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itll be the dog, there is no way they are killin anyone of the main 5 or 6 characters. Maybe Pete will come back to get killed.
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Yup, cant wait.
But, the real thing here is, after clark died the whole thing was cool. I was like daaaaaaaaaamn, when he did the super jump / flying stunt on the rocket. Seems like they are really back to the action, which is good.
But, the real thing here is, after clark died the whole thing was cool. I was like daaaaaaaaaamn, when he did the super jump / flying stunt on the rocket. Seems like they are really back to the action, which is good.
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Any chance of Clark's dad being the one who dies as a result of Clark's actions? We all know that Jonathan ends up dying anyway so if it ended up being partially because of Clark than his death would have so much more significance compared to his heart attack at the beginning of the first film.
[quote name='basketkase543']Any chance of Clark's dad being the one who dies as a result of Clark's actions? We all know that Jonathan ends up dying anyway so if it ended up being partially because of Clark than his death would have so much more significance compared to his heart attack at the begin of the first film.[/QUOTE]
Actually, that's only according to the old movie continuity. He's still alive in the comics (which, if Jeph Loeb seems to be indicating is true, is what the show is based on).
Actually, that's only according to the old movie continuity. He's still alive in the comics (which, if Jeph Loeb seems to be indicating is true, is what the show is based on).
The guilt they put on him for the eventual death of his dad, I'm sure, is extremely heavy. I'm not even sure what to do with it. I know I'm way too into a show when it stirs emotions like this, but to watch the next several weeks as Clark struggles with whether or not he should push everyone away (because everyone he "loves" is now in eminent danger) and to see him eventually dealing with the reality that he has caused the death of someone he loves (whether it be his dad or Chloe - the two easiest targets without screwing up the Superman space-time-continuum) is going to be a dark place for Smallville, I assume for at least most of the rest of this season. I love the show, but it hurt to watch that all unfold on tonight's episode.
I thought it was a good turnout tonight I think chloe will die but they will drag it out a few episodes first.
Was the dc emblem featured at the end of smallville before recently? Could this be why they have introduced the flash auquaman and other dc charactors?
Bruce wayne this season perhaps?
Was the dc emblem featured at the end of smallville before recently? Could this be why they have introduced the flash auquaman and other dc charactors?
Bruce wayne this season perhaps?
By the way, can someone clear up a "Superman mystery" for me that some friends and I have discussed recently?
In Superman's adult life, does Lex Luther know that Superman is Clark Kent? If so, why does he keep his secret? If not...
Can someone explain how Lex will do battle with "Superman" when they are both 30-something adults and not recognize Clark Kent in tights? I mean, if we're REALLY willing to stretch things, you could argue that he wouldn't recognize Metropolis Clark with the glasses and nerdy haircut (assuming he never heard his name). But having see and spent time with Clark Kent for over 5 years now I just don't understand how Lex would not know Superman's secret identity. Can someone help me out here? Is there an explanation I haven't considered, or is Lex just destined to get hit in the head and "forget" everything for the last 5/6/7/8 years as part of a giant plot-bandaid to cover the gaping hole in logic here?
In Superman's adult life, does Lex Luther know that Superman is Clark Kent? If so, why does he keep his secret? If not...
Can someone explain how Lex will do battle with "Superman" when they are both 30-something adults and not recognize Clark Kent in tights? I mean, if we're REALLY willing to stretch things, you could argue that he wouldn't recognize Metropolis Clark with the glasses and nerdy haircut (assuming he never heard his name). But having see and spent time with Clark Kent for over 5 years now I just don't understand how Lex would not know Superman's secret identity. Can someone help me out here? Is there an explanation I haven't considered, or is Lex just destined to get hit in the head and "forget" everything for the last 5/6/7/8 years as part of a giant plot-bandaid to cover the gaping hole in logic here?
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[quote name='chosen1s']By the way, can someone clear up a "Superman mystery" for me that some friends and I have discussed recently?
In Superman's adult life, does Lex Luther know that Superman is Clark Kent? If so, why does he keep his secret? If not...
Can someone explain how Lex will do battle with "Superman" when they are both 30-something adults and not recognize Clark Kent in tights? I mean, if we're REALLY willing to stretch things, you could argue that he wouldn't recognize Metropolis Clark with the glasses and nerdy haircut (assuming he never heard his name). But having see and spent time with Clark Kent for over 5 years now I just don't understand how Lex would not know Superman's secret identity. Can someone help me out here? Is there an explanation I haven't considered, or is Lex just destined to get hit in the head and "forget" everything for the last 5/6/7/8 years as part of a giant plot-bandaid to cover the gaping hole in logic here?[/QUOTE]
It's a good question and I don't think there is any good way around it. Either Lex knows all along that Supe is Clark or he's an idiot. And, like you said, if Lex does in fact know, than why keep it a secret? Blackmail perhaps?
