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[quote name='getmeoutofjoliet']That Sucks for Lashley, he can forget about getting the US belt back. (assuming it's a drug problem)
Hopefully this will finally Push Matt Hardy! :pray:[/quote]

They may as well. No sense in bringing him back unless they are going to do something with him.
 
They might just have to. I hope that Bobby gets the help he needs, and on the upside, we're getting a far better match due to this. Regal and Finlay have yet to have anything less than a really good, stiff match, and any match between them will be better than that three way could have been. It was said in the latest Wrestling Observer that the belt was taken off Lashley as a punishment, and putting that together with this tells a story of a drug violation. They wouldn't punish him for a legit medical ailment.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']http://www.liverfacts.com/ms/ency/83/main.html

I won't be discussing this much as I have a aversion to doctors and medicine in general especially with if, ands or buts in regards to diagnoses, but it may be unrelated to substance abuse and I'll leave it at that.[/quote]I guess I worded myself poorly; I was trying to ask how likely it was that the issues were drug-related, what with all the people who are getting caught recently.

I'd be surprised if the match ended up being Finlay vs Regal as they're both aligned with King Booker right now.

Edit: And the match is indeed Finlay vs Regal. It should be a great match, but makes no sense storyline-wise.
 
TNA's locker room is said to be even worse regarding drugs. Regal-Finlay doesn't make sense given the Lashley storyline, but they HAVE been ribbing each other on-air about their past battles, so it stands to reason that they'd want to settle things on PPV.
 
To answer my own question from earlier:
The Mayo Clinic website says that elevated liver enzymes can be caused by drinking too much, obesity, diabetes, elevated triglycerides, infection (such as hepatitis or mononucleosis), autoimmune disorders, excessive use of vitamin supplements or certain herbal supplements, tumors of the liver or bile ducts, and some medications.

Looking ahead to GAB, they might as well call it WCW One Night Stand. Using the old WCW PPV name, you've got:

Booker T vs. Rey Mysterio for the WCW World Heavyweight Championship
Lord Steven Regal vs. The Belfast Bruiser for the WCW US Heavyweight Championship
"Sugar" Shane Helms defends the WCW Cruiserweight Championship (possibly against Psycosis)
London and Kendrick defend the WCW Cruiserweight Tag Team titles against Noble and Kash; while Noble was the only one actually IN WCW, the cruiserweights are what stood out, and this is definitely a WCW-esque match.

This is probably the closest thing to a WCW send-off show we'll ever get (unless TNA keeps up with the signings), so for those who wanted it make sure to catch the PPV.
 
Yet another liver-related GAB roster change -
The story is all being tied together regarding WWE's decisios today. The shows were canceled because Vince McMahon made the call early in the day that Big Show will replace Great Khali on Sunday, against The Undertaker, in the Punjabi Prison match. Khali also has a diseased liver and is expected to be taken off the road.
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Khali is said to be a good person, so I want him to get the help he needs. All of these guys need to stay as healthy as possible, and I'm glad to see WWE actually take guys off when they need to.
 
[quote name='JaytheGamefan']Yet another liver-related GAB roster change -
Khali is said to be a good person, so I want him to get the help he needs. All of these guys need to stay as healthy as possible, and I'm glad to see WWE actually take guys off when they need to.[/QUOTE]

I do believe that is a prank/fake rumor.
 
It's plausible, especially due to his size, but WWE.com hasn't reported it, nothing was said on SmackDown, and none of the main wrestling news sites have reported it. I'd imagine if there was a problem with Khali WWE would have found out at the same time they found out about Lashley and would have also reported at the same time.
 
[quote name='JaytheGamefan']It was said on the Wrestling Observer site, and nothing was said about it because the decision was made today, and the show was taped on Tuesday, with the final tape being sent out yesterday.[/QUOTE]

No other wrestling news site is reporting this. That plus the fact that WWE.com hasn't reported it (why hold it back) plus the odds of Khali having the same thing wrong with himself as Lashley....I'd say it's about a million to one chance it's real.
 
Looks like it's made the rounds to the Torch and the Observer, so there's a much better chance of this being the case. Add another match to WCW ONS, although they weren't in WCW at the same time: Mean Mark Callous takes on The Giant in what could be the most innovative match in the history of professional wrestling!

