[quote name='guyver2077']Ok.. so i know Team 3d attacked Waltman backstage a while back.. but what the hell happenned to Waltman since ?[/QUOTE]
Waltman is such a waste. The last time he was on TV for longer than a month was when he did the Celebrity Rehab show.
already took the mask off in WCW, and by Mexican tradition, was never supposed to wear it again. But this clearly bothers nobody in America other than me.
Also, I check in on TNA every once in a while. What the have they done to Orlando Jordan?
Rey wore the mask in Mexico after losing it in WCW and fans didn't care. Him losing it to begin with was stupid as hell, but it seems like the fans there don't blame him for putting it back on.
Impact thoughts -
Liked the opening a lot, as they actually ran down key events of last week's show and gave them ample time to get them across. Dug the Hardy-Anderson-AJ deal, although it seems strange for them to have "assholes" go unbleeped, but on the title, it was censored as "A-h***". The tag team three way was pretty good, largely because 99% of it was 3D vs. Ink Inc. I was pleasantly surprised to see Neal pin Ray again - it's a good way for Neal to get over, and kudos to Bubba for being selfless enough to job as many times as needed to get his guy over. Flair giving Kaz advice, leading to AJ getting jealous because Flair isn't helping him was cool. Flair basically said that Kaz needs the help, while AJ doesn't. While Flair saying that Kaz has his passion and skillset was a bit much, I like that they're breaking AJ and Flair up to use Flair to get someone else over.
Kaz-Lethal was a good little X division match until Flair came out and the focus of the match then became Flair. The post-match Flair-Lethal brawl was probably better than the match itself, although they've given away so much between these two that an actual match between them has been weakened. They've done figure 4s, backdrops, chops, ramp bumps, and moves sending guys over the top rope. There isn't much left for them to actually do in a match now, but a win over Flair would probably help Lethal as long as they don't screw up the aftermath like they have every other time they've put him over someone big.
Abyss-OJ was better than I thought it would be, and the whole sadistic side to OJ's character is pretty cool. Wolfe causing a DQ by beating up Abyss wasn't surprising, but him calling OJ "bubble gum" was, and the crowd latched onto it instantly. Wolfe then taking a rolling bump halfway across the ring for a punch from Rob Terry ruled. Nice way to advance two feuds here.
The RVD-Sting promo didn't do much for me. RVD cut his usual promo with no passion, and Sting's wasn't much better. I did like the big wacky evil laugh they put over him beating RVD with a bat though. Knockouts tag was nothing special in the ring, but Puppet, Taz, and Tenay ruled on commentary. They were a total blast to listen to, and I dug the face turn of sorts for Lacey.
Wolf-Jeff was really good, and their styles didn't clash as much as I thought they could. Angle and Taz put Wolfe over big-time on commentary. Wolfe winning was surprising given his recent win-loss record, and while it wasn't a clean win, it was still pretty clean by TNA standards.
Morgan's promo asking for a new partner to face the Band at the PPV was awesome. He talked down to Angle perfectly, and this "we" bit continues to be great, and I liked it more tonight than ever before because he found ways to mix it up by blending in more comedy instead of just doing the "we" bit. Nice tease of another Angle-Joe match or partnership at the end there, too. It's been about two years since they've had a match, which seems impossible since they burned through three of them in Angle's first three months in the company. AJ-Anderson was perfectly fine, but not too memorable outside of the cross body from Anderson and AJ hooking the ropes with his legs to win. Nice post-match deal with Anderson getting his mic, putting AJ over by saying he got beat with his own tactics, then polling the assholes to justify beating AJ up after the match. Jeff Hardy making the save for him after the new Horsemen came out to beat him up was pretty cool, too. Very well-done face turn for Anderson after a shaky beginning.
That was the second good show in a row for TNA and the PPV lineup looks solid so far. Kendrick-Williams should be fantastic if it's given more than 5 minutes. The Band versus Morgan and the ever-popular question mark could be fine if Hall isn't in and Morgan's partner is good. Sting vs. RVD should be good if Sting's healthy. The booking's a bit weird in some ways still though - the Guns SHOULD be getting a tag title shot, but aren't. I guess Morgan's rematch clause outranks their number 1 contendership or something.
