Sega has Cut Yakuza 3 content, Listings of entire Cuts now available.

[quote name='phantasyx']you wouldn't have to do so many substories if there were hostess clubs. You get experience from those as well but...I guess you do.

I'm thinking about making a thread for Kenzan, anyone down? If someone has one already I will linger over.[/QUOTE]

So Kenzan is not in the US right? I'm game for any future Yakuza's or the like.

I found a Dr. in Tokyo where you play some VR game. Don't know if it gives you a ton of experience...

Anyway, I'm actually enjoying the sub stories, so it's fine so far...
 
[quote name='jh6269']So Kenzan is not in the US right? I'm game for any future Yakuza's or the like.

I found a Dr. in Tokyo where you play some VR game. Don't know if it gives you a ton of experience...

Anyway, I'm actually enjoying the sub stories, so it's fine so far...[/QUOTE]

You also get exp when you eat food in a restaurant, so save your energy drinks for story missions and just eat at restaurants while youre getting into random fights.

You may also be overestimating how much you need the exp. I usually play through the game without upgrading anything until I get stuck, so that when I finally upgrade I can get 3 or 4 levels at a time. I think with Yakuza 2 I made it all the way to chapter 8 before my first upgrade. Yakuza 1 was a bit earlier, but thats because I was new to the mechanics.

THe hostess clubs didnt really give a lot of experience and they take just as much time as the regular substories (if not more, if you are not using a guide to know exactly what each woman wants). I also recall them taking a lot of money for basically the same reason.
 
^ Yeah, I just like to level up so I can feel like a badass and also see the new moves.

The guy you fight in Stardust, from the demo, was a breeze for me in the real game.

Saw the Yakuza 4 trailers on gametrailers; I really hope we get it here...

I'm really loving this game.
 
some guy on youtube is subbing some of the cut seens of Kenzan on youtube. I watched one and I really hate him because they are done so well and I want the game now...
 
[quote name='TctclMvPhase']You also get exp when you eat food in a restaurant, so save your energy drinks for story missions and just eat at restaurants while youre getting into random fights.

You may also be overestimating how much you need the exp. I usually play through the game without upgrading anything until I get stuck, so that when I finally upgrade I can get 3 or 4 levels at a time. I think with Yakuza 2 I made it all the way to chapter 8 before my first upgrade. Yakuza 1 was a bit earlier, but thats because I was new to the mechanics.

THe hostess clubs didnt really give a lot of experience and they take just as much time as the regular substories (if not more, if you are not using a guide to know exactly what each woman wants). I also recall them taking a lot of money for basically the same reason.[/QUOTE]

Huh. I'll have to take note of that. Because I'm at the stage where I need 75, 110 or 160 levels to level up one of my abilities. I haven't gone to any restaurant, but usually goto one of those convenient stores to get some sushi. That really brings my health up.
 
We gotta BELIEVE if we want to see some of this in our future

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[quote name='Paco']We gotta BELIEVE if we want to see some of this in our future

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The thing we can do as fans is spread it through word of mouth. Through message boards, friends, etc. So that people are dying to play this game and force Sega to print more copies. Because what I would love to see (not including the sequel and spinoff), is a god of war collection treatment for the first two. I don't have a ps2 anymore and my ps3 isn't BC :cry:.

Even though Sega cut things out of this game, the game is still awesome as hell. I'd love to see the missing parts added through dlc sometime in the future. But that's up to us. The Fans.
 
Well, I sent off my letter to Sega today just to tell them that I pre-ordered and bought Yakuza 3. I mentioned that it's the first Yakuza game I've ever played and I'm now a Yakuza fan. Also asked them to bring Yakuza 4 here, and if they couldn't do that, to at least put English subtitles in the Japanese game so I can import it.

Sega's been e-mailing me now, and at the bottom of every e-mail it says:
Send us comments to: Sega of America, 350 Rhode Island Street, Suite 400, San Francisco, CA 94103.

Just for anyone who wants to do the same.
 
[quote name='defmonkey05']The thing we can do as fans is spread it through word of mouth. Through message boards, friends, etc. So that people are dying to play this game and force Sega to print more copies. Because what I would love to see (not including the sequel and spinoff), is a god of war collection treatment for the first two. I don't have a ps2 anymore and my ps3 isn't BC :cry:.

