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[quote name='mykevermin']The only problem with online is the lack of consistency in which you'll find people using mics/headsets. Which is not at all a big deal to me. Otherwise, the online is just peachy.

Exclusives? I can't recommend warhawk enough. Killzone 2 is a great shooter as well. MGS4 and Uncharted are musts for playing through. I really like LittleBigPlanet, but know that's a title people tend to be on one extreme or the other for.[/QUOTE]

You bring up good points!

But more importantly... when are you starting your Haze marathon?
 
[quote name='Ecofreak']You bring up good points!

But more importantly... when are you starting your Haze marathon?[/QUOTE]

Training, dude. Training.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']
Exclusives? I can't recommend warhawk enough. Killzone 2 is a great shooter as well. MGS4 and Uncharted are musts for playing through. I really like LittleBigPlanet, but know that's a title people tend to be on one extreme or the other for.[/QUOTE]


What about Heavenly Sword? That game looked soo beautiful when it came out. The only real gripe I remember hearing was that it was short, like 5-6 hours short. Not a dealbreaker for me as long as I can get it at a decent price.

So far I'm looking at getting:

- Warhawk w/ headset
- Valkyria Chronicles
- Disgaea 3

I want LBP and Uncharted as well, but I may just wait for Uncharted 2 and GOTY edition of LBP.
 
Puffa, definitely play through Uncharted 1 and 2.
Fun stories, good game. You'll appreciate 2 even more.[quote name='guyver2077']word is that the new slim can bitstream hi def audio codecs... now im interested[/QUOTE]
It's a nice little bonus, but the sound would be no different than current PS3s.

I'd like to see the little lights on my receiver turn on some day though. :(
 
[quote name='Puffa469']What about Heavenly Sword? That game looked soo beautiful when it came out. The only real gripe I remember hearing was that it was short, like 5-6 hours short. Not a dealbreaker for me as long as I can get it at a decent price.

So far I'm looking at getting:

- Warhawk w/ headset
[/QUOTE]

Heavenly Sword is beautiful (I finished it), but I don't like games where you have to enter button combinations to do different attacks. Plus I could never get the hang of blocking different (colored) attack types.

I think Warhawk is one of the best PS3 games, period. That said, I do not recommend buying the bundle that comes with headset. Get the official headset, it's much better.
 
[quote name='Teh Nitwit']Heavenly Sword is beautiful (I finished it), but I don't like games where you have to enter button combinations to do different attacks. Plus I could never get the hang of blocking different (colored) attack types.

I think Warhawk is one of the best PS3 games, period. That said, I do not recommend buying the bundle that comes with headset. Get the official headset, it's much better.[/QUOTE]


+1, plus Killzone, very good game.
 
Now that the PS3 is down to 299.99 does this mean I'll be able to play some Mass Effect, or Gears of War on my PS3... I wonder how the devs are going to respond with their games, now that they can forsee that PS3 userbase will be growing.
 
[quote name='Thomas96']Now that the PS3 is down to 299.99 does this mean I'll be able to play some Mass Effect, or Gears of War on my PS3... I wonder how the devs are going to respond with their games, now that they can forsee that PS3 userbase will be growing.[/QUOTE]

Nah. MS paid good money for exclusivity on these games. Just play them on PC.
 
[quote name='Thomas96']Now that the PS3 is down to 299.99 does this mean I'll be able to play some Mass Effect, or Gears of War on my PS3... I wonder how the devs are going to respond with their games, now that they can forsee that PS3 userbase will be growing.[/QUOTE]

not when they are microsoft studio games.
 
someone needs to re-title the subject of this thread, it doesn't ship 8/24, you can get it 9/1, and online retailers don't ship till 9/1.
never mind, actual release seems to be up in the air. i have my finger crossed.
 
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[quote name='Thomas96']Now that the PS3 is down to 299.99 does this mean I'll be able to play some Mass Effect, or Gears of War on my PS3... I wonder how the devs are going to respond with their games, now that they can forsee that PS3 userbase will be growing.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I highly doubt that you'll see a Gears of War on the PS3. But maybe a game to match it, to say the least.
 
[quote name='Teh Nitwit']Heavenly Sword is beautiful (I finished it), but I don't like games where you have to enter button combinations to do different attacks. Plus I could never get the hang of blocking different (colored) attack types.

