PSNOT 2.0 - I kind of want to subscribe to IndieBox.

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jkam said:
So a Nintendo direct tomorrow? Wow do you think they really say "Guess what!?" That 3DS you bought over the holidays is now obsolete, buy our new one? Lolz. Hopefully they announce a new 3DS Metroid and Starfox and Zelda and Castlevania and 3D Mario and....oh wait it's 2015, we'll get nintendogs v7.
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Thermopyle said:
That's not too bad. It's the constant switching requirement that gets more on my nerves. Switch character, switch costume, switch back to another character, etc.. Though if I were playing MP that wouldn't be as big an issue, I suppose.
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Later games allowed you to switch between all the level characters with the shoulder buttons, so you wouldn't have to open the character select screen every damn time. Made it much nicer. LEGO Marvel did that very well. I don't think there were any costumes that did stuff differently from the regular character one in that game, besides Iron Man.
 
BTW just to clarify since I realize that my earlier post wasn't specific enough: The need to replay Lego maps is fine, I get that from a collection standpoint. The part that annoyed me is that you have free range in almost every map as far as which costume you're in (if it's unlocked), but they just randomly decided for some maps to not allow it. So you've got Batman and there's something you need to go into investigative mode to collect, but for some obscure reason you're in the Joker costume and costume switching is locked on that map. Wtf?

I mean...sure, during the story it makes sense to restrict characters in the map to whoever is in that part of the story. But the costume locking thing is just nonsense. 

 
Zimm108 said:
Later games allowed you to switch between all the level characters with the shoulder buttons, so you wouldn't have to open the character select screen every damn time. Made it much nicer. LEGO Marvel did that very well. I don't think there were any costumes that did stuff differently from the regular character one in that game, besides Iron Man.
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Oh, Lego Batman 3 you constantly have to switch costumes in. Batman has like 10 costumes and they're all necessary; there's a sonar costume for breaking glass walls, a costume for shooting missiles, a costume for seeing hidden things (investigative mode), etc.. Robin has a full set of costumes, so does Lex Luthor, etc., and as you progress through the game you constantly have to switch between them. If it were just switching characters it wouldn't be a big deal, but when you have 4-5 characters in a map and the game makes you constantly switch between them and then also switch between their costumes, it gets to be tedious.

 
Thermopyle said:
BTW just to clarify since I realize that my earlier post wasn't specific enough: The need to replay Lego maps is fine, I get that from a collection standpoint. The part that annoyed me is that you have free range in almost every map as far as which costume you're in (if it's unlocked), but they just randomly decided for some maps to not allow it. So you've got Batman and there's something you need to go into investigative mode to collect, but for some obscure reason you're in the Joker costume and costume switching is locked on that map. Wtf?

I mean...sure, during the story it makes sense to restrict characters in the map to whoever is in that part of the story. But the costume locking thing is just nonsense.
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I do not guess I understand your point here. Story mode = locked characters, free play = all characters you have purchased are available. That is just how they all work. It seems like you are saying locking them in story mode is OK, but then you say it is annoying.

 
GatorBeerGeek said:
I do not guess I understand your point here. Story mode = locked characters, free play = all characters you have purchased are available. That is just how they all work. It seems like you are saying locking them in story mode is OK, but then you say it is annoying.
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I'm not sure how to clarify it further. Nothing in the post you quoted was complaining about locked characters.

 
I WANT THIS!!! DAMN U TO HELL LEGO!!

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WE NEED AN ARROW GAME! MADE BY ROCK STEADY!

