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WWE wouldn't put the "RAW" logo below ECW and SD. I call shenanigans.
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:lol: Nice poster.
To sort of further ZL's point from earlier: [quote name='WrestlingObserver']FBI comes out. Opponents are Smackdown tag team champions London and Kendrick. ECW loyalists still rule the crowd. London and Kendrick booed. Fantastic match.[/quote]Obviously, match quality can be an opinion, but WHY were London and Kendrick booed? Seems to me that fans forgot they were tearing up ROH, which is what got them their WWE contracts in the first place.
To sort of further ZL's point from earlier: [quote name='WrestlingObserver']FBI comes out. Opponents are Smackdown tag team champions London and Kendrick. ECW loyalists still rule the crowd. London and Kendrick booed. Fantastic match.[/quote]Obviously, match quality can be an opinion, but WHY were London and Kendrick booed? Seems to me that fans forgot they were tearing up ROH, which is what got them their WWE contracts in the first place.
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That's why. You couldn't find two other guys to wrestle? You can't push someone to the main event? Bullshit. There's plenty of guys in ECW at the moment, so why they need to bring in SD/Raw guys is beyond me.
That's why. You couldn't find two other guys to wrestle? You can't push someone to the main event? Bullshit. There's plenty of guys in ECW at the moment, so why they need to bring in SD/Raw guys is beyond me.
[quote name='mykevermin']http://www.wwe.com/shows/ecw/extremists/
That's why. You couldn't find two other guys to wrestle? You can't push someone to the main event? Bullshit. There's plenty of guys in ECW at the moment, so why they need to bring in SD/Raw guys is beyond me.[/QUOTE]
That's why I stopped watching ECW... the fact that ECW guys aren't even getting a shot at their own title makes the whole show a joke, imo.
That's why. You couldn't find two other guys to wrestle? You can't push someone to the main event? Bullshit. There's plenty of guys in ECW at the moment, so why they need to bring in SD/Raw guys is beyond me.[/QUOTE]
That's why I stopped watching ECW... the fact that ECW guys aren't even getting a shot at their own title makes the whole show a joke, imo.
[quote name='mykevermin']http://www.wwe.com/shows/ecw/extremists/
That's why. You couldn't find two other guys to wrestle? You can't push someone to the main event? Bullshit. There's plenty of guys in ECW at the moment, so why they need to bring in SD/Raw guys is beyond me.[/quote]Well to be fair it was a dark match, so it's not like they were getting any TV time... if I had heard that this match was going to happen without knowing about reaction, I'd have been surprised to find out London and Kendrick got booed. Sure, they may be Smackdown now, but they made their name in the Northeast... which New York happens to be a part of.
I hate to be constantly copying from sites, but I found the first part of this to be humorous, while the second part is complete garbage, IMO.
That's why. You couldn't find two other guys to wrestle? You can't push someone to the main event? Bullshit. There's plenty of guys in ECW at the moment, so why they need to bring in SD/Raw guys is beyond me.[/quote]Well to be fair it was a dark match, so it's not like they were getting any TV time... if I had heard that this match was going to happen without knowing about reaction, I'd have been surprised to find out London and Kendrick got booed. Sure, they may be Smackdown now, but they made their name in the Northeast... which New York happens to be a part of.
I hate to be constantly copying from sites, but I found the first part of this to be humorous, while the second part is complete garbage, IMO.
I noticed as Batista entered some guy said something that you could tell really pissed Batista off. He actually stopped his entrance and yelled something back at him. Perhaps that was the guy that said his wife should have died?
I'm sorry but that was really almost disgusting the disrespect those people had last night. They weren't booing the wrestling, they were booing the fact that it isn't "the good ol' ECW", well boo-
ing-hoo, you knew what you were getting yourself into when you bought your ing ticket. Read a few wrestler's biographies and you'll start to realize how much a bad crowd can affect someone. If that's the way the majority of "ECW fans" conduct themselves then I'm glad they're pissed because that was assinine.
