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[quote name='Soodmeg']Oden with another 0 point game. Seriously...I know what you guys are saying with give him time but this guy is nothing but shoes on the court.[/quote]

He's pretty good at racking up fouls off the ball though. Can't even remember if any of his fouls were from trying to block a shot.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']Seriously...what the hell Lakers fans? Is there a reason why you are the only people in the world that cant go 5 seconds with some visual aid? Its not even just this site...everywhere you go Lakers fans seemed to need to have Kobe's face plastered all over everything around them.

Stop posting pics of that $$$$a. (please)
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This so tempted me to post the most obnoxious Kobe pic I could find, but I'm not that kind of Lakers fan. (Though I did plaster my friend's cubicle the day after Kobe scored 81. He hates Kobe, and I knew it would really piss him off. It was hilarious.) Instead, here's a picture of Zan Tabak:
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Should've been a Flagrant 1 on Rondo. Hit Miller right in the mouth and was nowhere near the ball.

But I understand why they didn't call it. no way refs call that on the home team with 2 seconds left.
 
I don't get why Miller didn't hit the rim with that second free throw. The only good reason I can think of is that he was really banged up.
 
For which side? Haha, they didn't call fouls when there was contact, but called them when the guy clearly didn't even brush the jersey.

They really should have called that flagrant on Rondo. His hand hit the player's head and away from the ball, there was blood, call it. Circumstances should never dictate whether or not a ref will make the call or not, that just shows bias and/or inconsistent referreing. (I don't know if I spelled it right :p)

Yea yea, star players tend to get star treatment, but lets try to be fair as much as possible ok? Another rule I'd have is not to call a foul when the shooter clearly jumps INTO the defender. I'm tired of that BS call no matter who is playing, it's stupid, it's intentions are clear, and it shouldn't be rewarded. THIS IS NOT SOCCER.

I think Miller was just so out of it by then, it looked like he didn't even want to shoot the free throws.
The Bulls just made a lot of errors at the end. Gordon, even though he made it, should NOT have taken that shot. Take the clock down as low as possible then drive in.
 
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Man... what an exhausting game. Noah and Hinrich looked great out there, and Ben Gordon just made some ungodly impossible shots. But in the 4th, the Bulls got fucked on a few non-calls while Rose reminded us several times that he is, in fact, a rookie.. In OT, Paul Pierce hit the same motherfucking shot over John Salmons that he already made 4-5 times prior, and then Miller of course got screwed out of what should have been a flagrant call. Augh.

This has been an excellent series, but it's frustrating to know that if not for the 3 by Ray Allen in game 2 and the game winner by Paul Pierce tonight, this series could easily be over in Chicago's favor. But I guess that's the difference between a defending champion and a team full of players with limited playoff experience, a lot of them playing together for less than half a season.
 
[quote name='DT778']Miller should have went to the rim with more authority than that layup.[/quote]
I was saying the same thing after I watched him jog to it. Dude looked like he was in slow mo, the closest guy was like 15 ft away and they still caught up to him :lol:

He's a big man, but I mean come on, it's the playoffs....
 
[quote name='Inf^Shini']I was saying the same thing after I watched him jog to it. Dude looked like he was in slow mo, the closest guy was like 15 ft away and they still caught up to him :lol:

He's a big man, but I mean come on, it's the playoffs....[/QUOTE]

It's also Brad Miller.

These playoffs series further supports my desire for a new referee review system within the NBA. Once you're a NBA ref, you're one for life, with zero risk of losing your job outside of you know...fixing games.

There seems to be no penalties even. I propose some kind of fining system for refs who completely blow a call (or a "salary garnishing" system if you don't like the word "fining.") This could be done throughout the season or after the season. This allows for a system that ties a ref's performance into their overall salary (more blown calls = more fines)

I understand that the officials review every single game they call, but still, there needs to be more accountability. Too many times have officials changed the outcome of a game because of bad/blown calls and as a basketball fan, that's not fun to see. This isn't just in reference to the shot Brad Miller took to the face because of Rondo, this is in general.
 
[quote name='Matt Young']But in the 4th, the Bulls got fucked on a few non-calls[/QUOTE]
Ray Allen fouled out on some of the weakest foul calls of this entire series. Miller grabbed Allen and held him on his 6th foul (the double foul) and laughed his ass off when the ref called it. Probably shouldn't have shown up the ref like that, didn't help him later when he wanted that flagrant. He still had two free throws in a 2 point game, and a rebound opportunity after an intentional miss, both of which he blew.
 
