Sarah Palin is McCain's Choice for VP

[quote name='Thomas96']no, I was just saying that, her heart tells that she wants to vote for hillary, but due to her being loyal to her party she can't. I wonder if she's under contract to vote for Rep. candidates.[/QUOTE]

Are you seriously that dumb?

She liked that a woman was so close to the presidency, but disliked her political positions. She'd be a superficial hack if she chose to support a candidate based solely on their gender, despite disagreeing with their policy.

I'm not supporting Palin or McCain, I think Palin is grossly underqualified for this job and I'm definitely voting Obama/Biden, but at this point you're just making shit up about her.
 
Myke I think you first have to realize that the market we think is a free market is not. There's all sorts of bias going on in it. Look at how China's currency is deliberately devalued. THAT gives them an edge instead of leaving it to the market. Bringing police in to break up demonstrations for a higher wage or to unionize, THAT'S tampering with the market(see China). You're bringing in an outside force that doesn't belong there and it's profoundly affecting the market. Frankly I also see something off-kilter about the fact Chinese goods can be so much cheaper when it's so much further to ship them you'd think it would be absurdly more expensive.
I mean the transportation costs are just so terribly wasteful when some products could be shipped around here. JMO. It's amazing how oil is such a double edged sword. Make it terribly more expensive and local products can truly compete with them because of shipping. Come up with some great, affordable green fuel or whatever and it comes back to getting shipped from China AGAIN!
 
[quote name='sgs89']You've missed the most simple connection -- each was a pick of a woman just for the sake of picking a woman with little or no regard paid to qualifications. Bush wanted to pick a woman to replace Sandra Day O'Connor and McCain wanted to pick a woman to woo Clinton voters. They both did so and by-passed much more qualified choices, women and men alike. In their thinking, one woman is as good as any other.

My point wasn't about cronyism it was about pandering with little thought about qualifications.

Think before you criticize, please.[/QUOTE]

So you actually do mean that both are women? How ridiculous. Why do you think she's unqualified? What makes her unqualified but Barack Obama, someone with less executive experience, qualified? Or maybe you've bought into the partisan attack line against people from small towns or those who haven't been spending their entire lives trying to get reelected (hello Joe Biden).
 
[quote name='elprincipe'] What makes her unqualified but Barack Obama, someone with less executive experience, qualified?[/QUOTE]

Keep grasping prince, you will get those straws one day.
 
[quote name='Koggit']DailyKos is trash, it's like a tabloid.[/QUOTE]

And you're telling me tabloids aren't acceptable venues for political discussion?

Let's see if you still feel that way when the Batboy/Elvis Presley ticket is on the ballots. :nottalking:

I know it's junk, but I thought it did make a few interesting points - namely, I don't know anyone who's managed to hide a pregnancy successfully for seven months.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Site source please.[/quote]

[quote name='thenockmlb']McCain opposing equal pay for equal work... http://www.senate.gov/legislative/L...ote_cfm.cfm?congress=106&session=2&vote=00203

After that, you proved you can not have a serious discussion about the issue, throwing around ridiculous buzzwords. Thank you for letting us know that.[/quote]

Just to show he's consistent, here's one from this year: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/23/mccain-opposes-equal-pay-_n_98342.html

Do your research before you get cocky, Thrust.

[quote name='thrustbucket']But you have to admit that the Democratic rallying cry of the last decade or two is something akin to "What can your government do for you?". Meanwhile, the Republicans just start wars, grow the military, and toss billions at contractors we don't need while smiling with their hands behind their back saying "See, we didn't grow government!"[/quote]

I'm down with your assessment of the Republicans, but last time I checked, the government was a lot smaller under Clinton, the federal budget was balanced for the first time in decades, and we had huge surpluses.

The old arguments simply don't hold up.

[quote name='Gothic Walrus']Daily Kos has a page up now making the argument that Sarah Palin's most recent child isn't hers, and actually belongs to her sixteen year old daughter.[/quote]

The real tragedy?

John Edwards is the father.
 
[quote name='Tybee']Just to show he's consistent, here's one from this year: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/23/mccain-opposes-equal-pay-_n_98342.html

Do your research before you get cocky, Thrust.[/quote]
Oh nonsense. Saying that opposing that bill is opposing equal pay for women is like saying that if you support flag burning, you don't support the flag.