In Superman's adult life, does Lex Luther know that Superman is Clark Kent? If so, why does he keep his secret? If not...
Can someone explain how Lex will do battle with "Superman" when they are both 30-something adults and not recognize Clark Kent in tights? I mean, if we're REALLY willing to stretch things, you could argue that he wouldn't recognize Metropolis Clark with the glasses and nerdy haircut (assuming he never heard his name). But having see and spent time with Clark Kent for over 5 years now I just don't understand how Lex would not know Superman's secret identity. Can someone help me out here? Is there an explanation I haven't considered, or is Lex just destined to get hit in the head and "forget" everything for the last 5/6/7/8 years as part of a giant plot-bandaid to cover the gaping hole in logic here?[/QUOTE]
It's a good question and I don't think there is any good way around it. Either Lex knows all along that Supe is Clark or he's an idiot. And, like you said, if Lex does in fact know, than why keep it a secret? Blackmail perhaps?
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[quote name='jaykrue']Actually, that's only according to the old movie continuity. He's still alive in the comics (which, if Jeph Loeb seems to be indicating is true, is what the show is based on).[/QUOTE]
But don't forget that the movie next year will follow the Donner storyline and continue with Jonathan's death. It would make sense to go ahead and kill off Clark's dad to prepare a new generation for his absence in next year's film.
But don't forget that the movie next year will follow the Donner storyline and continue with Jonathan's death. It would make sense to go ahead and kill off Clark's dad to prepare a new generation for his absence in next year's film.
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I dont know who is gonna die, i guess i will just check out the upcoming information located over at the main site.
Peace.
Peace.
Have they said that they will definitely kill off Jonathan for the movie next year? I've got to be honest - I'm really disappointed Tom Welling didn't step up to be Superman in the movie. Yes yes, I know, he wants to keep from getting "stuck" with that label for his "career". He just plays that role so well. And is it so bad to get rich off Smallville, a Superman movie, and the multiple sequels that are sure to follow while leaving a legacy as one of the last 4 generation's greatest Superhero's?
When you say Clark Kent, I immediately picture Tom Welling. Anybody else, no matter how good of an actor, is going to seem like a phony. Having watched Clark's development over the last 4+ seasons of Smallville, it's going to be really, really hard to watch a Superman movie and not question every reaction or motive behind his decisions. Oh well. As I posted earlier, I am way too into this show.
When you say Clark Kent, I immediately picture Tom Welling. Anybody else, no matter how good of an actor, is going to seem like a phony. Having watched Clark's development over the last 4+ seasons of Smallville, it's going to be really, really hard to watch a Superman movie and not question every reaction or motive behind his decisions. Oh well. As I posted earlier, I am way too into this show.
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How come nobody aint talking about the rocket part tho, yall have to admit that was cool.
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I think when it comes down to it if they are going to have a sacrifice this season of someone that is close to Clark I think they will end up killing off Lana based on the facts from last season.
Example: Remember for those who watched Season 4 when Clark fell in love with the chick that could teleport and told her that he was in love with her how within 2 episodes they end up killing her character. I think this will happen again just for the fact they need to by the end of the season start making the focus of Clark's affection toward Lois anyway while dealing with Chloe at Metropolis University (Also the school that Lois is suppose to be attending at the moment).
Example: Remember for those who watched Season 4 when Clark fell in love with the chick that could teleport and told her that he was in love with her how within 2 episodes they end up killing her character. I think this will happen again just for the fact they need to by the end of the season start making the focus of Clark's affection toward Lois anyway while dealing with Chloe at Metropolis University (Also the school that Lois is suppose to be attending at the moment).
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[quote name='chosen1s']I thought Lana was "safe". As in, one of the characters that is destined to return and play a role in Superman's adult life (Lex, Clark, Lois, and Clark's Mom are all pretty safe in terms of your knowing they're not going to die).[/QUOTE]
Damn your right I don't know how this played out in the comics but in the movies I just remembered how Lana ends up with one of the popular guys at their school as her husband after Clark went away to Metropolis so I guess Chloe might end up being the one to go since she was the other character they added to just the TV series outside of Pete. Also evidence may be showing toward Chloe because she is like the only person outside of his parents that know his secret and the only person to actually see the Fortess of Solitude.