[quote name='Matt Young']This has been an excellent series, but it's frustrating to know that if not for the 3 by Ray Allen in game 2 and the game winner by Paul Pierce tonight, this series could easily be over in Chicago's favor. But I guess that's the difference between a defending champion and a team full of players with limited playoff experience, a lot of them playing together for less than half a season.[/QUOTE]

In game 1, Pierce missed a free throw in regulation that would've won the game. This is the same guy where Salmons traveling call was reversed in the final minute I believe, which is something I don't think that's ever been done. And if not for Gordon's 3 in game 3 to send it into double ot, Boston wins. What's the point of stating "what if" scenario when every game (except game 3)?

btw, how you been? Not sure if you remember me, but its KINGKURT553 from WG.
 
[quote name='Inf^Shini']
Another rule I'd have is not to call a foul when the shooter clearly jumps INTO the defender. I'm tired of that BS call no matter who is playing, it's stupid, it's intentions are clear, and it shouldn't be rewarded. THIS IS NOT SOCCER.

I think Miller was just so out of it by then, it looked like he didn't even want to shoot the free throws.
The Bulls just made a lot of errors at the end. Gordon, even though he made it, should NOT have taken that shot. Take the clock down as low as possible then drive in.[/QUOTE]

This. I don't remember when the jumping into people to draw the foul started, but it's getting to the point that it's ridiculous. Gordon throws up some wild looking shots, and he's lucky some of them go in, his shot selection is awful. Bulls had a chance to win this one, but they let it slip away. I can't for the life of me figure out why they let Salmons play Pierce straight up for that last shot he made. It's not like he stopped him the previous two times.:)
 
[quote name='DT778']Miller should have went to the rim with more authority than that layup.[/quote]

This.

Although, this series has been very physically on both sides. Yeah, the Celtics bully people with over aggressive play and you know what? It works and I agree with the no call for that. If you can simply play so aggressive that you opponent doesnt even want to win I am all for it. But I agree its up to the officials to regulate a game which they are doing a horrid job at. (I have been saying this for years!)

I know it was a shot to the head but that was the biggest flop I have ever seen by a person not in a Spurs uniform. From the time he caught the ball Miller was praying for a foul. He wasnt looking to win the game, he was wishing the refs to bail him out and because of that I am glad Rondo didnt get called for anything.

There is no reason why a 7ft 260 pound guy should be trying to finger roll the ball in from the god damn free throw line. You take it in like a bitch you get a bitch call.

Other than that, hell the more aggressive the better. I am tired of weak fouls and player complaining when their nails break. Bring back the Bad Boy Pistons of yesterday when you had to earn your way to the basket. Thats why I like the Celtics (although I am not a fan of any one bball team) if you are not willing to sacrifice your body you can no win against them.
 
It makes me so happy knowing the Celtics are going no where in the playoffs. They are acting like a bunch of little bitches (Garnett needs to shut the fuck up and stop barking at the Bulls when his ass is on the bench). I guess Garnett does have a reason to act like a bitch though.... it only took him playing with 2 other Hall-of-Famers to get a Championship :roll:.

Oh and if that foul at the end of the game was reversed last night and Brad Miller hit Rondo like that it would have been the quickest Flagrant foul call in the history of the NBA and everyone knows that's true.
 
Too bad about the Spurs they need to think about getting some better bench players and a better center.

We know the Mavs won't go far, and I'm enjoying watching the Celtics struggle. You already got a ring, besides Garnett is the only one who really deserved the ring since he worked his ass off with the T-wolves. Pierce as I said last year isn't deserving. Allen could have done it with the Sonics...

Anywho Id say Cavs and Lakers most likely
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']I know it was a shot to the head but that was the biggest flop I have ever seen by a person not in a Spurs uniform. From the time he caught the ball Miller was praying for a foul. He wasnt looking to win the game, he was wishing the refs to bail him out and because of that I am glad Rondo didnt get called for anything.

There is no reason why a 7ft 260 pound guy should be trying to finger roll the ball in from the god damn free throw line. You take it in like a bitch you get a bitch call. [/QUOTE]
Thats exactly how I saw it. He probably still gets the foul with the opportunity to take the lead from the free throw line if he just takes it hard to the basket. He's got no one to blame but himself for that sequence.