This sort of attack is politics 101. Inaccurate, out of context, and shameful.

Now if you want to say McCain doesn't have respect for women because he called his wife a 'cunt', then there is a discussion.



I'm down with your assessment of the Republicans, but last time I checked, the government was a lot smaller under Clinton, the federal budget was balanced for the first time in decades, and we had huge surpluses.

The old arguments simply don't hold up.
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Sigh. No they certainly do not, especially when you just used a few in that paragraph that are long shot down in other threads. Perhaps it is you that should do your research about what exactly was balanced in the 90's and the real reason it was, how the numbers were calculated, and how ultimately inconsequential it was.

The lie won't die.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Oh nonsense. Saying that opposing that bill is opposing equal pay for women is like saying that if you support flag burning, you don't support the flag.

This sort of attack is politics 101. Inaccurate, out of context, and shameful.

Now if you want to say McCain doesn't have respect for women because he called his wife a 'cunt', then there is a discussion.[/quote]

Well, that too. We could also talk about the horribly shady way in which he cut his first wife loose. But why revisit the obvious?

Frankly, I think the plainest evidence of his disdain for and cynical view of women was his selection of Palin.
 
Tybee! Hey man, when are you getting a PSN id? I'd like to add you.

I also agree. I mean the ONLY reason a woman on the left would vote for her is if she only cares about the breasts and vagina, not her stance on issues.
 
[quote name='Sarang01']Myke I think you first have to realize that the market we think is a free market is not. There's all sorts of bias going on in it. Look at how China's currency is deliberately devalued. THAT gives them an edge instead of leaving it to the market. Bringing police in to break up demonstrations for a higher wage or to unionize, THAT'S tampering with the market(see China). You're bringing in an outside force that doesn't belong there and it's profoundly affecting the market. Frankly I also see something off-kilter about the fact Chinese goods can be so much cheaper when it's so much further to ship them you'd think it would be absurdly more expensive.
I mean the transportation costs are just so terribly wasteful when some products could be shipped around here. JMO. It's amazing how oil is such a double edged sword. Make it terribly more expensive and local products can truly compete with them because of shipping. Come up with some great, affordable green fuel or whatever and it comes back to getting shipped from China AGAIN![/quote]

The government subsidizes transportation costs through exemptions. Take away the exemption and local production of almost everything would increase.
 
[quote name='Gothic Walrus']And you're telling me tabloids aren't acceptable venues for political discussion?

Let's see if you still feel that way when the Batboy/Elvis Presley ticket is on the ballots. :nottalking:

I know it's junk, but I thought it did make a few interesting points - namely, I don't know anyone who's managed to hide a pregnancy successfully for seven months.
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Occam's razor would certainly have something to say about that and the plane ride etc.
 
The chances of 16 year old popping out a Downs Syndrome baby are 1 in 2000. For a 40+ year old, they are 1 in 50.

However, those pictures on the Daily Kos aren't of a 7 month pregnant woman on her FIFTH baby unless she has never had a C-Section, does 3000 crunches a day and has a titanium girdle on underneath.
 
[quote name='Sarang01']Tybee! Hey man, when are you getting a PSN id? I'd like to add you.

I also agree. I mean the ONLY reason a woman on the left would vote for her is if she only cares about the breasts and vagina, not her stance on issues.[/quote]

I guess as soon as I get a PS3, which isn't likely to be any time soon.

I have to say, this whole "the baby isn't hers!" thing seems incredibly specious and in poor taste to me. These are exactly the kinds of attacks we don't need. Even if it were true, which seems highly unlikely, it would be a family matter, not a political one.
 
I think that the whole thing is a lot of shit personally. I mean, the "proof" is very limited to a couple of photos of her daughter with a marginal belly. Hate to break it to you, but a lot of girls look like that in tight shirts.

I think the more questionable thing was Palin waiting till month 7 to announce it, but given the genetic defects and such, I would imagine the likelyhood of a miscarriage was probably high. Might not want to be so quick to tell everyone until you're sure it's not going to miscarry (which would be the 3rd trimester, aka month 7)
 
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A heartbeat away from the presidency... ;)
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Well I think that pic proves she'd at least be popular in Europe.[/QUOTE]

God damn. Seeing that pic....wow just wow. Where did you get that? You sure it isnt a fake? If not before I thought she was attractive as far as middle aged politicians go.....but God damn now I just want to take her for a ride.
 
