PSP Slim Redesign

[quote name='Rocko']Also, if a guy has 1 day shipping and gets it the 11th, I'd say it is released and will be in stores on the 10th[/quote]

I don't know about that. I think all that means is that the product is being dropped shipped by the manufacturer, or the direct distribution center of the manufacturer. So Rei's package could be getting shipped out at the same time as the retail batch and thus everyone may actually be getting it on the 11th or later.
 
[quote name='gunm']I don't know about that. I think all that means is that the product is being dropped shipped by the manufacturer, or the direct distribution center of the manufacturer. So Rei's package could be getting shipped out at the same time as the retail batch and thus everyone may actually be getting it on the 11th or later.[/QUOTE]
Was just going to say the same thing. Places like Amazon and EBgames.com have the stuff shipped straight from the distribution centers. So it might not be in stores until the 11th.
 
They'll know at least the night before. We get our shipping info before the packages. It just depends on the mood of the manager when you ask. Lots of the time they may not feel like checking...

Anyway, I'm sure an email will be sent to stores very shortly outlining the release. I'll check when I go in Wednesday.
 
Yeah, both my local GameCrazy & Gamestop have no idea when the slims are coming in, let alone the launch date. As a result, no pre-orders will be taken and will be sold first come, first serve. Best suggestion was to call periodically for any updates. I'm a sad panda.
 
[quote name='FatBoyInside']Yeah, both my local GameCrazy & Gamestop have no idea when the slims are coming in, let alone the launch date. As a result, no pre-orders will be taken and will be sold first come, first serve. Best suggestion was to call periodically for any updates. I'm a sad panda.[/QUOTE]

Interesting. My GC had them in their system and it allowed me to preorder the StarWars bundle the week after E3. I wonder if they changed their policy.
 
Damn mang, I am impatient about this. Maybe I will just order a ceramic JPN unit instead of dealing with the star wars bundle and all the associated bullshit that will come with it (e.g. buying a new battery cover to get rid of the Darth one)
 
Damn, I want that silver one. Problem is I already have Daxter, more than enough memory (I have memory sticks I haven't even opened that I got on sale), and I don't like Family Guy. So I'd basically be paying an extra $30 for a color. So tempting though...

Edit: Though I'm thinking I could trade that stuff in and recoup most of the losses.
 
I called Gamestop last night for kicks, asking when this releases.

One said he had no idea. Fair enough.

The other said it had a release date in Europe and wasn't slated for the US yet.

*headdesk*

I guess I'll call on the 10th and ask if they have 'em in. If they don't, well, I'll call back the next day.
 
yea after seein the silver, me wants it too :(
I got in on the 4gb pro duo dealio at fry's that was up a couple weeks back so I believe I'm set for all the storage I need. I love family guy and all but I don't think I'll be watching it much, and same with Daxter I don't think I'll be playing it much. I've instead got Monster Hunter Freedom 2 preordered from overstock which should hopefully ship soon...
 
I'm lost, so theres no concrete date for yet? I'm waiting for the white one, but I'd still like to know. Anyone know if the Oct 9/10th release date for the Star Wars pack is true?
 
[quote name='CouRageouS']Anyone know if the Oct 9/10th release date for the Star Wars pack is true?[/quote] Well that's also when the game is supposed to release so it makes sense.
 
[quote name='PenguinMaster']http://psp.ign.com/articles/816/816852p1.html

Sounds like crappy AV support to me. It requires a component 480p capable TV/Monitor but it pillarboxes and letterboxes the screen to be 480x272. Therefore it will only be using about 42% of a 640x480 screen. People were saying HD output, 272p is far from HD.[/QUOTE]

People who were saying "HD" didn't know what they were talking about. They thought component meant HD for some reason.

I'd obviously prefer it to use the full screen, but I can see why it can't. It would have added to the cost of the system, for a feature not everyone would use (and it's the first portable in a decade that I can think of that directly connects to a TV, so it's not like we can complain much). Come to think of it, the Gameboy Player for the Gamecube didn't do full screen either, if I'm remembering right.
 