That was a brilliantly designed play by the Bulls, too. They knew the Celtics were focusing on Gordon and used him as a decoy to get Miller the ball in the lane with no one between him and the hoop. He was going to get fouled hard either way but if he took it hard to the net and dunked it there would be absolutely no way to stop him.

Even if Miller gets the flagrant call, its 2 shots and the ball. He still got the 2 shots and missed 1, so the Bulls would've been down 1, inbounding the ball with 2 seconds left. Not likely they make that shot. And if thats a flagrant, then any number of things that game could've been a flagrant. Heinrich throwing down Perkins, Rondo getting hit in the head on a couple of drives, etc. And besides, Ben Gordon stepped out of bounds before Tony Allen fouled him and gave him 3 free throws that tied the game with 27 seconds left.

As for the peanut gallery, there have been very few championship teams that didn't have at least 2 or 3 hall of famers or at least superstar caliber players who might be borderline. The only real exception is Detroit.
 
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[quote name='dafoomie'] Heinrich throwing down Perkins, Rondo getting hit in the head on a couple of drives, etc. And besides, Ben Gordon stepped out of bounds before Tony Allen fouled him and gave him 3 free throws that tied the game with 27 seconds left.
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This is pretty much all bullshit. I'd like to know how you know Gordon stepped out when there were 0 camera angles that were even close to being able to see the back of his foot. There is no fucking way you can bring up foul calls either, the Bulls were getting raped for the majority of the game. Of Kendrick Perkins 6 blocks he actually touched the ball twice, hitting hand and body the other times. Rose and Noah were getting absolutely raped inside on both drives to the lane and on the boards. The officiating in this series has been very one-sided, which isn't too unusual. The NBA obviously wants the Celtics to move on so they will get the majority of the calls. It's just how it works in the NBA. Who knows, it may just be karma for all the years in the 90's when Jordan and the Bulls got all the calls.
 
Rondo doesn't get a suspension? What a fuckin' joke by Stern....

Horry hipchecks Nash and gets two games.....

While pretty boy Rondo knocks Miller down and draws blood....he hit him in the head whether he was goin' for the ball or not....

If i'm Gordon/Rose/Hinrich/Noah/Salmons/Miller.....Rondo is a dead man walkin'...
 
[quote name='ph33r m3']Rondo doesn't get a suspension? What a fuckin' joke by Stern....

Horry hipchecks Nash and gets two games.....

While pretty boy Rondo knocks Miller down and draws blood....he hit him in the head whether he was goin' for the ball or not....

If i'm Gordon/Rose/Hinrich/Noah/Salmons/Miller.....Rondo is a dead man walkin'...[/QUOTE]

i couldn't agree even more..

It should have been a flagrant foul on Rondo to even suspension
 
The sad fact is that it's the playoffs and no ref is going to call that. If it were a regular season game, probably. But in the playoffs? No way. I totally think it was a flagrant foul, when Rondo swipes his right arm, he's nowhere near the ball, just Miller's face.

But given the context, if a ref did call that a flagrant and the Bulls wound up winning, they would get absolutely skewered by the media and fans would've started throwing shit onto the floor guaranteed.
 
[quote name='cgarb84']It makes me so happy knowing the Celtics are going no where in the playoffs. They are acting like a bunch of little bitches (Garnett needs to shut the fuck up and stop barking at the Bulls when his ass is on the bench). I guess Garnett does have a reason to act like a bitch though.... it only took him playing with 2 other Hall-of-Famers to get a Championship :roll:.

Oh and if that foul at the end of the game was reversed last night and Brad Miller hit Rondo like that it would have been the quickest Flagrant foul call in the history of the NBA and everyone knows that's true.[/quote]

Oh please. Cry me a fucking river with this. Are you a lakers fan?

Not that I am hating on the lakers...just that you guys seem to be very quick to dismiss when Shaq was doing everything short of stabbing people on the court when the Lakers went for 3.

So is the new cool thing to do is to hate on the Celtics?

You guys are kinda sounding like some bitches now. Like I said, I am not a fan of any one bball team and I think some of you are going a little over the top with the random hate on the C's.

The C's play very physically...you dont like..take your ball and go home. Their game plan is hard fouls and forcing people to over come both mentally and physically. Its up to the Refs, (which I have said have done a piss poor job in ALL GAMES for the last 10 years) to regulate how much they are allowed to do. Its like how the NBA used to be.....you know when you could actually play defense and the best team usually won...not the team who slipped the Ref a 20 before hand. The C's have always played like this as well as the Pistons, I dont know why all of a sudden is "cheating."

