Tax junk food to pay for health care
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This is inconsistent with your comment about desiring cloned meat for it's perceived cheapness, I suspect you are being disingenuous.
Back on topic I'd like to force fast food restaurants to post the caloric and fat content of food. A local restaurant around here does it and I know my family has found it pretty surprising, for example instead of opting for the fish dish in cream sauce you can get a simple pepper steak with significantly less calories - that's information that can help people make the right choices.
I also think that it makes sense for health providers to subsidize exercise and weight loss programs, after all a fitness trainer costs a hell of a lot less then a heart surgeon.
This is inconsistent with your comment about desiring cloned meat for it's perceived cheapness, I suspect you are being disingenuous.
Back on topic I'd like to force fast food restaurants to post the caloric and fat content of food. A local restaurant around here does it and I know my family has found it pretty surprising, for example instead of opting for the fish dish in cream sauce you can get a simple pepper steak with significantly less calories - that's information that can help people make the right choices.
I also think that it makes sense for health providers to subsidize exercise and weight loss programs, after all a fitness trainer costs a hell of a lot less then a heart surgeon.
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[quote name='panzerfaust']That's bullshit.
I love candy and an occasional Dr. Pepper or energy drink. I shouldn't have to pay extra because other people become unhealthy from them. You can become unhealthy eating too much in general anyways, good food or not. So I suppose we should put extra tax on all that as well.
And make it illegal to have poor posture as it leads to back problems.[/QUOTE]
The good of the many outweigh the needs of the few, more or less.
If anything is to be done about getting everyone in this country the healthcare they need alot of people are going to be inconvienced and the thing is this country and world is full of people who want to say "Hey thats great, yes I want this place to be better and have everyones needs met and for us all to get along..........but dont you dare do anything that makes me have to make a sacrifice for it because I want everyone to have free health care but I dont want to do anything for them to get it".
I love candy and an occasional Dr. Pepper or energy drink. I shouldn't have to pay extra because other people become unhealthy from them. You can become unhealthy eating too much in general anyways, good food or not. So I suppose we should put extra tax on all that as well.
And make it illegal to have poor posture as it leads to back problems.[/QUOTE]
The good of the many outweigh the needs of the few, more or less.
If anything is to be done about getting everyone in this country the healthcare they need alot of people are going to be inconvienced and the thing is this country and world is full of people who want to say "Hey thats great, yes I want this place to be better and have everyones needs met and for us all to get along..........but dont you dare do anything that makes me have to make a sacrifice for it because I want everyone to have free health care but I dont want to do anything for them to get it".
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I know one. There's an inverse correlation between the rates of stomach cancer and the spread of refrigeration. Different methods of food preservation = Less consumption of smoked, salted, and otherwise cured meats.Originally Posted by panzerfaust
You know half the reason we lead such healthier lives compared to people 200 years ago is because we've enhanced and properly packaged our food?
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Have some studies to back that up? I'd think that if any thing that hurts health in civilized areas. It helps life expectancy in third world countries as there's a lot more non-perishable food to ship.
But it's much healthier to eat fresh fruits and vegetables and meets than canned or frozen ones for sure.
The biggest reason for increase in life span and health in first world countries are the huge advances in medicine, medical technology and understanding of the human body, diseases etc. Not true. Good water sanitation is probably the largest factor; case in point, after the Black Death had passed you have a large portion of the population in Italy living to be 68 or older.
Lemme see if any others come to mind. Iodine-enriched salt (to prevent goiters). Fluoridated water (helps with tooth decay). Vitamin D added to milk to prevent rickets. Iron and niacin enriched bread.
Our food now is pretty much designed so that it's a lot more difficult for poor people or those with screwed up diets to be truly "unhealthy" or malnourished. You think man 200 years ago got vitamin-rich fruits and vegetables like we do in the dead of winter? Hell no!
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[quote name='gargus']The good of the many outweigh the needs of the few, more or less.
If anything is to be done about getting everyone in this country the healthcare they need alot of people are going to be inconvienced and the thing is this country and world is full of people who want to say "Hey thats great, yes I want this place to be better and have everyones needs met and for us all to get along..........but dont you dare do anything that makes me have to make a sacrifice for it because I want everyone to have free health care but I dont want to do anything for them to get it".[/QUOTE]
I don't believe that fatty foods should be taxed. However, I do believe that overweight people have the right to die. You know, when Mr. Chubalots has his heart attack, we don't need to be paying some hospital staff to bring him back.