I'm looking forward to what I presume will be Beer Money vs. Hardy/Anderson at the PPV, although a mid-card match is kinda beneath both guys on TNA's biggest show of the summer, at least it builds to the future. I'm looking forward to seeing Flair eventually lead the whatever-they-call-his-Horsemen to all the gold - Desmond with the Global belt, AJ with the World, Beer Money with the Tag, and Kaz with the X. Hopefully it's done in a way that elevates the guys and the titles.
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Quotes -
Taz - Jeff Hardy’s a bizarre individual - JUST LOOK AT WHAT HE’S WEARING!
Hardy - WHAT’S UP CREATURES!? I’m trying to figure out what’s up with the asshole himself, Mr. Anderson. Ken, come out and explain yourself.
Anderson - Jeff, Jeffrey, Jeffro. Come on man, let’s look at things this way. Maybe I do things like that. I extend hands and give assists when they’re needed to confuse people. Maybe I did it to confuse you, and all these people. Maybe I did that because… I’M AN ASSHOLE.
Crowds - WE’RE ALL ASSHOLES!
Anderson - Jeff, look at yourself. You’ve got green hair, face paint, tattoos, your whole… which I think is cool, but some old lady’s gonna walk by and say “that boys’ an asshole” EMBRACE YOUR INNER ASSHOLINESS! HE’S AN ASSHOLE. SHE’S AN ASSHOLE. WE’RE ALL ASSHOLES! WOULDN’T YOU LIKE TO BE AN ASSHOLE TOO? ASS-H-O-L-E! OOH OOH OOH! (AJ comes out)
Taz - THANK GOD!
Tenay - HE’S NOT COMING ALONE!
Taz - Looks alone to me. Oh no he isn’t.
AJ - So I just got here and saw that I have a match with you tonight. YOU WHO DOESN’T DESERVE TO BE IN THE RING WITH AJ STYLES, YOU WHO DESERVEST O BUY A TICKET TO SEE AJ STYLES. SO I ASKED BISCHOFF, and he said you asked.
Hardy - I didn’t ask, bro.
AJ - I WASN’T TALKING TO, I WAS TALKING TO THE BUTT-MUNCH BESIDE YOU. I AM AJ STYLES - THE PHENOMENAL AJ STYLES. THE ONE,! DO YOU TKNOW WHO I AM?
Anderson - YOU’RE THE ONE! ALLOW ME TO TELL YOU WHO I AM - I AM…
Crowd - MISSTTTEERRR ANDERSON! ANDERSON!
Anderson - MISSSSTTTEEERRRR ANDDDEERRSOOOONN! Wait for it, wait for it! ANNNDDEERRRSOOONNN!
Taz - I talked with Bubba earlier, and Bubba seemed cool. It seems like things between Bubba and Jesse are okay. Bubba’s a bit of a hothead. It’s all good in the hood.
Taz - Ink Inc is evolving Into a better team as the weeks evolve.
(to Kaz)Flair - I see the passion in you, and I see the skills I have in you.
AJ - RIC! I’M LOOKING FOR YOU, WHERE ARE YOU?!
Flair - I’m here giving Kazarian advice for his match with Lethal.
AJ - WELL I’VE GOT ANDERSON!
Flair - You’re AJ Styles, YOU’LL BE OKAY. Now, onto Lethal - he’s slippery, HE’S SLIDEY!
Tenay - Kazarian’s victory last week in the X division battle royal cannot be understated - IT PUTS HIM INTO #10 IN OUR TOP 10 RANKING SYSTEM!
Flair - FIGHT IT! FIGHT IT! FIGHT IT!
Taz - Flair grabs a $15,000 Rolex and just throws It out like whatever.
Taz - Orlando’s got some decals stuck to his upper pectorial aereola area.
JB - WEIGHING IN EXCESS OF 300 POUNDS - ABYSS!