This is why the NBA sucks ass now, everyone wants the refs to decide everything. Their team isnt hard enough so they look to the refs to bail them out instead of taking it into their own hands. If you think Rondo is "protected" by the refs than take his ass out of the air and send a message that you are not going to let the refs decide the game. I see you guys are not even mentioning the fact that Miller missed both free throws thus loosing them the game. The game was put in the hands of a player who fucking blew it....and you guys want to complain about the refs?


You lost that game not because of Rondo's hit on your 7ft pussy of a big man but your pussy of a head coach. If he felt the Bulls were not getting a fair shake at fouls he should have sent in Jerome James or Tim Thomas to take out Perice or Rondo and send a message. But he didnt...he cried to the media about a hard foul that put his team in a postion to win and his player failed at it.



Can we go back to real basketball anytime soon?
 
The NBA: where fan jealousy happens!

[quote name='cgarb84']The NBA obviously wants the Celtics to move on so they will get the majority of the calls.[/quote]
:rofl: Because when you want a team to move on, you call fouls on their best current shooter for working around picks. The Celtics will be fortunate to make it to the Eastern finals.

edit: Oy.. almost had a fight break out between Miami/ATL. And there is a truly BS flagrant on Wade. Just because the guy with the ball fell and landed badly doesn't make it a fucking flagrant. Wade went to block a layup/dunk from behind, ended up with some contact in midair. That's a foul, no more.

These refs are really not doing themselves any favors lately.
 
[quote name='cgarb84']This is pretty much all bullshit. I'd like to know how you know Gordon stepped out when there were 0 camera angles that were even close to being able to see the back of his foot. There is no fucking way you can bring up foul calls either, the Bulls were getting raped for the majority of the game. Of Kendrick Perkins 6 blocks he actually touched the ball twice, hitting hand and body the other times. Rose and Noah were getting absolutely raped inside on both drives to the lane and on the boards. The officiating in this series has been very one-sided, which isn't too unusual. The NBA obviously wants the Celtics to move on so they will get the majority of the calls. It's just how it works in the NBA. Who knows, it may just be karma for all the years in the 90's when Jordan and the Bulls got all the calls.[/quote]

Oh by the way. You are wrong.

He did step out of bounds....need proof? Look at ESPN.

By Billy Simmons.

"So when Rondo walloped Miller across the face on that climactic drive Tuesday night, it was his single smartest play of his phenomenal first round. He had no chance of blocking the shot, and he had to hit Miller as hard as he could to prevent the and-one, so screw it ... SMACK! (He even admitted this after the game.) Since the motion technically looked like Rondo was swiping at the ball -- even though his hand wasn't within two feet of it -- the officials couldn't call a flagrant and that was that. If Bulls fans want to whine about it, fine, just remember that (A) Boston's best clutch guy (Ray Allen) fouled out on two of the worst calls of the playoffs, and (B) Ben Gordon stepped out of bounds right as he got fouled by Tony "Why Am I In The Game Again?" Allen for three game-tying free throws in the final 30 seconds. Sweeping incompetence will eventually even out over time."


http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/090429&sportCat=nba
 
WHHHHHHHHAAAATTTT?

A fucking flagrant 1 called on D-wade for going after the ball? The refs are completely horrid in the NBA, just completely horrid. Players dont know what they can do any more...you might as well just stand at half court and stare at each other beacuse this isnt basketball..this is a god damn circus show.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']Can we go back to real basketball anytime soon?[/quote]
I wish we could, but it seems like every sport is continually making itself less of a man's game with no intentions of letting up.

One of my friend's told me a couple years ago he stopped watching sports and just stuck to UFC.
 
[quote name='Soodmeg']Oh by the way. You are wrong.

He did step out of bounds....need proof? Look at ESPN.

By Billy Simmons.

