RPG Thread IX is a steaming pile of pointless monologue. Just Youtube the ending!

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[quote name='Zmonkay']Nice. Guess I'll have to pick it up some time, making it I think the 4th time I've played it, lol.

Also, Vesperia's Secret Missions can suck a fat one. I've killed so many bosses before the "SM" part even came up, fuck it. Don't really care about the cheavos or titles anyway.[/QUOTE]

I'm in the same boat as you. When I first started playing ToV, I was worried about getting the achievements for the secret missions, but later on in the game, I just didn't care anymore. ToV is a excellent RPG though, probably the best one that I have played on the 360
 
I finished Resonance of Fate yesterday. The story didn't really make any sense and I was reading the plot on wikipedia and the entire time I was thinking "where the hell did they get this stuff?" It was still a fun game, though.
 
Ganbarion's been making One Piece games for the last 10 years, so I guess they don't have anyone there that can draw an original character :lol:
 
[quote name='Zmonkay']
Also, Vesperia's Secret Missions can suck a fat one. I've killed so many bosses before the "SM" part even came up, fuck it. Don't really care about the cheavos or titles anyway.[/QUOTE]


LOL yeah and some of them are a nightmare to even get. Still you get a nice sword out of it....after you beat the last boss. :)
 
Persona 4's got its hooks back in me again big time. Unfortunately I'm doing a "real-time" playthrough, so keeping myself to only one game day at a time is tough, but in the end it'll be worth it.
 
[quote name='Backlash']That's gonna be tough in some of those later dungeons where you might need to grind some. Good luck, though.[/QUOTE]

On the contrary I suspect I'll spend the majority of the game way overleveled, since not being able to advance past the current date will just give me more grinding time on those days I choose to do so.
 
Oh, I guess that could happen, too. I tended to only go into a dungeon twice per month so I could maximize my S Link time. So I just tried to get all my dungeon time in on 2 days (at least, as far as I remember. It's been awhile).
 
[quote name='leeloo1977']Is Atelier Rorona any good? I am thinking about picking it up.[/QUOTE]
Have you ever played an Atelier game other than the Iris series on PS2? There's much more emphasis on collecting ingredients and making items rather than fighting and such.
I thought it was all right, but it was a bit short. I was able to beat it in like 15 hours, I think. Although, there is a fair amount of re-playability because there are about a dozen endings if you're into that sort of thing.
 
[quote name='ChibiJosh']Have you ever played an Atelier game other than the Iris series on PS2? There's much more emphasis on collecting ingredients and making items rather than fighting and such.
I thought it was all right, but it was a bit short. I was able to beat it in like 15 hours, I think. Although, there is a fair amount of re-playability because there are about a dozen endings if you're into that sort of thing.[/QUOTE]

I haven't played any of the Atelier games. I am just desperate for some good RPG's to play on the PS3. I don't think I would mind the emphasis on collecting and creating as long as those were fun elements, and I don't mind it being short especially if there is replayability. I think I am going to try and pick this up and give it a shot. I have Eternal Sonata and Star Ocean unopened but I am worried about giving those a shot because I was fairly disappointed in FFXIII. Atelier looks a bit more old school to me.

TBH the trophy thing in Star Ocean is one of the biggest reasons I haven't started playing it. I am so worried I will become so obsessed with chasing the "impossible" plat that it will suck all of the fun out of it for me.
 
[quote name='leeloo1977']
TBH the trophy thing in Star Ocean is one of the biggest reasons I haven't started playing it. I am so worried I will become so obsessed with chasing the "impossible" plat that it will suck all of the fun out of it for me.[/QUOTE]
I don't know how bad the Star Ocean trophies are, but it would take quite awhile to get the plat for Atelier Rorona as there is a separate trophy for each ending. Although, apparently it's possible to get all the endings in something like 3 or 4 separate full playthroughs as long as you're very good at planning things out.