I think Warhawk is one of the best PS3 games, period. That said, I do not recommend buying the bundle that comes with headset. Get the official headset, it's much better.[/QUOTE]

The only two problems I ever had with Heavenly Sword was that you had to do the timed button press 'finishers' on some bosses. That combined with the SixAxis portions of the game made it a bit tedious to slog through.

Otherwise, it was a decent game, but thankfully I found out you could get rid of the SixAxis portions by changing one setting, so only the timed button presses still annoy me about it.

As for Warhawk, if you like online ONLY games, you'll love it. I personally can't stand it though and I'm glad I only paid $5 for my copy. Anything more and I'd be really pissed off(at myself) for wasting the extra $$$ on it.

If you don't sit that far from your PS3, you can use ANY USB headset on it(I'm currently using a PS2 SOCOM headset), which beats paying $40 for a headset anyday.
 
[quote name='orntar']someone needs to re-title the subject of this thread, it doesn't ship 8/24, you can get it 9/1, and online retailers don't ship till 9/1.
never mind, actual release seems to be up in the air. i have my finger crossed.[/QUOTE]


Im glad you decided to fix your threadcrapping. I posted what info Im getting as Im getting it. The Info I have now is that it Ships and release 8/25/09

This is also posted on GS and Amazon's listings now

AMAZON
http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-3...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=486641191&pf_rd_i=507846


GS
http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=75780
 
[quote name='orntar']not when they are microsoft studio games.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='Phunin']Yeah, I highly doubt that you'll see a Gears of War on the PS3. But maybe a game to match it, to say the least.[/QUOTE]

Gears is still owned by Epic, and Mass is owned by Bioware... so I'm thinking they could bring the games to PS3 if they really wanted to.. and if they hadn't signed to make 20 exclusive games. I've heard people say that Gears 2 didn't sell as well as they (epic and MS) had hoped... so maybe they'll port it for a little extra money. PS3 owners way to play gears, why let Quatum take all the money that a Gears 2 port would have made on PS3. Also, EA is publishing Mass Effect 2, so hopefully, they'll go ahead and put it on PS3. I want to play Mass Effect, but at this point I don't want to play games on my 360, fall in love w/ the game, and then my 360 break and I can' finish.


[quote name='Ecofreak']Oh, you mean Quantum (PS3 exclusive) by Tecmo?

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/50731.html[/QUOTE]

YOu know what.. that's good enough for me... It doesn't have to be Gears of War.. I just need a 3rd person shoot em up.. it could star hello kitty... just as long as she can shoot and take cover that'll be good enough for me. lol
 
[quote name='Thomas96']Gears is still owned by Epic, and Mass is owned by Bioware... so I'm thinking they could bring the games to PS3 if they really wanted to.. and if they hadn't signed to make 20 exclusive games. I've heard people say that Gears 2 didn't sell as well as they (epic and MS) had hoped... so maybe they'll port it for a little extra money. PS3 owners way to play gears, why let Quatum take all the money that a Gears 2 port would have made on PS3. Also, EA is publishing Mass Effect 2, so hopefully, they'll go ahead and put it on PS3. I want to play Mass Effect, but at this point I don't want to play games on my 360, fall in love w/ the game, and then my 360 break and I can' finish.




YOu know what.. that's good enough for me... It doesn't have to be Gears of War.. I just need a 3rd person shoot em up.. it could star hello kitty... just as long as she can shoot and take cover that'll be good enough for me. lol[/QUOTE]


But would you really want to have the sequel to a console exclusive game, that ties in gameplay wise directly to the original, on a multiplatform setup. That would just be too confusing.
 
[quote name='Thomas96'] want to play Mass Effect, but at this point I don't want to play games on my 360, fall in love w/ the game, and then my 360 break and I can' finish.
[/QUOTE]

Dude, you've posted three iterations of that same sentence today- please stop. It's fanboy crap, tons of us have had our 360's break and 9 days later gotten a replacement. (including the blog response today) If you can't hold out for nine days to finish a game then go back to pokemon card matches, they don't break.

When my 60gb breaks, as is it about to do (I'm losing video), I'll probably not spend the $150 to fix it (when I'll probably get a refurb'ed 80 in return) and just by a 250, if I don't sell it first. I wont be a whiny little turd about it.
 
[quote name='h3llbring3r']Dude, you've posted three iterations of that same sentence today- please stop. It's fanboy crap, tons of us have had our 360's break and 9 days later a replacement. If you can't hold out for nine days too finish a game then go back to pokemon card matches, they don't break.

