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Well I'm back from jail.. I watched all the ECW I missed and almost all of the TNA. CM Punk's debut was great, too bad he didn't come out to AFI. I like Big Show as champ, although ECW remains a bastardized version of it's former self.
 
[quote name='PhrostByte']Well I'm back from jail.. I watched all the ECW I missed and almost all of the TNA. CM Punk's debut was great, too bad he didn't come out to AFI. I like Big Show as champ, although ECW remains a bastardized version of it's former self.[/QUOTE]

what did you go to jail for and how long were you in???
 
I started reading Jesse Ventura's book and just finished the wrestling chapter. I just wish he could have stuck it to Hogan like he did to Vince.
 
:rofl: @ Stryker on ECW... just cut the guy loose already.

So speaking of boring wrestling, when will this stupid Edge and Cena feud end already? It's been going on for months it seems, it's boring, stale, I could care less at this point. Raw has quite a few contenders for the gold... Randy Orton, possibly Jeff Hardy (he seemed to get a huge push right out of the gate fighting Edge), hell I even thought Carlito / Trish would start feuding with Edge / Lita, but WWE seems to have dropped the Carlito / Trish angle as it wasn't mentioned at all on Monday.

I mean, cmon, give Cena the belt and have him feud with Orton already, and let Edge and Jeff Hardy have a feud... seeing them wrestle Monday reminded me of all the awesome tag matches they had against each other. Make some kind of feud between the two involving Lita, I don't know, it would be a good way to get Edge away from her.
 
[quote name='onetrackmind']what did you go to jail for and how long were you in???[/quote]
I had a 60 day sentence and did 39 days of it (working in the kitchen for $1/day cut off 5 days a month.. the rest of it was for good time and double bunking). Now I still have 3 years of supervised probation to do... BULLSHIT. Judge sent my ass to jail for violating my probation. Apparently the cops were watching my friend for a while and they saw me buy a gram of weed from him. So they locked both of us up. I went to court for the CDS: Marihuana charge and got $100 fine. The only problem is, the fact that I was found guilty of the possession charge violated my probation and that's what I got the 2 months BCDC/3 years probation for. I came into court prepared. I showed him a letter from my boss showing that I was working. I showed him an official copy of my college transcript showing that I made Dean's List with a 3.76 last semester, I showed letters from two counselors that I was seeing... but none of it really helped. The judge said I was too smart for this bullshit and that I needed to learn that there should be consequences to my actions...

In case you were wondering what I was on probation for... around 2 years ago I was getting acid sent to me by a friend from Amsterdam. The second time it happened the DEA intercepted the package coming to my house... (for some reason, they had no reasonable cause for suspicion) and raided my house. I was at work at the time... they came to my job and made me come back to my house. Upon arrival they asked me if I knew what the package was... Obviously I denied it... and I wasn't charged with any of the acid. However I was charged with all the other shit they found in my house. 1 count CDS: Marihuana. 2 counts Not Marihuana (a few Adderall pills and a straw with cocaine residue). and 2 counts Paraphanelia. I got everything dropped except the coke charge and that's what I was on probation for... I still don't know if the search was legal... oh well :\
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']I started reading Jesse Ventura's book and just finished the wrestling chapter. I just wish he could have stuck it to Hogan like he did to Vince.[/QUOTE]
I enjoyed that book. I still think he has a lot of good ideas in there, even if some of them wouldn't carry out like he's expecting (especially now that the book is several years old).
 
[quote name='Roufuss']:rofl: @ Stryker on ECW... just cut the guy loose already.

So speaking of boring wrestling, when will this stupid Edge and Cena feud end already? It's been going on for months it seems, it's boring, stale, I could care less at this point. Raw has quite a few contenders for the gold... Randy Orton, possibly Jeff Hardy (he seemed to get a huge push right out of the gate fighting Edge), hell I even thought Carlito / Trish would start feuding with Edge / Lita, but WWE seems to have dropped the Carlito / Trish angle as it wasn't mentioned at all on Monday.

I mean, cmon, give Cena the belt and have him feud with Orton already, and let Edge and Jeff Hardy have a feud... seeing them wrestle Monday reminded me of all the awesome tag matches they had against each other. Make some kind of feud between the two involving Lita, I don't know, it would be a good way to get Edge away from her.[/quote]

I am almost willing to bet that somehow the match at the next PPV becomes a 3 Way TLC Match. And somehow Hardy will win with the help of Lita, wheter intended or not.
 
