The Ernest "The Cat" Miller Wrestling Thread

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[quote name='mykevermin']When was Torrie released?[/quote]

They made an announcement on WWE.com 4 hours ago, so I guess today. But yeah, given that doctors told her to retire, the company basically did it to protect her.
 
[quote name='JaytheGamefan']Today's Observer site news update - http://www.wrestlingobserver.com/wo/news/headlines/default.asp?aID=22813

It's got more on Torrie's release (which isn't shocking in the least given that she was told to retire), more on the attack to Gregory Helms, information about how to send get well wishes to RVD's wife, a good update on Superstar Billy Graham (he's back doing autograph sessions), and a link to a Flair tribute vid located at www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqCmk8kC9X0

Some shoot interviews.

Jim Cornette - RF Video
http://www.sendspace.com/file/wv30aq

Vince Russo - RF Video
http://www.sendspace.com/file/pi9h0b[/quote]

Thanks for the shoot interviews, Jay. :D
 
[quote name='tangytangerine']They made an announcement on WWE.com 4 hours ago, so I guess today. But yeah, given that doctors told her to retire, the company basically did it to protect her.[/quote]

No word on the dog yet?
 
[quote name='Mr_hockey66']Maybe she got aids from sleeping her way to the top?[/quote]

What a shame, she just got over the Seven Year Itch.
 
I figured they would've at least kept her around for promotional appearances and other such things.

Watch out for her debut on next week's episode of iMPACT.

Just kidding.
 
[quote name='lmz00']I figured they would've at least kept her around for promotional appearances and other such things.
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That's what I find odd, considering that she's been saying in interviews that she would likely have done the same deal Flair did, with no wrestling, but public appearances and PR.

I wonder what happened, maybe Torrie wasn't a big enough name. Or maybe she got some sort of disability claim that is more profitable than remaining employed.

Shame, though. Always liked her.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']They have enough tits without her.

Apparently the women in WWE are useless if they can't wrestle.

:rofl:[/quote]

I wonder what kind of wrestling Vickie has to do to keep her job...
 
[quote name='mykevermin']They have enough tits without her.

Apparently the women in WWE are useless if they can't wrestle.

:rofl:[/quote]


Oh, the irony. Hehehe... :whistle2:#

And Torrie Wilson retired due to a severe back injury.

*waits for tribute videos* ;)
 
SHIT.

TNA is running a house show at the Cincinnati Gardens, where we have local roller derby bouts.

Not only am I gonna have to clean the track up before TNA comes to town, I won't even get to go to the house show because I'll be in Philly that weekend.

Bollocks.
 
[quote name='Bezerker']I wonder what kind of wrestling Vickie has to do to keep her job...[/quote]

Naked catch-as-catch-can. :drool:
 
[quote name='chasemurata']Oh, the irony. Hehehe... :whistle2:#

And Torrie Wilson retired due to a severe back injury.

*waits for tribute videos* ;)[/QUOTE]


Yeah its from carring those fake tities around all day. That would hurt my back too! She should sue! They made her get em them. Then fire her ass cause them big ole fake titties hurt her back. Isn't that workers comp?
 
[quote name='lmz00']How about I start another Ernest Miller thread over there? :D[/QUOTE]

Yeah, let's pretend that the RoH forum is actually a late 90s WCW one :)

first thread - FINGERPOKE OF DEATH
 
Yet another mixed-bag show, as I liked the Sting-Storm no DQ match, which had some new spots from Sting (Stinger splash through a table), and told a fine little story. It did, however, completely kill any appeal for a possible PPV rematch. I also enjoyed the immunity pole match, which was better than most pole matches in TNA,. I didn't like Joe being a complete afterthought on the final show before "the biggest three-way in TNA history", and the Terror Dome stips and competitors just being announced 3 days before the PPV bugged me as well (as did TNA announcing the damned thing just 10 days before the PPV).

