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[quote name='KaneRobot']Flair disc stuff...

Observer -


...that's IT? No Vader match at Starrcade = fuck you. That biography better be a full disc long if those are the only matches going on there.[/QUOTE]


That Flair/Sting Clash of the Champions match is what made me a wrestling fan.
 
I'm watching it, but I'm also writing the last part of my dissertation's concluding chapter.

I looked up to see Beth Phoenix walking out on Melina; Beth Phoenix is a trillion kinds of awesome.

That is all I have to comment on thus far.
 
[quote name='Matt Young']So, um.... the whole HBK injury angle was a pointless waste of time, then?[/QUOTE]

I would have rather they gone with HBK insisting he wasn't injured without Jericho trying to play wise.

IOW, set up the angle where HBK denies he is hurt (but it is obvious he is), but denies it and insists on wrestling as a point of pride.

Instead, we get whatever reason they're fighting. Eh.

"YOU'RE OFF DRUGS!"
"YOU'RE OFF DRUGS!"
"YOU'RE OFF DRUGS!"

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDii5iwxUbQ[/media]

Hearing Regal's new entrance music brings back memories of Hercules.
 
Shit.

I have writer's block for a minute and I know they're gonna have Murdoch sing some awful song awfully, but with no foreseeable payoff.

EDIT: Hmm, there is kind of a weird racial undertone here, isn't there? Though the white tag team is the heel group tonight.

EDIT2: Wow, Murdoch got fuckin' clobbered from that first punch.
 
Wait... this actually did lead to an payoff myke. Cade did turn on Murdoch... until next week when they are in yet another tag match with this completely forgotten right?
 
I rather like his new theme, although it's not perfect for him, it's a good-sounding song, and would work better as an entrance theme with some editing done to it.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']That song was like an audio bag of dicks.[/quote]

Okay, now I have to watch RAW tonight - if not just to hear what a bag of dicks sounds like. :lol:
 
[quote name='Demolition Man']No. Last night during the Roxxi head scalping at TNA Sacrifice.[/quote]

Ah, OK. Next time I'll check the time on the post.:) I still think they're dumb smarks though.
 
[quote name='chasemurata']Okay, now I have to watch RAW tonight - if not just to hear what a bag of dicks sounds like. :lol:[/QUOTE]

That's easy - fap fap fap!

Anyway, tonight's Raw was a good show, overall. I loved the Cade heel turn, HBK-Jericho segment, the Regal-Cena bit to open the show (with a TNA and Thunder jab thrown in for good measure), the Beth-Melina stuff came off well, and I liked the quick Cena-Mickie segment as well. Hardy's return match was good (I think it's impossible for he and Umaga to have a bad match), if a bit short, and I enjoyed Orton's new theme.

The main event was pretty good, and reminded me of the Cena of '07 who had great matches on a regular basis instead of the '08 version that, well, didn't. The ending worked at building up JBL-Cena (which had some good build thanks to JBL, but was in desperate need of something to hook people into wanting to see it on the PPV), and HHH-Orton, while also having Regal directly influence a match finish without resorting to a non-finish.

The world tag title match was short, but good for what it was. Cody's improving quite a bit at doing little gestures (like the finger twirl before the DDT) and improving his body language to be more expressive, which I like. It's a definitely improvement from the Generic CAW #265 act he'd had seemingly forever.

I wasn't a fan of the HHH beatdown of the entire ECW roster (which, as J.R. made sure to emphasize tonight, only has 14 people) being the show-opening video, and the HBK-Jericho segment was a bit strange as fans cheered HBK more as he kept on admitting that he lied to everyone, then kicked Jericho's face off. It was effective at making me want to see them square off at the PPV, but still irked me a bit because it was a little too heelish for my liking in this face vs. face feud.