Taz - Chelsea is lovely, but she’s also shady. Look at her face, she looks as happy to be here as I am working with you. Speaking of happy, there’s Orlando.
Tenay - He’s got Abyss pasties. (OJ does pec dance)Dancing pasties.
Taz - Orlando looked at Chelsea and it looked like he wasn’t too impressed with her fashion garb, or whatever the ladies call it today.
Tenay - He ripped off the Abyss pasties!
Taz - Where would you buy those? Not that I want any…
Tenay - ORLANDO’S TRYINIG TO REOPEN THE CUT ON ABYSS’S ARM!
Taz - Yeah, if you look at the cover of the book, it’s different than the inside of it.
(to OJ)Wolfe - GET UP, BUBBLE GUM!
Crowd - BUBBLE GUM! BUBBLE GUM! BUBBLE GUM!
RVD - I’m out here to talk to Sting, and I know you’re here. Sting. Somewhere. So. You gotta shot. At the TNA Championship. That’s what you wanted, right? You wanted the championship? Sting, I’m well aware of your iconic status. I’ve achieved a few accomplishments myself! Isn’t it amazing that our paths have never crossed before? They’re crossing now! At Slammiversary, they aren’t gonna go down the way you think they are. ICON OR NOT, YOU’RE MESSINGW ITH THE WHOLE F’N SHOW!
(after video plays of him beating RVD down with a bat)Sting - What I did to you then is just a small taste of what you’re gonna get a Slammiversary. I’M GONNA TAKE THE WORLD TITLE FROM YOU. IT’S GONNA BE SHOWTIME AT SLAMMIVERSARY!
Hogan - Now, everyone hates you - the good guys, the bad guys, the baby faces, the heels…
Anderson - I’m an asshole.
Hogan - It’s not about what you are, it’s about what you do.
Anderson - When I extended my hand to Jeff, I meant it. I mean it - I’m turning over a new leaf.
Hogan - You’ve got all the fans calling you an a-hole, and now you’re Mr. Sincerity?
Anderson - I’ll prove it! Watch what I do in the ring tonight. Actions speak louder than words.
Tenay - WE’RE HERE WITH PUPPET, THE OWNER OF HALF PINT BRAWLERS!
Puppet - WE GOT HARDCORE MIDGET WRESTLING, JACKASS STUNTS, AND GIRLS GONE WILD!
(on the BPs)Puppet - Know what they need? A MIDGET!
Taz - I tried, didn’t work.
Puppet - I think I just grew an inch.
Taz - Me too!
Puppet - We wrestled in front of a crowd at a maximum security prison! How many people can say they’ve wrestled in front of murderers!?
Taz - You old enough to drive, Puppet?
Puppet - Yeah, but I can’t reach the pedals.
Taz - Me either.
Puppet - You’re huge brother.
Taz - I wish they’d been around when I was a wrestler. I coulda been like Wilt Chamberlain.
Tenay - How do you keep that group of wrestlers tame?
Puppet - Get ‘em drunk.
Tenay - It’s a good thing we didn’t have the Spike cameras in Nashville when Puppet was around with JB…
Taz - Someone move this high chair out of the way.
Tenay - Did you help him out of the chair?
Taz - Nah, I’m sitting on a phone book.
Taz - This isn’t gonna go well. He’s drunk and they’re crazy anyway.
(after Puppet kisses her)Tenay - I think Lacey likes it!
Taz - If it’s got a pulse, it’s for Lacey!
Tenay - CALL HIM A CAB!
Taz - AND GET AHIM A RUBBER!
(on facing Wolfe)Jeff Hardy - I don’t have much experience with the European style.
Taz - What do you think about Wolfe?
Angle - I’ve wrestled him many times. He goes after whatever body part he wants!
Tenay - He really made his name against you, Kurt.
Taz - Desmond looks naked out there without Chelsea.
Angle - He’s probably lonely.
Taz - LONELY LIKE A WOLFE!
Angle - I’ve never wrestled Jeff Hardy before, so I’d love to wrestle him.
Taz - It’d be a dream match.