I'm sorry but that was really almost disgusting the disrespect those people had last night. They weren't booing the wrestling, they were booing the fact that it isn't "the good ol' ECW", well boo-
ing-hoo, you knew what you were getting yourself into when you bought your ing ticket. Read a few wrestler's biographies and you'll start to realize how much a bad crowd can affect someone. If that's the way the majority of "ECW fans" conduct themselves then I'm glad they're pissed because that was assinine.[quote name='Genocidal']
I hate to be constantly copying from sites, but I found the first part of this to be humorous, while the second part is complete garbage, IMO.[/quote]
First part was funny. As for the 2nd part, all i can say is Suck it up! Of course the crowd is gonna get personal when they're trying to piss you off. They pay your salary so just suck it up.
Honestly, you think Edge cried backstage everytime they chanted You Screwed Matt?
I hate to be constantly copying from sites, but I found the first part of this to be humorous, while the second part is complete garbage, IMO.[/quote]
First part was funny. As for the 2nd part, all i can say is Suck it up! Of course the crowd is gonna get personal when they're trying to piss you off. They pay your salary so just suck it up.
Honestly, you think Edge cried backstage everytime they chanted You Screwed Matt?
[quote name='RedvsBlue']I noticed as Batista entered some guy said something that you could tell really pissed Batista off. He actually stopped his entrance and yelled something back at him. Perhaps that was the guy that said his wife should have died?[/QUOTE]
If someone truly did say that, that is overstepping the lines by an incredible amount. These guys are wrestlers, just performers, and the fans are acting like Batista punched their mother in the face.
Batista was only trying to do his JOB... it's too bad Batista can't go to those assholes jobs and say things like "I hope your wife dies of cancer".
In the end, those ECW idiots just put more money in Vince's pockets, why would you go pay money to see a show you're going to hate? It would have been a better protest if they oh, I don't know, didn't further finance what they hated?
I think Guile's idea would have been hilarious, if they all just got up and left, how embarassing would that be on Live television?
If someone truly did say that, that is overstepping the lines by an incredible amount. These guys are wrestlers, just performers, and the fans are acting like Batista punched their mother in the face.
Batista was only trying to do his JOB... it's too bad Batista can't go to those assholes jobs and say things like "I hope your wife dies of cancer".
In the end, those ECW idiots just put more money in Vince's pockets, why would you go pay money to see a show you're going to hate? It would have been a better protest if they oh, I don't know, didn't further finance what they hated?
I think Guile's idea would have been hilarious, if they all just got up and left, how embarassing would that be on Live television?
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I do chuckle at the cancer comment, but I *know* it's in poor taste. Funny how seeing midget butts, poop, green slime, on-air urination, and god knows what else, *NOW* the line's been crossed! ing please. 
Batista. Learn to take the crowd. I can understand not being happy about things being thrown at you, but shut up or quit the biz, ya in' baby.
Truth be told, the crowd leaving would have been *AWESOME*. Shame that so many "smart marks" want to get themselves over just as much as the "idiot fans" they despise. Put them on camera, and they both act like righteous bags of hammers.
ing please. Batista. Learn to take the crowd. I can understand not being happy about things being thrown at you, but shut up or quit the biz, ya in' baby.Truth be told, the crowd leaving would have been *AWESOME*. Shame that so many "smart marks" want to get themselves over just as much as the "idiot fans" they despise. Put them on camera, and they both act like righteous bags of hammers.
[quote name='mykevermin']I do chuckle at the cancer comment, but I *know* it's in poor taste. Funny how seeing midget butts, poop, green slime, on-air urination, and god knows what else, *NOW* the line's been crossed! ing please.
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Telling someone that you wished their loved one dies of a serious medical condition they have is a lot more serious than those things you mentioned. Of course those things are in poor taste but saying you wish someone's wife died of cancer isn't even in the same category.
ing please. [/QUOTE]
Telling someone that you wished their loved one dies of a serious medical condition they have is a lot more serious than those things you mentioned. Of course those things are in poor taste but saying you wish someone's wife died of cancer isn't even in the same category.
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I don't get why people think that's true, this has been talked about several times - they were still selling out most of their shows and making good money off merchandise when they went out of business; mismanagement of funds once the company took off is the main reason they went under.[/quote]
So you're blaming Heyman entirely then? I'm not afraid to say I was wrong and change my opinion, but I will need some evidence here sir.
[quote name='CaseyRyback']You can't put all that on ECW. WWE and WCW bothed over ECW in raping their roster and Vince put the final nail in the coffin by ing up ECW's TV deal with TNN (though TNN did put forth a lackluster effort in supporting ECW).