The sooner people understand the concept of diminishing returns when it comes to their own health care, the better we would all feel. We should only treat diseases and conditions that have a good recovery rate, not the ones that make people come back as walking half-vegetables.
If anything is to be done about getting everyone in this country the healthcare they need alot of people are going to be inconvienced and the thing is this country and world is full of people who want to say "Hey thats great, yes I want this place to be better and have everyones needs met and for us all to get along..........but dont you dare do anything that makes me have to make a sacrifice for it because I want everyone to have free health care but I dont want to do anything for them to get it".[/QUOTE]
I don't believe that fatty foods should be taxed. However, I do believe that overweight people have the right to die. You know, when Mr. Chubalots has his heart attack, we don't need to be paying some hospital staff to bring him back.
The sooner people understand the concept of diminishing returns when it comes to their own health care, the better we would all feel. We should only treat diseases and conditions that have a good recovery rate, not the ones that make people come back as walking half-vegetables.
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This is inconsistent with your comment about desiring cloned meat for it's perceived cheapness, I suspect you are being disingenuous.
Back on topic I'd like to force fast food restaurants to post the caloric and fat content of food. A local restaurant around here does it and I know my family has found it pretty surprising, for example instead of opting for the fish dish in cream sauce you can get a simple pepper steak with significantly less calories - that's information that can help people make the right choices.
I also think that it makes sense for health providers to subsidize exercise and weight loss programs, after all a fitness trainer costs a hell of a lot less then a heart surgeon.[/QUOTE]
In Sweden, the nutritional value chart prints off with your receipt in restaurants.
This is inconsistent with your comment about desiring cloned meat for it's perceived cheapness, I suspect you are being disingenuous.
Back on topic I'd like to force fast food restaurants to post the caloric and fat content of food. A local restaurant around here does it and I know my family has found it pretty surprising, for example instead of opting for the fish dish in cream sauce you can get a simple pepper steak with significantly less calories - that's information that can help people make the right choices.
I also think that it makes sense for health providers to subsidize exercise and weight loss programs, after all a fitness trainer costs a hell of a lot less then a heart surgeon.[/QUOTE]
In Sweden, the nutritional value chart prints off with your receipt in restaurants.
[quote name='thrustbucket']In Sweden, the nutritional value chart prints off with your receipt in restaurants.[/QUOTE]
For the specific order? That's
ing genius.
I think sit-down restaurants should have their nutrition facts in the back of the menu or something, it would be really useful. Their shit usually isn't any better for you than fast food, so it would be nice to have that info when deciding what to eat.
For the specific order? That's
ing genius.I think sit-down restaurants should have their nutrition facts in the back of the menu or something, it would be really useful. Their shit usually isn't any better for you than fast food, so it would be nice to have that info when deciding what to eat.
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[quote name='SpazX']For the specific order? That's ing genius.
I think sit-down restaurants should have their nutrition facts in the back of the menu or something, it would be really useful. Their shit usually isn't any better for you than fast food, so it would be nice to have that info when deciding what to eat.[/QUOTE]
Yea, especially some of the ones you think are healthy. Subway tuna salad (I always knew tuna salad was horrible, but not everyone), some healthy sounding sandwich from Panera Bread is worse than eating like 2~3 Wendy's Baconators or something.
ing genius.I think sit-down restaurants should have their nutrition facts in the back of the menu or something, it would be really useful. Their shit usually isn't any better for you than fast food, so it would be nice to have that info when deciding what to eat.[/QUOTE]
Yea, especially some of the ones you think are healthy. Subway tuna salad (I always knew tuna salad was horrible, but not everyone), some healthy sounding sandwich from Panera Bread is worse than eating like 2~3 Wendy's Baconators or something.
[quote name='elessar123']Yea, especially some of the ones you think are healthy. Subway tuna salad (I always knew tuna salad was horrible, but not everyone), some healthy sounding sandwich from Panera Bread is worse than eating like 2~3 Wendy's Baconators or something.[/QUOTE]
Plain tuna with a little bit of mayo is good for you. Its high in healthy fats and protein.
Plain tuna with a little bit of mayo is good for you. Its high in healthy fats and protein.
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I think thrusty fooled you.
bread's done