Damn your right I don't know how this played out in the comics but in the movies I just remembered how Lana ends up with one of the popular guys at their school as her husband after Clark went away to Metropolis so I guess Chloe might end up being the one to go since she was the other character they added to just the TV series outside of Pete. Also evidence may be showing toward Chloe because she is like the only person outside of his parents that know his secret and the only person to actually see the Fortess of Solitude.
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Its either going to be Jonathan or Chloe. It doesn't make sense to kill anyone else off since they exist in the continuity, however they could kill someone off then bring them back.
Yeah,
I've been expecting her to die since she found out about Clark's secret. For one thing, it's getting weird having Clark be with Lana but confiding his trust in Chloe. Love = Trust, etc. Second, there is the over-arching theme of Superman that he has to bear this burden alone and having Chloe alive is screwing that all up. Finally, as you stated she isn't really in the Superman lore anyway, and to bring Lois into that group is one too many women competing for Clark's affection in my opinion. I think it would make writing difficult.
The more we talk about it, the more convinced I am that it's going to be Chloe rather than Jonathan. What I am trying to figure out is how that life will be taken. Was Jor-El speaking broadly/metaphorically in saying one life being given for another's, or is it a direct cause-effect?
In other words, will there come a time when Jor-El acts to take another's life, the way he acted directly with/through Jonathan to bring Clark back from Metropolis? Or is this an ambiguous "it's the way of nature, so prepare for the inevitable" where somebody like Chloe is going to die because she knows Clark's secret and gets placed in the inevitable position of having to choose between dying and revealing Clark? In that case, Jor-El would be more in the position of "I told you so" than he would be actually causing someone to die. Is Jor-El predicting the future or declaring his intentions?
I've been expecting her to die since she found out about Clark's secret. For one thing, it's getting weird having Clark be with Lana but confiding his trust in Chloe. Love = Trust, etc. Second, there is the over-arching theme of Superman that he has to bear this burden alone and having Chloe alive is screwing that all up. Finally, as you stated she isn't really in the Superman lore anyway, and to bring Lois into that group is one too many women competing for Clark's affection in my opinion. I think it would make writing difficult.
The more we talk about it, the more convinced I am that it's going to be Chloe rather than Jonathan. What I am trying to figure out is how that life will be taken. Was Jor-El speaking broadly/metaphorically in saying one life being given for another's, or is it a direct cause-effect?
In other words, will there come a time when Jor-El acts to take another's life, the way he acted directly with/through Jonathan to bring Clark back from Metropolis? Or is this an ambiguous "it's the way of nature, so prepare for the inevitable" where somebody like Chloe is going to die because she knows Clark's secret and gets placed in the inevitable position of having to choose between dying and revealing Clark? In that case, Jor-El would be more in the position of "I told you so" than he would be actually causing someone to die. Is Jor-El predicting the future or declaring his intentions?
well we can all agree that there are 3 possibilities and they will play off which one bites the dust all season maybe. I put it as such:
Lana: 70%
Jonathan: 70%
Chloe: 70%
There really is no way of knowing and arguments for all sides. If I were to pick though my gut says Lana since the way the story is going now with them so close they want the biggest devastating reaction from clark to turn him into Superman. It all depends on how the episodes go though with who is closest to Clark being the one that goes I think. But my main question is about Lionel now. Anyone think that Jor-el is still possesing Lionel and will watch Clark's back? I still can't flesh out the particulars of the Lionel possesion anyone wanna go for it?
Lana: 70%
Jonathan: 70%
Chloe: 70%
There really is no way of knowing and arguments for all sides. If I were to pick though my gut says Lana since the way the story is going now with them so close they want the biggest devastating reaction from clark to turn him into Superman. It all depends on how the episodes go though with who is closest to Clark being the one that goes I think. But my main question is about Lionel now. Anyone think that Jor-el is still possesing Lionel and will watch Clark's back? I still can't flesh out the particulars of the Lionel possesion anyone wanna go for it?
My opinion of Lionel is that when he was holding the stone, it essentially programmed his mind to be open to Jor-El's influence. His catatonic state was basically his body waiting for his mind to tell him what to do. As a comparison, like installing a new program on your computer and rebooting. Your computer sits there at the Username/Password stage - still running, but not "thinking" until you hit the enter key. Lionel was in that state waiting for Jor-El to flip the switch. That's how I see it. As to whether or not Jor-El will use him in the future, I would say one of two circumstances currently exists:
1) Lionel is Lionel, and the writers will only use him as Jor-El if necessary. In other words, that door remains wide open
2) Lionel is still Jor-El. He was acting oddly when he came in and saw Lex.
