The Dwayne Johnson Appreciation (Wrestling) Thread

[quote name='lmz00']Why are they pushing Evan Bourne? He seems too generic to do anything with. Maybe if they brought back the Cruiserweight title.[/QUOTE]

He can flip really good.
 
PWinsider embedded my Sheik video in one of their Q&As. I'm tempted to put a note at the beginning of the video with something like "Thanks for the link, Scherer! Also, your site is loaded with malware, quit pretending it isn't you pathetic shitbag!"
 
Is WWE taking stabs in the dark for a tag match as CS?

They'll have a tag team match at Cyber Sunday, but the wrestlers are picked, not the stipulation.

Choices are Cryme Tyme vs. John Morrison & The Miz, Mickie James & Jamie Noble vs. Layla & William Regal, and Kofi Kingston & CM Punk vs. Cody Rhodes & Ted DiBiase.

As for the Impact taping, it's completely stupid
how quickly the Joe/Sting feud is dropped. Joe is now feuding with Nash and Sting is feuding with AJ Styles.
 
I love the fact that we even HAVE that many tag team match choices that have relevant storylines behind them. If anything, it's criminal that all three (or at least two) of those matches aren't happening regardless.

Begs the question... do the wrestlers not selected still get a payday for the PPV? Sidenote: if not selected, this will mark the second PPV in a row where the FORMER CHAMPION THAT WAS NEVER ACTUALLY BEATEN hasn't competed. I understand that Punk is in a holding pattern until Orton is off the shelf, but seriously... talk about tossing a guy out with the trash.

Impact response:
the stipulation going into the Sting/Joe match was that there would be no rematch(es). So, it was sort of obvious that they'd both be going in different directions after BFG. It's ridiculous, but that's TNA for ya.
 
I find it odd that WWE chose not to do anything with Punk until Orton heals. At least toss him into the World title picture, since, as 007 said, he was never actualy lost the title. Or, at very least, pair him up with Kofi and have them feud with the Sperm Squad. All I know is that Punk gets a lot of cheers and it's wasteful to simply keep him on the sideline.

So, this TNA Legends title... I'm calling it now: Mongo versus Kevin Greene at Slammiversary. Perhaps in a Chihuahua on a Pole match with Stevie Ray as the guest referee?
 
[quote name='lmz00']Sperm Squad? Am I missing something? :[[/quote]

I'm guessing he was alluding to the fact that they're the offspring of two well-respected former wrestlers.
 
[quote name='lmz00']Sperm Squad? Am I missing something? :[[/quote]

[quote name='Purple Flames']I'm guessing he was alluding to the fact that they're the offspring of two well-respected former wrestlers.[/quote]


Winner winner chicken dinner*. :mrgreen:




*at Macho Man's Macho Chicken Shack
 
i iz sorreez :oops:

I can be a real son of a plummah.
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[quote name='Matt Young']He dove crotch first into a railing.[/quote]

Ouch.. I guess I have a reason to unRAR that Bound For Glory that I got like half a week ago.
 
JR's Blog) said:
The story that I have read on many internet sites about the reason for Cade's sudden dismissal isn't accurate. Many punhdits speculate that Cade was dismissed because of a bad performance in a recent TV bout against DX on Raw which is absolutely untrue. Lance's dismissal had zero to do with his in ring performances or his lack of ability.


Lance Cade was dismissed from the WWE because, like many humans, he made a major league mistake while utilizing bad judgment that cost him his job. This included Lance having a seizure on an airplane and having to have emergency medial care. Luckily, Lilian Garcia was on the same flight and was instrumental in helping Lance get taken to a hospital where a battery of tests were run that luckily determined that there was nothing seriously wrong with the young man such as a brain tumor, etc.


Everyone makes mistakes, Lord knows I have made plenty in my career, but in this day and time some mistakes just simply can't be condoned. To some fans, Lance Cade will likely still be perceived as the victim in this matter and his punishment too harsh.


Under the circumstances of the situation, I don't know what other decision the WWE could have made. I'm just relieved that it wasn't me in my former role that would have had to address this matter. I really like this kid and hope that he continues to follow his dreams. Second chances are not foreign in the wrestling business so perhaps that could be in Lance's future but that's just a personal observation.


Lance Cade is a talented young man whose best days should be ahead of him and I wish him nothing but success. Lance has been knocked down and now it is up to him to get off the canvas and get back in the game. I'm damn sure pulling for him.


Let's hope Lance's peers are paying attention to this situation.

Damn.
 
Reason for Cade getting shitcanned, via Jim Ross' blog:

As many of you know, Lance Cade was abruptly released from his contract this week much to the surprise of many of us. I have always thought that Cade had a wealth of physical potential and he was always a polite young man in my dealings with him. Like many fans, I too did my share of arm chair quarterbacking as to why Cade was not featured in a more prominent role on WWE TV programming. However it seemed that in the past several weeks those issues were being addressed even to the point of Cade defeating HBK on a recent Monday Night Raw.