[quote name='guyver2077']man whats the name of the program again used to capture the titantron videos from wwe.com?[/quote]

I used to use Net Transport myself.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']I enjoyed that book. I still think he has a lot of good ideas in there, even if some of them wouldn't carry out like he's expecting (especially now that the book is several years old).[/QUOTE]

I agree with you on his ideas. Some may not be practical but a lot make sense.

Picked up Have a Nice Day so I have something to read after finishing it and also nabbed ECW's most violent matches ( 12 dollars for both seemed like a pretty good deal IMO).
 
[quote name='craven_fiend']I am almost willing to bet that somehow the match at the next PPV becomes a 3 Way TLC Match. And somehow Hardy will win with the help of Lita, wheter intended or not.[/QUOTE]


Replace Hardy with Cena and I will agree with you. I don't know that they would give the belt to Jeff already. How bad would that suck for Matt though.
 
[quote name='niceguyshawne']Replace Hardy with Cena and I will agree with you. I don't know that they would give the belt to Jeff already. How bad would that suck for Matt though.[/quote]

Yeah, I'd much rather see Cena win it back and feud with Orton, than Hardy win it. I just see the WWE doing something stupid like that. Unless they hold off the inevitable feud until Jeff or Edge has the IC Title.
 
[quote name='PhrostByte']I had a 60 day sentence and did 39 days of it (working in the kitchen for $1/day cut off 5 days a month.. the rest of it was for good time and double bunking). Now I still have 3 years of supervised probation to do... BULLSHIT. Judge sent my ass to jail for violating my probation. Apparently the cops were watching my friend for a while and they saw me buy a gram of weed from him. So they locked both of us up. I went to court for the CDS: Marihuana charge and got $100 fine. The only problem is, the fact that I was found guilty of the possession charge violated my probation and that's what I got the 2 months BCDC/3 years probation for. I came into court prepared. I showed him a letter from my boss showing that I was working. I showed him an official copy of my college transcript showing that I made Dean's List with a 3.76 last semester, I showed letters from two counselors that I was seeing... but none of it really helped. The judge said I was too smart for this bullshit and that I needed to learn that there should be consequences to my actions...

In case you were wondering what I was on probation for... around 2 years ago I was getting acid sent to me by a friend from Amsterdam. The second time it happened the DEA intercepted the package coming to my house... (for some reason, they had no reasonable cause for suspicion) and raided my house. I was at work at the time... they came to my job and made me come back to my house. Upon arrival they asked me if I knew what the package was... Obviously I denied it... and I wasn't charged with any of the acid. However I was charged with all the other shit they found in my house. 1 count CDS: Marihuana. 2 counts Not Marihuana (a few Adderall pills and a straw with cocaine residue). and 2 counts Paraphanelia. I got everything dropped except the coke charge and that's what I was on probation for... I still don't know if the search was legal... oh well :\[/QUOTE]


does your state have the 3 strike law , if so next time your busted your going to be spending some major time in jail


prepared. I showed him a letter from my boss showing that I was working. I showed him an official copy of my college transcript showing that I made Dean's List with a 3.76 last semester


i dont see why they would help you. are you saying people could go out and break the law and then say .. "Im getting an A in college so you cant punish me"

best of luck to you and hopefully you dont do it again. ": )
 
[quote name='slidecage']does your state have the 3 strike law , if so next time your busted your going to be spending some major time in jail


prepared. I showed him a letter from my boss showing that I was working. I showed him an official copy of my college transcript showing that I made Dean's List with a 3.76 last semester


i dont see why they would help you. are you saying people could go out and break the law and then say .. "Im getting an A in college so you cant punish me"

best of luck to you and hopefully you dont do it again. ": )[/quote]

3 Strikes is only for felonies, more than a year in jail/prison.
 
[quote name='slidecage']does your state have the 3 strike law , if so next time your busted your going to be spending some major time in jail


prepared. I showed him a letter from my boss showing that I was working. I showed him an official copy of my college transcript showing that I made Dean's List with a 3.76 last semester


i dont see why they would help you. are you saying people could go out and break the law and then say .. "Im getting an A in college so you cant punish me"

best of luck to you and hopefully you dont do it again. ": )[/quote]

Well you would think that by being a productive member of society I'd make a better impression on the judge. It's not a ticket out by any means, but if you were the judge... who would you put in jail? Someone that is lower class and not really going anywhere in life, and may be prone to commit further crimes upon release, or someone of a higher class who is simply a recreational drug user?
 