Angle - I want to have dream matches every time I wrestle. I gotta set new standards.
Tenay - How’d the month off do ya?
Angle - I was really banged up after three and a half years of going hard in TNA.
Angle - My shoulder’s still injured after a match with Wolfe.
Angle - What Is going on?
Morgan - Two weeks ago, we got jumped from the back by that savage Samoa Joe! NEXT WE GET ROBBED OF OUR TAG TITLES BY HALL AND NASH, AND NOW, WE’VE BEEN TOLD WE NEEDT OF IND ANOTHER PARTNER TO TEAM WITH AT SLAMMIVERSARY JUST TO GET BACK THE TNA TAG TITLES WE NEVER LOST!
Angle - He’s nuts - we?
Taz - He’s got a mouse in his pocket.
Morgan - WE’RE GONNA TURN THIS NEGATIVE INTO A POSITIVE. WE BELIEVE IN MAKING NEW STARS IN TNA, SO WHAT WE’RE GONNA DO, THANK ME LATER, IS GRANT AN OPEN INVITATION TO ANYONE IN THE BACK WHO WANTS TO BE ONE HALF OF THE TAG CHAMPS AT SLAMMIVERSARY!
Angle - Wouldn’t that be three? This is entertaining.
Morgan - WHO’S IT GONNA BE? You! Little bald kid in the back.
Angle - Me?
Morgan - Don’t play coy, YES YOU, LITTLE BALD GUY! Come on, kid, you’re holding up our show. SECURITY, THERE’S NOT GONNA BE ANY PHYSICALITY! We’re looking for a tag partner, kid! You wanna be a star on parallel with the Blueprint? What do you say?
Angle - I’m not a little bald guy, and the last time we were in the ring, didn’t I pin your ass.
Morgan - HAHAHA! A SENSE OF HUMOR, WE LOVE THAT! You’re starstruck, so we’ll ask you again - you want to be our partner or not…(knocks him down) NOT!
(Joe comes out)Morgan - THINK WE’RE SCARED OF YOU! (runs) WELL, WE’RE NOT GONNA GET THE ANSWER WE WANT TONIGHT, SO WE’RE OFF THE CLOCK!
(as both AJ and Anderson where blue with black and white trim)Taz - I’ll take the guy in blue.
Tenay - Really going out on a limb there.
(during a headlock>Irish Whip exchange)Crowd - WOOOOOOOAHHHHHHHHHHHH (AJ hits a dropkick) YAY!
Anderson - I don’t know how it keeps coming down here. Magic. You got me. He got me, folks. The coolest thing was you got me at my own freaking game. So you didn’t pull my tights? ASSHOLES, GOT A QUESTION - DID AJ PULL MY TIGHTS?
Assholes - YES HE DID! YES HE DID!
Anderson - YES YOU DID! (attacks AJ)
[quote name='Sigma']Waltman is such a waste. The last time he was on TV for longer than a month was when he did the Celebrity Rehab show.[/QUOTE]
Hall makes Waltman look like a workhorse. Waltman at least still had some spring in his step during his brief time in TNA. Here's hoping TNA has enough sense to never let Hall in the building again (assuming he could actually find his way there).
to say that hall or waltman are either really worth anyones time at this point is a stretch at all. how many chances can one person get, and that goes for both of them. nash has at least kept his shit together and im sure has gone to bat for both of them several times. hall seriously needs to call wwe and take them up on the paying for rehab thing. cause for s sake its been prolly the better part of a decade since they pulled the wcw storyline of him having alcohol issues so lord knows how long they were going on before then.
Waltman health bit from today's Observer news update -
-- Mark writes: X-Pac was on the Cowhead show down here in Tampa (same show where Bubba and Kong had their infamous showdown) and he admitted to having Hepatitis C (reason he missed the TNA PPV he "no-showed") and also talked about a suicide attempt in Mexico that Ryan Shamrock saved him after.
Rey and Taker had another really good match. I'm pretty sure it's impossible for them to have a bad one, and I loved the moonsault>tombstone finish. Everything involving Punk's mask and Striker being cut off every time he used a needlessly obscure reference by Grisham ruled, but the rest of the show was just kinda boring. Also, Punk's huge beard+mask reminded me of Delirious.