The story that I have read on many internet sites about the reason for Cade's sudden dismissal isn't accurate. Many pundits speculate that Cade was dismissed because of a bad performance in a recent TV bout against DX on Raw which is absolutely untrue. Lance's dismissal had zero to do with his in ring performances or his lack of ability.

Lance Cade was dismissed from the WWE because, like many humans, he made a major league mistake while utilizing bad judgment that cost him his job. This included Lance having a seizure on an airplane and having to have emergency medial care. Luckily, Lilian Garcia was on the same flight and was instrumental in helping Lance get taken to a hospital where a battery of tests were run that luckily determined that there was nothing seriously wrong with the young man such as a brain tumor, etc.

Everyone makes mistakes, Lord knows I have made plenty in my career, but in this day and time some mistakes just simply can't be condoned. To some fans, Lance Cade will likely still be perceived as the victim in this matter and his punishment too harsh.

Under the circumstances of the situation, I don't know what other decision the WWE could have made. I'm just relieved that it wasn't me in my former role that would have had to address this matter. I really like this kid and hope that he continues to follow his dreams. Second chances are not foreign in the wrestling business so perhaps that could be in Lance's future but that's just a personal observation.

Lance Cade is a talented young man whose best days should be ahead of him and I wish him nothing but success. Lance has been knocked down and now it is up to him to get off the canvas and get back in the game. I'm damn sure pulling for him.

Let's hope Lance's peers are paying attention to this situation.
 
So... drugs then, assumably?

Like I had said earlier, there had to be a reason... there was no way they let him go 'just because'. They'll be more details soon, I'm sure.
 
[quote name='007']They'll be more details soon, I'm sure.[/quote]
Did people ever even find out why Hardy wasn't let on that plane?
 
[quote name='Chase']Winner winner chicken dinner*. :mrgreen:




*at Macho Man's Macho Chicken Shack[/quote]

I just had to say that I love that saying, "winnner winner chicken dinner".:D

[quote name='Chase']I find it odd that WWE chose not to do anything with Punk until Orton heals. At least toss him into the World title picture, since, as 007 said, he was never actualy lost the title. Or, at very least, pair him up with Kofi and have them feud with the Sperm Squad. All I know is that Punk gets a lot of cheers and it's wasteful to simply keep him on the sideline.

So, this TNA Legends title... I'm calling it now: Mongo versus Kevin Greene at Slammiversary. Perhaps in a Chihuahua on a Pole match with Stevie Ray as the guest referee?[/quote]


I would love to see that match in the TNA. I would pay good money, too, but if only TNA could possibly elucidate and explain that match as eloquently as you just have.:lol::applause:
 
[quote name='007']

But, what happened? Jericho GOT over and MAJORLY with a character that was winning underhandedly, but *without* needing the sidekick. Therefore, Cade was relegated to 'standing there' most of the time.

.[/quote]

What did you expect? Did you ever think Jericho would not go over? Jericho kicks ass, and is always under utilized in the WWE. He should have the WWE Champion belt by now.
 
[quote name='hiccupleftovers']What did you expect? Did you ever think Jericho would not go over? Jericho kicks ass, and is always under utilized in the WWE. He should have the WWE Champion belt by now.[/quote]

*I* didn't have any doubts, but let's remember that neither Vinnie Mac (or, by extension, HHH) have ever been high on Jericho's ability to draw.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']For all the people they send to rehab...to react in this way really piques my curiosity.[/quote]

Bingo. Either they REALLY wanted him gone anyway, or it was really something huge. I said it before, but it bears repeating... the man lost his job outright, even with the HBK backing. That's tough to do.

With the whole 'seizure' thing, I'm thinking that maybe one of the things that WWE doesn't tolerate real well is hard drugs. It's what I assume it'd have to be, since when talking about the seizure, JR mentioned bad personal choices. I'm not sure what else it *could* be.

[quote name='hiccupleftovers']What did you expect? Did you ever think Jericho would not go over? Jericho kicks ass, and is always under utilized in the WWE. He should have the WWE Champion belt by now.[/quote]

*I* didn't have any doubts, but let's remember that neither Vinnie Mac (or, by extension, HHH) have ever been high on Jericho's ability to draw.
 
[quote name='007']Bingo. Either they REALLY wanted him gone anyway, or it was really something huge. I said it before, but it bears repeating... the man lost his job outright, even with the HBK backing. That's tough to do.

With the whole 'seizure' thing, I'm thinking that maybe one of the things that WWE doesn't tolerate real well is hard drugs. It's what I assume it'd have to be, since when talking about the seizure, JR mentioned bad personal choices. I'm not sure what else it *could* be.[/QUOTE]

My guess would be soma's mixed with alcohol.
 
