Team Fortress 2 - Free to play....FOR-EV-ER...FOR-EV-ER...FOR-EV-ER

To all those who are yelling, yes, if you actually paid for the game you get a PROOF-OF-PURCHASE hat.

Hat Fortress gets another hat!
 
[quote name='natiev']still more news than a deal, you going to make a thread for every free to play game?[/QUOTE]

I would like to see a thread every time a pay to play game goes free.
 
Do you often get pissed off when you pay to see a movie in theaters or on dvd only to later find its on cable for free? That's about how this is. Stop complaining and continue to enjoy the game you likely paid for years ago.
 
I'm happy to say that I just downloaded and played TF2 for about an hour.
I'm sad to say that my only computer can barely run it on the lowest settings.
 
[quote name='Oaxan']I'm happy to say that I just downloaded and played TF2 for about an hour.
I'm sad to say that my only computer can barely run it on the lowest settings.[/QUOTE]
Really? My computer hasn't been updated in about 3 years (still have a wolfdale intel processor lol) and I can run this game at max settings, with other things in the background as well.
 
Chewbacca's Abortion;8599474]Really? My computer hasn't been updated in about 3 years (still have a wolfdale intel processor lol) and I can run this game at max settings said:
Mine's a 2007 laptop with a generic processor and video card, 2 gigs of RAM and takes 20 minutes just to turn on. I can't wait until I get the parts to build a new computer...
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[quote name='drbutchevil']Do you often get pissed off when you pay to see a movie in theaters or on dvd only to later find its on cable for free? That's about how this is. Stop complaining and continue to enjoy the game you likely paid for years ago.[/QUOTE]


I was gonna ask if people get pissed off at the other steam sales, like if they bought a game for $20 and then it goes on sale for $5.
Or how about consoles bundle packs?
 
[quote name='Oaxan']Mine's a 2007 laptop with a generic processor and video card, 2 gigs of RAM and takes 20 minutes just to turn on. I can't wait until I get the parts to build a new computer...[/QUOTE]
Oh, that sucks.
 
who cares if its free to play, just means more meat for the grinders. Loads of new folks jumping in for the first time being slaughtered by people who have been playing for awhile.

So your mad that you paid for it and others can play for free? quite whining, you get a hat!
Now put on your hat, load up some vintage marked weapons and kill noobs while idly pointing out that you were into it before it went mainstream.
Instant hipster cred
 
[quote name='gage006']Hope they'll still continue to support it with the updates as much as they have been =/ That's my biggest fear.[/QUOTE]

Why the hell would they stop supporting the game? They make thousands off of virtual items. It's the reason the game is free now. It sustains itself.

It's also the reason I stopped playing long ago. It just lost the plot. For me at least.

Meet the Medic was glorious, though.
 
Can I get a refund for the $60 I spent for Hellgate: London, and the $150 I spent on a lifetime membership, since the game shut down 14 months after launch, and is now going FTP and I'm getting nothing for being a loyal member?

Or the people that bought APB for $50, got to play for 3 months and got nothing, and will get nothing, when it goes FTP.

Yeah, STFU fellow Team Fortress fans. We've had 4 years of awesome game and updates. If you bought the game, you either got it in the Orange Box for $50 with 4 other games, or by itself for $20, and both were some of the best gaming values in the world. Be happy, since this will likely extend the life of your purchase for 5 more years at least.
 
[quote name='JasonTerminator']Can I get a refund for the $60 I spent for Hellgate: London, and the $150 I spent on a lifetime membership, since the game shut down 14 months after launch, and is now going FTP and I'm getting nothing for being a loyal member?

Or the people that bought APB for $50, got to play for 3 months and got nothing, and will get nothing, when it goes FTP.

Yeah, STFU fellow Team Fortress fans. We've had 4 years of awesome game and updates. If you bought the game, you either got it in the Orange Box for $50 with 4 other games, or by itself for $20, and both were some of the best gaming values in the world. Be happy, since this will likely extend the life of your purchase for 5 more years at least.[/QUOTE]
I got the Orange Box from Newegg for about $20 shortly after release IIRC, it was awesome.
 