When my 60gb breaks, as is it about to do (I'm losing video), I'll probably not spend the $150 to fix it (when I'l probably get a refurbed 80 in return) and just by a 250, if I don;t sell it first. I wont be a whiny little turd about it.[/QUOTE]


I'm not even on any fanboy bandwagon.. the things that I've said about the 360 (at least) about 3 times have been said because its my true feelings, about the 360. You already are a whiny little turd.. nice title for yourself. There are games on the 360 I want to play, but like I said before I won't because I know my 360 is giving me problems.. so I'm hoping that this PS3 price drop may usher in some more of these 360 games.. so I don't have to even worry about using my 360. If you don't like what I have to say.. just ignore me.
 
[quote name='Oswald9599']But would you really want to have the sequel to a console exclusive game, that ties in gameplay wise directly to the original, on a multiplatform setup. That would just be too confusing.[/QUOTE]

really?! Everyone knows what happens in Mass Effect... answer the questions, talk to everyone, and have hot alien sex with the blue alien... I think that Part 2's story will be good enough on its own so that it can be enjoyed without... the previous story [although I understand your point and acknowledge that I'd probably enjoy part 2 more having completed part 1.]
 
[quote name='Oswald9599']Im glad you decided to fix your threadcrapping. I posted what info Im getting as Im getting it. The Info I have now is that it Ships and release 8/25/09[/QUOTE]

wow, pissy much?
 
[quote name='orntar']wow, pissy much?[/QUOTE]

not really. It's hard to convey tone when I'm clicking a keyboard. I just dont like being called out to do something when your info was not right. That is all.
You changed it though so Im happy :D. See
 
[quote name='Thomas96']really?! Everyone knows what happens in Mass Effect... answer the questions, talk to everyone, and have hot alien sex with the blue alien... I think that Part 2's story will be good enough on its own so that it can be enjoyed without... the previous story [although I understand your point and acknowledge that I'd probably enjoy part 2 more having completed part 1.][/QUOTE]

Alright, fess up. This is a joke account right?
 
[quote name='Thomas96']I'm not even on any fanboy bandwagon.. [/QUOTE]
Please, you are the SDF's replacement for TMK.

[quote name='Thomas96']You already are a whiny little turd.. nice title for yourself. (I know you are but what am I, really?)[/QUOTE]

You can call me a lot of things but a whiny turd is not one of them, that is entirely your purveyance.


[quote name='A Happy Panda']Alright, fess up. This is a joke account right?[/QUOTE]

No T96 is real, I know it's a stretch to believe with his pushing the benchmark for the extreme limits fanboyism and all.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Training, dude. Training.[/QUOTE]
Like what? Playing bad games like the launch Gundam game or Vampire Rain or a bad FPS like The Punisher? You need to document this journey for everyone.
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']Like what? Playing bad games like the launch Gundam game or Vampire Rain or a bad FPS like The Punisher? You need to document this journey for everyone.[/QUOTE]

Vampire Rain was epic....






.....shit
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']Like what? Playing bad games like the launch Gundam game or Vampire Rain or a bad FPS like The Punisher? You need to document this journey for everyone.[/QUOTE]

That Gundam Corssfire game was $Money$!
Wanna buy my copy?
 
[quote name='FriskyTanuki']$-5?[/QUOTE]
It's only been on my TL since . . . I don't even. :lol:
[edit] I think I even moved to my personal collection since I couldn't hock it.
 
[quote name='h3llbring3r']Please, you are the SDF's replacement for TMK. [/quote]

I guess that makes you just another punk Xbot...

You can call me a lot of things but a whiny turd is not one of them, that is entirely your purveyance.
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you're a man following me around complain about my statements.. and whining about the thing's i've said... if that isn't whiny I don't know what is.


No T96 is real, I know it's a stretch to believe with his pushing the benchmark for the extreme limits fanboyism and all.
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I like the ps3 and that doesn't make me a fanboy... I don't go around getting upset at others for having a different of opinion or trying to point out who likes what, and blah blah, blah... you can believe what you want, I'm not a fanboy, and I'm not going to bother trying to convince you. you act like I love the ps3 and I can see no faults with it.. trust me its not like that. I
 
[quote name='A Happy Panda']Alright, fess up. This is a joke account right?[/QUOTE]

I couldn't think of a response.. so STFU. hey do you think that PS3 may get better third party support since the price has been dropped to 300?
 