[quote name='craven_fiend']I am almost willing to bet that somehow the match at the next PPV becomes a 3 Way TLC Match. And somehow Hardy will win with the help of Lita, wheter intended or not.[/QUOTE]

I see it as somehow Lita helps Hardy beat Edge, then Cena nails Hardy with the FU for the pin... it gets Edge out of the title picture for awhile because of Lita leaving him, and allows Cena to feud with someone like Orton breathing some new life back into things.

The problem with Cena is that if he's not going after the belt, what is he supposed to do?
 
[quote name='Roufuss']I see it as somehow Lita helps Hardy beat Edge, then Cena nails Hardy with the FU for the pin... it gets Edge out of the title picture for awhile because of Lita leaving him, and allows Cena to feud with someone like Orton breathing some new life back into things.

The problem with Cena is that if he's not going after the belt, what is he supposed to do?[/quote]

Yeah, thats what happens when you push guys too soon, you get them stuck in limbo. Cena, Orton, and Batista come to mind in that matter. Sure Orton and Batista to a lesser extent, but they got pushed to title guys, but when they don't have the title, they have nothing, other than Orton's legend killer gimmick, which was wasted on Sunday.

Slow development is key. Like with The Rock, HHH, and Stone Cold. Let them stew for a few years in the Euro/IC title range. Then when they are over with the crowd either way, bring them up to the Hogan's and the Taker's.
 
[quote name='craven_fiend']Yeah, thats what happens when you push guys too soon, you get them stuck in limbo. Cena, Orton, and Batista come to mind in that matter. Sure Orton and Batista to a lesser extent, but they got pushed to title guys, but when they don't have the title, they have nothing, other than Orton's legend killer gimmick, which was wasted on Sunday.

Slow development is key. Like with The Rock, HHH, and Stone Cold. Let them stew for a few years in the Euro/IC title range. Then when they are over with the crowd either way, bring them up to the Hogan's and the Taker's.[/QUOTE]

I agree with everyone but Orton. I think even though Orton was rushed, I think he was ready to handle it (from a character standpoint, maybe not a personal one). He reminds me a bit of Kurt Angle. Angle was pushed almost instantly, and had his first WWE championship in a year. Yet, he developed without the belt to be an entertaining person. I think Orton is the same way. It seems like, whoever he's fighting, it can be entertaining. I didn't see SS, but I'm mad that he lost to Hogan. What does that do? What does the win give Hogan? Hogan never losing at SS isn't nearly as hyped as Taker's Wrestlemania streak. I'd have liked to see Orton "kill" Hulkamania, then let Hogan come back in a few months to say it isn't dead.

Though, a nice Orton/Carlito feud could be good. This could be the best feud in awhile if it's done right (and if they get a female wrestlier to hang with Orton a bit, it could really help the woman's division too).

Cena, it's true, he really doesn't have a character anymore. He use to have his Vanilla Ice thing going (very entertaining), but I think he needs a character. Though, Cena has had a few really good feuds, I think he can make it without the belt.
 
[quote name='lordxixor101']
Though, a nice Orton/Carlito feud could be good. This could be the best feud in awhile if it's done right (and if they get a female wrestlier to hang with Orton a bit, it could really help the woman's division too).

Cena, it's true, he really doesn't have a character anymore. He use to have his Vanilla Ice thing going (very entertaining), but I think he needs a character. Though, Cena has had a few really good feuds, I think he can make it without the belt.[/QUOTE]

The way I see it with Cena is that he DOES have a decent character, he's always entertaining to watch as of late, but ever since I started watching wrestling again about a year ago Cena has always had the belt, or is fighting for the belt... I don't remember a feud he's done not involving WWE gold.

I think Cena taking a break, maybe feuding with someone else, then coming back for the title would do wonders. I'm starting to wonder if WWE forgot all about 1st contenders because Cena constantly gets a shot again and again and again and again. I hope if the rumors of a TLC title match between Edge and Cena hold true, that it is the end of their feud for awhile.
 