 
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GatorBeerGeek said:
I thought you had done it in the past. Or do you mean private from even you?
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Don't care if I can see them or not, just don't want everyone else to see the results after they submit their vote. But doesn't look like it's possible. I don't think I've ever done it before, don't see any mention of it in the help files, and even the 2012 Cheapy Awards results are publicly viewable now that we're in 3.0. So I'm guessing it's not possible.

 
tylerh1701 said:
Don't care if I can see them or not, just don't want everyone else to see the results after they submit their vote. But doesn't look like it's possible. I don't think I've ever done it before, don't see any mention of it in the help files, and even the 2012 Cheapy Awards results are publicly viewable now that we're in 3.0. So I'm guessing it's not possible.
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Hold out hope for the MEGA Update!

 
tylerh1701 said:
Don't care if I can see them or not, just don't want everyone else to see the results after they submit their vote. But doesn't look like it's possible. I don't think I've ever done it before, don't see any mention of it in the help files, and even the 2012 Cheapy Awards results are publicly viewable now that we're in 3.0. So I'm guessing it's not possible.
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Wasn't the one about salary private? I do not remember being able to see those results. Was that on 2.0 or something?

EDIT: Oh, nevermind, you mean dont want to see the voting results as voting is going on. I get what you mean now. I need to get more sleep and play less GTA. My brain is not functioning.

 
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tylerh1701 said:
Don't care if I can see them or not, just don't want everyone else to see the results after they submit their vote. But doesn't look like it's possible. I don't think I've ever done it before, don't see any mention of it in the help files, and even the 2012 Cheapy Awards results are publicly viewable now that we're in 3.0. So I'm guessing it's not possible.
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Might not be the best way to do it, but have you thought of trying another site that does polls that can do it? Just put a link to it in the op and have people go there to do the voting and then post the results?

 
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I love how Cheapy calls his programmer a super programmer. Super programmer of what exactly? How has this refresh bug gone on so fuck ing long? I realize it's probably only as good as the bulletin board software but damn,  I'd have fired this guy a long time ago. 

 
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K the nominations have been counted and the first PSNOT Awards poll is up! 

The results are viewable which isn't usually how these things work.  Kilik's suggestion of an external site hosting the poll would work, if people would prefer that.  

 
Also, the PS3 and Vita games I kinda combined to make sure we'd have 10 different candidates between the 2 consoles.  Obviously a lot of these games have Ps3/PS4/Vita crossover.

 
Thermopyle said:
I'm not sure how to clarify it further. Nothing in the post you quoted was complaining about locked characters.
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So are you just talking about having to use the different costumes during free play to get collectibles, and sometimes you don't actually have access to that costume because it hasn't showed up in the level you're in? If so, usually there is at least one other character that can do the same thing as the costume you want.

 
Zimm108 said:
So are you just talking about having to use the different costumes during free play to get collectibles, and sometimes you don't actually have access to that costume because it hasn't showed up in the level you're in? If so, usually there is at least one other character that can do the same thing as the costume you want.
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I think he is talking about the game mechanics.

In story mode each level you have to swap costumes to do specific tasks to advance in the level. Im playing batman 2 right now and you ahve to swap robin and batman to different outfits depending on whats going on in the level. Like robin has a metal suit and can walk up walls that are specific for him to do that on. Batman has this power suit that shoots bombs and you have to blow up certain things with that suit on.

Have to change both at least a few times each level.

 
I did like Arrow s1 quite a bit. The only character I didn't really enjoy was Lauren. I'm not sure if it's the doomed romance angle (those are always shitty) or something else about her, but yeah...no appeal there. The rest of the characters were all pretty likable and the story and tone of the series is tons better than The Flash's.

Also Felicity is fantastic. What a great character.

BTW, whoever said I wouldn't like Arrow because it's got a ton of flashbacks...it really doesn't have what I'd consider to be flashbacks. It's a story set in two different times. Most of the island scenes don't even relate to stuff that's happening in the current timeline. Flashbacks are when, for example, a character sees something that reminds them of something else, then you see the scene they're reminded of. The past scene is given relevance by something specific taking place in the current time. Arrow hasn't (so far) been doing that outside of the very beginning where the curare was introduced.

 
kilik64 said:
I think he is talking about the game mechanics.

In story mode each level you have to swap costumes to do specific tasks to advance in the level. Im playing batman 2 right now and you ahve to swap robin and batman to different outfits depending on whats going on in the level. Like robin has a metal suit and can walk up walls that are specific for him to do that on. Batman has this power suit that shoots bombs and you have to blow up certain things with that suit on.