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"THE MASK DOESN'T ALLOW KANE TO SEE HIS FACIAL EXPRESSIONS!"
FAIL!
Quotes -
Long - By virtue of his NO DQ VICTORY OVER JACK SWAGGER, THE BIG SHOW HAS QUALIFIED FOR THE FATAL FOUR WAY! Also, CM PUNK IS JUST LIKE ME - BALD! (Drew comes out)
Drew - Right now, I should stell be Intercontinental champion - my match with Kofi should have been stopped. My arm was lacerated, I WAS IN EXTREME PAIN, BUT YOU ALLOWED THE MATCH TO CONTINUE. If you can’t do your job right, I’m gonna have to do it for you.
Long - That didn’t give you the right to trash my office and it doesn’t give you the right to interrupting me. Who do you think you are?
Drew - I’M THE CHOSEN ONE!
Long - I know. That’s all you wanna tell me? Well, lemme tell you something - when Matt Hardy gets his hands on you…
Drew - Mr. McMahon has demanded that you read this letter out lood.
Long - As a result of Matt Hardy’s reckless actions after the IC Title match at Over the Limit, he is hereby suspended without pay until further notice. Vincent Kennedy McMahon.
Drew - If you turn a blind eye to my misfortunes again, I guarantee you that the next letter you read will be about your termination as GM. (Matt comes out)
Swagger - And still World Heavyweight Champion. JACK SWAGGER. AND STILL THE WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION, THE ALL-AMERICAN AMERICAN, JACK SWAGGER!
Striker - The World Champion only has a 25% chance at retaining the COVETED CROWN AT FATAL FOUR WAY.
Grisham - Well, Show weighs a quarter of a ton, how about that fact?
Striker - Swagger and Show PREPARE TO DO BATTLE!
Striker - Some think that Tom Petty is the third Mulkey brother - but they’re wrong!
Striker - THE FATAL FOUR WAY IS A BRAND NEW CONCEPT!
Striker - Swagger also has a jelly bean named after him - it tastes like freedom!
Sign - Nat hates clip art!
Serena - Punk, everything’s gonna be okay. You still look beautiful.
Punk - I KNOW THAT - I’M NOT WORRIED ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK. I’m gonna go out there and they’re gonna mock me. I’m better than them - I don’t care if they mock me. I’M COURAGIOUS, UNLIKE THEM. IN FRONT OF THE WORLD, I’M GONNA RIP THIS TOWEL OFF MY HEAD AND SHOW THEM THE TRUE FACE OF CM PUNK!
Striker - I feel bad for Punk.
Grisham - Why!?
(after Punk reveals a mask)Grisham - HE’S SMARTER THAN YOU! HAAHAHAHAHA!
Gresham - That is a disturbing look.
Striker - Looks kinda like Red River Jack or Charlie Brown from Outta Town. Remember when Jimmy Valient…
Striker - THE MASK REALLY DOESN’T ALLOW KANE TO SEE CM PUNK’S EXPRESSION! I ALSO LIKE THAT THIS MAKES IT SO FANS CAN’T SAY “HEY I SAW CM PUNK’S BALD HEAD” - HAHAHAHAHA!
Grisham - Matt, you like the Bible - Samson lost his strength when he shaved his head.
Striker - His head was shaved.
Grisham - So was Punk’s - did he lose his mental strength!?
Striker - Punk has stars on his flag - perhaps an homage to the MASKED SUPERSTAR.
Grisham - OR THE CHICAGO FLAG!
Grisham - I get a Charles Manson feel when I look at CM Punk.
Striker - IT ONLY TAKES 3 SECONDS TO WIN A MATCH IN THE WWE! Unless you’re King Kong Bundy - then it takes 5.
Grisham - Punk is in bushels of pain!
Striker - Every time you cover a foe, you can FEEL how your opponent is breathing, so even though Kane can’t see CM Punk’s face, he can still tell if he’s in pain.