[quote name='lordxixor101']I agree with everyone but Orton. I think even though Orton was rushed, I think he was ready to handle it (from a character standpoint, maybe not a personal one). He reminds me a bit of Kurt Angle. Angle was pushed almost instantly, and had his first WWE championship in a year. Yet, he developed without the belt to be an entertaining person. I think Orton is the same way. It seems like, whoever he's fighting, it can be entertaining. I didn't see SS, but I'm mad that he lost to Hogan. What does that do? What does the win give Hogan? Hogan never losing at SS isn't nearly as hyped as Taker's Wrestlemania streak. I'd have liked to see Orton "kill" Hulkamania, then let Hogan come back in a few months to say it isn't dead.

Though, a nice Orton/Carlito feud could be good. This could be the best feud in awhile if it's done right (and if they get a female wrestlier to hang with Orton a bit, it could really help the woman's division too).

Cena, it's true, he really doesn't have a character anymore. He use to have his Vanilla Ice thing going (very entertaining), but I think he needs a character. Though, Cena has had a few really good feuds, I think he can make it without the belt.[/QUOTE]
I'd be willing to bet that originally the plan was for Hogan to lose. Then he had a problem with it and suddenly had a knee injury that would prevent him from wrestling. After they changed it and told him he didn't have to job to Orton his knee magically healed.
 
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I absolutely adore that picture of Flair.

EDIT: Guile, send me a PM with your address. My biased opinion favored your caption over the others. 'Twas close, in truth.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']
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I absolutely adore that picture of Flair.

EDIT: Guile, send me a PM with your address. My biased opinion favored your caption over the others. 'Twas close, in truth.[/quote]

Cool. PM sent!

:lol: Flair in mid-woo!
 
How about some news?

World Wrestling Entertainment announced this afternoon that 2006 Diva Search contestants Maryse Ouellet, Milena Roucka and Amy Zidian have all signed with the company and will be assigned to Ohio Valley Wrestling to train.
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So much for that Diva Search, it seems... that makes what, over half of the finalists being signed?
 
[quote name='PhrostByte']Yep, good show tonight so far wouldn't you say?[/QUOTE]

I got to agree with that. I love what they are doing with the tag team division and the new angle with Christian and Rhyno seems like it could lead to a really great fued between the two.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']Nice to see LAX get the belts, but the main event was pretty sloppy IMO. Why the hell were Styles and Daniels not in wrestling attire?[/quote]

Great question. Too busy smoking up with RVD to change?
 
Very enjoyable Impact once again. The main event felt a little too much of a clusterfuckfest but then again had there been no ad break in the middle of the match it probably wouldn't of felt so rushed. I really digged the Christian/Rhino in ring promo since it really helped further established Christian's new heel run while add a little more character to Rhino. Oh, and I really loved Abyss smashing his fist into the tacks. Painful but really effective to establish that he loves pain. :D

I am also glad that TNA really is pushing Bound For Glory several months ahead of time. The problem is that its almost like as if TNA might as well drop having the No Surrender PPV all together as the past two weeks have felt more like build up towards BFG than it has for NS. Just to prove my point...

- One of the main focal angles is building towards Jarrett vs Sting "Title Vs Career" at BFG.
- A promo aired for the redebut of Austin Aries under the name "Austin Starr" at BFG.
- Hardly any mentions of NS at all during either show. In fact we don't even have any matches announced/booked.

Next week according to the spoilers there is the Ultimate X match announced between LAX vs Styles/Daniels for the Tag Team titles..... so does this mean the winner will take on The Naturals at BFG? And with this even announced according to the spoilers the ending segment is Jarrett's contact signing for the BFG "Title vs Career" match.

Moving on I picked up the McMahon DVD. I've only watched the main feature so far which I felt was decent. It certainly felt like a good trip down memory lane seeing some of the better Vince McMahon moments from his life on here - especially the Austin vs McMahon fued (which to me is when his on screen character was the best). It was also nice to see that it wasn't a total ass kissing documentry that I was (undoubtably) expecting. Yeah there are a few points where it dragged on with the ass kissing ("He's a genius, he made the business what it is today, etc").

I will say that this DVD is worth picking up just for the documentry alone. There are a good amount of extras on the set including some deleted bits that were not used in the documentry itself and a number of Vince's better matches on Disc 2. Even with the few flaws I did enjoy watching it.

Oh and since we are near the 500 post mark I would say a Vince McMahon Wrestling Topic - especially with this DVD release - is my suggestion for the next Wrestling Topic.
 