Even though Sega cut things out of this game, the game is still awesome as hell. I'd love to see the missing parts added through dlc sometime in the future. But that's up to us. The Fans.[/QUOTE]

There's no way they'd re-release the first two in a GoW-like collection. There simply isn't any demand for it. There really aren't many games that are tailor-made for that sort of treatment, and the only one I could think of that is feasible and would build interest for an upcoming game is an ICO collection.
 
[quote name='Feeding the Abscess']There's no way they'd re-release the first two in a GoW-like collection. There simply isn't any demand for it. There really aren't many games that are tailor-made for that sort of treatment, and the only one I could think of that is feasible and would build interest for an upcoming game is an ICO collection.[/QUOTE]

You're right. There isn't a demand for it. But if we keep emailing/writing Sega, spread this game through word of mouth about this game and hopefully Yakuza 4 will come over Stateside. Then there could be a chance to build up steam with Yakuza 4 with great ad campaign, a release date that isn't over crowded with other AAA titles that a GoW treatment could be possible. But right now? No of course not. But if sales do well or better and Sega starts thinking about releasing the sequel here, then who knows. And I would love to see an ICO collection.

[quote name='jh6269']Well, I sent off my letter to Sega today just to tell them that I pre-ordered and bought Yakuza 3. I mentioned that it's the first Yakuza game I've ever played and I'm now a Yakuza fan. Also asked them to bring Yakuza 4 here, and if they couldn't do that, to at least put English subtitles in the Japanese game so I can import it.

Sega's been e-mailing me now, and at the bottom of every e-mail it says:
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Send us comments to: Sega of America, 350 Rhode Island Street, Suite 400, San Francisco, CA 94103. Just for anyone who wants to do the same.[/QUOTE]

That's great! I'm gonna do the same and let my friends know about this, so they can let Sega know that we care about this game!
 
[quote name='Paco']We gotta BELIEVE if we want to see some of this in our future

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I believe!

[quote name='phantasyx']Take that picture and cut out 2 guys at random and then it will resonate with me sega.[/QUOTE]

Wow.
 
[quote name='phantasyx']Take that picture and cut out 2 guys at random and then it will resonate with me sega.[/QUOTE]

Wow...someone actually wants Sega to cut out material from the originally version? :shock:

Color me bamboozled (I think it's a lighter cyan...like my avatar....)
 
[quote name='Ecofreak']Wow...someone actually wants Sega to cut out material from the originally version? :shock:

Color me bamboozled (I think it's a lighter cyan...like my avatar....)[/QUOTE]

LOL I think you guys missed the joke. He was making a reference to the yakuza 3 cuts, that were made because "Americans wouldn't understand".
 
[quote name='TomJones4']No Yakuza is not a successor to Shenmue.
Yakuza is good but its not close to Shenmue, nothing ever will be.[/QUOTE]

^ This is gospel truth.

Are we still supposed to be bitching about cut content?

I'm 21 hours in, middle of mission 10, and only 20% complete when I check my stats.

Yeah, yeah, cut content stinks, but FFS y'all, grow the fuck up.
 
lol someone actually took me seriously wow...

Save your breath thinking that a Yakuza 1 and yakuza 2 would be re released on a blu ray disc. Actual documents have shown that sega is more interested in putting both those games on the PSN (look up leaked sega docs.)

Last time I heard a game was going to get GOW 1 + 2 blu ray treatment was for Ico and Shadow of Collosus, I guessing we all can agree those 2 games need it more then yakuza. I don't want to waste anymore money with Sega anywho..
 
[quote name='mykevermin']^ This is gospel truth.

Are we still supposed to be bitching about cut content?

I'm 21 hours in, middle of mission 10, and only 20% complete when I check my stats.

Yeah, yeah, cut content stinks, but FFS y'all, grow the fuck up.[/QUOTE]
I'm guessing your a republican.
 