You should watch the Rise and Fall of ECW. It really shows how much of a sleaze Vince is. I love how he constantly says he tried to support ECW, yeted over Heyman whenever he could.[/quote]
Heyman would undoubtedly have done the same thing had he been in Vince's shoes. In all honesty, I'd rather see Vince as the God of wrestling, than Heyman.
I don't get why people think that's true, this has been talked about several times - they were still selling out most of their shows and making good money off merchandise when they went out of business; mismanagement of funds once the company took off is the main reason they went under.[/quote]
So you're blaming Heyman entirely then? I'm not afraid to say I was wrong and change my opinion, but I will need some evidence here sir.
[quote name='CaseyRyback']You can't put all that on ECW. WWE and WCW both
ed over ECW in raping their roster and Vince put the final nail in the coffin by ing up ECW's TV deal with TNN (though TNN did put forth a lackluster effort in supporting ECW).You should watch the Rise and Fall of ECW. It really shows how much of a sleaze Vince is. I love how he constantly says he tried to support ECW, yet
ed over Heyman whenever he could.[/quote]Heyman would undoubtedly have done the same thing had he been in Vince's shoes. In all honesty, I'd rather see Vince as the God of wrestling, than Heyman.
Zenithian Legend
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[quote name='mykevermin']
Batista. Learn to take the crowd. I can understand not being happy about things being thrown at you, but shut up or quit the biz, ya in' baby.
Truth be told, the crowd leaving would have been *AWESOME*. Shame that so many "smart marks" want to get themselves over just as much as the "idiot fans" they despise. Put them on camera, and they both act like righteous bags of hammers.[/quote]
Agreed and agreed.
The reason why Batista will never be remembered as one of the greats of wrestling is because he doesn't know how to play the game. Even Big Show knew what to do, pissing the fans off even more. Shit, evening Cena handles the boos better than Batista. Batista needs to watch some old WCW tapes and see how Hall, Nash and Hogan reacted when garbage was being tossed at them.
Batista. Learn to take the crowd. I can understand not being happy about things being thrown at you, but shut up or quit the biz, ya in' baby.Truth be told, the crowd leaving would have been *AWESOME*. Shame that so many "smart marks" want to get themselves over just as much as the "idiot fans" they despise. Put them on camera, and they both act like righteous bags of hammers.[/quote]
Agreed and agreed.
The reason why Batista will never be remembered as one of the greats of wrestling is because he doesn't know how to play the game. Even Big Show knew what to do, pissing the fans off even more. Shit, even
ing Cena handles the boos better than Batista. Batista needs to watch some old WCW tapes and see how Hall, Nash and Hogan reacted when garbage was being tossed at them.
[quote name='mykevermin']I do chuckle at the cancer comment, but I *know* it's in poor taste. Funny how seeing midget butts, poop, green slime, on-air urination, and god knows what else, *NOW* the line's been crossed! ing please.
Batista. Learn to take the crowd. I can understand not being happy about things being thrown at you, but shut up or quit the biz, ya in' baby.
Truth be told, the crowd leaving would have been *AWESOME*. Shame that so many "smart marks" want to get themselves over just as much as the "idiot fans" they despise. Put them on camera, and they both act like righteous bags of hammers.[/QUOTE]
Christ, you're so right I'd offer my hand in marriage ::Wiggum voice:: if I were a woman or gay.
It's been hinted at before that Batista is pretty immature (especially for someone in his position) - he's just as ridiculous as the guy who made the comments to him for taking it all seriously in the first place.
According to some douchebag from the Torch, there were some fans turning their back on the match but not enough to make it mean anything. It would be nice if next time (if there is a next time, and they have the stupidity to put on another WWE Slug vs. WWE Slug main event) the word got out and people just started filing out during the intros. Sadly, it wouldn't happen though, for the same reasons you stated.
Next week nothing will change. Vince will not suddenly wake up and realize, like I said in my Torch feedback under my pseudonym, he should be trying to please the fans who WANT to like the product instead of trying to win over people who will never give a because they're only there to see The Undertaker and Batista.