Have to change both at least a few times each level.
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Yeah I know all about that costume junk in Batman 2 (platted it). Sounded like he was talking about free play levels. I can see that as a kinda valid complaint there, but not in regular levels where the costumes are put right where they are needed for level progression.

 
Thermopyle said:
I did like Arrow s1 quite a bit. The only character I didn't really enjoy was Lauren. I'm not sure if it's the doomed romance angle (those are always shitty) or something else about her, but yeah...no appeal there. The rest of the characters were all pretty likable and the story and tone of the series is tons better than The Flash's.

Also Felicity is fantastic. What a great character.

BTW, whoever said I wouldn't like Arrow because it's got a ton of flashbacks...it really doesn't have what I'd consider to be flashbacks. It's a story set in two different times. Most of the island scenes don't even relate to stuff that's happening in the current timeline. Flashbacks are when, for example, a character sees something that reminds them of something else, then you see the scene they're reminded of. The past scene is given relevance by something specific taking place in the current time. Arrow hasn't (so far) been doing that outside of the very beginning where the curare was introduced.
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The island scenes are semi related to the episode usually, like something he is facing currently has ties to something from the past.

 
Thermopyle said:
I did like Arrow s1 quite a bit. The only character I didn't really enjoy was Lauren. I'm not sure if it's the doomed romance angle (those are always shitty) or something else about her, but yeah...no appeal there. The rest of the characters were all pretty likable and the story and tone of the series is tons better than The Flash's.

Also Felicity is fantastic. What a great character.

BTW, whoever said I wouldn't like Arrow because it's got a ton of flashbacks...it really doesn't have what I'd consider to be flashbacks. It's a story set in two different times. Most of the island scenes don't even relate to stuff that's happening in the current timeline. Flashbacks are when, for example, a character sees something that reminds them of something else, then you see the scene they're reminded of. The past scene is given relevance by something specific taking place in the current time. Arrow hasn't (so far) been doing that outside of the very beginning where the curare was introduced.
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flash·back
ˈflaSHˌbak/
noun



  1. a scene in a movie, novel, etc., set in a time earlier than the main story.




 
kilik64 said:
I think he is talking about the game mechanics.

In story mode each level you have to swap costumes to do specific tasks to advance in the level. Im playing batman 2 right now and you ahve to swap robin and batman to different outfits depending on whats going on in the level. Like robin has a metal suit and can walk up walls that are specific for him to do that on. Batman has this power suit that shoots bombs and you have to blow up certain things with that suit on.

Have to change both at least a few times each level.
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This is one of the things I was talking about as a point of tedium, yes, but the specific thing I was complaining about here is that on some of the story maps you are restricted from changing costumes. No explanation for why is provided. Batman is just stuck in Joker Batman costume, using one map as an example, and none of the other characters have a bomb function. It artificially forces you go to back and replay that map in free mode even though normally you'd be able to clear the map on the first run.

 
Thermopyle said:
This is one of the things I was talking about as a point of tedium, yes, but the specific thing I was complaining about here is that on some of the story maps you are restricted from changing costumes. No explanation for why is provided. Batman is just stuck in Joker Batman costume, using one map as an example, and none of the other characters have a bomb function. It artificially forces you go to back and replay that map in free mode even though normally you'd be able to clear the map on the first run.
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Yea, thats a lego game for you. All like that.

 
tylerh1701 said:
Don't care if I can see them or not, just don't want everyone else to see the results after they submit their vote. But doesn't look like it's possible. I don't think I've ever done it before, don't see any mention of it in the help files, and even the 2012 Cheapy Awards results are publicly viewable now that we're in 3.0. So I'm guessing it's not possible.
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When starting a new thread, there is a checkbox to make votes public next to the poll title. If you hover over it, it says it cannot be changed once a vote has been made. Do you see that option when editing? Or is it there and doesn't work?