There's gonna be quite a few pissed off people ordering the Bash I imagine, after they find out that neither Khali or Lashley are going to be on the show.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']No other wrestling news site is reporting this. That plus the fact that WWE.com hasn't reported it (why hold it back) plus the odds of Khali having the same thing wrong with himself as Lashley....I'd say it's about a million to one chance it's real.[/QUOTE]
A million to one? That's quite an exaggeration right there. They might not have the same thing wrong with them as "liver disease" is quite a vague description, and even if they do have the same thing wrong with them, that isn't all that crazy when you consider the many similar heart attack-related deaths wrestling has seen.
 
[quote name='JaytheGamefan']A million to one? That's quite an exaggeration right there. They might not have the same thing wrong with them as "liver disease" is quite a vague description, and even if they do have the same thing wrong with them, that isn't all that crazy when you consider the many similar heart attack-related deaths wrestling has seen.[/QUOTE]

I meant all 3 factors I listed not just the liver thing.
 
Okay, but even then... A MILLION TO ONE!? WWE.com doesn't report a lot of things, and I wouldn't be surprised to see this up on their site tomorrow. I can understand them not wanting to put up two potential buyrate killers for a show within a single day.
 
[quote name='JaytheGamefan']Okay, but even then... A MILLION TO ONE!? WWE.com doesn't report a lot of things, and I wouldn't be surprised to see this up on their site tomorrow. I can understand them not wanting to put up two potential buyrate killers for a show within a single day.[/QUOTE]

Well, they didn't delay the news of Mark Henry being injured, Lashley being unable to compete, RVD/Sabu getting busted and more.

What's the point of holding this news back? Announcing it last night or tomorrow ain't going to help them one bit.

If this is true, then they are majorly fucked.

Their 2 main events are going to have to be ad-libbed and the whole Pootang Prison Match won't work/make sense without Khali.

- edit And WWE isn't the only thing that's sending up a red flag for me. The fact that not alot of sites have it up plus the fact it was posted at 2 in the morning plus the fact it's another "liver" thing just makes my bullshit detector go crazy.

Oh well, it doesn't really matter anyways. If it's false, no harm. If it's true, then it will be great watching SD scrambled.
 
Not even this stuff can really derail SD. The roster is so thick in terms of talent that the shows can still be consistently good - they just won't have as much star power. One upside of this is that they can then take more take to make stars out of the guys they have.
 
Consider the source. It's Meltzer. It's not some 15 year old chubby kid with french fry covered fingers who decides that they want to play a prank.

If Meltzer says it, there's a 15% chance, and no higher, that he's wrong. I don't like the guy, but he's rarely misinformed and has many highly placed resources.

In the end, while it sucks for Khali, it's very car-wreck intriguing to consider this year's GAB. I don't follow SD right now, but I have to admit that I'd be interested to see how they put together the show considering all the problems with it.

Do you think they knew about Lashley ahead of time and put off getting him off the road until he dropped the belt?
 
I wonder, is WWE using the Pitbulls name as a showing of their real hatred of ECW? I wonder if they'd let anyone on the ECW show use the Road Warrior or LOD name for their team...
 
I know I am in the minority but in WWE I still prefer Smackdown just because more actual wrestling occurs than Raw. Booker T and Finlay were two of my favorites in WCW, I think they feuded over the TV title quite a bit. I never thought I would see Finlay compete again.

I am surprised that WWE didn't just move Smackdown to Sci-Fi instead of creating "ECW".

Right now, TNA has the best wrestling IMO. They just need to increase to 2 hours to get rid of those commercial breaks in the middle of matches. Jay Lethal has been pretty darn good, Senshi, the whole X-Divsion is great IMO.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']I know I am in the minority but in WWE I still prefer Smackdown just because more actual wrestling occurs than Raw. Booker T and Finlay were two of my favorites in WCW, I think they feuded over the TV title quite a bit. I never thought I would see Finlay compete again.

I am surprised that WWE didn't just move Smackdown to Sci-Fi instead of creating "ECW".