For one thing, the PPV shouldn't be so gimmick heavy, but if you're going to make a gimmick-heavy PPV, at least do a good job of building them up. I'd say they did about as good a job as they could on the makeover match and the Deuces Wild tourney, but they completely bungled the build to the TERROR DOME, which is being hyped up as this huge deal, and is being wasted on the X division wrestlers, who are mostly just jokes now. This match just seems like yet another easily forgotten undercard match for the number 1 contendership of a title - it'll probably end up being a good match, but the build has been horrid and I can't imagine how it's supposed to increase the buyrate of the show.

Kip-Morgan was highlighted by Kip's pre-match promo, where he called himself the megastar, and the real reason that DX succeed. Kip as a delusional nutball character works pretty well and is very amusing. The match itself was no great shakes, but I didn't expect much out of it. Why Kip and Morgan are feuding, and why we're supposed to really care about them teaming up at the PPV isn't quite clear. Really, Kip should be the face in this feud, as he was attacked for no reason by Morgan, but Morgan's the face because Kip's insane. Or something.

BG's promo breaking down the remaining team combinations was good - I like how he's willing to point out his shortcomings on the show - it makes me want to see him do more in the company. He did a good job of explaining the dynamics of him teaming up with any of the remaining people, and I'd like to see TNA go with the obvious route here and have Booker team with Roode and BG team with Kong, which would allow them to continue the Roode-Booker feud, and possibly lead to Kong starting to wrestle male wrestlers if she turns on BG.

Aside from making me want to see Deuces Wild, this show didn't do much to make me want to buy the PPV. It made me want to see Steiner-Angle-Joe less than I did after last week's show, which had that fantastic promo from Steiner. This one just had Steiner tapping out to close it, which didn't do Steiner any favors as far as looking like a credible threat to the world title. They tried to build him up with the "he was a collegiate all-American in college" bit during the ad breaks, but like the build for Sting-Angle at BFG '07 focusing on Atlanta being a major locale for both men, the actual build for the match during the show didn't do anything to make me want to see it, while the quick commercials did.

Sacrifice comes off an overly-gimmicked B-show that really doesn't seem like a big deal. The world title clearly isn't changing hands, the X title isn't being defended, and it has a revolving door of number 1 contenders, so the Terror Dome is largely meaningless, and the only division that will seemingly have any freshening up is the tag division, which would probably benefit from having a team hold the belts who have never held them before.