 
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Thermopyle said:
The need to replay Lego maps is fine, I get that from a collection standpoint.

I mean...sure, during the story it makes sense to restrict characters in the map to whoever is in that part of the story.
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Thermopyle said:
This is one of the things I was talking about as a point of tedium, yes, but the specific thing I was complaining about here is that on some of the story maps you are restricted from changing costumes. No explanation for why is provided. Batman is just stuck in Joker Batman costume, using one map as an example, and none of the other characters have a bomb function. It artificially forces you go to back and replay that map in free mode even though normally you'd be able to clear the map on the first run.
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Nice use of contradiction.

Just think of each costume as a different character. Of course you're not going to have access to every single one on every single level during the first regular play. That's what Lego games are. You replay the level again with new characters/costumes when you unlock the right ones to get the job done. Like kilik & I said, that's every Lego game.

 
mitch079 said:
When starting a new thread, there is a checkbox to make votes public next to the poll title. If you hover over it, it says it cannot be changed once a vote has been made. Do you see that option when editing? Or is it there and doesn't work?
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That's the same thing Gator was initially confused about. Making votes private just means you can't click in the poll and see who voted for what. The actual poll results will still show up regardless.

 
So Fat Princess is a mobile game? What is the PS4 Fat Princess hack and slash called (nevermind Adventures)? Interesting note though you can get the PS3 game for free by playing the mobile game, this was taking from google play:

Rescue the Princess! Fat Princess: Piece of Cake takes the comic medieval battle royale to the next level with a brand-new strategic match-3 game for mobile platforms. Charge into battle with 4 different character classes! Make matches to smash through the blue army! Collect gems to upgrade your troops! Feed cake to the princess to unleash her devastating slam attack! Trigger massive combos and save the kingdom! 

Bonus PS3™ Game!
Escort your beloved princess through Level 15 and earn access to a download of Fat Princess for your PS3 system at no additional cost. You must complete Level 15 in the Fat Princess: Piece of Cake mobile game and have an active Facebook account to receive the voucher code. A valid Sony Entertainment Network account is required to redeem the voucher code and download the game to your PS3 system


Arghhhh couldn't read Tyler's link, look like it's coming to the console as well.

 
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Zimm108 said:
Nice use of contradiction.

Just think of each costume as a different character. Of course you're not going to have access to every single one on every single level during the first regular play. That's what Lego games are. You replay the level again with new characters/costumes when you unlock the right ones to get the job done. Like kilik & I said, that's every Lego game.
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This is why you never ever bother or give a shit about collectibles in story mode. Just blitz the shit out of the level. You will ALWAYS have to come back for at least some subset of them. Here is a guide for all Lego games

1) Blitz through story mode

2) Read trophy guide to see which characters are mandatory for getting all the different shit

3) Unlock those characters and the 2x brick since it is almost always easily available

4) Play free play with 2x brick active to get true whatever the fuck it is called for that series and the other collectibles

5) Do other random shit to get plat

 
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kilik64 said:
The island scenes are semi related to the episode usually, like something he is facing currently has ties to something from the past.
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It varies. Again, I'm only through S1 at this point so that might change, but quite a bit of the island content isn't directly related to anything happening in the current episode.

mpaullin said:
flash·back
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  1. a scene in a movie, novel, etc., set in a time earlier than the main story.



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Yes, I'm aware of the definition of flashback. Notice that the definition says "scene" though. Singular. You could term a single scene a flashback but to say the show has lots of flashbacks doesn't really capture correctly the narrative approach. Arrow follows a dual timeline structure--the story on the island could easily have been told on its own in a season or whatever prior to Ollie ever even getting off the island. Flashbacks generally aren't so pervasive and sequential that this is the case, which is why I don't really consider Arrow's approach to be "a series of flashbacks."

I wouldn't consider Forrest Gump to be a flashback movie, as another example, because that's just not the storytelling approach they used there even though the majority of the movie fits that definition.

 
I just entered a contest for travel and tickets to the NFC Championship.  I'm sure I'll win so I can personally deliver a cheesehead to Nightmare after Lacy goddamn man's himself all over the 12th man.