Also, I should mention that the game has a time limit. The basic flow of the game is that you are given an assignment and you have so many days to complete the assignment. Then you normally go out to collect ingredients, and it takes so many days to travel to the dungeon areas (and to travel back). Then when you get the ingredients, it takes so many days to make the items. These deadlines are not hard to make, but they do tend to restrict doing extra things.
 
[quote name='Backlash']Oh, I guess that could happen, too. I tended to only go into a dungeon twice per month so I could maximize my S Link time. So I just tried to get all my dungeon time in on 2 days (at least, as far as I remember. It's been awhile).[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that's how I did it too. A real-time playthrough with that style would be 10 minutes per day most of the time. Then on dungeon days, you'd have to spend 10 hours.
 
Supposedly the Star Ocean plat takes about 400 hours to get. It takes about 4 playthroughs and many of the trophies are missable or just insane. I could ignore them (I don't really feel the "need" to plat a game) but for some reason it just seems overwhelming to me.

The time limit on Atelier might be annoying, I really like to mess around and just explore. I tend to avoid the main quest for hours at a time in RPGs.
 
[quote name='leeloo1977']Supposedly the Star Ocean plat takes about 400 hours to get. It takes about 4 playthroughs and many of the trophies are missable or just insane. I could ignore them (I don't really feel the "need" to plat a game) but for some reason it just seems overwhelming to me.

The time limit on Atelier might be annoying, I really like to mess around and just explore. I tend to avoid the main quest for hours at a time in RPGs.[/QUOTE]

For Star Ocean, I'm just hoping i can 50% it. That is my goal in most games 50% trophies or 500 achievement points. Then I'm happy. I have a feeling even that is a B though.

Maybe you should try one of the Iris games then whereyou can wander free. Or hit up another J-RPG on PS3 without the time limit bogging you down.
 
I notice on the NIS PS3 games I'm lucky to get 10% of trophies on the first playthough.

I was going to keep playing Ar Tonelico 3, but Trails in the Sky has brought that to a grinding halt and I got stuck. I'll pick it up again some other time, or I might sell it.
 
I really wish my PS3 was backwards compatible, or better yet that they would start offering some PS2 jrpgs repackaged (they don't even have to be HD, although trophies would be nice) or even PSN downloadable. I missed alot of the PS2 end of console life games since my husband talked me into giving up gaming for awhile. I have seriously considered getting a PSP for at least Lunar but I really detest handheld gaming. I was really hoping I could at least get one really great jrpg to play on the PS3, I no longer think it's going to happen though.


I did just start playing Ratchet & Clank CiT a few days ago. Although it isn't an RPG per say, for some weird reason it is giving me some serious Wild Arms nostalgia. I think perhaps because of the whole tether thing.
 
[quote name='leeloo1977']I really wish my PS3 was backwards compatible, or better yet that they would start offering some PS2 jrpgs repackaged (they don't even have to be HD, although trophies would be nice) or even PSN downloadable. I missed alot of the PS2 end of console life games since my husband talked me into giving up gaming for awhile. I have seriously considered getting a PSP for at least Lunar but I really detest handheld gaming. I was really hoping I could at least get one really great jrpg to play on the PS3, I no longer think it's going to happen though.


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The Lunar: Silver Star Harmony on PSP was great. If you detest handhelds just get the cords and hook it up to the TV. The PSP as a whole is amazing for J-RPGs especially classic ones and wouldn't disappoint you.
 
[quote name='Hell Monkey']The Lunar: Silver Star Harmony on PSP was great. If you detest handhelds just get the cords and hook it up to the TV. The PSP as a whole is amazing for J-RPGs especially classic ones and wouldn't disappoint you.[/QUOTE]

The DS is great for RPGs too, imo.
 
[quote name='Hell Monkey']The Lunar: Silver Star Harmony on PSP was great. [/QUOTE]

It was, and I thoroughly enjoyed it, but in my opinion the mechanics of Lunar have not aged well (as opposed to the story, which definitely has). The battles in Lunar are glacially slow, even by retro JRPG standards.
 