1) Lionel is Lionel, and the writers will only use him as Jor-El if necessary. In other words, that door remains wide open
2) Lionel is still Jor-El. He was acting oddly when he came in and saw Lex.
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[quote name='chosen1s']Have they said that they will definitely kill off Jonathan for the movie next year?[/QUOTE]
Yes they have. Singer has confirmed that the film takes place after the final film and partially continues its continuity (including the death of Jonathan).
[quote name='chosen1s']I've got to be honest - I'm really disappointed Tom Welling didn't step up to be Superman in the movie. [/QUOTE]
From what I understand, it was Singer who chose to go with Brandon Routh for the part instead of Tom Welling, though I'm not 100% positive.
Yes they have. Singer has confirmed that the film takes place after the final film and partially continues its continuity (including the death of Jonathan).
[quote name='chosen1s']I've got to be honest - I'm really disappointed Tom Welling didn't step up to be Superman in the movie. [/QUOTE]
From what I understand, it was Singer who chose to go with Brandon Routh for the part instead of Tom Welling, though I'm not 100% positive.
I think Allison Mack or John Schneider might be the one's to die. I think Lana has a son with Pete, but that isn't too big a part of the story and could easily be averted.
I'm hoping for Lex to slip further into the "dark side" (sparing all the corniness that comes from that phrase). I mean he got the crap kicked out of him from Clark, but he's not as bad as I want him to be.
I'm hoping for Lex to slip further into the "dark side" (sparing all the corniness that comes from that phrase). I mean he got the crap kicked out of him from Clark, but he's not as bad as I want him to be.
[quote name='basketkase543']Yes they have. Singer has confirmed that the film takes place after the final film and partially continues its continuity (including the death of Jonathan).
I get that you are confirming that Jonathan is going to have to die, but I don't understand what you mean "the film takes place after the final film and partially continues..."
You mean, the film takes place after Superman 1, considering itself to be a "true" Superman 2? Or it's a "Superman 1.5"?
Or do you mean it takes place after the "Final Smallville"?
I get that you are confirming that Jonathan is going to have to die, but I don't understand what you mean "the film takes place after the final film and partially continues..."
You mean, the film takes place after Superman 1, considering itself to be a "true" Superman 2? Or it's a "Superman 1.5"?
Or do you mean it takes place after the "Final Smallville"?
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[quote name='chosen1s'][quote name='basketkase543']Yes they have. Singer has confirmed that the film takes place after the final film and partially continues its continuity (including the death of Jonathan).
I get that you are confirming that Jonathan is going to have to die, but I don't understand what you mean "the film takes place after the final film and partially continues..."
You mean, the film takes place after Superman 1, considering itself to be a "true" Superman 2? Or it's a "Superman 1.5"?
Or do you mean it takes place after the "Final Smallville"?[/QUOTE]
Basically the new film takes place after the last Superman film but not EXACTLY. Think of it as a spiritual sequel in the sense that it'll continue the basic plot of the first four films loosely. Basically the film is Superman coming back to earth after a long absence to discover that Lois Lane is now with somebody else. So it will continue with the fact that they were once a couple, as was established in the older films. With this plot, Singer is able to not completely forget everything that happened in the previous films while still enabling a psuedo fresh start.
I have no idea how it's gonna work with Lex though. After watching Smallville for so long I really want Lex and Clark to have a deep hero/villain relationship but who knows how much they'll tap into the Smallville legacy. Singer said he wants to try and remain faithful to it but we don't know to what extent.
I get that you are confirming that Jonathan is going to have to die, but I don't understand what you mean "the film takes place after the final film and partially continues..."
You mean, the film takes place after Superman 1, considering itself to be a "true" Superman 2? Or it's a "Superman 1.5"?
Or do you mean it takes place after the "Final Smallville"?[/QUOTE]
Basically the new film takes place after the last Superman film but not EXACTLY. Think of it as a spiritual sequel in the sense that it'll continue the basic plot of the first four films loosely. Basically the film is Superman coming back to earth after a long absence to discover that Lois Lane is now with somebody else. So it will continue with the fact that they were once a couple, as was established in the older films. With this plot, Singer is able to not completely forget everything that happened in the previous films while still enabling a psuedo fresh start.
I have no idea how it's gonna work with Lex though. After watching Smallville for so long I really want Lex and Clark to have a deep hero/villain relationship but who knows how much they'll tap into the Smallville legacy. Singer said he wants to try and remain faithful to it but we don't know to what extent.