 
Zimm108 said:
Just think of each costume as a different character. Of course you're not going to have access to every single one on every single level during the first regular play. That's what Lego games are. You replay the level again with new characters/costumes when you unlock the right ones to get the job done. Like kilik & I said, that's every Lego game.
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That's the way the game works, yes. Clearly I understand that. You don't seem to understand my point about the game lacking a reason for the restriction, though. The game doesn't provide any rationale behind restricting unlocked costumes on specific maps. That's specifically what I'm complaining about, and nothing anybody has said has provided an explanation for why the game does that aside from to artificially force you to replay the map.

It's the exact same complaint I have about games with trophies that require you to play through a game or game component multiple time but don't actually add anything to the experience. It's just arbitrarily forcing people to spend more time in the game than they otherwise would.

So yes...character restrictions make sense, it's a story and different people are in different places. Costume restriction...what, Batman just forgot to bring his detective costume? "Shit...I left that in my other belt!" :shame:

 
Thermopyle said:
That's the way the game works, yes. Clearly I understand that. You don't seem to understand my point about the game lacking a reason for the restriction, though. The game doesn't provide any rationale behind restricting unlocked costumes on specific maps. That's specifically what I'm complaining about, and nothing anybody has said has provided an explanation for why the game does that aside from to artificially force you to replay the map.

It's the exact same complaint I have about games with trophies that require you to play through a game or game component multiple time but don't actually add anything to the experience. It's just arbitrarily forcing people to spend more time in the game than they otherwise would.

So yes...character restrictions make sense, it's a story and different people are in different places. Costume restriction...what, Batman just forgot to bring his detective costume? "Shit...I left that in my other belt!" :shame:
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I understand perfectly what you're saying. The costume restrictions in the main story levels (before free play) are so you only have the specific costume you need for that particular part of the level. It's called level design. Like how Mario will give you a leaf right before you approach a giant platform filled with coins in the sky. And it should be obvious that the costumes are not carried along, but found in the wild, which gets you into them. It's not a permanent upgrade. Never has been. And if you have to come back via free play anyway to get other collectables, why are you bitching so much about the exact same restrictions on costumes.

 
I know playstation Home is shitty, but just in case you wanted the trophies before they go offline, it is getting close to cut off point of march 31st to try and get that sign in 50 different days trophy and 10 camera pics on different days. yup. also can't mess with the calendar for those trophies.

 I just can't get myself to bite on the pinball deal. I know 18 tables for $15 is great and trophies for all of them and crossbuy with vita, but I already have zen/marvel/starwars pinball and just don't see myself playing it more than once or twice. I just spent $30 on bf4 premium last week, so I think I should just not do this sale... Hopefully maybe for $10 sometime in the future... ill save my psn$ for the huge sale this week...

 
Zimm108 said:
I understand perfectly what you're saying. The costume restrictions in the main story levels (before free play) are so you only have the specific costume you need for that particular part of the level. It's called level design. Like how Mario will give you a leaf right before you approach a giant platform filled with coins in the sky. And it should be obvious that the costumes are not carried along, but found in the wild, which gets you into them. It's not a permanent upgrade. Never has been. And if you have to come back via free play anyway to get other collectables, why are you bitching so much about the exact same restrictions on costumes.
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A number of the maps you don't have to return to with other characters, though. It seems like the ones with the costume restrictions are usually ones where the collectibles in the maps are all obtainable by the characters the story mode gives you. In other words, if there are 5 gold bricks for a map and all of them can be obtained by Batman and Robin, they might arbitrarily prevent you from using the Detective Suit in order to make you come back to that map. It sticks out pretty bad because you see the prompt for using Detective mode, go to use it, then find out you can't.

 
If I never actually played any of the poll nominations (shocking, I know), am I not allowed to vote? I technically played FFX way back when on PS2, but otherwise I just own FFX & X-2 on Vita and TWAU on PS4, unopened.

 
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