Rock Band series - Rock Band 4 out now

Leaked from gibson.com (next week's stuff):
Starting April 26, Harmonix will offer a three-pack of Orbison songs in the Rock Band 3 Music Store of downloadable content for the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3 and Wii. The songs in the pack are: “Blue Bayou,” “Dream Baby (How Long Must I Dream)” and “Only the Lonely (Know the Way I Feel).”
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Also some live KISS tracks. Rock N Roll All Nite & Strutter.

I guess the fact that this thread has had no posts since the announcement is a sign this game is finally fading out a little.
 
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In vaguely Rock Band-related news, I won an autographed copy of Billy Joel's Live at Shea Stadium from 411mania. Funny enough, one reply to the post announcing the giveaway was from Jimbo Slice asking why the hell anyone would want it.

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[quote name='Matt Young']In vaguely Rock Band-related news, I won an autographed copy of Billy Joel's Live at Shea Stadium from 411mania. Funny enough, one reply to the post announcing the giveaway was from Jimbo Slice asking why the hell anyone would want it.

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My GF would KILL for that, you lucky fuck! :applause:
 
Next week:
• Culture Club – “Do You Really Want to Hurt Me”
• Faith No More – “From Out of Nowhere”
• Loverboy – “Working for the Weekend” X
• Phish – “Stash” X
• Phish – “Tweezer”
• Stone Temple Pilots – “Big Bang Baby” X

(All tracks are original master recordings)
(These tracks will be available in Europe on PlayStation®3 system May 4)

These tracks will be available for purchase as individual tracks on Xbox 360, PlayStation®3 system and Wii. Tracks marked with “X” will include Pro Guitar and Pro Bass expansions for $0.99 per song.

Price:

$1.99 USD, £.99 UK, €1.49 EU (160 Microsoft Points) per song
$2.00 USD (200 Wii Points™) per song
$0.99 USD (100 Wii Points/80 Microsoft Points), £0.59 UK, €0.79 EU per song for eligible Pro Guitar/Pro Bass upgrade
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[quote name='lordopus99']No wonder this thread is slowly dying...

Another week, another points saved.[/QUOTE]

I agree to a point but how can you not like Working for the Weekend?
 
What they really need to breathe a little life back into the game is another DLC sale. I'm still kicking myself for missing the CCR pack when they marked it down to 400 points. I'd easily jump on that and some other stuff I was on the fence about it they put it on sale.
 
Slipped through the cracks a couple weeks back, but the live version of Strutter is quite good. That was a favorite from GH2 so I'm glad it popped up. I usually dislike live tracks but this one is pretty close to AC DC track pack level as far as quality when compared to the studio version.

Working for the Weekend doesn't seem to be a re-record thankfully, although the mix sounds a little different, as is the case with a lot of RB stuff.
 
Working for the weekend not being a rerecord is nice. Jenny had me worried. I need to catch up on some dlc since gears has been dominating all my gaming time. Been getting the rock band itch lately.
 
[quote name='Trakan']I don't see RB4 even being released, ever.[/QUOTE]

Same here. I think we'll get another couple of patches for RB3 at some point later this year, and that'll be it for the series, at least in its current form.
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']Same here. I think we'll get another couple of patches for RB3 at some point later this year, and that'll be it for the series, at least in its current form.[/QUOTE]
sadly i doubt we'll even get that. after the last patch HMX said there were no further patches planned at this time.

RB4 is going to require the next-gen hardware. something with more than 4 controllers and the horsepower to handle 7 band members and still handle the graphics. not the crap-tastic "all instruments mode" and lame "video backgrounds"
 
I'm still waiting for a few new Social D tracks to come to Rock Band, but I'm starting to give up any hope of that happening. :(
 
The Ozzy tracks are apparently from Diary/Blizzard. Got this from Blabbermouth:

In an interview with Game Informer, Harmonix's Chris Rigopulos revealed the slate of downloadable content in store for Rock Band this month, including tracks from the upcoming reissues of two legendary OZZY OSBOURNE albums, "Diary Of A Madman" and "Blizzard Of Ozz".

If Over The Mountain isn't one then fuck them all.
 
Good news on the Ozzy stuff being from his actual couple of good albums.
I understand these rereleases are restoring the original bass and drums, which is also good.
 
Next Weeks
- Foo Fighters – “Long Road to Ruin”
- Foo Fighters – “Rope” X
- Foo Fighters – “Stacked Actors”
- Foo Fighters – “Walk”
- Lordi – “Hard Rock Hallelujah”
- Run-DMC – “King of Rock”

Pro Guitar Additions
- Foo Fighters – “Monkey Wrench”
- Foo Fighters – “The Pretender”
 
Nice, I'll probably pick up Rope and Stacked Actors. Would have liked to see Bridge Burning though if they were going to pick another track off the new album.
 