[quote name='Wolfpup']People who were saying "HD" didn't know what they were talking about. They thought component meant HD for some reason.

I'd obviously prefer it to use the full screen, but I can see why it can't. It would have added to the cost of the system, for a feature not everyone would use (and it's the first portable in a decade that I can think of that directly connects to a TV, so it's not like we can complain much). Come to think of it, the Gameboy Player for the Gamecube didn't do full screen either, if I'm remembering right.[/quote]

You're right. It has some pretty big borders and whatnot. Which is a shame. I don't expect it to be widescreen but I'm paranoid about using my GBP on my new TV (it's a plamsa) because I don't want a "Press Z Button" image burnt into the screen.

Anyhow, hopefully Amazon will have a deal on the component cables once they've been out for awhile. They don't sound like they'll be worth the whole 30 bucks at this point.
 
[quote name='PenguinMaster']http://psp.ign.com/articles/816/816852p1.html

Sounds like crappy AV support to me. It requires a component 480p capable TV/Monitor but it pillarboxes and letterboxes the screen to be 480x272. Therefore it will only be using about 42% of a 640x480 screen. People were saying HD output, 272p is far from HD.[/QUOTE]
This makes it unusable for some TVs. Too bad, I was looking forward to the TV output.
 
[quote name='Wolfpup']Come to think of it, the Gameboy Player for the Gamecube didn't do full screen either, if I'm remembering right.[/QUOTE]

No, the Gameboy Player didn't do full screen. But that was more understandable being that it was an odd aspect ratio and extremely low resolution picture at 240x160. It still streched the 240x160 to a much higher resolution and it didn't require component cables nor 480p (but supported both).
 
PSPFanboy just received the new PSP Slim and was gracious enough to field test it in order to answer some of your most demanding questions. Here's the summary:

1. Volume output identical with old model.
2. Ships with Firmware 3.60 which adds USB charge, new background colors, and display settings for TV output.
3. Unfortunately, PSP 3.60 version still does not support 640x480 videos.
4. Loading from UMD still produces some scratch noises like older model.
5. Files from mem stick still loads around the same time on XMB.
6. LCD screen on PSP Slim appears to be identical; ghosting can still be seen.
7. Web browser hasn't been improved on the new PSP.
8. Still can't view slideshow and have music at the same time.
9. Wi-fi range still nearly identical.
10. Buttons have a better feel with slightly more resistance, a good thing.
11. When viewing games on a TV, it will be framed. Roughly 70% of the TV screen will be viewable (a 61" HDTV will have a 42" picture with a black border). However, the upscaling of the game screen is top-notch...nearly PS2 quality. UMD videos are good...but not as good as upscaled DVDs, though.

Many more questions will be answered in a few days in their PART 2 Coverage. Cheers!
 
Grr, the fact that it's so close to launch and I can't guarantee myself a copy at Gamestop angers me! So looking forward to this- I have TWELVE games!
 
[quote name='Wolfpup']People who were saying "HD" didn't know what they were talking about. They thought component meant HD for some reason.

I'd obviously prefer it to use the full screen, but I can see why it can't. It would have added to the cost of the system, for a feature not everyone would use (and it's the first portable in a decade that I can think of that directly connects to a TV, so it's not like we can complain much). Come to think of it, the Gameboy Player for the Gamecube didn't do full screen either, if I'm remembering right.[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately, the Kotaku and IGN previews confirmed my worst fear: The games require progressive scan. This means that even if an SDTV (480i) has a component input, it still won't play games, since it's still an interlaced picture. You'll need at least an EDTV (480p) or HDTV for progressive scan.

I guess the easiest way to check if your TV can display progressive scan is to look at the component input on the TV or in the manual. If it's labeled Y-Cb-Cr or RGB, then it is likely that it is a normal component input, and the TV cannot use progressive scan. If it's labeled Y-Pb-Pr, then the TV can use progressive scan.