[quote name='phantasyx']Save your breath thinking that a Yakuza 1 and yakuza 2 would be re released on a blu ray disc. Actual documents have shown that sega is more interested in putting both those games on the PSN (look up leaked sega docs.)[/QUOTE]

That's no skin off my back. Bluray Disc/psn, either would be great! It'd probably be easier with psn though, just cut out the retailer. I would like to have english subtitles though or atleast a choice.
 
Frankly, I'd rather play Yakuza 4 than 1 & 2--especially since I've seen what the story was in 1 & 2 from the movies at the beginning of the 3rd game.

I've been playing since roughly 8ish and I just quit about 20 minutes ago (4 AM). Even with the cut content, there's more than enough game here. Doing the hitman missions now...

Oh, and the tranny chased me again and I got away this time, but no special silent shoes... how many times do I have to go through it to get them?

Also, any ideas on how to get the 35 million yen (or whatever the number is) trophy? I somehow got some gems that were black, red, and green, and I was able to use them on the roulette table to make around 3.5 million yen...
 
[quote name='phantasyx']We should all vote on it.[/QUOTE]

Then my vote is with myke. How does not complaining over five minutes of cut content make him a Republican. I just picked up the game and I'm glad I did. I actually did hold off because of the cut content debate but I rather just play a good game with a couple missing minigames or sidequests than not play it at all.
 
Well, don't get me wrong. I was certainly upset at first. Sega's blundered the release of this game in ways that you can't help but come to the conclusion that it was done intentionally (so they can not bother bringing 4 over).

But I think that there's a certain point where you are happy with the game you get and get it, or you remain unhappy with the game you are offered and don't get it. I opted for trying out the former - the game is still dozens of hours of content (well over 60, it appears), and the overall proportion of content negligible.

So I was bothered at first, but it's not like I called my Senator over the damned thing. I have enough going on in my life that there's not room for a long-term grudge with a video game company.

By the by, I know hundreds of people who would laugh their asses off at the mere idea that I'd be called a Republican. Just sayin'.
 
[quote name='jh6269']Frankly, I'd rather play Yakuza 4 than 1 & 2--especially since I've seen what the story was in 1 & 2 from the movies at the beginning of the 3rd game.

I've been playing since roughly 8ish and I just quit about 20 minutes ago (4 AM). Even with the cut content, there's more than enough game here. Doing the hitman missions now...

Oh, and the tranny chased me again and I got away this time, but no special silent shoes... how many times do I have to go through it to get them?

Also, any ideas on how to get the 35 million yen (or whatever the number is) trophy? I somehow got some gems that were black, red, and green, and I was able to use them on the roulette table to make around 3.5 million yen...[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't mind playing the first two, but def. want to play yakuza 4 and try out Kenzen! now.

Some of those Hitman missions can be a bitch. I would suggest having some sort of swat/bullet proof armor for the later missions.
Some twat was using an Uzi on me, the bastard.

The tranny mission I think I got chased three times in Tokyo. It was all random. The third time when you get chased multiple of times is when you get the shoes,
but you get chased by 'her' 'sisters' as well.
That was actually a pretty funny substory when he comes to the ending. When you get Purgatory open, you should have the chance to talk to Mack at Park Blvd. Right where the Casino is at.
and he'll have some chase games at Purgatory that increase your stamina and tackling power and also special prizes if you beat his record.

You could exchange your chips for yen? I have around 51,000 chips and only thought I could exchange it for those cheap prizes. I did the same thing on the casino floor, lol. Went to the Black Jack table, used the items I found then did the same at Roulette and Texas Hold 'Em. The only gambling game I'm going to have problems with is Koi Koi. I still can't understand that game :cold:.
 
[quote name='Thongsy']Then my vote is with myke. How does not complaining over five minutes of cut content make him a Republican. I just picked up the game and I'm glad I did. I actually did hold off because of the cut content debate but I rather just play a good game with a couple missing minigames or sidequests than not play it at all.[/QUOTE]
Hey Um where have you been since the last 20 some pages worth of replies? Even Myke knew it was just a joke dude and there is way more then 5 minutes more like 5-10+ hours but thanks for adding nothing.
 