Quotes -
Cornette - Last week here on Impact, I announced the names of the 8 individuals in this Sunday’s Deuce’s Wild tournament. This week, I’d like to bring out the egotistical 8 - BRING ‘EM OUT!
Tenay - I thought Sting’s words last week were accurate - he said TNA was a loony bin!
Cornette - Gentlemen and lady, I thought I made myself very clear last week about the Deuce’s Wild tournament, however, in the past week, you’ve been ringing my phone off the damn hook asking “WHO’S MY PARTNER”, except you Sting, which I appreciate, since you grasp the concept! What we’re gonna do tonight is draw 2 of the teams tonight, 1 right now, 1 at the top of the hour, and the other 2 drawn at Sacrifice. All 8 of your names are in this fish bowl . Without further ballyhoo or who shot John, I’m gonna draw the first name…THE FIRST NAME IS THE ICON STING! Sting, please come to the ring.
Tenay - ISN’T IT IRONIC THAT THE ONE WHO WASN’T RINGNING CORNETTE’S PHONE OFF THE HOOK WAS PICKED FIRST!?
Cornette - Sting, draw the name of the man or woman who will be your partner this Sunday at Sacrifice. …AND YOUR PARTNER WILL BE…COWBOY JAMES STORM! COME ON DOWN!
DW - THAT’S WHAT THE TOURNAMENT’S ALL ABOUT - MAKING SACRIFICES!
Tenay - THINK BACK, STING COMES BACK TO TNA AND STORM BREAKS A BEER BOTTLE OVER HIS HEAD!
Storm - You’re not my friend, you’re not my friend, and unlike you, my mama didn’t let me play with makeup! (Sting beats him up)
Cornette - HOLD ON, HOLD ON ONE SECOND! STORM, YOU WANNA FIGHT, STING YOU WANNA FIGHT!? THE TEAMS YOU’VE DRAWN TONIGHT WILL HAVE MATCHES, THEY’LL HAVE MATCHES WITH EACH OTHER. STORM, TONIGHT, IN THIS RING, YOU’RE GOING ONE ON ONE WITH STING! AND YOU WANNA USE BOTTLES AND BATS? WE’RE GONNA MAKE IT NO DQ! GIMME A LITTLE TRAVELIN’ MUSIC, JOHNNY!
Steiner - TONIGHT, WE WILL CO-EXIST AS ONE TO ELIMINATE SAMOA JOE! WHEN I GOT TO CASH IN MY HEAVYWEIGHT…
Angle - For one night, we work as a team, and we annihilate Joe and Nash, and we beat Joe up so badly that he has nothing left at Sacrifice. Then you’ll have a one-on-one title match for the TNA title, but it won’t be against Joe, it’ll be against me. Do we have a deal?
Steiner - DEAL!
Tenay - This Sunday, the Terror Dome debuts!
(on Terror Dome)Ad Guy - The winner must climb the cage and escape through the tiny hole above!
Tenay - THE NEXT STEP FROM TNA, THE COMPANY THAT HAS REINVENTED THE PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING MEAL WITH ITS INNOVATIVE IDEAS, CONTINUES THIS SUNDAY! Curry Man is one of the men who will try to tame the Terror Dome this Sunday at Sacrifice!
DW - WE NOW KNOW IT’LL BE 10 X DIVISION ATHLETES LOCKED INSIDE THE TERROR DOME! ONCE THAT HAPPENS, YOU MUST FIND A WAY TO CLIMB THE CAGE, CLIMB THROUGH THE HOLE, AND BECOME THE NUMBER 1 CONTENDER TO THE X DIVISION TITLE!
Tenay - It really makes sense for TNA, the company that brings you the six sided ring, the six sided cage, ultimate X, to bring you THE TERROR DOME! IT’S ONLY IN TNA!
DW - The best way it’s been described to me is it’s like six sides of steel combined with ultimate X - think of the danger involved in those two matches and put them together!
Tenay - IT’S THE PERFECT BATTLEGROUND FOR THE STARS OF THE X DIVISION! CONSIDER THAT THE STRUCTURE RISES SOME 30 FEET ABOVE THE FLOOR!!!
Tenay - Rick Steiner is gonna be at Sacrifice, as is Frank Trigg, who will be joining us on commentary for the main event - and we know how pro-Angle he is!
DW - The Terror Dome is a bragging rights-style of match. First, to win the first one, and second, to showcase how good you are!
DW - DOUBLE LARIOTO! WHAT A CLOTHESLINE BY CURRY MAN!
DW - CREED GOES FOR THE SHAKE AND BAKE, BUT HE MISSES IT!
JB - Sting, this Sunday, at Sacrifice, your partner will be James Storm, but tonight, you will be facing that very man! What do you make of this?