[quote name='leeloo1977']I really wish my PS3 was backwards compatible, or better yet that they would start offering some PS2 jrpgs repackaged (they don't even have to be HD, although trophies would be nice) or even PSN downloadable. I missed alot of the PS2 end of console life games since my husband talked me into giving up gaming for awhile. I have seriously considered getting a PSP for at least Lunar but I really detest handheld gaming. I was really hoping I could at least get one really great jrpg to play on the PS3, I no longer think it's going to happen though.[/QUOTE]

You can pick up a PS2 really cheap nowadays. I'd say it's worth it to play JRPGs like Dragon Quest 8, Persona 4, and others from the end of the PS2 era if you're a JRPG fan.

If your husband argues, point out that a movie ticket costs $10 for 2 hours of entertainment, but you'll be spending $50 (or so) for over 100 hours of entertainment. and that's just for one game + PS2. The next 100 hours would only be $15-$20.
 
[quote name='Backlash']You can pick up a PS2 really cheap nowadays. I'd say it's worth it to play JRPGs like Dragon Quest 8, Persona 4, and others from the end of the PS2 era if you're a JRPG fan.[/QUOTE]

Well worth it for sure. My PS2 still sees way more JRPG playtime than my PS3 does.
 
[quote name='Hell Monkey']The Lunar: Silver Star Harmony on PSP was great. If you detest handhelds just get the cords and hook it up to the TV. The PSP as a whole is amazing for J-RPGs especially classic ones and wouldn't disappoint you.[/QUOTE]

Do the PSP games fill the screen of the TV or is there a large black frame?

[quote name='Backlash']You can pick up a PS2 really cheap nowadays. I'd say it's worth it to play JRPGs like Dragon Quest 8, Persona 4, and others from the end of the PS2 era if you're a JRPG fan.

If your husband argues, point out that a movie ticket costs $10 for 2 hours of entertainment, but you'll be spending $50 (or so) for over 100 hours of entertainment. and that's just for one game + PS2. The next 100 hours would only be $15-$20.[/QUOTE]

My husband doesn't like spending money for movie tickets either ;) . In fact one of the reasons I was able to talk him into letting me get a PS3 was because of the Blu Ray player and ability to download movie rentals. I told him setting up a home theater would be cheaper than going out to watch or even rent movies (we use netflix). I probably could talk him into a PSP for my birthday since I end up having to sit in alot of waiting rooms for extended periods of time (although I doubt I would actually use it much as a handheld, I would still use this argument lol).

At this point it would probably be one or the other (PSP or PS2) and I still have my fingers crossed that E3 will announce PS2 downloads from PSN. Maybe I should just wait till after E3 to decide. My birthday is in July so the timing would be right.
 
[quote name='leeloo1977']Do the PSP games fill the screen of the TV or is there a large black frame?[/QUOTE]
There's a fairly large black frame around the image, like watching a non-anamorphic widescreen DVD on a widescreen television.
 
[quote name='leeloo1977']Do the PSP games fill the screen of the TV or is there a large black frame? [/QUOTE]

Black frame, but my TVs can both enlarge the image to fill it. Yours probably can too.
 
[quote name='Beatofficer']Just got home from work and Final Fantasy IV Complete Collection was waiting for me, lets do this![/QUOTE]

I've got to wait another couple weeks for the UK CE to arrive. I think I can probably contain myself though. If I get antsy I'll just bust out this bad boy:

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[quote name='bvharris']Well worth it for sure. My PS2 still sees way more JRPG playtime than my PS3 does.[/QUOTE]

If my PS2 were a PS1, this would still be true for me.

What else has taken more of my time than PS3 RPGs?
Xenosaga 1-3
P3 FES + P4 (Probably)
Suikoden 1-5
Disgaea 1 + Phantom Brave
Xenogears + Chrono Cross

Now that I think about it, the PS3 is an embarrassment to the Playstation name.
 
[quote name='default_shepard']Now that I think about it, the PS3 is an embarrassment to the Playstation name.[/QUOTE]

This is why I'm saving my sweet cash by NOT buying one
 
[quote name='Cheddahz']This is why I'm saving my sweet cash by NOT buying one[/QUOTE]

Cheddahz = Me
 
I only got a PS3 because a few games this gen really needed to be played for me (FFXIII, SSF4, Uncharted 2 -- Versus XIII, Last Guardian, XIII-2 and Uncharted 3 on the way!!)