Quotes -
(Lilian sings “God Save the Queen“, crowd boos)
Regal - How dare you disrespect my country. And how dare you disrespect me. Need I remind you that I am the GM and King, and that I can have you thrown out if I wish? I’ll do it. Security, throw these people out of the building. That’s what happens when you disrespect the king. I’ll have you all thrown out, there will be no refunds. (Mickie comes out) I don’t care if they’re your brother and his girlfriend, get them out now!
Would you like me to have you thrown out as well? Get out of the ring now before I have you thrown out. What part of “get out of the ring” don’t you understand? Would you like me to strip you of your women’s championship? LOOK AT ME! What I say…(Cena’s theme hits)
Cena - I’ve been away from a few weeks, and normally when I come back, I’m ready to raise some hell, but I gotta talk to you, man to man. I know what you’re going through, you’ve got a new position, you think that you’re doing the best you can. I know what it’s like to give your all to these people and have them tell you that you suck.
Regal - Mr. McMahon said that I can run this show however I choose.
Cena - Vince McMahon is insane. He talks to himself. A lot. He’s got a bunch of sexual past times you can’t even find on the internet!
Cena - Logan writes - this is bad, WCW Thunder bad. I’m going to write up a petition that says “Fire Regal (clap clap clap clap) Fire Regal (clap clap clap clap) Logan’s got a good idea! An 85 year old grandmother writes “William Regal is like pooping in my mouth” - THIS IS JUST ONE PAGE, I CAN GO ON ALL NIGHT!
(Crowd - FIRE REGAL (CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP) FIRE REGAL (CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP)
Regal - Is this how you truly feel?
Cena - They’re chanting Fire Regal, of course it’s how they truly feel.
Regal - Very well. Tonight, I give you my word I won’t be turning out the lights on any matches, and John, you haven’t been on Raw for 2 weeks because you got kicked in the head by Randy Orton at Backlash, and I know you want some revenge, so tonight, it will be John Cena one-on-one against Randy Orton.
Cena - Nobody gets that good so quick, when can I expect JBL’s theme to hit? After Orton hit’s the ring?
Regal - No, if anyone hit’s the ring who isn’t involved, they will be automatically suspended. Maybe I’ve earned a little bit of respect.
Cena - No, you just made a good match. You started the show with Lilian singing “God Save the Queen” - you’re in the U.S., son. So what I’m gonna do is give a word of advice - if you keep making bad decisions, not even God can help you. I don’t care where you’re from, but you gotta realize where you’re at. This is Detroit. This is the motor city, hockey town, THIS IS MOTOWN! Lilian, sing “Respect”
Kennedy - Ladies and gentlmen! I’VE GOT A BIG MOUTH, but no one’s gonna shut it for me because I’m MISTER KENNEDY! KENNEEDDDDDYYYY!
Lawler - Snitsky’s got plumber teeth - some are yellow, some are brown.
J.R. - Last week’s Raw was a stirring night for the 14, and I stress 14, members of ECW’s roster.
Lawler - J.R., you should try Mr. Kennedy’s intro - walk up to someone and say I’M GOOOD OLLLLEEE J.R.! J.RRRRRRRRRR!
Santino - I DID NOT COME DIS CLOSE TO CHAMPIONSHP GOLD TO HAVE IT RUINED BY RODNEY THE PIPER! THIS ISN’T THE 80S! RONALD REGAN ISN’T PRESIDENT, AND MICHAEL J. FOX ISN’T GOING BACK IN TIME TO BECOME A WEREWOLF! RODNEY THE PIPER, I’M COMING TO HURT YOU, AND IT’LL HURT WORSE THAN GETTING HIT IN THE HEAD WITH A COCONUT!
King - We heard it from Mickie’s own little mouth - she can do wild!
Jericho - There’s been a lot of controversy regarding Shawn Michaels’ knee injury, is it real, is it not real? Let’s look at the footage. Well, as you can see, a lot of people think that his injury is real. Me, I was in the minority, because I was the ref, I saw Shawn’s face and didn’t buy it. I’ve told everyone that it was a sham, and even gave him an award for his acting ability, a masterful job to play the injury to a hilt, but something happened last week that changed my mind. Let’s look at the footage. I saw the pain in his face when he gave the super kick to Morrison. I was wrong - Shawn really is hurt. For questioning his integrity, I’m sorry. Shawn, if you wanna call off our match at JD, I completely understand, and if you have too much pride to call it off, I’ll do it for ya, ‘cuz I don’t want to face Shawn with a bad wheel… (HBK’s theme hits)
HBK - Chris, I came out here…
Jericho - I wanted to apologize…
HBK - You don’t have to apologize...
Jericho - It’s the least I can do after talking about your knee injury.
HBK - Chris, you’re not the one who needs to apologize. For the first time in my career, I feigned an injury.
Jericho - Okay, I know what you’re doing. Very well played. You’re not gonna fool my twice. You’re trying to play some mind games. Shawn, come on, this isn’t my first day on the job. Does it say rookie on my forehead? I’ve been doing this for 17 years. That mental trickery might’ve fooled Batista, but it won’t fool me.
HBK - I told Batista, I told you, and I told everyone that I’d do whatever it takes to win, and I did just that. You’re right, I’m not hurt.
Jericho - Now you’re starting to insult my intelligence, every time… I’M ONTO YA, I know in my heart that you’re hurt, it doesn’t matter what you say, what you do…(HBK super kicks him)
HBK - Trust me when I tell ya - I’m not hurt!
(Jeff returns, crowd chants HARDY)Jeff - Man, it feels good to be back! I never wanted to be away from any of you, but the truth is, I made a mistake, and I paid for it. Now that I’m back, I’ve got a lot of things to do. Like become Intercont… (Regal cuts mic off, comes out)
Regal - Something wrong with your mic, dear? There’s obviously something wrong with you. In fact, I think you should be punished for your sins, therefore, you’re about to compete against this man (YOUMANGA comes out) Get me a referee. (crowd chants LET’S GO HARDY! LET’S GO HARDY!)
JTG - YEA WE GETTING’ IT POPPIN!
J.R. - Jim Ross and my dawg, Jerry “the King” Lawler, back with ya on Raw!
(JTG visits Hogan impersonator during match)J.R. - BROTHER! BROTHER!
King - It’s the Hulk!
Murdoch - YOU GOTTA KNOW WHEN TO HOLD ‘EM, KNOW WHEN TO FOLD ‘EM, KNOW WHEN TO WALK AWAY! KNOW WHEN TO RUN, YOU BETTER COUNT YOUR MONEY WHEN YOU’RE SITTING AT THE TABLE! (Cade attacks him, crowd chants YOU SUCK at Cade)
Orton - HHH calls himself the cerebral assassin, but who was it who emerged victorious at WrestleMania? Who left HHH laying last week? Randy Orton. I had six months of dominance. It was called the Age of Orton. As for Cena, in a few minutes, he’s gonna learn what HHH already knows - I’m not only the most athletically gifted performer in WWE, I’m also the smartest.
King - Orton is the complete package.
J.R. - He certainly is the total package now.