[quote name='defmonkey05']You could exchange your chips for yen? I have around 51,000 chips and only thought I could exchange it for those cheap prizes. I did the same thing on the casino floor, lol. Went to the Black Jack table, used the items I found then did the same at Roulette and Texas Hold 'Em. The only gambling game I'm going to have problems with is Koi Koi. I still can't understand that game :cold:.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I had about 40,000 chips. I had a red stone and a black stone, you can only bet a max of 1,000 chips all on red or black. So I did that twice. Then, I used my green "zero" stone to place 1,000 chips all on single zero. That won be like 38,000 chips. I took all the chips and traded all of them in for Platinum discs. I took the Platinum discs to the pawn shop and sold them for $150,000 a piece.

So, I had 40,000 chips, if I bought all platinum discs, I could have got 26 discs. Sold 26 discs for 150,000, I would have 3.9 million yen. I bought other stuff and kept it (demon stone and some other stuff that's worth a ton of money), so right now, I have 3.2 million.

So, since you have 51,000 chips, you can get 34 Platinum discs and sell them at the pawn shop and get 5,100,000 yen.

I do have some other stuff, like some piss mountain stone and some other stone that makes your opponent roll a certain number, like 1,2,3 and 4,5,6. Dunno how to use those quite yet b/c I don't know how to play Cee-lo. And I have a blackjack card that gives me good hands, but I'm afraid that I'll lose. Any ideas?
 
[quote name='phantasyx']Hey Um where have you been since the last 20 some pages worth of replies? Even Myke knew it was just a joke dude and there is way more then 5 minutes more like 5-10+ hours but thanks for adding nothing.[/QUOTE]

Have you bought the game or just plainly bitching about these 5-10 hours? I'm around 50 some odd hours in, 50 substories finished, 14-15 HLA missions finished, Coliseum complete, and not even close to completing my Heat actions, minigames or really alot of things on my completion stats. Does it suck that there's a piece of the game missing? (and compared to how much time one can put in the game really makes these 5-10 hours seem really small) Yes, but if one could put 60 hours plus into the game and still miss alot of things and have different difficulties and settings to replay make it really a bad thing? Not in my opinion.

The more people that buy the game and chime to Sega about the missing content and want it added dlc, the better. But the ones that are butthurt on the outside looking in at the ones that are enjoying the game to the fullest is just a sad, sad thing. :roll:
 
[quote name='defmonkey05']Have you bought the game or just plainly bitching about these 5-10 hours? I'm around 50 some odd hours in, 50 substories finished, 14-15 HLA missions finished, Coliseum complete, and not even close to completing my Heat actions, minigames or really alot of things on my completion stats. Does it suck that there's a piece of the game missing? (and compared to how much time one can put in the game really makes these 5-10 hours seem really small) Yes, but if one could put 60 hours plus into the game and still miss alot of things and have different difficulties and settings to replay make it really a bad thing? Not in my opinion.

The more people that buy the game and chime to Sega about the missing content and want it added dlc, the better. But the ones that are butthurt on the outside looking in at the ones that are enjoying the game to the fullest is just a sad, sad thing. :roll:[/QUOTE]
You too must be Republican. Of course I own it, not saying this game sucks but it hasn't caught my attention enough to play it because of Bioshock 2, GOW 3, FF13 that are currently clouding my interest to really get into it like I would. I'm not going to sit around and play a incomplete game and let Sega potentially fuck up Kenzan or Yakuza 4. I'm going to sit around and get other people to compain about it so more content gets put in and it catches my interest again. Nuff said.
 
[quote name='jh6269']Yeah, I had about 40,000 chips. I had a red stone and a black stone, you can only bet a max of 1,000 chips all on red or black. So I did that twice. Then, I used my green "zero" stone to place 1,000 chips all on single zero. That won be like 38,000 chips. I took all the chips and traded all of them in for Platinum discs. I took the Platinum discs to the pawn shop and sold them for $150,000 a piece.

So, I had 40,000 chips, if I bought all platinum discs, I could have got 26 discs. Sold 26 discs for 150,000, I would have 3.9 million yen. I bought other stuff and kept it (demon stone and some other stuff that's worth a ton of money), so right now, I have 3.2 million.

So, since you have 51,000 chips, you can get 34 Platinum discs and sell them at the pawn shop and get 5,100,000 yen.