For those with SDTVs, I guess there are only a few options available:
A) Wait for Sony hackers to find some way of running the games in interlaced mode.
B) Hope that someone will release a VGA box. Even CRT monitors are capable of Progressive scan.

Also, the PSP2k is not the first recent portable to connect directly to a TV. That title would likely belong to the GamePark GP2X, a system from Korean company that has a very active homebrew community. I believe that using an A/V cable, you are able to stream MP3s, movies, and even the games and emulators to the TV screen.
 
[quote name='Cao Cao']
B) Hope that someone will release a VGA box. Even CRT monitors are capable of Progressive scan.
[/QUOTE]

It's highly unlikely that there will be a PSP specific VGA box or cable released. But if you really want to use TV-Out that much you could buy a Component-to-VGA Transcoder (which go for $50+).
 
[quote name='PenguinMaster']No, the Gameboy Player didn't do full screen. But that was more understandable being that it was an odd aspect ratio and extremely low resolution picture at 240x160. It still streched the 240x160 to a much higher resolution and it didn't require component cables nor 480p (but supported both).[/QUOTE]

That was connected to a whole seperate system though, and just using it's connections. And the Playstation Portable's games are low resolution too in relation to the HDTV you're probably playing them on now.

To do scaling or interlaced stuff in games, Sony would have had to add some kind of separate scaler or processor to handle just that function, which would add to the cost of the system for a feature many wouldn't even use.

They can most likely do those things in movies, etc. because they don't require the PSP's full power to do, and can use it's existing CPUs to process that, which isn't possible in games.
 
[quote name='Wolfpup']That was connected to a whole seperate system though, and just using it's connections. And the Playstation Portable's games are low resolution too in relation to the HDTV you're probably playing them on now.

To do scaling or interlaced stuff in games, Sony would have had to add some kind of separate scaler or processor to handle just that function, which would add to the cost of the system for a feature many wouldn't even use.
[/QUOTE]

Any thing that's 480p will run fullscreen (except the PSP) so the HDTVs highest resolution doesn't really matter. GBA games were streched from their native 240x160 resolution to at least 480x320 (more than 4 times the size).

Didn't they just make a new system largely for TV-Out capabilites? Why else are people buying these new systems?

http://gear.ign.com/articles/666/666034p1.html
This PSP2TV can modify an original PSP to output fullscreen and interlaced, if they can do it, so can Sony.
 
[quote name='Halo05']Using GS credit Rocko? Because as far as I know, Amazon is still doing preorders.[/quote]
Yep, sure am. I traded in a bunch of shit during promos so I could get this for free. :lol:
 
Part 2 Summary of the Q&A Coverage on the PSP Slim by PSPFanboy & Joystiq:

1. Most games don't noticeably load faster (possible reason is that those games haven't been optimized for the increased RAM in the new PSP slim, but expect future titles to benefit)
2. Video out cables must be purchased separately ($20 - $30).
3. As of right now, there's only 3 versions coming out in the US : Core Package in black ($170), Daxter Bundle in silver ($200), Star Wars Bundle in custom white ($200).
4. One of the best improvement is how much lighter it weighs.
5. Slightly thinner than a DS Lite, but still the same width as the old phat PSP model.
6. Older battery will work with PSP Slim, but it will require the purchase of a new battery cover for the protrusion.
7. Is it worth the purchase if you already have the old PSP? Heck YEAH!!!! Only if you want to be the koolest dude on the block! (j/k)

That's it for now...stay tuned for more Q&A sessions up til the official launch in early Sept. BTW, here's the summary from Part 1 Coverage:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3298585&postcount=519
 
Play Asia reports that the Slims arrived in HK stores on the 30th, a good two weeks before the Japan and US launches. They have some comparison photos here, as well as some of their own thoughts about the redesign and what it might mean to consumers.

Wonder why HK got these already? Ah well, I'm already committed to Amazon for the Daxter Entertainment pack. Can't wait to sync that little guy up with my PS3.
 