Oh and Zone of the Enders 3 because it has to exist.

Everything else in on PC, and I probably still play PS2 more than PS3.
 
I think I am leaning towards picking up a PS2, the only reason I want the PSP is because of Lunar. I think the PS2 would offer more longevity. Unless they make some E3 announcement about playing PS2 games on the PS3.

I do have pretty high hopes (which will probably be crushed) that FFXIII-2 will end up being the game that I hoped FFXIII would be.
 
Got home, did about 30 minutes of Mortal Kombat and go into the glory of FFIV Complete Collection. Looks good, the sprites are quite details and actually feel a bit "big". Still it is def. the game I know and love. I didn't get to far only about to get Rydia but still enjoying it so far.
 
[quote name='leeloo1977']I think I am leaning towards picking up a PS2, the only reason I want the PSP is because of Lunar. I think the PS2 would offer more longevity. Unless they make some E3 announcement about playing PS2 games on the PS3.

I do have pretty high hopes (which will probably be crushed) that FFXIII-2 will end up being the game that I hoped FFXIII would be.[/QUOTE]

Picking up a PS2 might be one of the best game decisions you have ever done. The console has an excellent RPG catalog, and a lot of the games are cheap now.

Titles I recommend to pick up (RPG wise):
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy X-2 (Ignore the story, adore the battle system)
Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King
Steambot Chronicles (More of a action-RPG, but still a excellent title)
Persona 3 & 4
Tales of the Abyss
Final Fantasy XII (Plays more like a MMORPG)
 
[quote name='Gustav']Picking up a PS2 might be one of the best game decisions you have ever done. The console has an excellent RPG catalog, and a lot of the games are cheap now.

Titles I recommend to pick up (RPG wise):
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy X-2 (Ignore the story, adore the battle system)
Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King
Steambot Chronicles (More of a action-RPG, but still a excellent title)
Persona 3 & 4
Tales of the Abyss
Final Fantasy XII (Plays more like a MMORPG)[/QUOTE]

I did play and finish X and X-2 (agree the story for X-2 was OTT silly but some of the gameplay elements were seriously overlooked gems) and enjoyed both.

Really wanted/want to play DQ VIII. Those other titles are looking mightily tempting as well!
 
[quote name='leeloo1977']I did play and finish X and X-2 (agree the story for X-2 was OTT silly but some of the gameplay elements were seriously overlooked gems) and enjoyed both.

Really wanted/want to play DQ VIII. Those other titles are looking mightily tempting as well![/QUOTE]

Here are some more I forgot to mention:
Rogue Galaxy (Like FFXII but more of a hack n' slash)
Dark Cloud 1 & 2 (PS2's versions of Legend of Zelda)

and I think when Square-Enix was developing FFXIII, I think they stole some ideas from FF X-2, as a lot of the same gameplay styles are in it (besides the dress spheres)
 
[quote name='Gustav']and I think when Square-Enix was developing FFXIII, I think they stole some ideas from FF X-2, as a lot of the same gameplay styles are in it (besides the dress spheres)[/QUOTE]
It was the same dev team IIRC. XIII was the project they started immediately after wrapping X-2.
 
Xenosaga was ok (except for the overly long cutscenes). I loved/love the Suikoden & Dark Cloud series and would love to see sequels to both!!!

I took an extended break from FFXIII because I became bored with the linearity and complete lack of sidequests and mingames. I know it eventually opens up and is supposed to become fun but I didn't get that far. I do plan to go back to it eventually and even hopefully plat it but I don't ever want to play an RPG like it again. I think the reason it is so discordant to me is they said they wanted to target gamers who like FPS... well for the most part I strongly dislike FPS, and even if I didn't I would have a MASSIVE amount of actual FPS games to choose from, why the heck would I choose an RPG? What a strange game making decision.
 
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