Same thing that happened with WCW and ECW the first time around. We get it, Vince - WWE rules and everything else is a tenth rate copy with performers that were never on the level of WWE SUPERSTARS. For all of Vince McMahon's "genius" he somehow managed to miss the fact that as soon as he BOUGHT those companies, they ceased to be rivals and instead became assets to me maximized. Oops.
It must be fun to be able to piss away millions of dollars to make a repeatedly hammer home a point that is only important to you.
ing please. Batista. Learn to take the crowd. I can understand not being happy about things being thrown at you, but shut up or quit the biz, ya in' baby.Truth be told, the crowd leaving would have been *AWESOME*. Shame that so many "smart marks" want to get themselves over just as much as the "idiot fans" they despise. Put them on camera, and they both act like righteous bags of hammers.[/QUOTE]
Christ, you're so right I'd offer my hand in marriage ::Wiggum voice:: if I were a woman or gay.
It's been hinted at before that Batista is pretty immature (especially for someone in his position) - he's just as ridiculous as the guy who made the comments to him for taking it all seriously in the first place.
According to some douchebag from the Torch, there were some fans turning their back on the match but not enough to make it mean anything. It would be nice if next time (if there is a next time, and they have the stupidity to put on another WWE Slug vs. WWE Slug main event) the word got out and people just started filing out during the intros. Sadly, it wouldn't happen though, for the same reasons you stated.
Next week nothing will change. Vince will not suddenly wake up and realize, like I said in my Torch feedback under my pseudonym, he should be trying to please the fans who WANT to like the product instead of trying to win over people who will never give a
because they're only there to see The Undertaker and Batista.Same thing that happened with WCW and ECW the first time around. We get it, Vince - WWE rules and everything else is a tenth rate copy with performers that were never on the level of WWE SUPERSTARS. For all of Vince McMahon's "genius" he somehow managed to miss the fact that as soon as he BOUGHT those companies, they ceased to be rivals and instead became assets to me maximized. Oops.
It must be fun to be able to piss away millions of dollars to make a repeatedly hammer home a point that is only important to you.
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']
Heyman would undoubtedly have done the same thing had he been in Vince's shoes. In all honesty, I'd rather see Vince as the God of wrestling, than Heyman.[/QUOTE]
Vince may be a sleaze but I can only imagine Heyman would be worse in his position. I mean there's a reason why New Jack will never be in WWE but was considered top talent in ECW...
Heyman would undoubtedly have done the same thing had he been in Vince's shoes. In all honesty, I'd rather see Vince as the God of wrestling, than Heyman.[/QUOTE]
Vince may be a sleaze but I can only imagine Heyman would be worse in his position. I mean there's a reason why New Jack will never be in WWE but was considered top talent in ECW...
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[quote name='RedvsBlue']Telling someone that you wished their loved one dies of a serious medical condition they have is a lot more serious than those things you mentioned. Of course those things are in poor taste but saying you wish someone's wife died of cancer isn't even in the same category.[/QUOTE]
But when you build your product on poo-poo and pee-pee jokes you will attract the fans that think it is funny to yell inappropriate things. While the comment in question is inappropriate, at this point it is just part of the business.
But when you build your product on poo-poo and pee-pee jokes you will attract the fans that think it is funny to yell inappropriate things. While the comment in question is inappropriate, at this point it is just part of the business.
I wouldn't place the entire blame on Heyman myself, as TNN sucked a huge amount of money out of ECW, but a lot of it is his fault. Paul Heyman: Breaking the stereotype that all Jewish people are good with money.
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']So you're blaming Heyman entirely then? I'm not afraid to say I was wrong and change my opinion, but I will need some evidence here sir.[/quote]
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']So you're blaming Heyman entirely then? I'm not afraid to say I was wrong and change my opinion, but I will need some evidence here sir.[/quote]
[quote name='mykevermin']I do chuckle at the cancer comment, but I *know* it's in poor taste. Funny how seeing midget butts, poop, green slime, on-air urination, and god knows what else, *NOW* the line's been crossed! ing please.
Batista. Learn to take the crowd. I can understand not being happy about things being thrown at you, but shut up or quit the biz, ya in' baby.
Truth be told, the crowd leaving would have been *AWESOME*. Shame that so many "smart marks" want to get themselves over just as much as the "idiot fans" they despise. Put them on camera, and they both act like righteous bags of hammers.[/QUOTE]
Christ, you're so right I'd offer my hand in marriage ::Wiggum voice:: if I were a woman or gay.