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[quote name='h3llbring3r']It's only been on my TL since . . . I don't even. :lol:
[edit] I think I even moved to my personal collection since I couldn't hock it.[/QUOTE]


So your saying its ok for a console to break down 3 times in a year and a half? If anybody is a fanboy look at you, breaking of the 360 and your willing to buy a refurb out of your pocket, makes a lot of sense?:roll: This makes me wonder how padded 360 sales are from people like you, who just buy another console to "fix" the problem?
 
[quote name='fatmanforlife99']So your saying its ok for a console to break down 3 times in a year and a half? If anybody is a fanboy look at you, breaking of the 360 and your willing to buy a refurb out of your pocket, makes a lot of sense?:roll: This makes me wonder how padded 360 sales are from people like you, who just buy another console to "fix" the problem?[/QUOTE]

You mean like people did with the PS2's early on due to the DRE last gen? :razz:

I knew one shmuck that went through 4-5 of them and the one used game store had literally HUNDREDS of them(versus maybe a dozen original Xbox systems)lining the one wall at the back of their shop.

Just saying that console failure rates happen, as even the PS3 has certain % that has broken down.
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']You mean like people did with the PS2's early on due to the DRE last gen? :razz:

I knew one shmuck that went through 4-5 of them and the one used game store had literally HUNDREDS of them(versus maybe a dozen original Xbox systems)lining the one wall at the back of their shop.

Just saying that console failure rates happen, as even the PS3 has certain % that has broken down.[/QUOTE]
But the 360s failure rate is unbelievably high. It breaks records in failure rate and the failure rate is at least 3 times the ps2s and maybe 10 times the ps3. Every console has a failure rate it just depends what you count as acceptable
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']You mean like people did with the PS2's early on due to the DRE last gen? :razz:

I knew one shmuck that went through 4-5 of them and the one used game store had literally HUNDREDS of them(versus maybe a dozen original Xbox systems)lining the one wall at the back of their shop.

Just saying that console failure rates happen, as even the PS3 has certain % that has broken down.[/QUOTE]


I know about the PS2, no need to change the subject. He is calling people fanyboys and not listening to what he is saying himself. Dude the PS3's failure rate is NOT EVEN fuckING CLOSE AT ALL with the 360. Can you just not respond to my posts? Every time you say something, its pretty fucking dumb and you critique every little thing about Sony as a whole. It just makes me really waste my time thinking how this guy could have a PS3?
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']You mean like people did with the PS2's early on due to the DRE last gen? :razz:

I knew one shmuck that went through 4-5 of them and the one used game store had literally HUNDREDS of them(versus maybe a dozen original Xbox systems)lining the one wall at the back of their shop.

Just saying that console failure rates happen, as even the PS3 has certain % that has broken down.[/QUOTE]

Your example is justified, but the 360 is still having these hardware issues even after ~4 years of being on the market. Granted, many that are now experiencing failures were bough ~1 year ago but it's still horrendous for this situation to continue after all this time.

Microsoft is not helping their fan base, and laughing all the way to the bank.
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']You mean like people did with the PS2's early on due to the DRE last gen? :razz:

I knew one shmuck that went through 4-5 of them and the one used game store had literally HUNDREDS of them(versus maybe a dozen original Xbox systems)lining the one wall at the back of their shop.

Just saying that console failure rates happen, as even the PS3 has certain % that has broken down.[/QUOTE]

I call bullshit on you. Do you even know the difference between the PS2 DRE and the 360 RRoD? The PS2 laser just needs to be cleaned and most of the time it's up and running again. The RRoD is a motherboard wrapping, a GPU frying, or the solder fucking up. There's no way to fix those.
 
[quote name='Paco']I call bullshit on you. Do you even know the difference between the PS2 DRE and the 360 RRoD? The PS2 laser just needs to be cleaned and most of the time it's up and running again. The RRoD is a motherboard wrapping, a GPU frying, or the solder fucking up. There's no way to fix those.[/QUOTE]

What about when people had problems with with the PS2 laser putting circular, non-fixable scratches on disc? I don't think cleaning the lens would help that. Hell, most people that cleaned the lens for DREs still had the same issue afterwards. To be fair, though, the original Xbox and especially the 360 seem to be shoddily made as well. Oddly enough, my used Gamecube from years ago is the only one that didn't break down and still works fine to this day.
 
