Reduced Price Game Guides: Thread XI

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First off, let me welcome you all to the new guide thread. Second, I'd like to ask you all to please keep conversations not pertaining to guide drops to a minimum to avoid cluttering the thread. It's not that I don't enjoy the chit chat, but that it may stop others from locating information on the newest drops.

That being said, let me thank Cheapy for creating this site, without which I would've spent probably 10 times what I HAVE spent on games and guides. Moreover, let me thank each and every one of my fellow CAGs for continuing to contribute to making this site a great place to find out about sales and clearances of the items we as gamers use most. Without a great community, NONE of this would be possible.


Now, with that out of the way(and before I get to rambling), let's get on to making this new thread.

Useful Information(and links):

Game Guide Trade Thread(KEEP ALL TRADE REQUESTS HERE OR IN PM'S):

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175548

PLEASE keep ALL trade requests in there or PM's. Thank you.

Reduced Price Guide Discussion Thread(KEEP ALL DISCUSSION NOT RELATED TO GUIDE DROPS HERE!!!):

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=169252

What is the purpose of this thread?

The purpose of this thread is to let our fellow CAGs know when a guide has dropped to a low price(it's NOT ALWAYS A PENNY), so they can go out and grab guides for themselves and for trading with other CAGs.

Anytime you have guide drops to report, post them here. Please specify at which store you found them and which guides you found and list them in alphabetical order. Thank you. Please, whenever possible, use RED font to make the drop info stand out. Thanks again.

What are penny guides?

Penny guides are guides which have been on the market for a while and the publisher(or store chain) decide that the remaining stock of these guides have little to no chance of selling, so they issue an order to pull them from the shelves and destroy them. At that time, they are also marked as .01 in their inventory system, except in the case of BBV, which marks them .01 only AFTER pulling them.

Most stores have an agreement with the publisher that states that if they destroy the remaining stock of those items, they will receive a credit for their value from the publisher. This is why many stores are usually annoyed when we CAGs come in and buy the guides AT the penny price, since otherwise they would've received a credit for those items.

According to an employee at a local BB, they also have a recycling program for the pennied stock, so as to not clutter landfill space with the guides. As to how true it is, I cannot confirm, but I would hope that the paper is at least recycled instead of just dumpstered.


Prior Reduced price game guide threads:

Guide Three:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/...ighlight=guide
Guide Four:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/....php?p=1496376
Guide Five:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/...ad.php?t=85976
Guide Six:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/...d.php?t=116918
Guide Seven:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/...d.php?t=131717
Guide Seven and a half:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/...d.php?t=142400
Guide Eight:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/...d.php?t=167157
Guide Nine:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/...d.php?t=187222
Guide Ten:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219547

Finally, below is a list of website links, each of which goes to their respective guide page. Whenever possible, I will update the links with better ones(if available).

Amazon
Barnes&Noble
BestBuy
Gamestop
Overstock
Strategyguides.net
ToysRUs

Thanks to floormat, Guinaevere and anyone else who has created and maintained the guide thread before, as well as to all of those who find out either advance information on drops or provide a list of which ones dropped when we do have a drop.

The post below this one contains a list going back at LEAST six months of the more current guide drops, which stores they occured at and which ones dropped. Note that sometimes(Oblivion guide, Quake Wars: Enemy Territory)there are multiple versions of a guide, be it that there are Prima versions, Brady versions and the occasional Nintendo and Doublejump guides.

Please specify WHICH version has dropped when mentioning possible guide drops. Thank you.

Common Guide Drop Related Questions(FAQ):

FAQ - If you are new (or a vet with a few questions) look here SECOND! (After reading the above!)

Q: What Are Penny Guides?
A: Penny guides are guides which have been on the market for a while and the publisher(or store chain) decide that the remaining stock of these guides have little to no chance of selling, so they issue an order to pull them from the shelves and destroy them. At that time, they are also marked as .01 in their inventory system, except in the case of BBV, which marks them .01 only AFTER pulling them.