"So when Rondo walloped Miller across the face on that climactic drive Tuesday night, it was his single smartest play of his phenomenal first round. He had no chance of blocking the shot, and he had to hit Miller as hard as he could to prevent the and-one, so screw it ... SMACK! (He even admitted this after the game.) Since the motion technically looked like Rondo was swiping at the ball -- even though his hand wasn't within two feet of it -- the officials couldn't call a flagrant and that was that. If Bulls fans want to whine about it, fine, just remember that (A) Boston's best clutch guy (Ray Allen) fouled out on two of the worst calls of the playoffs, and (B) Ben Gordon stepped out of bounds right as he got fouled by Tony "Why Am I In The Game Again?" Allen for three game-tying free throws in the final 30 seconds. Sweeping incompetence will eventually even out over time."


http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/090429&sportCat=nba[/QUOTE]

Heads up bro, if you want proof don't quote Bill "Wait, they're is a team outside of Boston?" Simmons.
 
[quote name='ph33r m3']Heads up bro, if you want proof don't quote Bill "Wait, they're is a team outside of Boston?" Simmons.[/quote]


Exactly...his articles are a joke anyways.

I hope Del Negro puts Tim Thomas in the game tomorrow just to knock the fuck outta Rondo for the little bitch that he is.

Don't get me wrong, I like Ray Allen but Garnet and Pierce are 2 of the biggest dbags in the game, besides James Posey of course, who by the way played for the Celtics! :lol:
 
[quote name='ph33r m3']Heads up bro, if you want proof don't quote Bill "Wait, they're is a team outside of Boston?" Simmons.[/quote]

[quote name='Blinkster']Exactly...his articles are a joke anyways.

I hope Del Negro puts Tim Thomas in the game tomorrow just to knock the fuck outta Rondo for the little bitch that he is.

Don't get me wrong, I like Ray Allen but Garnet and Pierce are 2 of the biggest dbags in the game, besides James Posey of course, who by the way played for the Celtics! :lol:[/quote]

Oh so is that what we are doing? :roll:

If someone makes a statement, someone else calls bullshit, then said statement is backed up my a ESPN analyst we just get to pull a biased card and shrugged it off right? If he stepped out of bounds he stepped out of bounds. I saw the replay and his foot seem pretty far back.

So why is Rondo a bitch again? Because he fouled a guy? Does that make Michael Jordan a bitch? Or maybe Isiah Thomas? I have seen both do their fair share of fouling in close games. Or are we just following the sheep around and calling C's players bitches just to sound cool?

This thread is becoming less about play off basketball and more of a circle jerk of people getting off by randomly hating the C's. Can we have a little more NBA discussion and a little less "_______is a bitch because uhhh...he is a bitch," post please.
 
Soodmeg you are a fucking retard. A known moron of an ESPN analyst (aren't all ESPN analysts a joke....... nevermind) says Gordon stepped out of bounds........ DOES HE HAVE fuckING PROOF?!?!!? Well then shit I say Gordon didn't step out of bounds, I must be right. Apparently having no evidence of any kind is good enough if you work for ESPN. Ray Allen's foul calls were borderline at best I will agree, but 2 wrongs doesn't erase the 20 previous no calls on Rose and Noah inside. Seriously, the refing was a joke.

And I like how you said Miller blew the game anyways by missing his free throws. Too bad if it was a flagrant 1 they would've got the ball back afterwards anyways. Sure there was only 2 seconds left but look what happened on the inbounds to Miller, that play took less than 2 seconds, whose to say they wouldn't of had another great scoring chance like that again?

Also any Celtics fan calling Brad Miller a pussy is hilarious to me. If I recall correctly last year Paul fucking Pierce got taken off the court in a fuckING WHEELCHAIR only to come back in the game like 5 minutes later and act 100%. Pierce is a woman.
 
[quote name='Blinkster']Exactly...his articles are a joke anyways.

I hope Del Negro puts Tim Thomas in the game tomorrow just to knock the fuck outta Rondo for the little bitch that he is.

Don't get me wrong, I like Ray Allen but Garnet and Pierce are 2 of the biggest dbags in the game, besides James Posey of course, who by the way played for the Celtics! :lol:[/quote]

But...I thought his articles were supposed to be funny? Which they are. So Howard was suspended for Game 6. Game 7 is imminent.
 
Grade A quality internet macho bullshit complete with over the top swearing to compensate for your lack of actually substance.

As I have said numerous times, I am not a fan of any one team but I for one and kinda tired of the constant tough sports guy act. The thread as quickly degraded into 10% NBA discussion and 90% hate/defend the C's. Who the fuck cares?

3 pages and we havent even mentioned a single other team.