It's been hinted at before that Batista is pretty immature (especially for someone in his position) - he's just as ridiculous as the guy who made the comments to him for taking it all seriously in the first place.
According to some douchebag from the Torch, there were some fans turning their back on the match but not enough to make it mean anything. It would be nice if next time (if there is a next time, and they have the stupidity to put on another WWE Slug vs. WWE Slug main event) the word got out and people just started filing out during the intros. Sadly, it wouldn't happen though, for the same reasons you stated.
Next week nothing will change. Vince will not suddenly wake up and realize, like I said in my Torch feedback under my pseudonym, he should be trying to please the fans who WANT to like the product instead of trying to win over people who will never give a because they're only there to see The Undertaker and Batista.
Same thing that happened with WCW and ECW the first time around. We get it, Vince - WWE rules and everything else is a tenth rate copy with performers that were never on the level of WWE SUPERSTARS. For all of Vince McMahon's "genius" he somehow managed to miss the fact that as soon as he BOUGHT those companies, they ceased to be rivals and instead became assets that could make money. Oops.
It must be fun to be able to piss away millions of dollars to repeatedly drive home a point that only matters to you.
ing please. Batista. Learn to take the crowd. I can understand not being happy about things being thrown at you, but shut up or quit the biz, ya in' baby.Truth be told, the crowd leaving would have been *AWESOME*. Shame that so many "smart marks" want to get themselves over just as much as the "idiot fans" they despise. Put them on camera, and they both act like righteous bags of hammers.[/QUOTE]
Christ, you're so right I'd offer my hand in marriage ::Wiggum voice:: if I were a woman or gay.
It's been hinted at before that Batista is pretty immature (especially for someone in his position) - he's just as ridiculous as the guy who made the comments to him for taking it all seriously in the first place.
According to some douchebag from the Torch, there were some fans turning their back on the match but not enough to make it mean anything. It would be nice if next time (if there is a next time, and they have the stupidity to put on another WWE Slug vs. WWE Slug main event) the word got out and people just started filing out during the intros. Sadly, it wouldn't happen though, for the same reasons you stated.
Next week nothing will change. Vince will not suddenly wake up and realize, like I said in my Torch feedback under my pseudonym, he should be trying to please the fans who WANT to like the product instead of trying to win over people who will never give a
because they're only there to see The Undertaker and Batista.Same thing that happened with WCW and ECW the first time around. We get it, Vince - WWE rules and everything else is a tenth rate copy with performers that were never on the level of WWE SUPERSTARS. For all of Vince McMahon's "genius" he somehow managed to miss the fact that as soon as he BOUGHT those companies, they ceased to be rivals and instead became assets that could make money. Oops.
It must be fun to be able to piss away millions of dollars to repeatedly drive home a point that only matters to you.
Zenithian Legend
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I wonder how the fans would've reacted had Foley vs Show been the main event?
Why not cater the card for the ECW fans? Foley could've got nailed by the belt shot and Show would've drawn heat, then Sabu comes in and makes the save, end show.
Why not cater the card for the ECW fans? Foley could've got nailed by the belt shot and Show would've drawn heat, then Sabu comes in and makes the save, end show.
[quote name='mykevermin']
Batista. Learn to take the crowd. I can understand not being happy about things being thrown at you, but shut up or quit the biz, ya in' baby.[/quote]I'd have to agree with this, even if I don't agree with what the fan supposedly said. Let's be real, Batista was on "ECW", was he expecting to get the huge babyface pop that he always gets on Smackdown? He'd have to be a fool to have not expected what he got.
Batista. Learn to take the crowd. I can understand not being happy about things being thrown at you, but shut up or quit the biz, ya in' baby.[/quote]I'd have to agree with this, even if I don't agree with what the fan supposedly said. Let's be real, Batista was on "ECW", was he expecting to get the huge babyface pop that he always gets on Smackdown? He'd have to be a fool to have not expected what he got.
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uh oh
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It's real easy for us sitting at home to say how to react in that situation.
Let's not forget this...
[MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Syhd1X62mE[/MEDIA]
Batista could have easily went Dr. D on someones ass and didn't.