[quote name='Demolition Man']
Oh and since we are near the 500 post mark I would say a Vince McMahon Wrestling Topic - especially with this DVD release - is my suggestion for the next Wrestling Topic.[/QUOTE]

Funny, I always pegged you as the anti-WWE guy on here.

As for the thread, have the Road Warriors had one yet?
 
[quote name='niceguyshawne']Funny, I always pegged you as the anti-WWE guy on here.[/QUOTE]

I've back off from being so much of the WWE basher compared to how I used to be. Yeah I still feel the product as a whole is in a bad shape. RAW is pretty boring to be honest as I'm sick of DX vs Corporation 2.0 along with the never ending Cena/Edge fued. Yeah you can insert Jeff Hardy into the Cena/Edge fued but how can inserting shit into a stale fued make it watchable is beyond me....

ECW has some signs of potential (ie: CM Punk) but as of right now if I didn't know better I would of thought I was watching Velocity 2.0 Featuring Former Members Of ECW Jobbing To The C-Rate End Of The WWE Roster And Big Show.

Smackdown is on and off in terms of watchability. Some weeks Smackdown can be simply great but then other weeks its simply a cluterfuckmess that isn't even worth downloading. I'm liking King Booker finally getting a long overdue title run. I really enjoy some of the folks I've seen on Smackdown as of lately too (Kennedy, Finlay, even yes Lesna... I mean Lashley). Out of the three WWE shows this is the only one I really even care about watching... kinda odd that I like the least liked brand eh?

And as much as I don't care for the WWE product Vince does deserve credit for making wrestling more popular amongst the mainstream. Yes he did kill the territory system in the 80s and while yes he won't publically acknowledge the exsistance of TNA..... oh, and that bomb known as the XFL.... he does deserve a topic no less.

*Just that funny ass walk of his alone is topic worthy lol*

Sorry for going a bit lengthy there folks.... but since I haven't really said much about my views on the current WWE product (as much as I know myke "loves" reading them lol).
 
Wrestling as a whole (TNA/WWE) has been very stale these past three months.

TNA - 2001 WCW.
RAW - Same WWE title feud for a year, no tag division (although it is slowly making progress), Lita as women's champion, IC title has no prestige, DX is boring and unfunny.
SD! - Michael Cole, King Booker (love Booker T as champ, but "King" Booker is really lame), most everyone on the show is boring.
ECW - Making progress, but still not worth watching for the most part.

I'm starting to lose interest again...
 
[quote name='2Fast']Wrestling as a whole (TNA/WWE) has been very stale these past three months.

TNA - 2001 WCW.
RAW - Same WWE title feud for a year, no tag division (although it is slowly making progress), Lita as women's champion, IC title has no prestige, DX is boring and unfunny.
SD! - Michael Cole, King Booker (love Booker T as champ, but "King" Booker is really lame), most everyone on the show is boring.
ECW - Making progress, but still not worth watching for the most part.

I'm starting to lose interest again...[/quote]

I agree and disagree. Your analysis of TNA and Raw are pretty much on the money. DX in particular is not funny, their humor seems so forced now, and you just can't recapture the whole attitude they had before because both Michaels and Hunter were living that lifestyle at the time.

SD & ECW I must disagree with your call on those though. SD really isn't that terrible, some of the new talent they have on the show provides some intrigue. It'd be hard to argue though, that SD has almost become a televised WWE developmental terriroty, I mean come on, Fit Finlay is the US champion Cripes 'O Friday.

Then ECW, oh boy, I think they're taking steps backwards. Sure you've got name wreslters like Big Show and Kurt Angle, but the recent rumor that more ECW guys are going to get the axe so more WWE talent like Matt Stryker can get on TV... :roll: that's just disturbing. ECW is dead, call it something else Vince or turn it over to Heyman so he can right the train before it crashes.

Next topic: La Parka's Wrestling Topic!
 
[quote name='2Fast']
TNA - 2001 WCW.
[/QUOTE]

Aside from Jarrett, Sting, and Steiner is anyone else readily identifiable as being part of WCW (not including Tenay since he is not a wrestler)? The only other person who might fit this profile would be Nash, but he is touch and go and has been big in both WCW and WWE.

TNA also is not plagued with the plethora of title changes, lame finishes, and downright horrible booking (it is not always great, but they do well for only an hour a week).


Personally I think the next topic should be about the Von Erich's.
 