Right now, TNA has the best wrestling IMO. They just need to increase to 2 hours to get rid of those commercial breaks in the middle of matches. Jay Lethal has been pretty darn good, Senshi, the whole X-Divsion is great IMO.[/QUOTE]

I like Smackdown as well (I have been catching it more lately). JBL is great as the announcer and the wrestling is definately much better. I don't always watch it, but that is more due to the day it is on than anything.

With all these problems plaguing the GAB, I wonder if this means a few people from Raw get moved to SD (someone like Shelton and/or Masters if his problems are over with).
 
Shelton is lost in the shuffle on Mondays. So are Cade and Murdoch. With the pitbulls and Kendrick and London on SD, they ought to move The Highlanders and Cade/Murdoch to Fridays and consolidate the tag division there.

No matter what they do, there is one thing that we can ALL be certain of: they will NEVER utilize the cruiserweights the way they should use them. SD could be devoid of the whole damned roster except for King Booker, Finlay and Michael Cole, and the cruiserweights would still have one four-minute match one every two months.

I saw an article on WWE.com this week stating that Shane Helms was the longest reigning CW chapmion in WWE. I read that and thought to myself "I think I've seen him wrestle fuckin' TWICE since he won that belt." Just pitiful.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Do you think they knew about Lashley ahead of time and put off getting him off the road until he dropped the belt?[/quote]You got it.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']I know I am in the minority but in WWE I still prefer Smackdown just because more actual wrestling occurs than Raw. Booker T and Finlay were two of my favorites in WCW, I think they feuded over the TV title quite a bit. I never thought I would see Finlay compete again.

I am surprised that WWE didn't just move Smackdown to Sci-Fi instead of creating "ECW".

Right now, TNA has the best wrestling IMO. They just need to increase to 2 hours to get rid of those commercial breaks in the middle of matches. Jay Lethal has been pretty darn good, Senshi, the whole X-Divsion is great IMO.[/QUOTE]
Many die hard wrestling fans prefer SD to Raw right now. I'd say that week to week, SD is better than Impact, but this past show was just incredible. Booker, Finlay, and Benoit fought over the TV belt, as did Bret. SD has better wrestling on a weekly basis, and has simpler, better-told stories.

Khali is still off the show, and it might just be a typical WWE bait and switch job, like they did on Taboo Tuesday with Edge. GAB's card changes seem to have resulted in a better show. Regal-Finlay should definitely be better than the three way, and Show-Taker have had better matches than Khali and Taker did at JD. There's a PW Torch VIP audio update on just why WWE hasn't announced Khali's abscence from the PPV. Once SD ends, I'll listen to it.

Here's an interesting note on the TNT Pro Wrestling company - they're hyping up the Ultimate Warrior for their 9/9 show. It seems odd that they'd put Warrior on a show before MavTV hits all cable systems, but it speaks highly of their dedication to getting big-name talent if they get him.
 
[quote name='guyver2077']amn cant believe all the card chamges... whats wwe waiting to announce the khali match change[/QUOTE]

Its possible that they don't want it to hurt PPV sales. If they wait to announce the change during the actual PPV its too late to unbuy it.
 
If you have Galavision, tape "Lucha Libre" today (not "Lucha de Vuelta," though you may enjoy that too). The main event is a clusterfuck of a match (12 guys), but this includes Shocker, Ron Killings, Samoa Joe, Konnan, Vampiro, La Parka, Octagon, and a buncha other Lucha clowns. Well worth your time.

Pro Wrestling NOAH's KENTA for the run-in!
 
Prediction time:

Fatal Four Way Bra and Panties Match: Ashley Massaro, I guess.

Gregory Helms vs. TBA: I don't think it matters who he faces, Helms retains.

London and Kendrick vs. The Pitbulls: London and Kendrick.

Finlay vs. Regal: Finaly retains, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Matt Hardy thrown into this match.

Punjabi Prison Match: The Undertaker vs. Big Show?: I think Taker wins regardless.

Batista vs. Mr. Kennedy: Batista, I'm curious to see how they'll lengthen this should-be squash match.