Let's not forget this...
[MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Syhd1X62mE[/MEDIA]
Batista could have easily went Dr. D on someones ass and didn't.
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[quote name='GuilewasNK']It's real easy for us sitting at home to say how to react in that situation.
Let's not forget this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Syhd1X62mE
Batista could have easily went Dr. D on someones ass and didn't.[/QUOTE]
that never gets old... ever. God iing love it
Let's not forget this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Syhd1X62mE
Batista could have easily went Dr. D on someones ass and didn't.[/QUOTE]
that never gets old... ever. God i
ing love it
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[quote name='GuilewasNK']It's real easy for us sitting at home to say how to react in that situation.
Let's not forget this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Syhd1X62mE
Batista could have easily went Dr. D on someones ass and didn't.[/QUOTE]
Was that John Stessel? I would have hit him, too. Dumbass Mustache.
Let's not forget this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Syhd1X62mE
Batista could have easily went Dr. D on someones ass and didn't.[/QUOTE]
Was that John Stessel? I would have hit him, too. Dumbass Mustache.
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[quote name='Zenithian Legend']uh oh[/QUOTE]
That is NOT a good idea.
That is NOT a good idea.
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[quote name='WeaponX2099']Was that John Stessel? I would have hit him, too. Dumbass Mustache.[/quote]
Yep, it was John Stossel.
Yep, it was John Stossel.
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I remember back when that happened. God I am old.
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[quote name='mykevermin']I do chuckle at the cancer comment, but I *know* it's in poor taste. Funny how seeing midget butts, poop, green slime, on-air urination, and god knows what else, *NOW* the line's been crossed! ing please.
Batista. Learn to take the crowd. I can understand not being happy about things being thrown at you, but shut up or quit the biz, ya in' baby.
Truth be told, the crowd leaving would have been *AWESOME*. Shame that so many "smart marks" want to get themselves over just as much as the "idiot fans" they despise. Put them on camera, and they both act like righteous bags of hammers.[/QUOTE]
I gotta agree with Batista being a little bitch. There was a reason Booker beat the shit out of him.
ing please. Batista. Learn to take the crowd. I can understand not being happy about things being thrown at you, but shut up or quit the biz, ya in' baby.Truth be told, the crowd leaving would have been *AWESOME*. Shame that so many "smart marks" want to get themselves over just as much as the "idiot fans" they despise. Put them on camera, and they both act like righteous bags of hammers.[/QUOTE]
I gotta agree with Batista being a little bitch. There was a reason Booker beat the shit out of him.
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[quote name='Roufuss']Haha, Boogeyman in ECW... I hope Vince keeps doing shit like that to piss off the ECW crowd, because who cares about them, they still buy tickets to see the show anyways.[/QUOTE]
Most of them are buying tickets to see SD.
Most of them are buying tickets to see SD.
[quote name='CaseyRyback']Most of them are buying tickets to see SD.[/QUOTE]
All the ECW fans who bought tickets to last night's show only to boo and make comments, I'm pretty sure they weren't buying tickets to see SD. They state how they hate the product, yet they still went to see it? Mykevermin is right, internet marks are about as smart as a bag of hammers.
The people who made comments to Batista / Big Show may think they are smart o r funny, but they are just further lining Vince's pockets since they bought a ticket in the first place.
If I don't like someting (like ECW), I won't watch it, and I sure as hell won't buy a ticket to see it live.
All the ECW fans who bought tickets to last night's show only to boo and make comments, I'm pretty sure they weren't buying tickets to see SD. They state how they hate the product, yet they still went to see it? Mykevermin is right, internet marks are about as smart as a bag of hammers.
The people who made comments to Batista / Big Show may think they are smart o r funny, but they are just further lining Vince's pockets since they bought a ticket in the first place.
If I don't like someting (like ECW), I won't watch it, and I sure as hell won't buy a ticket to see it live.
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bottom line a true ecw crowd rules.. they are smart fans that cant be fed the typical wwe type show.. i would of loved to have been there last night...
Batista or big show shoudnt have been there in the first place but vince continue to give us wwe main events on ecw each week
Batista or big show shoudnt have been there in the first place but vince continue to give us wwe main events on ecw each week
Zenithian Legend
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[quote name='GuilewasNK']Yep, it was John Stossel.[/quote]
Reminds me of Jim Rome nearly getting his ass kicked by Jim Everett, God I wish the cameras had kept rolling.