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']I agree and disagree. Your analysis of TNA and Raw are pretty much on the money. DX in particular is not funny, their humor seems so forced now, and you just can't recapture the whole attitude they had before because both Michaels and Hunter were living that lifestyle at the time.

SD & ECW I must disagree with your call on those though. SD really isn't that terrible, some of the new talent they have on the show provides some intrigue. It'd be hard to argue though, that SD has almost become a televised WWE developmental terriroty, I mean come on, Fit Finlay is the US champion Cripes 'O Friday.[/quote]
I like SD and think it is a decent show, but some little things about it just bother me. I hate hate HATE UPN. The picture quality, camera angles, and everything on SD are horrible. I realize that some of this is because it's taped, but I feel like I'm watching WWF Shotgun Saturday Night on my old TV at one in the morning. JBL is the best part of Smackdown and while I hated Finlay in WCW, I must say that I've grown to enjoy him now.

The news about ECW is quite disturbing.

Next topic: La Parka's Wrestling Topic!
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Ole'! The Chairman of WCW! I'm going to celebrate by doing his dance (animated .gif someone....plz)!
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']Aside from Jarrett, Sting, and Steiner is anyone else readily identifiable as being part of WCW (not including Tenay since he is not a wrestler)? The only other person who might fit this profile would be Nash, but he is touch and go and has been big in both WCW and WWE.

TNA also is not plagued with the plethora of title changes, lame finishes, and downright horrible booking (it is not always great, but they do well for only an hour a week).[/quote]

They completely hog the title scene and will continue to do so in the foreseable future, wrestlers are tired of being held down and apparently are leaving (Brown, Killings = Radicalz 2006?), there is a stable featuring Konnan, there are tons of old WWF rejects that are past their prime, taking up space - smells like WCW '01 to me.

Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy TNA. But as of late, it's just been very, very poor. Also, Jeff Jarrett holding any sort of title besides the European Championship is reason for me not to watch anything. Jarrett has been sucking the teet of his higher-up friends for as long as I can remember and I see no discernable reason why he should be at the top of any promotion.
 
[quote name='2Fast']Wrestling as a whole (TNA/WWE) has been very stale these past three months.

TNA - 2001 WCW[/QUOTE]

Take WCW from 2000, eliminate all of the big-name wrestlers, keep around all of the young and talented guys and potential stars (small guys that Vince doesn't want), add in many useless WWE castoffs, have Vince Russo on-and-off as your head writer, put your world title on Jeff Jarrett, and you have...WCW from 2000. Wait, what was the question?
 
[quote name='2Fast']They completely hog the title scene and will continue to do so in the foreseable future, wrestlers are tired of being held down and apparently are leaving (Brown, Killings = Radicalz 2006?), there is a stable featuring Konnan, there are tons of old WWF rejects that are past their prime, taking up space - smells like WCW '01 to me.

Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy TNA. But as of late, it's just been very, very poor. Also, Jeff Jarrett holding any sort of title besides the European Championship is reason for me not to watch anything. Jarrett has been sucking the teet of his higher-up friends for as long as I can remember and I see no discernable reason why he should be at the top of any promotion.[/QUOTE]


I forgot about Konnan, but he has taken on more of a manager's role like Shane Douglas in the past few months. Since he left the 3 Live Kru he really has not seen all that much ring action and still cuts great promo's and has done an excellent job in helping to get LAX over. A lot of people have been saying it is the best fued TNA has going for it.

As far as Jarrett goes, it may not be popular opinion but I think Jarrett brings a hell of a lot to the table and is one of the most interesting people in pro wrestling. He cuts the best heel promos week in and week out and is compotent enough in the ring to justify his status as being on top of the company. With that said, do I really think that he should always have the belt? No I don't , but those are the breaks. HHH has been much more of a title hog since his status as top dog in WWE and he is no where near as good as Jarrett on the mic or in the ring IMO (he especially sucks as a heel since just like his matches he has not done anything new in 10 years).

On the topic of people getting held down in TNA, it is no where near as bad as WWE. There are so many great people on the WWE's roster that do not get a chance to shine because of a lame gimmick or restrictions that are placed on them that it is where hate towards people being held down should be directed. There is a prominent spot for tag teams and cruiserweights (both of which are non-existent in the WWE) and as far as the people who left go, they were not held back, Monty Brown was at the top of the card fighting for the title before he got injured and Ron Killings was just in a title match as well. If they really wanted to know about getting held down they should have talked to Christian about his days as a singles competitor in WWE and how as soon as he got over they fucked him.
 