I do have some other stuff, like some piss mountain stone and some other stone that makes your opponent roll a certain number, like 1,2,3 and 4,5,6. Dunno how to use those quite yet b/c I don't know how to play Cee-lo. And I have a blackjack card that gives me good hands, but I'm afraid that I'll lose. Any ideas?[/QUOTE]

Cee-lo, I had to lose alot to finally understand the game. If the banker rolls a 1-2-3, they pay 4x the betted amount or something like that. But basically the game of Cee-lo, you roll the three dice and you're trying to get doubles with two of them and the unmatched die is your point. 1 is the lowest, 6 is the highest. But you can also get triples as well. I'm not sure but I think three 1's (or ace out) beats trips 6. And 4-5-6 is a winning combination, but I'm not sure if that's the lowest of the trips and ace out. And if you roll a 1-2-3 or get no point on your 3 rolls you automatically lose. If you haven't found this guide on the net, its really helpful.
ThePatrick Yakuza 3 Guide

It explains alot in full detail. Locker keys being one of them, because there's alot of things to use that you get from the lockers like the 1-1-1 slip that'll make you roll a ace out. And I would use that when I'm the banker, because they pay out 4x or use it when you're betting a 1000, because I think the banker pays out 4x, not sure.

And goto the high stakes black jack table in Purgatory right where the Coliseum is at. There you can bet a thousand. And using that lucky card will give you black jack for 5-7 turns or something. And there'll be a time where the dealer gives you a challenge and you can get 3x the betted amount and if you're still on that lucky card (when the triangle button pops back up on screen that'll tell you its worn off) take the challenge and you'll automatically win the challenge with a blackjack.

I've completed all the casino challenges with those items I found in the lockers, and Cee-Lo as well. Koi-Koi, the evens/odds dice game and a couple others I'm still working on.

Hope this helps!

[quote name='phantasyx']You too must be Republican. Of course I own it, not saying this game sucks but it hasn't caught my attention enough to play it because of Bioshock 2, GOW 3, FF13 that are currently clouding my interest to really get into it like I would. I'm not going to sit around and play a incomplete game and let Sega potentially fuck up Kenzan or Yakuza 4. I'm going to sit around and get other people to compain about it so more content gets put in and it catches my interest again. Nuff said.[/QUOTE]

Honestly, what does my party affiliation have to do with liking this game or not because of content being cut. I'd like to know this. GoW3 took me 10 hours to beat on normal, and I'm going through a Titan run, but getting my ass handed to me fighting Hades right now. I usually play it a couple hours a night. FFXIII I haven't touched in a week, Yakuza 3 has most of my full attention, I just got to Chapter 9 in FFXIII. Haven't played Bioshock 2, but want to badly. But having others to do the work for you while you sit and wait, that sounds like the perfect thing for you, keep at it. You're doing a great job. :cool:
 
[quote name='Dead of Knight']About as likely as this:
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That's what everyone said about Yakuza 3 coming to the US. But it managed to get here somehow. The fact that Y3 sold more then 1 and 2 in America alone shows that there's some people wanting it. Plus there's always the fact that Sega does it FOR THE LULZ so they might release Y4 if their profits or too high for a year, if they're bored, if they want fans to shut up, if EA makes Mutant League Football, if Microsoft charges more for live, if Sony makes a profitable PS3. So by the accounts of Sega, Yakuza 4 is in the bag.
 
I should be Starting Yakuza 3 now because I've platinumed GOW3 and Bioshock 2 I'll give my real opinion of the game once I actually play and beat it.

I don't really care too much about Yakuza 4 just yet because I didn't like 2 of the characters in the demo (Prison guy and little boy) but if they released Kenzan and made some cuts I would be just so disheartened and sad because I love me some ancient Japan.
 
[quote name='Paco']Y3 sold more then 1 and 2 in America alone[/QUOTE]

Where's your proof?

The rest of y'all, just go play Yakuza 3. One of the most dramatic game stories I've played in ages - it's not unique or innovative storywise, but damn it does it well.
 
VGChartz.com says 48,000 + possibly another 20,000 from PAL regions but its not at all specific and could be 100% fake so Paco please tell everyone where you got that.
 