[quote name='specialist']It just lost the plot. [/QUOTE]


I can honestly say there hasn't been a singular second in my thousand+ hours of playing that I ever played TF2 for 'The Plot' xD
 
[quote name='ChestyMan']I was gonna ask if people get pissed off at the other steam sales, like if they bought a game for $20 and then it goes on sale for $5.
[/QUOTE]

I've seen this happen a few times here, actually, so it doesn't surprise me that some people are upset about TF2 going F2P. But I agree, it's dumb to be upset.
 
This is a great game that everyone should try but there is a problem of getting into the community. Most of the matches usually ended up with me getting owned for a few hours by people who play the game too much and me getting frustrated. I know that happens in a lot of shooters (CoD, Halo, etc) but that doesn't excuse the problem. Still, free is free and people should try it.
 
[quote name='abhinav']This is a great game that everyone should try but there is a problem of getting into the community. Most of the matches usually ended up with me getting owned for a few hours by people who play the game too much and me getting frustrated. I know that happens in a lot of shooters (CoD, Halo, etc) but that doesn't excuse the problem. Still, free is free and people should try it.[/QUOTE]

Is there really a "play this game too much"? If you enjoy a game, why wouldn't you spend more hours on it to get better and better? There's no problem here, if you are just getting into the game, there is no way you will be playing on even ground skillwise with someone more experienced.
 
[quote name='abhinav']This is a great game that everyone should try but there is a problem of getting into the community. Most of the matches usually ended up with me getting owned for a few hours by people who play the game too much and me getting frustrated. I know that happens in a lot of shooters (CoD, Halo, etc) but that doesn't excuse the problem. Still, free is free and people should try it.[/QUOTE]


I would have to say that TF2 is easily one of the lesser versions of what you mention. The classes are rock paper scissors in such a way that you can easily be a noob and go out there and kill something, it just depends what you run into.

Pick a pyro and run around, you'll be killing plenty of stuff, even if a lot might be fire afterburn.
 
You bastard OP! My excedrin pm just kicked in and I see this!

J/K thanks for the news, I was thinking about buying this game in the past but didn't cause of limited friends who own the game. Consider this dl'd
 
I'm just glad that us former owners of TF2 keep the game even if you delete local content, unlike some other games. I'm all for having it go F2P, just let me keep it in my library, thanks. :)
 
[quote name='gotdott']Is there really a "play this game too much"? If you enjoy a game, why wouldn't you spend more hours on it to get better and better? There's no problem here, if you are just getting into the game, there is no way you will be playing on even ground skillwise with someone more experienced.[/QUOTE]

You're right, my line of "play this game too much" was a bit off. Though, I'm rather against games where a new player will die repeatedly for hours because a more experienced player has the ability to pick on them. Nothing wrong with having skilled players but there is more that Valve could have done to help new players get accustomed. I couldn't easily find a "noob" server where I could play people around my level and I thought the tutorial was rather poor actually.

[quote name='Pheace']I would have to say that TF2 is easily one of the lesser versions of what you mention. The classes are rock paper scissors in such a way that you can easily be a noob and go out there and kill something, it just depends what you run into.

Pick a pyro and run around, you'll be killing plenty of stuff, even if a lot might be fire afterburn.[/QUOTE]

You are right, TF2 is better then CoD in that way but I think Halo does a better job of easing players into the game with their ranked match difficulty system. The way I got a handle of the mechanics in TF2 was playing a medic and just watching how others play their class. It got me up to speed on abilities and map structuring to be team support.

Going free will probably create a glut of new players which should be nice for people just starting out, maybe I'll reinstall my copy this weekend.
 
to be perfectly honest between all the stupid hats and the microtransactions this is a perfect study on how to completely ruin an otherwise good game.

making it free after all that (since I already own it) and bringing in a bunch of annoying noobs is just another slap in the face to me.

at the very least make the free players only be able to play against each other.

inb4igetflamed for speaking the truth.
 
I have had this game for a couple of years (with the purchase of orange box) and have not played it. I did log into the game once after installing it, and just wondered something along the lines of "why am I doing this?" and logged out. I did play the original team fortress back in the day when it was released so maybe my tastes have changed and/or I grew up a little.
 