Plus the stuff that you are posting is so full of bias that its painfully to go through. Just like a dumbass fan you blame the refs and the C's for losing when it was the Bulls who lost a 11 point lead at the end of the 4th QRT. I also see that you have failed to mention that Miller missed both the backboard and the rim on his 2nd free throw thus making it a automatic turnover. All the while having Ray Allen already fouled out.

The Bulls also missed six of 10 shots down the stretch, had three shots blocked by Kendrick Perkins with 2 turnovers by goldon boy Derrick Rose and gave up eight Boston baskets.

How much more bitching can you do about the game? The bulls lost beacuse they couldnt close. Bottom line. Drop your internet tough guy act because its old and tired.
 
[quote name='KingBroly']But...I thought his articles were supposed to be funny? Which they are. So Howard was suspended for Game 6. Game 7 is imminent.[/quote]

That series has gone back and forth but for some reason isnt that exciting to watch. Hedo last second heroics was great (although it seems that everyone should have know that Hedo wasnt going to drive to the basket...he is a six ten 3 point shooter....he is pulling up) I havent followed that series that close.

Dont forget that the Magic also lose Courtney Lee which Howard also took out with a elbow to the face. I think that is a huge blow because they might of still got a win if just howard was out.

Lee has stepped up in the play offs thus far and if he is going to be really banged up from that elbow the Magic are in for some trouble as they lose their spark.

I guess I will watch the Hornets get killed tonight. They have really dissapointed me this year. Posey and Peja just look old. Although I love CP3 he just doesnt have that look that he did last year, that look of a superstar who is willing and able to carry his team through the play offs. They need to get him some young talent quick if they want to compete next year.
 
[quote name='cgarb84']This is pretty much all bullshit. I'd like to know how you know Gordon stepped out when there were 0 camera angles that were even close to being able to see the back of his foot.[/quote]
You obviously didn't watch the Boston broadcast that did, TNT is never on the ball with replays.

[quote name='cgarb84']the Bulls were getting raped for the majority of the game. Of Kendrick Perkins 6 blocks he actually touched the ball twice, hitting hand and body the other times. Rose and Noah were getting absolutely raped inside on both drives to the lane and on the boards.[/quote]
How many of those moving picks that you guys complain about did Miller and Noah set? How many times did Rondo get hammered on a drive? How many fouls was Ray Allen called for when he was trying to get around picks? How about the guy that basically jumped on Rondo's back for a rebound?

My point is not that Chicago is getting the better of the calls, the Celtics certainly did not benefit from the officiating (they had their best shooter limited to 26 minutes and fouled out with 5 minutes to go on ticky tack fouls).

[quote name='cgarb84']Who knows, it may just be karma for all the years in the 90's when Jordan and the Bulls got all the calls.[/QUOTE]
So you do remember Jordan shoving Bryon Russell on the final shot of his career to win the championship in 98.

Paul Pierce. Stabbed 11 times during training camp a few weeks before the season. Needed lung surgery, was within minutes of death, and was half an inch away from being stabbed in the heart. Started all 82 games that year. Some pussy, I'm sure you've personally overcome more than that. He sprained his knee, I'm sorry that he wasn't able to make that diagnosis instantly for you and that the team took precautions to make sure he didn't injure himself further. A lot of players would not have played through that knee sprain, let alone come back 5 minutes later.

You might remember a game in Chicago a couple years ago where Shaq went down and thought his career was over. Diagnosis? Mild knee sprain. Every player in the NBA fears blowing their knee out and freaks out about pain there. They're trained to take every precaution not to cause further injury until they're examined.
 
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[quote name='Soodmeg']Oh by the way. You are wrong.

He did step out of bounds....need proof? Look at ESPN.

By Billy Simmons.

"So when Rondo walloped Miller across the face on that climactic drive Tuesday night, it was his single smartest play of his phenomenal first round. He had no chance of blocking the shot, and he had to hit Miller as hard as he could to prevent the and-one, so screw it ... SMACK! (He even admitted this after the game.) Since the motion technically looked like Rondo was swiping at the ball -- even though his hand wasn't within two feet of it -- the officials couldn't call a flagrant and that was that. If Bulls fans want to whine about it, fine, just remember that (A) Boston's best clutch guy (Ray Allen) fouled out on two of the worst calls of the playoffs, and (B) Ben Gordon stepped out of bounds right as he got fouled by Tony "Why Am I In The Game Again?" Allen for three game-tying free throws in the final 30 seconds. Sweeping incompetence will eventually even out over time."


http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/090429&sportCat=nba[/quote]


Hahahahaaaaaa.......some douche "analyst" from ESPN said Gordon stepped out of bounds without having any camera angles to prove that.....and you believe that? I genuinely feel sorry for you if you take the word of someone that works for ESPN.
 