Most stores have an agreement with the publisher that states that if they destroy the remaining stock of those items, they will receive a credit for their value from the publisher. This is why many stores are usually annoyed when we CAGs come in and buy the guides AT the penny price, since otherwise they would've received a full credit for those items.

According to an employee at a local BB, they also have a recycling program for the pennied stock, so as to not clutter landfill space with the guides. As to how true it is, I cannot confirm, but I would hope that the paper is at least recycled instead of just dumpstered.

Q: Do all guides from all stores drop at the same time?
A: No. While most chains have nationwide drops within their own store (as in every BB will have the same drops coast to coast), not every different chain drops at the same time (what drops at BB is NOT necessarily dropped at GS). When in doubt, check post TWO for drop info.

Q: I found a penny guide and a clerk denied me! I'ma report 'em!
A: Whoa, hold your horses there, pardner! First of all, not a question. Second, just because something is on the shelf, the clerk does NOT have to sell you that item. Most stores are PRIVATE property and as such can deny you just about anything they want - including a sale. The best advice is to not be rude, not be arrogant, and just try hard to get them to have pity on you.

Q: Why don't the clerks want to sell me their penny guides? Aren't they just throwing them away?
A: As stated above, the stores are ordered by the publisher to trash the guides, and are then given credit for those guides. If they don't do this, the publisher won't give them the credit - it's like losing a sale. On the employee level, selling a penny guide can sometimes get them in trouble (or even fired!) I know it seems silly, but this is their job we're talking about! Respect the man (or woman) behind the counter and you'll get a lot more guides than otherwise!

Q: Should I just ask if the store has penny guides then?
A: No, since that denotes that you have some insider information as to the runnings of these businesses.

Q: What if the clerk wants to know how I know so much about guide drops?
A: If asked where you got your info about guides that pennied, simply say either 'the internet' or 'a friend of mine told me they're on clearance'.

Q: But clerks will know what a penny guide is, right? I can talk to them like anyone else here...
A: Never use the word pennied to ANY store clerks unless you have built up a good rapport with them. Even then, it may seem a little fishy if you know more about their shop than they do.

Q: Are guides labeled as a penny on the shelf?
A: Sometimes. Most times, no. GS seems to label everything that gets a price drop, so often times guides will be stickered. But even so, they most likely won't sell them to you. A sticker does not mean 'have to sell'.

Q: I tried to buy a guide that this thread said was pennied and it didn't ring up as such! What gives?
A: Either 1) Our source was wrong (this rarely happens and is usually verified a FEW times within maybe an hour of posting), or 2) The clerk changed the price. It's usually number 2.

Q: What's the easiest way to get penny guides? This sounds like TONS of work!
A: Best Buy is probably the best place to get guides, followed by GameStop, GameCrazy, Toys R Us and then Blockbuster. From what I've seen though, probably 95% of guides that people get are snagged at BB - the rest come from the other stores. But it never hurts to try!

Q: Has there been a drop recently?
A: If you are asking this question you didn't fully understand the OP - go back and read it once more. When a drop happens, it will be posted, and then placed in the second post - trust us.

Q: How do you guys know so much about penny guides?
A: We sometimes have inside sources with the information from the stores themselves; other times, fellow CAGS just like you or me simply take suspected guides to the register and ask them to ring them up, to check their prices. Feel free to do this yourself, and help give back to the community by telling us what you find! However, DON'T ask "Has anyone checked XXX lately?", unless you are in the right thread (discussion area).

Thanks to GrilledWitOnions for creating the above FAQ, which should eliminate the need for such questions popping up in the thread from this point on out.
 