[quote name='retrad']to be perfectly honest between all the stupid hats and the microtransactions this is a perfect study on how to completely ruin an otherwise good game.

making it free after all that (since I already own it) and bringing in a bunch of annoying noobs is just another slap in the face to me.

at the very least make the free players only be able to play against each other.

inb4igetflamed for speaking the truth.[/QUOTE]
You are 100% right about this. I been a TF2 owner since summer of 2008 so I know all the work which went onto this game. It used to be a great FPS game until they turned it into this Korean MMO type game with all the hats and microtransactions. It's a completely different game nowadays that has become nothing like it used to be. Plus yeah, since it's free you will bring in every jackass and 12 year old (not complaining about bad players, complaining about all the idiots they will bring in because it' free) since they don't need to pay for it, making the community worse than it is already.

I miss the old tf2 days which were fun.
 
[quote name='Sir_Fragalot']You are 100% right about this. I been a TF2 owner since summer of 2008 so I know all the work which went onto this game. It used to be a great FPS game until they turned it into this Korean MMO type game with all the hats and microtransactions. It's a completely different game nowadays that has become nothing like it used to be. Plus yeah, since it's free you will bring in every jackass and 12 year old (not complaining about bad players, complaining about all the idiots they will bring in because it' free) since they don't need to pay for it, making the community worse than it is already.

I miss the old tf2 days which were fun.[/QUOTE]

Try it on 360. It's "vanilla" TF2.
 
[quote name='gomikeoh']Have fun.[/QUOTE]

Nice to let people know, but your original post didn't have any info whatsoever. Like a link, and confirmation of details.

In that regards, I would agree, it was a "fail." The deal itself is awesome, so thanks for contributing, but just learn to be informative in your initial posts to avoid the nonsense comments. =)
 
[quote name='mikejenks']Try it on 360. It's "vanilla" TF2.[/QUOTE]
Same on PS3. I don't mind the updates and the idea of unlocks, like when they first started adding weapons, it was a cool idea. It's just become over saturated with items/hats and became more about how many items/hats you can have more so then the core gameplay.
 
I know I'll kick up some angry "loyal" TF2 players by asking, but since we're all gamers, try not to hate too much.

If I were to play this on my laptop, could I use my 360 controller w/wireless PC adapter? I know it's not as good as a mouse, but seeing as I'd rather play someplace comfy like my couch/chair/bed, that doesn't really go with a mouse/laptop-keyboard setup.
 
Nice! I've got PS3 Orange Box and TF2 in that is garbage. Thanks OP (though your opening post could have been more informative) for the heads up!
 
[quote name='UNDERSTAR']If you guys hate free stuff especially TEAM FORTRESS 2, then you are all dirty filthy commies and we don't take kindly to dirty filthy commies around here. Am I rite boys?[/QUOTE]

Wouldn't commies like free stuff?
 
[quote name='retrad']to be perfectly honest between all the stupid hats and the microtransactions this is a perfect study on how to completely ruin an otherwise good game.

making it free after all that (since I already own it) and bringing in a bunch of annoying noobs is just another slap in the face to me.

at the very least make the free players only be able to play against each other.

inb4igetflamed for speaking the truth.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='Sir_Fragalot']You are 100% right about this. I been a TF2 owner since summer of 2008 so I know all the work which went onto this game. It used to be a great FPS game until they turned it into this Korean MMO type game with all the hats and microtransactions. It's a completely different game nowadays that has become nothing like it used to be. Plus yeah, since it's free you will bring in every jackass and 12 year old (not complaining about bad players, complaining about all the idiots they will bring in because it' free) since they don't need to pay for it, making the community worse than it is already.

I miss the old tf2 days which were fun.[/QUOTE]

You two are fucking idiots. THE HATS DON'T AFFECT GAMEPLAY. NEITHER DOES THE STORE. And if you're playing on a server where trading disrupts gameplay, then you're on the wrong server.

Seriously, I don't understand the argument that cosmetic items ruin a game somehow, or that having the option to buy weapons instead of obtaining them from crafting or drops (remember kiddies, everything that affects gameplay can be obtained in-game FOR FREE) does.

The game plays the same as it always has. If you already own it and don't want to put any more money into it, you don't need to. Not a cent.

So far, I haven't run into ANY new players on my favorite servers. Because of the way Valve set up the interface, most of the new players will probably end up playing on the new Valve servers that the new menu will dump you into automatically unless you select a specific server.