Pretty good week. In for Run DMC and probably Lordi...poor choice for Lordi song though, there are some tracks from them that would have been a lot better. May grab at least one of the pro upgrades for the older FF songs.

Agreed w/ above though...we need more Gwar badly.

Definitely in for the upcoming Pantera stuff.
 
You know how YouTube says not to upload copyrighted content but everyone does anyway and the only recourse for copyright holders is to fax in a take-down request and nothing else because YouTube is a safe harbor according to Viacom v. YouTube?

Well, over at the official Rock Band forums I wondered about a version of the Rock Band Network that works the same way. People upload their authored tracks, and if it happens to be copyrighted content, well, Harmonix would take it down at the request of the copyright holder. Safe harbor, right?

The posters over at the Rock Band forums went ape shit at this idea, but I was wondering what you guys think. It's not anything I think would ever happen, but more of a thought experiment.

Here's what I've come up with:
Pros: 1) The ability to enjoy copyrighted music until it gets taken down, just like YouTube.
2) Harmonix doesn't get sued because of safe harbor, just like YouTube.

Cons: 1) Lack of quality control. A rating system would be instituted of course, just like YouTube.
2) You can't charge for your track until it is verified that you own it, which means some people may enjoy your track before you can earn money from it, just like YouTube.
3) This would be harder to do on consoles and easier to do on PC.
4) Music publishers may not be able to sue, but they could stop doing business with Harmonix (but I think this is unlikely because even though content providers are getting their shit stolen and put up on YouTube left and right, they still do business with YouTube, up to and including their new rental feature).
5) RBN becomes more of a social network sharing site thing instead of a place to showcase Indie talent.

As an aside, YouTube had the audacity to place ads on copyrighted content and then send the revenue to content providers, haha. The whole system is set up to basically browbeat content providers into voluntarily putting their stuff on YouTube even if they don't want to. Insane.
 
[quote name='Spokker']You know how YouTube says not to upload copyrighted content but everyone does anyway and the only recourse for copyright holders is to fax in a take-down request and nothing else because YouTube is a safe harbor according to Viacom v. YouTube?

Well, over at the official Rock Band forums I wondered about a version of the Rock Band Network that works the same way. People upload their authored tracks, and if it happens to be copyrighted content, well, Harmonix would take it down at the request of the copyright holder. Safe harbor, right?

The posters over at the Rock Band forums went ape shit at this idea, but I was wondering what you guys think. It's not anything I think would ever happen, but more of a thought experiment.

Here's what I've come up with:
Pros: 1) The ability to enjoy copyrighted music until it gets taken down, just like YouTube.
2) Harmonix doesn't get sued because of safe harbor, just like YouTube.

Cons: 1) Lack of quality control. A rating system would be instituted of course, just like YouTube.
2) You can't charge for your track until it is verified that you own it, which means some people may enjoy your track before you can earn money from it, just like YouTube.
3) This would be harder to do on consoles and easier to do on PC.
4) Music publishers may not be able to sue, but they could stop doing business with Harmonix (but I think this is unlikely because even though content providers are getting their shit stolen and put up on YouTube left and right, they still do business with YouTube, up to and including their new rental feature).
5) RBN becomes more of a social network sharing site thing instead of a place to showcase Indie talent.[/quote]

I think Harmonix needs to stay on the record companies' good side, so this doesn't sound like a good idea to me.
 
[quote name='pete5883']I think Harmonix needs to stay on the record companies' good side, so this doesn't sound like a good idea to me.[/QUOTE]
I guess you are right. YouTube was such a huge player that they didn't need to stay on anyone's good side. They are basically calling the shots right now.
 
Do any of you guys have tips for getting better at this game? I can barely get 90-95% on most medium songs. It's that stupid orange key that gets me most of the time because then my hand is in the wrong spot.

Do most of you that play on expert put your hand in a certain position to make hitting notes easier with speed/accuracy?
 
[quote name='mtxbass1']Do any of you guys have tips for getting better at this game? I can barely get 90-95% on most medium songs. It's that stupid orange key that gets me most of the time because then my hand is in the wrong spot.

Do most of you that play on expert put your hand in a certain position to make hitting notes easier with speed/accuracy?[/QUOTE]

Honestly? Go back to Rock Band 1 or GH2 to practice. Those two games had a clear progression of difficulty and taught you the keys. With the games since, it's basically just a giant juke box of tunes at your disposal, which makes learning difficult.

I keep my hand in first position (pointer on green) and slide down as needed. It took a while, where I'd lose my finger placement and fuck up, but eventually it just clicked. Something that helped was 'walking' my fingers down the keys so I wouldn't lose placement.
 
[quote name='mtxbass1']Do any of you guys have tips for getting better at this game? I can barely get 90-95% on most medium songs. It's that stupid orange key that gets me most of the time because then my hand is in the wrong spot.