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[quote name='judgedee']WTF are you talking about? I think you need to look up what the term material means. Material damage does not mean a bent corner or something. Material damage they're referring to is probably stuff like ripper covers, missing pages, ripped out pages stuff like that. I doubt Amazon wants to scam you over a $1 strategy guide. Be less paranoid please[/QUOTE]


What are you talking about? Is it possible for damage on a material to NOT be "material damage"? As far as I'm concerned, a bent corner is damage. Considering it's made out of a material... it's classified as material damage. They have the freedom to make that call. I'm just warning anyone interested in this that they can LEGALLY take your guide if it is damaged in any way.
 
[quote name='judgedee']WTF are you talking about? I think you need to look up what the term material means. Material damage does not mean a bent corner or something. Material damage they're referring to is probably stuff like ripper covers, missing pages, ripped out pages stuff like that. I doubt Amazon wants to scam you over a $1 strategy guide. Be less paranoid please[/QUOTE]


Instead of acting like a douchebag about it, you could try explaining how I misunderstood it. I was just trying to help.
 
Yeah, I also wonder if small tears and/or stickers/residue would count against it. Also, I don't know why, but some of my guides don't have the same ISBN as Amazon lists (for example, Orange Box). Wonder if I should email them first.
 
[quote name='Viper45']I apologize for the "off topic" post, but this warning would likely go unheard if posted in the discussion thread. Before anyone gets too giddy over the Amazon trade-in program, check out this little tidbit I found in their terms and conditions:

This means if your book is not in absolutely perfect condition, i.e. if it is "materially damaged" in any way, they don't have to pay you for it or return it to you. With this agreement, they can legally keep your book if it's damaged in any way, and then resell it anyway. It's basically a license to steal.[/QUOTE]

Up until I read the part about water damage I was going to send them a second Red Dead Revolver guide that I have, but that has a clear water stain on the back cover on the inside.:cry:
 
[quote name='perdition(troy']INFINITE UNDISCOVERY - 2 $6.14 aka $3.07 a piece
Ninja Gaiden Sigma - $4.94
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - 2 $11.10 aka $5.55 a piece
FINAL FANTASY IV - 3 $16.98 aka $5.66
Resistance: Fall of Man - $3.55
Eternal Sonata - $15.05
World of Warcraft Master Guide, Second Edition - $2.00
Silent Hill: Homecoming - $2.67
BioShock PS3 - 3 $11.10 aka $3.70 a piece
Fallout 3 - $2.20
Art of Mass Effect, The - $14.00
Dragon Age: Origins Collector's Edition - $19.35

All that came sealed are still sealed, and that's $109 bucks worth that I'll be sending in later this week.[/QUOTE]

If you haven't already sent this in, you may want to take another look at Legend of Zelda: TP. Looks like it is trading for $10 a piece right now.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/07...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846
 
[quote name='Wolve11']You are trading your DA CE guide?!? I'm sure someone here would trade you a nice set of guides for it.[/QUOTE]

This.

I traded a DA CE guide (when it first pennied at GS) for a Borderlands, Batman: AA and CoD: WaW guide. I only made that trade because I thought the DA CE guide would penny at BB soon after. The list price for the guide on Amazon MP/Ebay was $45-50 at the time.
 
[quote name='jscme']If you haven't already sent this in, you may want to take another look at Legend of Zelda: TP. Looks like it is trading for $10 a piece right now.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/07...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846

[/quote]

There are multiple versions of the Zelda: TP guide though, just like there are multiples of The Godfather and Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, with the latter of the three having about 3-5 or more versions.

There were at least THREE incarnations of the Z:TP guide that I know of: Gamecube, a hardcover edition and a Wii version of the guide.

So perhaps they locked in the appropriate one for the guide they have in their collection. I just wish that the CAG who said they would grab some of the ones that were heading to Amazon would hurry up and tell me yes or no already so I can lock in some of these values otherwise.:bomb:
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']There are multiple versions of the Zelda: TP guide though, just like there are multiples of The Godfather and Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, with the latter of the three having about 3-5 or more versions.

There were at least THREE incarnations of the Z:TP guide that I know of: Gamecube, a hardcover edition and a Wii version of the guide.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, there's also 2 Nintendo Power versions, I believe (1 for GC and 1 for Wii?)
 