Ignore these fucktards, and give the game a shot on its own merits.

[quote name='abhinav']You are right, TF2 is better then CoD in that way but I think Halo does a better job of easing players into the game with their ranked match difficulty system. The way I got a handle of the mechanics in TF2 was playing a medic and just watching how others play their class. It got me up to speed on abilities and map structuring to be team support. [/QUOTE]

The game DOES have training modes now, including some class-specific ones. Unfortunately, I can't attest to their usefulness or lack thereof.

Also, the new Valve servers that you get when you just choose a gameplay mode from the main menu (at least last night) had a much lower quality of competition. Start with those, maybe.

[quote name='velvet396']I know I'll kick up some angry "loyal" TF2 players by asking, but since we're all gamers, try not to hate too much.

If I were to play this on my laptop, could I use my 360 controller w/wireless PC adapter? I know it's not as good as a mouse, but seeing as I'd rather play someplace comfy like my couch/chair/bed, that doesn't really go with a mouse/laptop-keyboard setup.[/QUOTE]

You can use the 360 controls with the PC game, yes. You may be at a bit of a disadvantage because it's just flat-out easier to aim with a mouse (there's a reason why we don't have PC/console multiplayer), but give it a shot. :)
 
Look at it this way, the money that would have been spent on the game could potentially go towards community made content (hats, weapons, map stamps) and give them money that would otherwise go directly to Valve. Sure, they get a cut, aside from the map stamps, but most goes to the people making the content.

I've played the game more than any other game in my life and I don't think it has been ruined at all. I like being seeing huge updates for a game that's been going on this long. I want all the new Medic items, but I will likely just craft them like everyone else.
 
[quote name='Gothic Walrus']You two are fucking idiots. THE HATS DON'T AFFECT GAMEPLAY. NEITHER DOES THE STORE. And if you're playing on a server where trading disrupts gameplay, then you're on the wrong server.

Seriously, I don't understand the argument that cosmetic items ruin a game somehow, or that having the option to buy weapons instead of obtaining them from crafting or drops (remember kiddies, everything that affects gameplay can be obtained in-game FOR FREE) does.

The game plays the same as it always has. If you already own it and don't want to put any more money into it, you don't need to. Not a cent.

So far, I haven't run into ANY new players on my favorite servers. Because of the way Valve set up the interface, most of the new players will probably end up playing on the new Valve servers that the new menu will dump you into automatically unless you select a specific server.

Ignore these fucktards, and give the game a shot on its own merits.[/QUOTE]

Oh I never had a problem with hats or the store. My problem was when I was playing this game heavily, it would take me a painfully long time to get an item, and when I did it would be one of the same 5 items most of the time. It really annoyed me seeing that I was getting the same items over and over. Sure I could of just crafted them but I was still getting items so painfully slow it was taking me forever to even get anywhere, where other people I played with would be getting items a lot faster. I can't play the game now due to my gfx card dying, and the game is still a fun game, I just don't like the whole "randomness" of the item system because I never had any luck with it. At it's core, it's still one of the best FPS's on the PC.
 
I miss the old TFC days. Those conc jumping maps were awesome! I got rid of my gaming PC before TF2 came out, and no one's ever really sold me on getting TF2 for my 360...
 
Honestly hats and all the extra's they throw out are all optional. To me its all about the maps and gameplay so personally I love this game.

It makes sense to go free to play seeing as how this game has gone on sale so many times it just was a matter of time.

My only issue is that now the servers are overloaded with players which isn't a bad thing but my favorite servers are just crowded all the time lol.
 
[quote name='mikejenks']Try it on 360. It's "vanilla" TF2.[/QUOTE]

I'd agree with this if the Demo and Soldier weren't unbelievably OP.

Funny how this game ended up turning into Battlefield Heroes.
 
[quote name='specialist']I'd agree with this if the Demo and Soldier weren't unbelievably OP.

Funny how this game ended up turning into Battlefield Heroes.[/QUOTE]

But aren't buffs and special items effectively rentals? You can be good with the stock/unlockable TF2 weapons, and newer craft weapons are usually balanced.

I was excited about Battlefield Play4Free until I realized that you pretty much have to spend money, and keep spending money to be on equal footing day one.
 
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