Reminds me of Jim Rome nearly getting his ass kicked by Jim Everett, God I wish the cameras had kept rolling.
Zenithian Legend
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[quote name='guyver2077']
Batista or big show shoudnt have been there in the first place but vince continue to give us wwe main events on ecw each week[/quote]
Ya, I don't really follow that, I really think putting anyone, even Foley out there vs the Big Show would've drawn a better reaction, but then again we are just talking about ecw fans so f' em.
Batista or big show shoudnt have been there in the first place but vince continue to give us wwe main events on ecw each week[/quote]
Ya, I don't really follow that, I really think putting anyone, even Foley out there vs the Big Show would've drawn a better reaction, but then again we are just talking about ecw fans so f' em.
[quote name='Roufuss']All the ECW fans who bought tickets to last night's show only to boo and make comments, I'm pretty sure they weren't buying tickets to see SD. They state how they hate the product, yet they still went to see it? Mykevermin is right, internet marks are about as smart as a bag of hammers.
The people who made comments to Batista / Big Show may think they are smart o r funny, but they are just further lining Vince's pockets since they bought a ticket in the first place.
If I don't like someting (like ECW), I won't watch it, and I sure as hell won't buy a ticket to see it live.[/quote]Didn't the tickets for this event go on sale before ECW debuted on Sci-Fi? There were reports of people outside the venue trying to sell their tickets for below face value, and I don't see why they would do that unless they didn't know what they had gotten themselves into.
The people who made comments to Batista / Big Show may think they are smart o r funny, but they are just further lining Vince's pockets since they bought a ticket in the first place.
If I don't like someting (like ECW), I won't watch it, and I sure as hell won't buy a ticket to see it live.[/quote]Didn't the tickets for this event go on sale before ECW debuted on Sci-Fi? There were reports of people outside the venue trying to sell their tickets for below face value, and I don't see why they would do that unless they didn't know what they had gotten themselves into.
[quote name='Zenithian Legend']Ya, I don't really follow that, I really think putting anyone, even Foley out there vs the Big Show would've drawn a better reaction, but then again we are just talking about ecw fans so f' em.[/QUOTE]
I don't get why Vince won't let ECW wrestlers go for the title and actually try and build up the brand.
I don't get why Vince won't let ECW wrestlers go for the title and actually try and build up the brand.
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If the fan really did say Batista's wife deserved to die from cancer, than BIG DAVE's reaction is completely justified. That goes far beyond Batista having to "work the crowd" or anything. Last night's show was incredible, because everything that needed to be good or great was, and the crowd made the main event exciting. Boogeyman in ECW would be pretty good - he's already doing the 911 gimmick, might as well do it on the brand where it would make sense.
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[quote name='JaytheGamefan']If the fan really did say Batista's wife deserved to die from cancer, than BIG DAVE's reaction is completely justified. That goes far beyond Batista having to "work the crowd" or anything. Last night's show was incredible, because everything that needed to be good or great was, and the crowd made the main event exciting. Boogeyman in ECW would be pretty good - he's already doing the 911 gimmick, might as well do it on the brand where it would make sense.[/QUOTE]
But shit like that is not any different than what any other pro athlete or celebrity goes through every night. If you are going to be in the spotlight, you have to let that stuff slide.
But shit like that is not any different than what any other pro athlete or celebrity goes through every night. If you are going to be in the spotlight, you have to let that stuff slide.
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No, that goes FAR far beyond what most athletes and other wrestlers get. You don't insult a man's family like that and not expect some kind of retaliation. There's a big difference between just an insulting chant (which does fit in with your "any athlete goes through it" description) and that.
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I completely missed the "where's my refund?" chant last night
I completely missed the "where's my refund?" chant last night
Pay me enough money so that I'll never have to worry about anything ever again, allow be to be able to provide my family a more than an adequate life (even after I'm gone), and allow me to gain some celebrity status, and then say whatever you want about my family. Why should I care?! I'm set for life ($)! Batista lives a charmed life that none of us will probably ever even sniff. Boo-hoo, Mr. Rich got yelled at by a smelly low-life! WAAAA!