Ross on Cades release. He didn't let Triple H pedigree him.

According to Ross, it was a disciplinary measure following a bad case of judgment, with concluded with an incident on an airplane.

His release from the company was not due to his performance, most notably, in a tag match with DX on Raw a few weeks ago. Ross wrote: "The story that I have read on many internet sites about the reason for Cade's sudden dismissal isn't accurate. Many punhdits speculate that Cade was dismissed because of a bad performance in a recent TV bout against DX on Raw which is absolutely untrue. Lance's dismissal had zero to do with his in ring performances or his lack of ability." In case you missed it, there was a spot at the end of the match in which Shawn Michaels delivered the SuperKick to Cade. He was supposed to stand wobbly on his feet to run into a Pedigree from Triple H, but fell down instead. Audibly, Triple H told him to get up so he could deliver the move.

Ross doesn't go into detail, only to note that Cade made a bad decision. Following Cade's bad case of judgment, he ended up having a seizure on the plane, which required emergency medical care. Luckily for Cade, Lilian Garcia was on the same flight and helped him get taken to the hospital. Doctors performed a number of tests on him and determined that there was nothing seriously wrong with him.

Following the incident, Ross felt that WWE had no choice but to let Cade go. Ross appears to imply that the seizure was due to Cade's "bad judgment."

Ross wrote: "Lance Cade was dismissed from the WWE because, like many humans, he made a major league mistake while utilizing bad judgment that cost him his job. This included Lance having a seizure on an airplane and having to have emergency medial care. Luckily, Lilian Garcia was on the same flight and was instrumental in helping Lance get taken to a hospital where a battery of tests were run that luckily determined that there was nothing seriously wrong with the young man such as a brain tumor, etc.

Everyone makes mistakes, Lord knows I have made plenty in my career, but in this day and time some mistakes just simply can't be condoned. To some fans, Lance Cade will likely still be perceived as the victim in this matter and his punishment too harsh.

Under the circumstances of the situation, I don't know what other decision the WWE could have made. I'm just relieved that it wasn't me in my former role that would have had to address this matter. I really like this kid and hope that he continues to follow his dreams. Second chances are not foreign in the wrestling business so perhaps that could be in Lance's future but that's just a personal observation."
 
Here's the match from Monday. Skip ahead to 9:05 for the spot they were talking about:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeoSDUgkZvM[/media]

You can tell something went wrong when Cade didn't sell the Superkick properly and got right back up for the Pedigree. Was it a screwup on Cade's part? Yes. Worth canning the guy over? Hardly.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']For all the people they send to rehab...to react in this way really piques my curiosity.[/QUOTE]I suppose the public, rather dramatic nature of Cade's "outing" may have been what did him in. It's probably "better" to just get caught in a routine drug test.
 
Triple H may be an egomaniac but there's no way that a little flub like falling down after a kick would get Lance Cade fired like that. He must've been high on PCP on the plane.
 
"Wrestling physics" always amuse me. You must always fall down after a superkick... unless Triple H is standing behind you!!! Also if you're in a battle royal, you must sell a Stunner by standing up and staggering around.
 
^ I agree, and thought the same thing about the superkick.

That said, very few people sold the Stunner like The Rock did. Dude flipped all over creation every time he took it.
 
Reminds me of when DDP first showed up in WWE/F and gave Kane a diamond cutter. Kane kinda bent over, then realized what he needed to do, then fell on his face. It looked pretty bad.
 
TNA Spoiler

Lords Of Pain is reporting that Booker T will be introducing the "Legends Championship" to TNA. He'll defend the belt against "legends" and other opponents he feels are worthy.
 
[quote name='hankmecrankme']Reminds me of when DDP first showed up in WWE/F and gave Kane a diamond cutter. Kane kinda bent over, then realized what he needed to do, then fell on his face. It looked pretty bad.[/quote]

Nothing could ever be as bad as Linda McMahon receiving a stunner. I think a coat rack could've taken it better.
 
[quote name='hiccupleftovers']I just had to say that I love that saying, "winnner winner chicken dinner".:D




I would love to see that match in the TNA. I would pay good money, too, but if only TNA could possibly elucidate and explain that match as eloquently as you just have.:lol::applause:[/quote]


It's all coming to fruition, Hiccup. :bouncy:

[quote name='JJSP']TNA Spoiler

Lords Of Pain is reporting that Booker T will be introducing the "Legends Championship" to TNA. He'll defend the belt against "legends" and other opponents he feels are worthy.
[/quote]


Perhaps a Chihuahua on a Pole match with Paris Hilton as the special ring announcer/chihuahua donor, Stevie Ray on commentary, and Glacier's return to the ring against Mongo and Booker in a Three-Way Dance? :whistle2:k

TNA would be wearing money hats by the end of the night.
 
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