The thing about Jarrett is that he doesn't sell "World title contender" to me. He's not big enough, he's not a good enough wrestler, his moves don't say to me "hey, I can hurt the big guys." I have to admit, his catchphrases are a guilty pleasure (Don't piss me off! Slap Nutz!) though.

Triple H hasn't held gold in more than a year and even he got to the main event on his own accord (unlike Jarrett). Also, there wasn't anyone else in WWE during the bulk of his title hogging. The Rock was gone, Austin was done, 'Taker was too old - Triple H was THE guy. TNA has tons of viable title contenders, but nothing is done with them.

For whatever reason, Christian always struck me as being lazy. Also, he suffers from the same faults as Jarrett that I listed above.

You're definitely right about guys being held down. Let's face it though, Brown and Killings were never going to go anywhere higher than they were - they weren't going to see gold anytime in the near future in TNA.

Honestly, right now I don't see many people being held down in WWE. Everyone has something to do on RAW, the most deserving person is holding gold right now on Smackdown (Booker T), RVD held gold recently, and it just seems to me like everyone has something to do. I can't think of anyone that deserves to be moved up.

Monty Brown was on the cusp of getting a title reign a while back, but then Christian came and ruined that (ironic). They put Ron Killings in title matches just to shut him up, otherwise there was nothing for him to do. However, I do fear that if they go to WWE, Monty Brown will be packaged as Faarooq 2006, and Ron Killings will be "K-Kwik" again.
 
See ya folks in a few hours. I'm off to my long awaited ROH show that I've been waiting 2.5 years for since the last time they were here.

The card for tonight's show....

[quote name='ROHWrestling.com']ROH World Title Match- 2 Out Of 3 Falls
Bryan Danielson defends against Nigel McGuinness

World Tag Team Title Match
Austin Aries & Roderick Strong defend against Samoa Joe & BJ Whitmer

Special Challenge Match
Christopher Daniels vs. Claudio Castagnoli

Rematch From "Reborn: Stage One"
Matt Sydal vs. Delirious

Tag Team Challenge Match
Jay & Mark Briscoe vs. Irish Airborne

Singles Action
Homicide vs. Jimmy Jacobs

Tag Team Grudge Match
Jimmy Rave & Sal Rinauro vs. Davey Richards & Colt Cabana[/quote]

If there are any other CAGers from the Twin Cities area at the show tonight just look for most likely the only person there wearing a Raven "Clockwork Orange House Of Fun" shirt in the front row. :D
 
WWE has RELEASED Kurt Angle!

I think it's a good thing IF it leads to Angle actually retiring from the ring. If it leads to him just leaving WWE and then doing a TNA, ROH, or stiff Japan style, then it's a very very bad thing. I have a feel they're releasing him so that if/when he dies prematurely, it won't be on their watch, and their hands will be legally clean of responsibility.
 
[quote name='JaytheGamefan']WWE has RELEASED Kurt Angle!

I think it's a good thing IF it leads to Angle actually retiring from the ring. If it leads to him just leaving WWE and then doing a TNA, ROH, or stiff Japan style, then it's a very very bad thing. I have a feel they're releasing him so that if/when he dies prematurely, it won't be on their watch, and their hands will be legally clean of responsibility.[/quote]

WHAT THE fuck?!

 
[quote name='JaytheGamefan']WWE has RELEASED Kurt Angle!

I think it's a good thing IF it leads to Angle actually retiring from the ring. If it leads to him just leaving WWE and then doing a TNA, ROH, or stiff Japan style, then it's a very very bad thing. I have a feel they're releasing him so that if/when he dies prematurely, it won't be on their watch, and their hands will be legally clean of responsibility.[/quote]
I'm stunned. It definitely has to be health and/or drug related. I'm betting he either tested positive for something or was caught with possession of some substance. I'm a little behind but this may be tied to why he was pulled out of the match last week.

Kurt's always struck me as someone who can be too intense and doesn't know when to let up. Here's hoping he gets healthy and, more importantly, gets his head on straight.
 
A wellness violation is what led to his last break, so it probably was painkiller-related. Meltzer has more on the story -
WWE fired Kurt Angle today. It is known Angle and his agent met with WWE officials this afternoon. More details should be forthcoming soon.
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