What amazed me about the Amazon trade thing though is that some of the same guides had 2-3 listings for the SAME guide(inFamous, for one) and on one listing the guide wasn't able to be traded, but on another identical one they were.
 
Hm, is there any value to the Assassin's Creed 1 bundle guide + artbook? It sells for a combination of $14 on Amazon separately (and only $5 as a bundle, wha?), but if there's demand for it, I'd hold onto it. I like having collector's edition guides, but I didn't really care for Assassin's Creed.
 
[quote name='GuardianE']Hm, is there any value to the Assassin's Creed 1 bundle guide + artbook? It sells for a combination of $14 on Amazon, but if there's demand for it, I'd hold onto it. I like having collector's edition guides, but I didn't really care for Assassin's Creed.[/QUOTE]

I think the guide and artbook sell seperately for $8 for one and $4 for the other. So the bundle is worth about $12-ish.

I'm really debating locking in the values on a majority of these guides since I'm kinda impatient lately when dealing online. Either you want the stuff and pay me now or don't bother me has become my attitude anymore.

I've mainly begun to get this attitude because I've missed out on flipping opportunities to get rid of useless shit before because I was waiting on someone to make up their minds.:roll:
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']I think the guide and artbook sell seperately for $8 for one and $4 for the other. So the bundle is worth about $12-ish.

I'm really debating locking in the values on a majority of these guides since I'm kinda impatient lately when dealing online. Either you want the stuff and pay me now or don't bother me has become my attitude anymore.

I've mainly begun to get this attitude because I've missed out on flipping opportunities to get rid of useless shit before because I was waiting on someone to make up their minds.:roll:[/QUOTE]

Why don't you just lock in the values and cancel them later on? In fact, why even cancel them? I created a trade in order with some guides that I won't be able to send since I chose the wrong version by accident (Bioshock). I won't edit the order because some of the guides in the order will disappear (since they are no longer available for trade).
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']There are multiple versions of the Zelda: TP guide though, just like there are multiples of The Godfather and Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, with the latter of the three having about 3-5 or more versions.

There were at least THREE incarnations of the Z:TP guide that I know of: Gamecube, a hardcover edition and a Wii version of the guide.

So perhaps they locked in the appropriate one for the guide they have in their collection. I just wish that the CAG who said they would grab some of the ones that were heading to Amazon would hurry up and tell me yes or no already so I can lock in some of these values otherwise.:bomb:[/QUOTE]

He's looking at the white-cover paperback version. There are two identical listings for the white-cover paperback (picture-wise), but the ISBN/UPCs are different. Chances are he has the appropriate one, though.
 
[quote name='Doomstink']It's not really that the OT discussion annoys me or anything, it's mainly the fact that once lurkers realize they can make a quick dollar on these things they'll be more inclined to snap them up when they drop. It is really better for all of us if we keep guide flipping discussion on the DL. Most people think these things are worthless.[/QUOTE]

So you bumped this thread up twice in the same day so that you could say shut up and quit drawing attention to the thread? I wonder about you sometimes.
 
[quote name='jscme']If you haven't already sent this in, you may want to take another look at Legend of Zelda: TP. Looks like it is trading for $10 a piece right now.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/07...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846[/QUOTE]

Not all. The one you have listed there is ISBN 978-0761555711 but the book I have has ISBN 978-0761561590 and is only $5.55 trade in. Same paperback Wii guide. Damn them making multiple printings of the exact same guide but with different ISBNs.
 
Whoever is selling guides can you contact me first? I am still trying to add to my collection and i'll pay whatever amazon is going to give you plus shipping.
 