Rey Mysterio vs. King Booker: All hail the new, and now six time (x6) World Heavyweight Champion King Booker!
 
this sucks am glad I did not get tickets afterall that is . big time names that are out tonight I coculd careless about henry but would have loved to see lashly and giant in action live. at last check was not sold out wonder if they are pulling the names with a sick line(liver problems) because they feel is not worth them showing
 
Possible Cruiserweight title match spoiler from PWInsider:

Despite WWE's website listing Super Crazy for tonight's Great American Bash PPV earlier today, the plan is for Matt Hardy to challenge Gregory Helms for the Cruiserweight championship at tonight's PPV.
 
well this will be the first wrestling ppv ive missed in a very long time.. i no longer have access to watch the ppv's for the time being..ill have to watch it tomm
 
You can always just buy the DVD and save a ton of money compared to buying the PPV live.
Going by the Observer site coverage of the show, the card changes I mentioned before have happened. The stuff with Hardy is also true.
 
The PS3 version of SmackDown vs Raw 2007 was recently announced as being cancelled. It's still coming out for PSP, PS2, and Xbox 360. The rumor is that, if you put the UMD in your PSP and boot up, you'll be able to start a match by the time the PS3 version is released. ;)
 
[quote name='mykevermin']The PS3 version of SmackDown vs Raw 2007 was recently announced as being cancelled. It's still coming out for PSP, PS2, and Xbox 360. The rumor is that, if you put the UMD in your PSP and boot up, you'll be able to start a match by the time the PS3 version is released. ;)[/quote]

yea right...no way
 
[quote name='mykevermin']The PS3 version of SmackDown vs Raw 2007 was recently announced as being cancelled. It's still coming out for PSP, PS2, and Xbox 360. The rumor is that, if you put the UMD in your PSP and boot up, you'll be able to start a match by the time the PS3 version is released. ;)[/quote]

Damn, I can't believe the cancelled it. I was going to pick up the 360 version anyway (even though I'm hesitant about any Xbox wrestling game), but that is still strange. Is there a reason why they cancelled it?

Oh, and I believe that rumor.
 
If you have Paltalk (www.paltalk.com), you can watch the PPV. In the adult section (Not that I'd ever go in the adults-only live streaming webcams rooms..), there's a room called "TWR The Wrestling Room".. they always have streaming video and audio (though the audio cuts in and out). You have ot pay for the streaming video (14.95/month or 59.95/year).. worth it. I'm watching GAB right now. Booker/Rey up next. I haven't watched SmackDown in like.. forever. What's with the King Booker angle? It's retarded.
 
If you have Paltalk (www.paltalk.com), you can watch the PPV. In the adult section (Not that I'd ever go in the adults-only live streaming webcams rooms..), there's a room called "TWR The Wrestling Room".. they always have streaming video and audio (though the audio cuts in and out). You have ot pay for the streaming video (14.95/month or 59.95/year).. worth it. I'm watching GAB right now. Booker/Rey up next. I haven't watched SmackDown in like.. forever. What's with the King Booker angle? It's retarded.




Firefox can't find the site using your link.

Scorch, did you disable quotes of your posts?
 
[quote name='neocisco']If you have Paltalk (www.paltalk.com), you can watch the PPV. In the adult section (Not that I'd ever go in the adults-only live streaming webcams rooms..), there's a room called "TWR The Wrestling Room".. they always have streaming video and audio (though the audio cuts in and out). You have ot pay for the streaming video (14.95/month or 59.95/year).. worth it. I'm watching GAB right now. Booker/Rey up next. I haven't watched SmackDown in like.. forever. What's with the King Booker angle? It's retarded.




Firefox can't find the site using your link.

Scorch, did you disable quotes of your posts?[/quote]

..that's probably because firefox made a ) at the end, is it that hard to type it in manually? :p
 
[quote name='Demolition Man']Oh... my....... GOD!!!!!!!

KING BOOKER WON!!!!

ALL HAIL THE WORLD CHAMP KING BOOKER!!!!!!
[/QUOTE]
ABOUT fuckING TIME!! I foresee Mysterio falling far down on the card now...
 
I love the world title match result. The PS3 version of SD being cancelled is quite telling - as that is easy money for THQ, and that tells me that we could be seeing some more big third party releases taken off the PS3's release schedule.
 
THQ is probably thinking that the extra development costs for the PS3 port would be too high to make any kind of decent profit off of. That and they probably figure that those PS3 owners who will want it can just buy the PS2 version and play it via backward compatability.
 
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