[quote name='Rozz']What about when people had problems with with the PS2 laser putting circular, non-fixable scratches on disc? I don't think cleaning the lens would help that. Hell, most people that cleaned the lens for DREs still had the same issue afterwards. To be fair, though, the original Xbox and especially the 360 seem to be shoddily made as well. Oddly enough, my used Gamecube from years ago is the only one that didn't break down and still works fine to this day.[/QUOTE]

lol i got a used gamecube too and it always ran like buter same for my ps2 fat as well i never even knew ps2s had issues at the time so its news to me that it was that big of a deal. that said who doesnt know about the rrod even if you only game on a ps3 or wii youve heard about it its that big of a deal. why the hell did the topic of the ps3 price drop turn into a pro/anti sony microsoft debate? the ps3 is cheaper now (fact) so either buy one and enjoy or dont and shut the fuck up already.
 
[quote name='Rozz']What about when people had problems with with the PS2 laser putting circular, non-fixable scratches on disc? I don't think cleaning the lens would help that. Hell, most people that cleaned the lens for DREs still had the same issue afterwards. To be fair, though, the original Xbox and especially the 360 seem to be shoddily made as well. Oddly enough, my used Gamecube from years ago is the only one that didn't break down and still works fine to this day.[/QUOTE]

I believe you're thinking about the 360 as the PS2 never made circular scratches from what I remember. Though if that DID happen, the laser is too close and you need to realign the cog in it to make sure the laser isn't reading so close that it's scratching the disc. It's the 360 that scratched discs so badly that they wouldn't read.
 
[quote name='lokizz']lol i got a used gamecube too and it always ran like buter same for my ps2 fat as well i never even knew ps2s had issues at the time so its news to me that it was that big of a deal. that said who doesnt know about the rrod even if you only game on a ps3 or wii youve heard about it its that big of a deal. why the hell did the topic of the ps3 price drop turn into a pro/anti sony microsoft debate? the ps3 is cheaper now (fact) so either buy one and enjoy or dont and shut the fuck up already.[/QUOTE]

I think you're going to have to settle down a bit. As a consumer you have the right to purchase what you want and to give feedback on what you want to see improved/added. Maybe that final sentence can be reversed to "If you have one just play it and shut the fuck up already". ;)

[quote name='Paco']I believe you're thinking about the 360 as the PS2 never made circular scratches from what I remember. Though if that DID happen, the laser is too close and you need to realign the cog in it to make sure the laser isn't reading so close that it's scratching the disc. It's the 360 that scratched discs so badly that they wouldn't read.[/QUOTE]

No, PS2's had this issue as well. The 360 scratching discs is usually from moving it, while on defective PS2's it would happen from normal play usually on blue bottom discs. I have heard this happen on dual layer discs as well, though.
 
I finally pre-ordered the ps3 slim today at the local GS. I wanted to do it at best buy but they weren't taking pre-orders at mine. Guy says it will be there 8/25 so hopefully I get it before October ;) .
 
[quote name='fatmanforlife99']I know about the PS2, no need to change the subject. He is calling people fanyboys and not listening to what he is saying himself. Dude the PS3's failure rate is NOT EVEN fuckING CLOSE AT ALL with the 360. Can you just not respond to my posts? Every time you say something, its pretty fucking dumb and you critique every little thing about Sony as a whole. It just makes me really waste my time thinking how this guy could have a PS3?[/QUOTE]

How did I know my comment about the PS2's failure rate would garner a bunch of responses like this AGAIN? As for me having a PS3, I've said it before and I'll say it again, I like to play video games and I didn't want either a Wii or 360. Although, most of the games I wanted have been on the 360 as well as the PS3, so I really could've gone the cheaper route, but I decided not to.

[quote name='Paco']I call bullshit on you. Do you even know the difference between the PS2 DRE and the 360 RRoD? The PS2 laser just needs to be cleaned and most of the time it's up and running again. The RRoD is a motherboard wrapping, a GPU frying, or the solder fucking up. There's no way to fix those.[/QUOTE]

BUZZ!!!! WRONG!!! The PS2 DRE was not the ONLY PS2 issue, they also had the disc scratching like the 360, among other issues. That's why I'm shocked Sony even made it to their third gen of making hardware, since I thought most people who experienced the DRE alone would've abandoned them last gen.

And yes, I know some people didn't have ANY problems with their PS2's in comparison to the millions who did.
 