Gyah, I really hope the release date for the black core isn't the 20th. :( I noticed BestBuy doesn't have it listed, but it does have the silver Daxter bundle, so I wonder. But Amazon lists the black one as release on the 10th. I am so confused. =\
 
I was at a couple GS and EBs and a lot of people were asking about "psps" but the lady said they were sold out. I guess they were talking about the old one, but I thought it was out because a lot of people were asking for "new psps". I guess I was wrong by reading this thread.
 
Looks like the Daxter bundle is going to be listed in next week's Target Ad. I wonder if that means most stores will release them mid week but Target will "hold" them for the ad kinda like they've done with the Wii in past weeks?
 
Has any system launch in retail stores ever included a bonus gift on release day? I slightly recall that during the launch of the phatty PSP @ BB...they passed out coupon booklets. I might get in line there. (I also remember an XBOX 360 bonus disc w/ coupons ... but they ran out fast, then conveniently re-appeared after the coupon expiration date.)
 
I don't see any external ports that the slim has that the fat PSP doesn't. If the strange port next to the headphone jack is what is used for the TV output, then why wouldn't the PSP fat be able to do it (since it has the same port)? If it can, screw the slim, I'm just buyin' component cables.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I don't see any external ports that the slim has that the fat PSP doesn't. If the strange port next to the headphone jack is what is used for the TV output, then why wouldn't the PSP fat be able to do it (since it has the same port)? If it can, screw the slim, I'm just buyin' component cables.[/QUOTE]
I think it has something internally that it uses for TV out as well. The slim ships with firmware 3.60 that has all the options for TV out, and I believe the fat is not going to get that firmware.
 
[quote name='Rei no Otaku']I think it has something internally that it uses for TV out as well. The slim ships with firmware 3.60 that has all the options for TV out, and I believe the fat is going to get that firmware.[/QUOTE]

yeah and I'm pretty sure i read that your existing psp wired remote won't work on the new psp
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I don't see any external ports that the slim has that the fat PSP doesn't. If the strange port next to the headphone jack is what is used for the TV output, then why wouldn't the PSP fat be able to do it (since it has the same port)? If it can, screw the slim, I'm just buyin' component cables.[/quote]

Look at the difference between the number of pins between the fat and the slim inside that port. That's the reason why it won't work for the fat-the slim port has more pins.
 
[quote name='Rocko']Gamestop showing Daxter bundle as shipping today.

http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product_id=020281

Called my three stores, all said no date yet. Sigh.[/QUOTE]

Their description of the Daxter bundle is a bit odd. Headphones, component and normal AV cables are included instead of the Family Guy UMD and a 1GB memory stick?

I think I'd rather have the bundle Gamestop describes, assuming it's for real.
 
Looks like I will be selling off 2 of my 3 psp's to buy one of these (the tv connectability is what sold it for me, and I'll finally getting a ds lite)
 
Seems like that's got to be the wrong description. Sony didn't include two sets of cables in their "main" system, I don't think they'd do it for their portable system.

I can already tell my PSP games are going to be taunting me even more than they do now until the Star Wars bundle comes out. Stupid taunting games.
 
It's ironic that Amazon was among the first to offer US pre-order, but now it looks like they'll be among the last to actually ship. :p

Shit, GS and BB and more are all getting theirs out today? Ah well, the things I will put up with for no tax/free shipping...
 
It's true, the Ice Silver Daxter Bundle are available in stores now...so grab them if you can't wait. My local Walmart has rows of them. The Piano Black Core version will be out later in September. I live in the Midwest near Chicago...PM me if you want to know the particular WM.

daxter.jpg


Sadly it appears that the Family Guy UMD and Daxter Game come in truncated cardboard sleeves packaging with the NOT FOR RESALE imprint all over the covers. Drat! And double drat!! Same goes for the SW: Renegade Squadron Bundle in Oct.
 
Just bought one at Target, but I really shouldn't've. I think I'll keep it sealed and wait to see if GS gets it in tomorrow.
 
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