As Singer's movie goes he wanted to go for an unknown actor. Look at Spiderman and Batman, successful and believable because they were both generally unknown by the masses. As much as it would be cool to have Tom Welling star in a movie I'd rather see him star in a Smallville TV themed episode. He also seems to young for a superman movie set after the inital movies.
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[quote name='cag1000']As Singer's movie goes he wanted to go for an unknown actor. Look at Spiderman and Batman, successful and believable because they were both generally unknown by the masses. As much as it would be cool to have Tom Welling star in a movie I'd rather see him star in a Smallville TV themed episode. He also seems to young for a superman movie set after the inital movies.[/QUOTE]
It's weird but Brandon Routh is actually younger than Tom Welling is.
It's weird but Brandon Routh is actually younger than Tom Welling is.
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OMG damn commercial break!!
"I don't know if I'm ready for the JLA (junior lifeguard assoc.)"
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Lex finally tonight for the first time showed the TRUE COMICBOOK LEX when talking to aquaman strapped to the table like a true comic villian with how he was acting and talking.
Also Clark and Lois thing at the end was a nice nod also. Never knew that Lois was a whore for aquaman before she gets with superman. Bet that will make things awkward later when superman marries Lois.
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in geek festLex finally tonight for the first time showed the TRUE COMICBOOK LEX when talking to aquaman strapped to the table like a true comic villian with how he was acting and talking.
Also Clark and Lois thing at the end was a nice nod also. Never knew that Lois was a whore for aquaman before she gets with superman. Bet that will make things awkward later when superman marries Lois.
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Yes, akward indeed.
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It's would have so cool if the guy from Entourage was Aquaman. But good episode overall.
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Of course its worth watching, its on season 5 and its back to its main roots, well sort of. I explain later.
[quote name='triforcer']what season are the on, i stopped watching during the first because it played the same time as 24. is it worth jumping back in?[/QUOTE]
How come you didnt start watching again the 3rd and 4th seasons? The first season and I think second season was on tuesday, the 3rd and 4th got moved to weds. Unless of course 24 moved days the same time as smallville.
How come you didnt start watching again the 3rd and 4th seasons? The first season and I think second season was on tuesday, the 3rd and 4th got moved to weds. Unless of course 24 moved days the same time as smallville.
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[quote name='cag1000']spike looks different
didn't know the accent for buffy was fake.
also nice touch with the orange and green aquaman costume.[/QUOTE]
I'm a little confused about this plot point. So the professor is the same guy that came out of the space ship? Hasn't everyone been talking about how the new guy on the show is the guy from Buffy and that he is the one in the ship? If so, than how the hell did some recent alien get a job as a professor????
didn't know the accent for buffy was fake.
also nice touch with the orange and green aquaman costume.[/QUOTE]
I'm a little confused about this plot point. So the professor is the same guy that came out of the space ship? Hasn't everyone been talking about how the new guy on the show is the guy from Buffy and that he is the one in the ship? If so, than how the hell did some recent alien get a job as a professor????
[quote name='cag1000']spike looks different
didn't know the accent for buffy was fake.
also nice touch with the orange and green aquaman costume.[/QUOTE]
Yea who knew a california guy could pull off such a convincing British accent. He looks different because his hair is dark
didn't know the accent for buffy was fake.
also nice touch with the orange and green aquaman costume.[/QUOTE]
Yea who knew a california guy could pull off such a convincing British accent. He looks different because his hair is dark
[quote name='basketkase543']I'm a little confused about this plot point. So the professor is the same guy that came out of the space ship? Hasn't everyone been talking about how the new guy on the show is the guy from Buffy and that he is the one in the ship? If so, than how the hell did some recent alien get a job as a professor????[/QUOTE]
He is a genius so he probably faked some paperwork or something. Also regardless of what he said about Lex I get a feeling he may be working with him
He is a genius so he probably faked some paperwork or something. Also regardless of what he said about Lex I get a feeling he may be working with him
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[quote name='pinoy530']How come you didnt start watching again the 3rd and 4th seasons? The first season and I think second season was on tuesday, the 3rd and 4th got moved to weds. Unless of course 24 moved days the same time as smallville.[/QUOTE]well i felt that i couldn't get back into so since i missed so much already. that's what happened with alias, i must have watched most or all of the first season and part of the second season, but arrested development took it for my time slot. but now i hardly watch any tv and the tv i do i bittorrent, so maybe ill catch up on shows that way.
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