So did anyone else catch the end of the Hawks/Heat game?

Josh Smith tried to do a between the legs dunk and completely bombed it. Trying to find a video now.
 
[quote name='bg88']Hahahahaaaaaa.......some douche "analyst" from ESPN said Gordon stepped out of bounds without having any camera angles to prove that.....and you believe that? I genuinely feel sorry for you if you take the word of someone that works for ESPN.[/quote]

What? I have no reason not to believe him. The thing is my reason for believing him seems much more solid than your reason for not believing....which from my understanding is simply because he is a "douche."

I said, I saw the replay and I think he was out of bounds.

I have checked a couple of ESPN and NBA.com articles and it seems to be either the writers says he was out of bounds or doesnt even mention it happening.

But you guys want to talk about proof? What the fuck proof have you guys provided other than, "That guys a bitch...this guys a douche?" :roll:
 
Like I said last year...you don't see Pierce carrying his team by himself, unlike T-mac did in 02, pretty good run with Orlando there.

Don't get me wrong I like Garnett, but I can't stand Pierce....now if they only let "Starbury" play a little more. Also the Heat lost...I'm sure the Hawks will finish them off
 
[quote name='kube00']Like I said last year...you don't see Pierce carrying his team by himself, unlike Tmac did in 02.

Don't get me wrong I like Garnett, but I can't stand Pierce....now if they only let "Starbury" play a little more[/quote]

Did you see the stat on Starbury?

His efficiency rating was like a - 17. Which means if he would have played the whole game the celtics would have lost something like 192 - 28. He is horrid.

Also, I dont understand your reasoning...your knock against him is that his team mates are good? How can you take away from a guy beacuse management put good players around him?

And how the hell are you comparing Tracy "I cant get out of the first round and my team is doing fine without me," Mcgrady to Paul Perice? 1 has won a championship the other couldnt never find a way to lead his team past 1 single round......and their best oppurtunity now is with him not playing.

All, I am saying is that you guys seem to have some completely off the wall unfounded reasons to hate the C's players.
 
[quote name='kube00']Like I said last year...you don't see Pierce carrying his team by himself, unlike T-mac did in 02, pretty good run with Orlando there.

Don't get me wrong I like Garnett, but I can't stand Pierce....now if they only let "Starbury" play a little more. Also the Heat lost...I'm sure the Hawks will finish them off[/quote]
Pierce kept the Celtics relevant and somewhat watchable for years with several players who wouldn't even make the roster now... That fact that he isn't carrying the team now the way he is capable of doesn't mean much to me. Right now he just seems physically spent making up for KG's absence and the weaker bench, that or maybe hiding an injury.

Also, Paul went further into the playoffs with Antoine Walker as his best offensive teammate than T.Mac has ever gone.

Marbury has had minutes, and he is still playing tentatively, passing up shots even when open. It's hard to blame a coach for sitting a guy like that. But they need bench scoring from somebody, so hopefully Marbury gets his head straight at some point.
 
[quote name='TruthinessFC']Marbury has had minutes, and he is still playing tentatively, passing up shots even when open. It's hard to blame a coach for sitting a guy like that. But they need bench scoring from somebody, so hopefully Marbury gets his head straight at some point.[/QUOTE]
I never thought I'd see Stephon Marbury afraid to take an open jumpshot.
 
I never thought this would occur, but I completely agree with Soodmeg. Chicago fans dismissing Simmons for the sole fact he's a Celtics fan is hypocritical. He has as much proof that Gordon was out of bounds as you do that he wasn't. Unless, of course, you're taking the ref's calls as evidence. The same refs that you've accused of fucking calls up the entire series. Every game could have gone either way except for game 3, I suggest stop bitching and enjoy the best first round playoff series in years.
 
To be clear I am not saying the Bulls lost this game because of the refs I am saying the refs were terrible overall. The no flagrant call on Rondo COULD have cost the Bulls the game but I don't think it did. I have always thought the Celtics would win this series I just didn't think it would be this close, the Bulls are an ok team right now but not a great team by any stretch.