Striker - The Executioner, CM Punk - DR. X HIMSELF!
Grisham - Isn’t’ this basically a handicap match against Christian?
Striker - No - Hornswoggle is the final cruiserweight champion!
Striker - I think Vickie is hot - a woman in power is alluring.
Striker - Chavo is a 10-time champion here in WWE!
Striker - Chavo is a grappling superstar!
Striker - The Undertaker removes himself from the SmackDown kingdom, but his presence is always felt.
Grisham - Rey isn’t called the Giant Killer for nothing - he’s beaten bigger foes over a dozen times!
Striker - Taker’s moving better than he ever has in his career!
Punk-lirious was pretty awesome. Love the mask with the beard coming out mouth part. Vicky the cougar trying to get into Dolph's pants should be entertaining too as long as it they don't make it a face turn like the failed Eric Escobar experiment.
So not only can CM Punk summon masked SES ninjas from under the ring to assist, but Gallows too can do the same. Awesome!
Just bought from FYE The Bret Best there is, The Best there was, and The Best there ever will be Set, Hart and Soul, and Legacy of Stone Cold for 38 bucks. There used and Buy 2 get 1 free. I will be watching plenty of wrestling during the holiday.
going to a Smackdown show, thanks for the people that helped me with the seating question. its a houseshow, but never been to a wwe show before so hopefully its fun.
all the faces won which i guess is the norm for house shows, which included swagger losing...
DQ.
MVP partnered with Kane even did the 5 knuckle shuffle and MVP's taunt. cm punk wasn't there, but they had another person that looked exactly like him with a mask. most of the audience couldn't tell the difference.
The only thing that was surprising was the Cody was getting cheers and was even getting chants, he was the heel
[quote name='asgaga']cm punk wasn't there, but they had another person that looked exactly like him with a mask. most of the audience couldn't tell the difference.
[/QUOTE]
That was sarcasm, right?
And hey, Chavo and Layla both won! Weird pairing of Chavo and Masters, but I guess face/heel allegiances mean nothing when you're trying to quell the NXT uprising. I can't believe JTG beat Cody Rhodes, but then again, I saw RVD get pinned by Renee Dupree at a house show once.
Undertaker is rumored to be pulled from the Fatal 4 Way main event after suffering a broken orbital bone, broken nose, and concussion during his match with Rey Mysterio on Smackdown. Mysterio is the expected replacement should 'Taker be unable to wrestle.
A fan was thrown out of the WWE RAW live event on Friday night in New Orleans. Chris Jericho, before his match with John Cena, cut a promo on the fans and said that Cena is going down like the city did after Hurricane Katrina. Obviously Jericho got some major heat for this comment. Jericho was thrown over the fan barrier and into the first row during the match and was touched by a fan, which upset him. A fan then threw ice into Jericho’s eye and was escorted out of the building. The other fans who touched Jericho were also kicked out.
[quote name='JJSP']Undertaker is rumored to be pulled from the Fatal 4 Way main event after suffering a broken orbital bone, broken nose, and concussion during his match with Rey Mysterio on Smackdown. Mysterio is the expected replacement should 'Taker be unable to wrestle.[/QUOTE]
What the did Rey do, hit him with a baseball bat?
[quote name='pimpster4183']so.. you kick fans out because they're pissed at Jericho after he made fun of thousands of people dying basically? Good job WWE, class acts up there.[/QUOTE]
The fans are idiots for touching him, but I think he went a little too far. There's a very short list of things that shouldn't be used to draw heat, and I'd say Katrina is right there on the list next to 9/11.
Bryan put Miz in a crossface-ish thing, Miz tried to counter in a cradle, and the Bryan counted that into another cradle and won. Miz got pissed and threw Bryan out of the ring. Then Bryan got the one up on him and threw him over the announce table, into Cole.
Danielson won with a roll-up. Miz attacked him after the match, took him to the announce table, and tried to make him apologize to Cole. Miz tried to slam his head into the table, Danielson reversed it, and threw Miz over the table into Cole.
have they done to Orlando Jordan?