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"Shawn, Break Our Hearts"






 
It sounds like another fly-by-night group of brick-wallers trying to capture the current hip rock sound and failing miserably at it.

In five years, the singer'll be stocking paper plates at Wal-Mart and telling their coworkers about how they spent their WWE check on "Kentucky Tavern" and half an eight-ball. Or something similar: god knows he doesn't have a music career in his future.
 
Raw was pretty eh. I did :lol: hard at HHH dropping the title on his way to the ring for some reason.

I like Orton's new theme (though I do have a taste for "shitty" music), but I still think he should've kept his other "new" theme from 2006 (CM Punk's current theme).
 
[quote name='JaytheGamefan']This was easily the worst monthly PPV from TNA that I can recall - even other filler shows like Destination X were solid in the ring, if forgettable. Here, the in-ring action wasn't particularly good or memorable, and the show as a whole didn't accomplish much.[/quote]

Yeah dude.. yeah. :cry:

It's a shame really, TNA used to be sooo good.. now they're just sooo bad.
 
[quote name='PhrostByte']Yeah dude.. yeah. :cry:

It's a shame really, TNA used to be sooo good.. now they're just sooo bad.[/QUOTE]

Seriously, it's like they took the worst of what they once were and combined it with the worst of WWE/WCW

I'm still praying for the day they wake up and get their shit straight.
 
Sacrifice isn't the worst TNA monthly PPV ever as a number of 2007 PPVs are far worse. The problem is that Sacrifice was too bland and far too matches feeling like the same thing to really make you give an damn. There was some good moments on the show such as the Terrordome match if you love nonstop spot fests plus Gail Kim vs Roxxi's short ladder match was fun too... again.... if you love spot fests.

At best Sacrifice could be the start of TNA getting some good things going on if TNA plays things right. We'll see what TNA does with this.

TNA spoilers below

Abyss is supposed to return soon.

Impact spoilers for this Thursday:

Alex Hernandez of PWinsider.com reported the following:

Xplosion:

*Robert Roode defeated Curry Man.

Impact:

*TNA champion Samoa Joe comes out and announces the main event of the 6/8 Slammiversary PPV will be the King of the Mountain match. Joe says that there will be eight competitors total including himself - Jim Cornette has told him he will pick four challengers and Joe will get to pick the rest. Cornette has picked Robert Roode, Matt Morgan, James Storm and Tomko. Joe says he will name the other challengers next week. Booker T comes out and demands to know why wasn't picked and tells Joe that if Joe doesn't pick him, there will be serious consequences. Booker slaps Joe and they brawl. Christian Cage and Rhino hit the ring. Booker challenges them to a match later tonight and says he'll find partners.