[quote name='Estebon']Whoever is selling guides can you contact me first? I am still trying to add to my collection and i'll pay whatever amazon is going to give you plus shipping.[/QUOTE]

Haha same here
 
[quote name='shoe478']So you bumped this thread up twice in the same day so that you could say shut up and quit drawing attention to the thread? I wonder about you sometimes.[/QUOTE]

I don't care if the thread is bumped, discussing guide flipping is something that will attract more lurkers (the easier the money is, the more people will jump on to the deal) and that is a problem. At this point though, after four to six pages of trade-in discussion, it really doesn't matter anymore. And yes, I just bumped the thread again, I realize that I am drawing more attention to the thread by doing this. And honestly, considering that there was multiple posts after my last two, it really wouldn't have mattered had I posted or not, the thread would still be bumped.
 
Okay, so while I'm here, what the heck is up with the Soul Calibur 2 Limited Edition Fighters Guide w/ soundtrack? I've picked up not one, but two of these, and I can't find them listed on either ebay or amazon.
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']So it looks like some of you were right and lurkers flooded Amazon with trade-ins as most of my junk list($2-4 guides) are now 'not available for trade-in'. fuck.[/QUOTE]

right its the "lurkers"... I am sure CAGers are saints who would never hoard guides and would never dream of trading it in for a quick buck. Good logic.
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']So it looks like some of you were right and lurkers flooded Amazon with trade-ins as most of my junk list($2-4 guides) are now 'not available for trade-in'. fuck.[/QUOTE]

Why didn't you lock it in when you saw the TIVs? Even if you don't send them in, it eventually just goes to cancelled. You amaze me. :roll:
 
[quote name='galvatron2k1']Why didn't you lock it in when you saw the TIVs? Even if you don't send them in, it eventually just goes to cancelled. You amaze me. :roll:[/QUOTE]
Yeah. I was dumb for not locking them in. Although most of the ones I have have a cover crease or bend and I'm not sure how anal retentive Amazon's people are about the condition on these. I always thought I was grabbing the better condition ones, but upon inspecting many of them the other night I found spine creases and little nicks and portions of the covers that're fading and so on.:cry:

Plus, I got like 90 bajillion PM's for many of the ones I listed and I've been sorting through which ones to take the offers of over the past couple days.

Thus far though it's looking like most will be going back into the stacks of guides and I'm not sending ANY of them out.:cry: Whatever. I was just shocked when some of these were worth quite a bit more than I paid and way more than I've ever been offered for any of them.
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']So it looks like some of you were right and lurkers flooded Amazon with trade-ins as most of my junk list($2-4 guides) are now 'not available for trade-in'. fuck.[/QUOTE]

I'll match their offer. Send them to me for nothing at all. ;)
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']Yeah. I was dumb for not locking them in. Although most of the ones I have have a cover crease or bend and I'm not sure how anal retentive Amazon's people are about the condition on these. I always thought I was grabbing the better condition ones, but upon inspecting many of them the other night I found spine creases and little nicks and portions of the covers that're fading and so on.:cry:

Plus, I got like 90 bajillion PM's for many of the ones I listed and I've been sorting through which ones to take the offers of over the past couple days.

Thus far though it's looking like most will be going back into the stacks of guides and I'm not sending ANY of them out.:cry: Whatever. I was just shocked when some of these were worth quite a bit more than I paid and way more than I've ever been offered for any of them.[/QUOTE]

Whenever I do any online trade-ins I'll send 5-6 items in excellent condition, and if I got an item or two that's questionable (expendable) I'll include that too. I'm thinking if they get sent a fair bit of quality stuff that they can make money on, they won't be as picky.
 
[quote name='Estebon']I'll match their offer. Send them to me for nothing at all. ;)[/QUOTE]
:razz: At least Red Dead Revolver is still able to be traded in....and it's value went UP from $11.99 to $15 now.:D
 
Son of a bitch.

Now it's going to be even harder to find guides now that the lurkers/random people know you can trade them in for profit. Before I, like most probably, didn't know about it so I'm sure I'll have even more people to compete with for guides.
 
Its getting harder to get guides because the CAG community caused stores to lose a ton of cash on penny guides. So thats why you won't get them for the most part.
 
its simple really if you really want the guide but it from amazon preorder. you save 30% off the guides their. i honestly used the penny guides as read copies for collection. i still support the companies by buying retail.
 