[quote name='phantasyx']VGChartz.com says 48,000 + possibly another 20,000 from PAL regions but its not at all specific and could be 100% fake so Paco please tell everyone where you got that.[/QUOTE]

I work for Sega. That's how I know. But didn't the original Yakuza 2 sell under 30k in the English speaking world due to no advertising and launching it in the PS2's twilight? And the original Yakuza was like what 50-60k? Both previous Yakuza games bombed.

But in all honesty its just speculation. But the fact that this game charted while previous yakuza games didn't even chart anywhere has to mean it at least sold more then Yakuza 1 or 2. Probably more then both of those. Who really knows though. Better ask the dreamcast. It's thinking.
 
[quote name='phantasyx']You too must be Republican. Of course I own it, not saying this game sucks but it hasn't caught my attention enough to play it because of Bioshock 2, GOW 3, FF13 that are currently clouding my interest to really get into it like I would. I'm not going to sit around and play a incomplete game and let Sega potentially fuck up Kenzan or Yakuza 4. I'm going to sit around and get other people to compain about it so more content gets put in and it catches my interest again. Nuff said.[/QUOTE]

Wow, you need to relax. We are talking about a video game, after all.
 
[quote name='Paco']I work for Sega. That's how I know. But didn't the original Yakuza 2 sell under 30k in the English speaking world due to no advertising and launching it in the PS2's twilight? And the original Yakuza was like what 50-60k? Both previous Yakuza games bombed.

But in all honesty its just speculation. But the fact that this game charted while previous yakuza games didn't even chart anywhere has to mean it at least sold more then Yakuza 1 or 2. Probably more then both of those. Who really knows though. Better ask the dreamcast. It's thinking.[/QUOTE]
If you seriously work for Sega (which I don't really believe because you just said that working there was proof enough then said that you weren't really sure if it actally sold well) then you have some explaining to do, not just for my Jackassness but for everyone else who want some answers on what happened with Yakuza 3, why cuts were made and the future of the series.
 
It sucks that Sega cut some of the mini-games out (especially the hostess bar one) despite the cuts though, Yakuza 3 is an excellent game and it's packed with a ton of things to do.

Everyone remotely interested in Yakuza 3 should pick up a copy and then we can hopefully get Yakuza 4 and the prequel over here sooner, rather than later.
 
^ Yeah, I agree. Also, the demo was terrible. Please do not judge this game merely on the demo. It's so much better than what was shown in the demo.
 
I haven't played the previous Yakuza games but the demo, videos, and combat (and it's finisher [reminds me of the old side scrolling beat em' ups]) has me interested in this. Would I be completely lost on the story? I know there's a recap if you opt for it, is it enough to fill me in?
 
[quote name='Frank Deluded']I haven't played the previous Yakuza games but the demo, videos, and combat (and it's finisher [reminds me of the old side scrolling beat em' ups]) has me interested in this. Would I be completely lost on the story? I know there's a recap if you opt for it, is it enough to fill me in?[/QUOTE]

i think the recap does a good job summing up alot of the events from the previous games. id say just pay attention to the characters it introduces, cause some of them will make a return. even if the game didn't explain anything, the story stands pretty well on its own and you shouldn't be totally lost (unless you're just not paying attention!)
 
It's insane just how bad Sega of America has screwed this one up. They really owe it to everyone who bought this game a FREE patch that restores (most) everything they cut or at least corrects the amount of EXP. you get for missions. There's just no excuse for this kind of stuff to happen in the year 2010. Does Sega not know their target audience for this game or what?
 
Quoted from GFAQs, this dude has an account there and made a post about it:

"I thought you guys may want to know. I'm Nick Pantazis, I'm a writer and senior editor for VGChartz.com. I visited Sega's offices at GDC last week, and talked to them about the game directly. Two things were confirmed to me, which you'll probably be interested in:

One: Sega knows you're ****ed, but this was the only way the bigwigs would let them localize it at all, was if they limited the budget costs of the localization. Yakuza 1 and 2 were bombs for them in the west. They will consider doing things differently in the future. They actually read message boards like this. No, seriously. They check the internet for reactions. That said, if you just forgo buying it entirely, you're not getting anything else again.