I don't advocate some of the fans behavior, but big deal. Why worry about something so little and stupid. Why give that fan the satisfaction of actually pissing you off, when you could just ignore it and still have the same life.
Pay me $100K or more (hell, I'll take 50K) and I'll sit around and let smelly wrestling nerds talk about my family all they want!
I don't advocate some of the fans behavior, but big deal. Why worry about something so little and stupid. Why give that fan the satisfaction of actually pissing you off, when you could just ignore it and still have the same life.
Pay me $100K or more (hell, I'll take 50K) and I'll sit around and let smelly wrestling nerds talk about my family all they want!
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'em if they can't take the heat.I wouldn't blame them if they decided to maul the fan (imagine the day - and you know it will come sooner than later - that someone tells Chavo they wished he died instead of Eddie). I won't slight them for that. I do expect them to either suck it up, or deal with the consequences. That asshole in the crowd? His ticket pays for your dinner. Let them do what they want, so long as it doesn't interfere with the show (throw things, run in the ring, etc.).
I don't give a shit about Batista or his wife. If he wants to be a baby about it, he should have laid out the fan. It's not like he wouldn't be able to fight (though Booker T may have another opinion on that). Why be such a baby? The only good to come of this is that Batista will probably stay a far distance away the next time he's invited to work an ECW show because they don't push anyone.
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[quote name='JaytheGamefan']No, that goes FAR far beyond what most athletes and other wrestlers get. You don't insult a man's family like that and not expect some kind of retaliation. There's a big difference between just an insulting chant (which does fit in with your "any athlete goes through it" description) and that.[/QUOTE]
Sit near the opposing team's bench at a basketball or hockey game or in the outfield at a baseball game, I guarantee you will hear something close to what Batista heard last night.
Sit near the opposing team's bench at a basketball or hockey game or in the outfield at a baseball game, I guarantee you will hear something close to what Batista heard last night.
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Fine, but no amount of money makes it okay to insult a guy's potentially dying wife. NONE. He earned that "charmed life", and no one deserves to have that kind of insult levied at him.
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[quote name='Roufuss']I don't get why Vince won't let ECW wrestlers go for the title and actually try and build up the brand.[/quote]
My guess is because he doesn't like them... remember Vince is one of the biggest egomaniacs ever, he didn't create any of the ECW characters, and he'll be damned if he's pushing someone that Heyman was responsible for.
I really think that is why Big Show is on ECW now, instead of holding a title on Raw or SD, because WCW discovered him and made him their champion first.
Although, my theory doesn't hold up to Booker T's title reign, but I think we all know he's a transitional champion between Rey and Batista. Of course Mysterio was also a WCW product, as was Eddie and Benoit... BUT Eddie certainly wasn't as big of a star in WCW, but I digress.
The point here is:
#1. Vince has an ego problem
#2. Vince hates Heyman
#3. Vince would rather push any talent before Heyman's
which is why it took the rebirth of ECW for RVD to ever hold the world title
My guess is because he doesn't like them... remember Vince is one of the biggest egomaniacs ever, he didn't create any of the ECW characters, and he'll be damned if he's pushing someone that Heyman was responsible for.
I really think that is why Big Show is on ECW now, instead of holding a title on Raw or SD, because WCW discovered him and made him their champion first.
Although, my theory doesn't hold up to Booker T's title reign, but I think we all know he's a transitional champion between Rey and Batista. Of course Mysterio was also a WCW product, as was Eddie and Benoit... BUT Eddie certainly wasn't as big of a star in WCW, but I digress.
The point here is:
#1. Vince has an ego problem
#2. Vince hates Heyman
#3. Vince would rather push any talent before Heyman's
which is why it took the rebirth of ECW for RVD to ever hold the world title
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Show isn't in ECW because he was a WCW guy, he's there because they had no idea what to do with him on Raw. Show facing WWE guys builds the belt up faster than having him face guys who either aren't established in the new ECW, or seen as jobbers. Vince actually likes Paul - they just butt heads a lot. Steph is the one that hates Paul E.
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I think he's just an assassin for hire since Vince can't rid himself of DX, sorta like Bossman during the Austin era. So I guess that would make him part of Vince's group, at least on a temporary basis, like the Spirit Squad.
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