked having the book because it was easier than going back and forth to a webpage and she could more easily take it with her to use between classes and stuff.

 
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Who knew Kansas was so fucked up? I thought it was America's heartland!  Nothing weird or strange is supposed to happen there!

 
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I think it's safe to say Suge Knight is headed to jail for a long time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXYiDCzW4kw

 
I preordered the Type-0 HD CE guide from Amazon over the weekend because it looks great and will only have a 1-print run. I also already have the Witcher 3 CE guide preordered because it's being written by David Hodgson, one of the best guide writers today (he wrote the Fallout 3, Skyrim, and Watch Dogs guides), and it also looks cool.

#noshame

 
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It is funny you guys are giving Jimbo shit for his view on paperback book guides and him being old. On Friday when I was at my friend's house, his daughter (20 year old) had the full Prima guide for the new Zelda game she was playing. I asked her why she got that and didn't just look up stuff online. She liked having the book because it was easier than going back and forth to a webpage and she could more easily take it with her to use between classes and stuff.
I actually just use online guides either on my phone or on a laptop. Guess these broke fuck 'ers don't have those.

Do any of these ancient books and paper guides have video?

 
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