Estebon - stores don't lose anything with penny guides. In fact they make a penny that they weren't supposed to earn.

Publishers lose out because those guides were supposed to be destroyed.
 
[quote name='daminion']Estebon - stores don't lose anything with penny guides. In fact they make a penny that they weren't supposed to earn.

Publishers lose out because those guides were supposed to be destroyed.[/QUOTE]Actually, stores do lose money when they sell penny guides. When the guides are supposed to be field destroyed, they're supposed to have the back covers sent back to the publisher for a credit to the store.

When the guide is sold at a penny, the store doesn't get the credit and the publisher loses money on the sale. Lose for the store, lose for the publisher.

If the guide is field destroyed and the back cover sent back to the publisher, the store doesn't lose money.
 
Wow, yesterday I went through all my guide to trade in at amazon. I had 35 guides at the time, but didn't go trough with it completely. Figuring I'd find a few more to do.
Today, my list went down from 35 guides to 6. Holy crap.
Oh well, I guess I could just sell them to Half Price books for about $20 (instead of the $135 I thought I'd be getting from amazon credit). It just doesn't Pay to Sit on anything nowadays. "Here today, Gone tomorrow"? I don' think so. More like "Here today, gone in about 5 minutes".
 
[quote name='Estebon']Its getting harder to get guides because the CAG community caused stores to lose a ton of cash on penny guides. So thats why you won't get them for the most part.[/QUOTE]

we didn't force stores to price them at a penny. Their decision, and we just take advantage.
 
Does someone have a link to see what I could get for some of my guides through amazon?!? I attempted to try and find it, but had trouble navigating through the mess of menus in Amazon...it would be much appreciated.
 
[quote name='sunnysky']Wow, yesterday I went through all my guide to trade in at amazon. I had 35 guides at the time, but didn't go trough with it completely. Figuring I'd find a few more to do.
Today, my list went down from 35 guides to 6. Holy crap.
Oh well, I guess I could just sell them to Half Price books for about $20 (instead of the $135 I thought I'd be getting from amazon credit). It just doesn't Pay to Sit on anything nowadays. "Here today, Gone tomorrow"? I don' think so. More like "Here today, gone in about 5 minutes".[/QUOTE]

lol dropped like a rock? No.... why with all the bragging and $100+ detailed posts surely no one would jump on this .... come on guys this site is now all about lurkers (thanks in part to all the SD links and whining about getting "credit" for posting a deal ... if you want something to last, think about what you post and is it worth bumping/highlighting/bringing to the attention of others ...
this "opportunity" was posted in the Amazon thread weeks ago and for some twisted/bored reason now pages and pages in the reduced guide thread...
bravo! :applause:
 
[quote name='donut']lol dropped like a rock? No.... why with all the bragging and $100+ detailed posts surely no one would jump on this .... come on guys this site is now all about lurkers (thanks in part to all the SD links and whining about getting "credit" for posting a deal ... if you want something to last, think about what you post and is it worth bumping/highlighting/bringing to the attention of others ...
this "opportunity" was posted in the Amazon thread weeks ago and for some twisted/bored reason now pages and pages in the reduced guide thread...
bravo! :applause:[/QUOTE]

All these years of being on here and I still don't understand this logic. How was anyone that frequents this thread supposed to have known about this option at Amazon? Sure, you could bury this post somewhere where these supposed "lurkers" wouldn't find it, but then wouldn't "legitimate" CAGs not be able to find it too?

When it comes to CAG, either you post a deal that anybody with a computer and internet can see and take advantage of, or you don't post the deal and not a single person will know about it. There is no middle ground and I'm still confused why people still don't understand it. Even 1 post "calls attention" to a deal, so it doesn't matter if there are no replies or 30 replies.

The bottom line is when a ridiculously good deal is posted, you have to act quickly or risk losing out. But what happens is people drag their feet, miss out and then blame lurkers/FW/SD/etc.
 