[quote name='Rozz']I think you're going to have to settle down a bit. As a consumer you have the right to purchase what you want and to give feedback on what you want to see improved/added. Maybe that final sentence can be reversed to "If you have one just play it and shut the fuck up already". ;)



No, PS2's had this issue as well. The 360 scratching discs is usually from moving it, while on defective PS2's it would happen from normal play usually on blue bottom discs. I have heard this happen on dual layer discs as well, though.[/QUOTE]

Hmmmm interesting. I never heard this to be honest. But I never really seen a blue backed disc so those may be voltage adjusted discs. I know that constantly switching from cd to dvd can mess with voltage. So who really knows?

And the 360 doesn't even need to be moved. Some scratch simply to spite. It's because Microsoft didn't want to spend 50 cents for adequate padding on the console.
 
[quote name='IAmTheCheapestGamer']How did I know my comment about the PS2's failure rate would garner a bunch of responses like this AGAIN? As for me having a PS3, I've said it before and I'll say it again, I like to play video games and I didn't want either a Wii or 360. Although, most of the games I wanted have been on the 360 as well as the PS3, so I really could've gone the cheaper route, but I decided not to.



BUZZ!!!! WRONG!!! The PS2 DRE was not the ONLY PS2 issue, they also had the disc scratching like the 360, among other issues. That's why I'm shocked Sony even made it to their third gen of making hardware, since I thought most people who experienced the DRE alone would've abandoned them last gen.

And yes, I know some people didn't have ANY problems with their PS2's in comparison to the millions who did.[/QUOTE]

You know cause your trolling hard man. Look you just said it, most of games you want to play are on the 360, right? Well get rid of your PS3 and get a 360. Simple and easy, then you will bitch so much how the 360 has flaws. Just make your mind and stop trolling.
 
PS2 had problems, the original xbox had problems, PS1 had problems, PS3 has problems but I have never seen a console have as much problems as the 360. 50% failure rate? Seems like more. I don't care what game informer says (that magazine sucks IMHO) all I know is I know about 5-10 people with 360's get red ringed and every videogames site I go to has people either complaining about the red ring or people talking trash about the red ring (usually the sony fanboys). PS2 might have had hardware problems, but it is no where near as bad as the 360's issues.

Also, I've never had a PS2 scratch my discs even though I had one give me DRE. So no console is immune to breaking. Unless it's an atari 2600 or an SNES (those things are last for fucking ever)

Anyways how did this thread become a discussion on hardware failure?
 
Apparently because I decided to re-hash the fact that the PS2 had some serious issues with it and people are automatically assuming I mean to say that one of Sony's 'perfect' consoles is/was as bad as the 360, which I never said.

Oh and Paco, ICO was a blue backed disc, as was Robot Alchemic Drive(RAD). It just baffled me that Sony didn't kind of mandate a universal format last gen, since you had the following formats all possibly being played on a PS2:

1)CD-blue back discs
2)music CD's-silver
2)DVD-silver
3)DVD-gold(dual layered)
4)PS1 games, which were either blue or black on back

I mean, just imagine if someone used their PS2 like some use their PS3's and played every one of those formats on their system. It's no wonder some of them failed then.
 
[quote name='Shaq-Funaki']PS2 had problems, the original xbox had problems, PS1 had problems, PS3 has problems but I have never seen a console have as much problems as the 360. 50% failure rate? Seems like more. I don't care what game informer says (that magazine sucks IMHO) all I know is I know about 5-10 people with 360's get red ringed and every videogames site I go to has people either complaining about the red ring or people talking trash about the red ring (usually the sony fanboys). PS2 might have had hardware problems, but it is no where near as bad as the 360's issues.

Also, I've never had a PS2 scratch my discs even though I had one give me DRE. So no console is immune to breaking. Unless it's an atari 2600 or an SNES (those things are last for fucking ever)

Anyways how did this thread become a discussion on hardware failure?[/QUOTE]

The Atari and Snes and all cartridge based systems have no moving parts so they're impossible to break since there's no wear and tear factor on them.

And Cheapest gamer. I know Sony's consoles have been flawed. But they're relatively easy fixes that allow you to continue playing after you finish fixing unlike the 360. Which would you prefer? A simple fix most people can do or a hardware failure that you can't fix unless you happen to have another motherboard and GPU in hand and that's IF you have the proper knowledge to solder it back in correctly?
 
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