And yeah Derrick Rose is the golden boy you know why? In three years he will be the best point guard in the league making people look like fools. As soon as he develops a jumper game over good night all.

And don't even try to defend Paul Pierce by bringing up the whole stabbing thing. That doesn't have one single damn thing to do with the fact that last year he got taken off the court in a wheelchair only to come back 10 minutes later 100%.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']I never thought I'd see Stephon Marbury afraid to take an open jumpshot.[/quote]
Me neither. I'm pretty sure everyone was dumbfounded on that play, which is why Rondo probably missed it after Marbury dished it to him :lol:

You finally get minutes on the court and you're gonna waste em' like that???
 
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And how the hell are you comparing Tracy "I cant get out of the first round and my team is doing fine without me," Mcgrady to Paul Perice? 1 has won a championship the other couldnt never find a way to lead his team past 1 single round......and their best oppurtunity now is with him not playing.
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Hmm.....you keep complaining about the unwarranted hate on the Celtics yet here you are hating on Tracy McGrady. Are you honestly trying to say that the Rockets wouldn't be in their current position if McGrady was healthy?

All I'm going to say about Paul Pierce is any hate that Pierce gets he brings it upon himself. Paul Pierce asserted himself as a pussy last year when he left that game in a wheelchair and "miraculously" came back 30 seconds later and put on a "heroic" performance. Paul Pierce calling himself the "best player in the world" was more of a joke than him leaving a game in a wheelchair. Paul Pierce needed 2 hall-of-famers to come to Boston to give him a championship and make him look like a better player than he is.

But I congratulate you on following the crowd on the Tracy McGrady hate. I guarantee you if McGrady had Ray Allen and Garnett on his team he would have a championship too.
 
bg88 has a pt, its true, until Garnett and Allen came Pierce was going nowhere. W/o Garnett it truly shows how dependent the Celtics are on their 3 stars, and that the other two cannot fill the void KG leaves. Although if Pierce was out I'm sure Allen and KG would be enough...

As for Marbury we all know he's a joke that's at least something we can agree on
Alright now how about those Mavs?
 
T Mac had Artest and Yao, and they improved dramatically once he was out for the season. He is perhaps the most unclutch, lackadaisical, selfish star in the NBA.

I blame the media for the 'miraculous' return shit with Pierce in the finals last year. He hurt his knee, probably feared the worst, and he/his trainers didn't want to possibly injure it further. He gets wheeled off as a precautionary action, finds out it isn't as bad as they thought, loaded him up with cortisone, and he played his ass off. I guarantee you the man was barely able to walk the next day because of it.
 
[quote name='bg88']Hmm.....you keep complaining about the unwarranted hate on the Celtics yet here you are hating on Tracy McGrady. Are you honestly trying to say that the Rockets wouldn't be in their current position if McGrady was healthy?

All I'm going to say about Paul Pierce is any hate that Pierce gets he brings it upon himself. Paul Pierce asserted himself as a pussy last year when he left that game in a wheelchair and "miraculously" came back 30 seconds later and put on a "heroic" performance. Paul Pierce calling himself the "best player in the world" was more of a joke than him leaving a game in a wheelchair. Paul Pierce needed 2 hall-of-famers to come to Boston to give him a championship and make him look like a better player than he is.

But I congratulate you on following the crowd on the Tracy McGrady hate. I guarantee you if McGrady had Ray Allen and Garnett on his team he would have a championship too.[/quote]

What the hell are we even talking about anymore?

I dont hate T-mac I simply and stating the fact that you cant say he can carry a team because he never won a play off round. This is further pointed out that his team (should) win one tonight and he hasnt played most of the year.

All I am saying is the Rockets dont need him as much as other teams need their supers stars. I dont see this as a hating I am just stating what is happening. He is not playing they are doing fine, he had what 5 years to get them out of the first round and he hasnt.

Also, Rose should become a damn good PG 2nd only to CP3 (most likely) (Who said that he wouldnt?)

But yeah if Shaq was on a team with Tim Ducan and LeBron they would win 20 championships..what the fuck does that have to do with anything?

Fine.. fuck the Celtics in the ear. Everyone on the team is a pussy...can we please talk about anything else? We have 2 knock out games going on today lets try something new and talk about those for a while.
 
As much as I hate the Celtics, mainly because they're playing the Bulls right now, I have to say Rondo is one hell of a point guard. When he develops a jump shot, he'll probably be right up there with the best.
 
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