[quote name='Ubiiquitous'] But what happens is people drag their feet, miss out and then blame lurkers/FW/SD/etc.[/QUOTE]

Not blaming where we are now ... just bringing to light all the silly, non-informative, bragging posts highlight for the lazy and then the opportunity is gone quickly ...

that and bringing multiple non-topic posts ....

lmao you don't think 30 posts and keeping it at the top of the first page matters vs posting once? uh, after all these years ... ok
 
[quote name='donut']Not blaming where we are now ... just bringing to light all the silly, non-informative, bragging posts highlight for the lazy and then the opportunity is gone quickly ...

that and bringing multiple non-topic posts ....

lmao you don't think 30 posts and keeping it at the top of the first page matters vs posting once? uh, after all these years ... ok[/QUOTE]

No, I don't. What difference does it make anyway? Who has authority to say who has a right to a deal and who doesn't? If it wasn't at the top of the page, some people would miss out. If you think that most people should have to go the secret door, with the secret knock and know the secret handshake to get a deal, then you have missed the point of this site. Wouldn't you be more upset if there was an awesome deal that somebody knew about but they didn't want to "keep it on top of the first page" so they just hid it somewhere, or worse, didn't post at all?

I'll take my chances with a post being bumped a good bit. I mean, I don't like the worthless posts by people saying what they got at stores and stuff, but it's not because of needless bumps. Just annoying to sort through that extraneous/bragging stuff.
 
I think both Donut and Ubliiquitous are right.

1. Don't blame the lurkers/FW/SD/etc...you should blame other CAGs and GS employees who now know that they can make a lot of money with penny guides. It's going to be harder to find penny guides because people who didn't care about them before, will start actively looking for them.

2. If a post is at the top, there is more chance of it being read. I'm not saying who has a right to a deal or not, but bragging about making $200 off this or that....draw a lot of attention from CAGs and non-CAGs skimmers.

Example is a SMB....it has been talked about a lot and every few days someone asks why are you buying that, how much is TIV, where is the high TIV, and what is the deal....because they see a lot of people bragging of it. And they don't want to read the old post. They just want the answer so that they can join in on the deal.

Last thing, a bump is not needed if you follow the thread.
 
[quote name='Readthepost']I think both Donut and Ubliiquitous are right.

1. Don't blame the lurkers/FW/SD/etc...you should blame other CAGs and GS employees who now know that they can make a lot of money with penny guides. It's going to be harder to find penny guides because people who didn't care about them before, will start actively looking for them.

2. If a post is at the top, there is more chance of it being read. I'm not saying who has a right to a deal or not, but bragging about making $200 off this or that....draw a lot of attention from CAGs and non-CAGs skimmers.

Example is a SMB....it has been talked about a lot and every few days someone asks why are you buying that, how much is TIV, where is the high TIV, and what is the deal....because they see a lot of people bragging of it. And they don't want to read the old post. They just want the answer so that they can join in on the deal.

Last thing, a bump is not needed if you follow the thread.[/QUOTE]

All genuinely good points. I don't feel that the thread should be needlessly bumped, but if a CAG doesn't follow the thread then he/she wouldn't know about any deals. Besides, all it takes is a single bump, anyway. As for the first point, I don't feel anyone is at fault for anything. If the value on guides has gone down on Amazon due to a lot of trade-ins of the same guide, then that's just how it goes. Besides, they have a cap on how many guides you can send in, so it's not like one person send in 100 Fallout 3 guides and now there isn't a need by Amazon for that guide anymore. It's 20 different people who sent in a few.

You make good points, though. I've seen so many people talk about keeping the stuff in this thread hush-hush, but that doesn't even make sense. Even 1 post about a deal and the flood gates can open.

It's pretty simple, really. When a deal gets posted, jump on it quickly. Just like you want that deal badly, so does everyone else, so the early bird gets the worm.
 
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