Two: Sega will not be localizing Yakuza 4 at all if Yakuza 3 doesn't see solid sales. It's expensive, and time-consuming, and they have many much more successful franchises they can devote time to. For them to devote any time at all to giving us these games at this point is pure fanservice. Getting it used isn't going to help either. If you actually care about the franchise, I suggest you buy it. Also, there is a misconception that the removal of the hostess club meant the removal of the hostesses themselves. This is not the case. They are still in the game, and dateable.

As a side note, as someone playing the game it's excellent. I have a review copy I've been working on the past few days, and yes, some stuff has been removed, but there are still countless hours of content, a great story, great combat, tons of new locations around Japan to explore, and the Yakuza feeling is absolutely in tact. Skip if if you wish, but understand you yourself are signing the death of this franchise. A boycott of this game doesn't stop Sega from localizing differently next time. It stops them from localizing at all, ever again."

"They aren't threatening people. It's a business reality. The fact of gaming is that things that make money get made. I really enjoy this franchise. I'm posting this because I want people to make a mature and educated purchase decision, rather than the consumer equivalent of "holding your own breath till you pass out like a silly child." What you post will effect Sega's decisions about how they handle localization in the future, but what you buy will not. That will only effect whether you get it or not at all.

Your suggestion that Atlas should localize instead is extremely unlikely, for many reasons, not the least of which is that it costs a lot of money to buy localization rights off a company, especially for a late game in a franchise. In fact I've never seen it done. Do you have any examples of a 3rd or 4th game in a franchise being sold to a new publisher for localization? Especially a small publisher like Atlus. Perhaps you didn't notice, but their finances are deep in the toilet right now. They just reported a $24 million loss..."

I disagree with what he said about Atlus a little, considering Sakura Wars is being brought over by NIS, but then it's not the 4th game released in the US either....>.>

EDIT: Here's his prediction for sales needed for 4:

"I can't say for sure. I know it takes a long time to translate as much text as you find in a lengthy RPG, and the amount you pay staff for a year or so of localization work isn't cheap. However, Yakuza 3 has already sold almost as much as Yakuza 2 did lifetime in North America, in its first week. Almost 50K. That's a pretty damn good start. My guess is 150K-200K would probably cover localization costs, and constitute enough growth to consider future localization worth it, but don't hold that as absolute."

All from the Sega Forums
 
^ OK, that is NOT an example of how to do business. You push a product and let the numbers speak for themselves. You don't, however, risk losing sales by cutting stuff out. People who buy Yakuza 3 will typically be fans familiar with the previous 2 games in the series and who usually read stuff online before buying games. If Sega doesn't want to release Yakuza 4 stateside because the sales aren't good enough, fine, but for Yakuza 3 they should have included everything upon release.
 
All else I really have to say is I'm happy for Yakuza 3, disappointed but happy I at least get to play it with Subs. I still think its very important to speak out and send letters and burn up the forums when things like this happen because companies do feel the heat. I am guessing that upon sucessful sales, which most likely will happen, Yakuza 4 will be given a shot and they know full well of what happened with Yakuza 3 and the backlash of removing content.

At this point any hostess action is close to nil. If they don't got the money to do it, they simply don't have it. I do feel it is isn't worth bothering to import a copy to play the complete game. There just isn't enough material to do it over, then again, its enough to piss a lot of people off (pretty much everybody who even had a passing interest).

I hope Kenzan is given a chance, even though its even older then Yakuza 3. But who knows...
 
[quote name='a wolf at fullmoon']^ OK, that is NOT an example of how to do business. You push a product and let the numbers speak for themselves. You don't, however, risk losing sales by cutting stuff out. People who buy Yakuza 3 will typically be fans familiar with the previous 2 games in the series and who usually read stuff online before buying games. If Sega doesn't want to release Yakuza 4 stateside because the sales aren't good enough, fine, but for Yakuza 3 they should have included everything upon release.[/QUOTE]

Actually thats not how you do business either. You conduct analysis weighing the projected costs against the projected sales and weigh what sections of the game are most important and budget accordingly. They probably weighed the amount of sales they thought they would lose against the costs of localizing the content and clearly thought it was worth it.
 
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