*Kaz & Jay Lethal & Sonjay Dutt defeated Johnny Devine & The Rock N' Rave Infection. After the match, Lethal asks So Cal Val to marry him at Slammiversary and she accepts. Sonjay didn't look happy and had some great facial expressions here.

*TNA Knockouts champion Awesome Kong defeated Gail Kim with the help of Angelina Love.

*Kurt Angle came out and read a letter to Karen asking to take him back and said he hoped she would come to Impact next week.

*TNA Tag Team champions LAX defeated The Motor City Machineguns in a non-title bout.

*Angelina Love and Velvet Sky, now given the team name "The Beautiful People" defeated ODB and Roxxi.

*TNA champ Samoa Joe & Christian Cage & Rhino defeated Team 3D & Booker T. After the match, 3D attacked and bloodied Hector Guerrero.
 
[quote name='JaytheGamefan']I hope that happens -
I've missed the Abyss song.
[/QUOTE]

Yeah....
I miss the "Oh The Abyss" chants from the Impact Zone seals. Then again that was all from the better days of TNA when Scott D'Amour was booking.

God TNA needs to give him the books again... anyone other than Mantel/Russo.
 
Yes, but many, many, MANY people are not BUYING their product, which is what TNA should be focusing on. If they changed some stuff around and treated the shows and PPVs seriously (like they did for Lockdown, just one month ago), they could make more money - that PPV alone is on track to do TNA's best number in over a year.
 
Okay, I just watched Orton enter with his new music.

How does it work for Randy Orton?

"The voices in my head
Care for me
Are there for me
They talk to me"

Again, how does the theme work for Randy Orton? Will we see a gimmick change? If not, it doesn't fit his character at all.

Edit: Okay, I take it back, Orton's theme will work if they give him a Going Crazy Without A Title gimmick that they teased with the camera shot used during the "Let's Go Orton/Let's Go Cena" chant.
 
I thought it was interesting that you could easily tell that the people chanting for Orton were guys, and the people chanting for Cena were girls and kids by the listening to the pitch of their voices. I'm sure that's always the case, although this is the first time I actually paid attention/noticed it.
 
[quote name='chasemurata']Cryme Tyme brings black people back 50 years.

Michael Hayes: "I know, I created them myself."[/QUOTE]

I dunno, seems black people like the team. Everytime Cryme Tyme comes out, the camera cuts to a black dude having the time of his life in the audience :rofl:
 
[quote name='chasemurata']Cryme Tyme brings black people back 50 years.

Michael Hayes: "I know, I created them myself."[/quote]

Well, he originally wanted them to come out and throw watermelon and fried chicken into the crowd, but I guess that got shot down.
 
[quote name='CouRageouS']I dunno, seems black people like the team. Everytime Cryme Tyme comes out, the camera cuts to a black dude having the time of his life in the audience :rofl:[/quote]

I just take it for what it is. A character on a fictional show. Doesn't mean it isn't insensitive, but WWE plays stereotypes of all kind of people. Finlay with a leprechaun, Umaga as an unitelligable savage, women as sexual objects. Just another day at the office at Stamford.
 
All the Kurt Angle stuff a few pages back reminded me of when he was talking to Brock Lesnar about HHH's injury and was basically like "What a pussy. HHH tore his quad and was out for eight months. I tear my quads all the time. As a matter of fact, I tore mine this morning, but here I am, jumping around." (Or something like that.) I thought it was rather funny.
 
[quote name='lmz00']All the Kurt Angle stuff a few pages back reminded me of when he was talking to Brock Lesnar about HHH's injury and was basically like "What a pussy. HHH tore his quad and was out for eight months. I tear my quads all the time. As a matter of fact, I tore mine this morning, but here I am, jumping around." (Or something like that.) I thought it was rather funny.[/quote]

God I miss Kurt Angle in WWE.
 
[quote name='lmz00']I thought it was interesting that you could easily tell that the people chanting for Orton were guys, and the people chanting for Cena were girls and kids by the listening to the pitch of their voices. I'm sure that's always the case, although this is the first time I actually paid attention/noticed it.[/quote]

It was the same thing at No Way Out.

NOAH's May Schedule (Only Matches Featuring ROH Talent)
Highlighted all the goodies.