Do most of you that play on expert put your hand in a certain position to make hitting notes easier with speed/accuracy?[/QUOTE]

It will sound like a bad cliche, but practice is really the best way to get better. I do agree that starting with RB1 and GH2 as Corvin suggested is a good idea since it walks you up tiers of progressively more difficult songs, but really it comes down to putting in time and playing the game a lot. When I first picked up GH for PS2 back in the day, it was a ton of fun but really frustrating until I got better. At first I never thought I would be able to play at harder difficulties, but over time I learned the songs and got better.

A few things that helped me improve: When you have songs that go up and down the fretboard you need to move your entire hand down and play with your index on red instead of green. This will help you get better hitting orange notes more consistently since your pinky will be on orange as opposed to having to stretch it down to hit that note. Then as the notes go back up to include green you shift your entire hand to start at green again. If you can get into playing like that it will help you immensely. Also being able to hammer on and pull off (HOPO) notes that are higher on the fretboard will make it easier on you when you play songs with alot of notes since you will have notes held down already and it will minimize the amount you take your fingers on and off the buttons. This is something I still can never get into the habit of doing consistently. It is probably why I'll never be better than above average at this game.

Also, as I have grown older, I really do think there is a generational gap with the music games. If you started playing as a teen or in your early 20s I think your ceiling is much higher than if you picked it up after that. At least that is what I keep telling myself! ;)
 
Another good tip is to try to get into the habit of alternating your strumming (ie. down then up). If you're a person who uses all down strums, you'll find that the songs feel like they're at half speed when you switch to down/up. More difficult songs can be overwhelming with the amount of notes that come at you, but using this method definitely makes them easier.

As for hand position, I agree with Glock that you want to shift your entire hand. For songs that have a repeated progression, there's usually one or two spots where you can just slide over between notes and make a smooth transition. What I do sometimes is actually start on the lower 5 buttons (index: red - pinky: orange). My reasoning is that if I need to, it's easier to stretch my index up to green than my pinky down to orange for just a quick note. And also because for the harder songs, a lot of times it seems like you use orange more than green anyway.

Ultimately, the more you shift back and forth, the more comfortable you should get with it. But hopefully these tips will make it easier.
 
[quote name='Spokker']You know how YouTube says not to upload copyrighted content but everyone does anyway and the only recourse for copyright holders is to fax in a take-down request and nothing else because YouTube is a safe harbor according to Viacom v. YouTube?

Well, over at the official Rock Band forums I wondered about a version of the Rock Band Network that works the same way. People upload their authored tracks, and if it happens to be copyrighted content, well, Harmonix would take it down at the request of the copyright holder. Safe harbor, right?

The posters over at the Rock Band forums went ape shit at this idea, but I was wondering what you guys think. It's not anything I think would ever happen, but more of a thought experiment.

Here's what I've come up with:
Pros: 1) The ability to enjoy copyrighted music until it gets taken down, just like YouTube.
2) Harmonix doesn't get sued because of safe harbor, just like YouTube.

Cons: 1) Lack of quality control. A rating system would be instituted of course, just like YouTube.
2) You can't charge for your track until it is verified that you own it, which means some people may enjoy your track before you can earn money from it, just like YouTube.
3) This would be harder to do on consoles and easier to do on PC.
4) Music publishers may not be able to sue, but they could stop doing business with Harmonix (but I think this is unlikely because even though content providers are getting their shit stolen and put up on YouTube left and right, they still do business with YouTube, up to and including their new rental feature).
5) RBN becomes more of a social network sharing site thing instead of a place to showcase Indie talent.

As an aside, YouTube had the audacity to place ads on copyrighted content and then send the revenue to content providers, haha. The whole system is set up to basically browbeat content providers into voluntarily putting their stuff on YouTube even if they don't want to. Insane.[/QUOTE]

Besides the fact that HMX needs to stay on the bands and labels good side as mentioned above, there is a clear distinction that they are directly charging for this content, which changes the stakes of the game.

Also, to author tracks for Rock Band you need the multichannel audio with all the different parts on their own track. You have to get these directly from the band/label in the first place.
 
[quote name='porieux']Besides the fact that HMX needs to stay on the bands and labels good side as mentioned above, there is a clear distinction that they are directly charging for this content, which changes the stakes of the game.
[/QUOTE]
You would not be able to charge for a track on this hypothetical version of RBN until ownership is verified.

And to compare to YouTube, unauthorized content that is uploaded to YouTube does not show ads, but other parts of YouTube certainly show ads. If people are attracted to YouTube because it contains so much copyrighted content, then simply by a fraction of them clicking on the link to the front page does YouTube make money off of unauthorized copyrighted content.

One example is a Howard Stern segment I found on YouTube with 2 million views. How many of those people browsed to other parts of YouTube that did have ads?

So this idea that "if you make money off of it, it's not okay" is absurd because YouTube, the biggest player in the game, basically does just that. As long as they delete copyrighted content when requested, each and every single time it is uploaded, for each and every single individual piece of content, until the end of time, you are not allowed to take further action.
 
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