[quote name='SpazX']Pic looks fake, and weird.[/QUOTE]

Sad thing it looks familar too.....and iv seen enough porn that I might know it for a reason.
 
McCain's wife, Cindy, joined the ranks of the defenders. "The experience that she comes from is with what she's done in the government. And also, remember: Alaska is the closest part of our continent to Russia. So, it's not as if she doesn't understand what's at stake here," she said on ABC's "This Week."
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Cindy raises an excellent, excellent point.
 
[quote name='Koggit']Cindy raises an excellent, excellent point.[/QUOTE]

Sometimes you just want to slap people. Before she opens her mouth again she needs to figure out how many houses that she has and inform her husband.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']Sometimes you just want to slap people. Before she opens her mouth again she needs to figure out how many houses that she has and inform her husband.[/QUOTE]

That's what you get for letting a woman talk in public, you know.
 
[quote name='Koggit']
McCain's wife, Cindy, joined the ranks of the defenders. "The experience that she comes from is with what she's done in the government. And also, remember: Alaska is the closest part of our continent to Russia. So, it's not as if she doesn't understand what's at stake here," she said on ABC's "This Week."
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Cindy raises an excellent, excellent point.[/quote]

I watched that and literally could not stop laughing. And she wasn't the first. Before her Linsey Graham and Rudy Giuliani (on Meet the Press) tried to pass the same line off on Bob Scheiffer, who was having none of it. He literally was laughing and shaking his head at them.

Who do they think they're fooling?
 
[quote name='Tybee']I guess as soon as I get a PS3, which isn't likely to be any time soon.

I have to say, this whole "the baby isn't hers!" thing seems incredibly specious and in poor taste to me. These are exactly the kinds of attacks we don't need. Even if it were true, which seems highly unlikely, it would be a family matter, not a political one.[/QUOTE]

Like I said before Occam's razor, it is entirely possible the baby was gestating in some unused tupperware outside her body but...

Also this.

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[quote name='Tybee']Bigger, please.[/QUOTE]

Working on it.

That is probably as big as it is gonna get, try downloading it and zooming in.
 
[quote name='Msut77']Working on it.

That is probably as big as it is gonna get, try downloading it and zooming in.[/quote]

I did. It's too pixelated to read.
 
[quote name='freakyzeeky']
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A heartbeat away from the presidency... ;)[/quote]

"Governor, I TIVOed 'Commander in Chief': I loved Geena Davis; I've even fapped to a couple episodes. Governor, you're no Geena Davis."
 
[quote name='Msut77']Like I said before Occam's razor, it is entirely possible the baby was gestating in some unused tupperware outside her body but...

Also this.

sarahpalinla4.png
[/quote]Wow...:lol:
 
The current breaking news headline on Cnn.com

"Bristol Palin, 17-year-old daughter of Sarah Palin, is pregnant and will keep the baby and marry the father, a senior McCain aide confirms."

Kind of interesting, given the blog crap already about Palin's youngest child possibly being her grandchild.

Not that I care. And I hope this shit doesn't blow up in the media. And Obama's camp better not go near any of it after his speech calling strongly for an end to personal attacks on character etc. in politics.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']The current breaking news headline on Cnn.com

"Bristol Palin, 17-year-old daughter of Sarah Palin, is pregnant and will keep the baby and marry the father, a senior McCain aide confirms."

Kind of interesting, given the blog crap already about Palin's youngest child possibly being her grandchild.

Not that I care. And I hope this shit doesn't blow up in the media. And Obama's camp better not go near any of it after his speech calling strongly for an end to personal attacks on character etc. in politics.[/quote]

Just saw this. Unbelievable.

Obama won't HAVE to go near this. Nor will his surrogates. It speaks for itself. It basically puts Palin on par with Mama Spears.

It just feeds into the growing perception of McCain/Palin as the Hot Mess Ticket.
 
I'm not sure why what her daughter does is big news. It has almost nothing to do with Palin, your ma spears comparison is totally ridiculous.

Did Cheney's daughter put him on par with Ru Paul?
 
I think the crazy bloggers that attack people have no shame. If it's used as a smear campaign (which I'm guessing it will in a 511 ad) it will truly be disgusting. They're (bloggers) already attacking her about having the baby with down syndrome.
 
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