Note: Full cards can be found...um...NOAH's USA website? I DON'T KNOW! I wish RD still did Green Destiny
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May 15:
-BRYAN DANIELSON vs. Atsushi Aoki
-ROH World Title Match: NIGEL McGUINNESS vs. KENTA vs. BJ WHITMER-RAPTOR & Magnitude Kishiwada vs. Yoshinobu Kanemaru & Ippei Ota

May 16: [SEM show]
-BRYAN DANIELSON vs. BJ WHITMER
-NIGEL McGUINNESS & Shuhei Taniguchi vs. Bison Smith & Atsushi Aoki
-RAPTOR vs. Ricky Marvin

May 17:
-BRYAN DANIELSON, Bison Smith & Akitoshi Saito vs. Jun Akiyama, Takeshi Rikioh & Atsushi Aoki [Main Event]
-NIGEL McGUINNESS, BJ WHITMER & RAPTOR vs. Mitsuharu Misawa, Yoshinari Ogawa & Taiji Ishimori

May 18:
-BRYAN DANIELSON & Yoshinobu Kanemaru vs. KENTA & Taiji Ishimori-BJ WHITMER & Bison Smith vs. Jun Akiyama & Takeshi Rikioh

May 21:
-BRYAN DANIELSON, NIGEL McGUINNESS & BJ WHITMER vs. Mitsuharu Misawa, Yoshinari Ogawa & Kotaro Suzuki

May 23: [one of these is an error in the listings, perhaps?]
-BRYAN DANIELSON, NIGEL McGUINNESS & RAPTOR vs. Takeshi Morishima, Kentaro Shiga & Atsushi Aoki
-BJ WHITMER vs. Takeshi Morishima

May 24:
-BRYAN DANIELSON, BJ WHITMER & RAPTOR vs. Mitsuharu Misawa, Yoshinari Ogawa & Taiji Ishimori

May 26:
-BRYAN DANIELSON & Bison Smith vs. Mitsuharu Misawa & Kotaro Suzuki-RAPTOR vs. Naomichi Marufuji

May 27:
-BRYAN DANIELSON, NIGEL McGUINNESS & BJ WHITMER vs. Kenta Kobashi, Tamon Honda & Tsuyoshi Kikuchi
-RAPTOR & Bison Smith vs. Yoshihiro Takayama & Takuma Sano

May 28: [SEM show]
-Marufuji & Aoki vs KENTA & Ishimori
Sugiura vs Hirayanagi
Ota vs Bison
Yone & Taniguchi vs NIGEL & WHITMER
DANIELSON vs RAPTOR

May 30:
-NIGEL McGUINNESS & BJ WHITMER vs. Bison Smith & Akitoshi Saito

June 1:
-Matches TBA

June 14:
-Matches TBA

NOAH's next tour is Summer Navigation: June 29, July 1 [SEM], July 2, July 3, July 5, July 6, July 8, July 9, July 11, July 12, July 13 & July 18.

Credit: ROH Boards
 
[quote name='Mr. Beef']Seems like I'm the only one who likes Cryme Time.

=/[/QUOTE]

I think they'd be a lot better if they toned it down big time and tried to be a little more subtle. They try so hard that it just comes off as forced and corny.
 
[quote name='Zen Davis']
May 16: [SEM show]
-BRYAN DANIELSON vs. BJ WHITMER
-NIGEL McGUINNESS & Shuhei Taniguchi vs. Bison Smith & Atsushi Aoki
-RAPTOR vs. Ricky Marvin
[/quote]

Bison Smith still wrestles?! Jeez, I haven't seen him since his All-Pro Wrestling days. I figured he left pro-wrestling by now.

[quote name='JaytheGamefan']Penny Banner passed away last night - http://www.wrestlingobserver.com/wo/news/headlines/default.asp?aID=22861

She was a legendary female wrestler for many years, and in recent years, was a popular poster on the Wrestling Classics board, where she was very giving of her time to anyone who posed a question to her. An article on her life is up at http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Wrestling/2008/05/13/5551371.html[/quote]

May she rest in peace.
 
Just bought Manhattan Mayhem, Death Before Dishonor III, Dragon Gate Challenge, Supercard of Honor and Better Than Our Best for $30 shipped.

Can't wait.
 
I've watched every episode of ECW (despite one that was caused by a power outage here) and this is the first time I've turned off the show. I'm tired of Punk losing. He loses like ALL THE TIME! Most of them clean as well. Like him or not, why the hell would you destroy your MITB winner? Oh yea, it's WWE.
 
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