Sting - What do I make of it? THIS IS PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING - IT’S A THREE RING CIRCUIS, JUST THE WAY I LIKE IT! TONIGHT, WE’RE GONNA GO OLD-SCHOOL - WE’RE GONNA BEAT EACH OTHER UP, AND THEN WE’RE GONNA BEAT EACH OTHER UP MORE UNTIL WE WORK OUT WHAT EVER WE NEED TO WORK OUT UNTIL YOU FALL IN LINE LIKE A GOOD LITTLE SOLDIER! THEN AT SACRIFICE, WE’RE GONNA BECOME TAG TEAM CHAMPS!
Ad Guy - Up Next, Jim Cornette randomly selects another team for Sacrifice!
Cornette - LADIES, QUIET! I’ve called you all here today because ever since I announced the makeover battle royal, where one of you gets a title shot, and the other gets your head shaved bald, just as you’ve been doing now, you’ve been making more static than a $2 iPod. I’m not evil, I want you to think of me as a father figure (points to Christy and Traci) especially you and you. I’ve made an immunity match - the winner is IMMUNE from having their head shaved at Sacrifice. You’re all gonna be in the ring, we’re gonna take a big tall 10 foot pole in the corner of the ring. I see people here with experience hanging off of poles, (he points to Christy) I talking about you again, and we’re gonna put a nice set of barber sheers on top of the pole - whoever gets the sheers is immune from having their head shaved at Sacrifice. If the winner of that loses at Sacrifice, the runner-up gets her head shaved. GO GET SOME RATINGS! This Sunday, the good TNA fans are paying to seeing one of you get your head shaved as bald as an egg!
DW - Coming up - IT’S THE IMMUNITY MATCH!
DW - THE FLYING FIRECROTCH GULLOTINE COMES UP SHORT!
(on the plan of Angle and Steiner to hurt him before the PPV)Joe - Boys, I think you overlooked one thing - what are you gonna do about Kev? He’s my insurance policy. You’re not gonna kick him to the curb. You better bring baseball bats, you better bring pipes, you’ll NEVER TAKE THIS BELT FROM ME! I’LL DIE BEFORE I LOSE THIS BELT!
(on Storm-Sting no DQ)Tenay - This is a fight that evolved when their names were drawn at random!
DW - Storm smacked Sting right in the head - WHAT A SMACK!
(he shows up with a bulge in his shorts, JB is amazed)Kip - Don’t be jealous, just don’t touch. NOBODY IS ON THE SAME PLANET AS THE MEGASTAR, KIP JAMES! I’ve taken three different partners to tag team gold - I SET THE STANDARDS IN THIS BUSINESS! I made DX! Not the redneck, not the I’m glad I still have a heartbeat kid, not Waltman, even though I like the kid, or that big-nosed PIECE OF… BE GLAD YOU GOT THE MEGASTAR, KIP JAMES, FOR ONE NIGHT ONLY!
Cornette - AS PROMISED, IT IS TIME NOW TO PICK THE SECOND TEAM FOR THIS WEEKEND’S DEUCES WILD TAG TEAM TOURNAMENT FOR THE TNA TAG TEAM TITLES!
DW - IF THAT LAST MATCH BETWEEN STORM AND STING DIDN’T ADD TO THE INTRIGUE, NOTHING WILL!
Tenay - VKM reunited?
DW - THINK ABOUT IT!
Tenay - Booker is one of the most decorated singles wrestlers ever, but think about the team he formed with his brother!
DW - WHAT A TEAM THAT WAS!
Tenay - WHAT IF ROBERT ROODE WERE TO DRAW BOOKER T!?
Cornette - Politics and pro wrestling make strange bedfellows - let’s see if we can make another Barack-Clinton face-off tonight! The first man for the second team is THE BLUE PRINT MATT MORGAN! Pick an envelope, any envelope. Wouldn’t you know who won the pony? Your partner is your best buddy, KIP JAMES!
DW - CAN YOU IMAGINE THIS SUNDAY, KIP JAMES AND MATT MORGAN WORKING TOGETHER! I CAN’T!
Kip - At Sacrifice, I AM YOUR DADDY! I TELL YOU WHAT TO DO, WHEN TO DO IT, AND YOU DO IT! DO YOU UNDERSTTAND!?
Cornette - Matt, you don’t have anything to say about that?
Morgan - I’ve got two words to say to this jackass - SUCK IT!
Cornette - LET ‘EM FIGHT, LET’S GET THIS THING STARTED NOW!
Tenay - WHY PUT OFF THE INEVITABLE!? LET’S TURN ‘EM LOOSE NOW!
Tenay - TEXT TNA TO 6300 - DO IT RIGHT NOW!
Tenay - This is what Deuces Wild is all about - sure, the draws were random, but the idea was to make SACRIFICES in order to become TNA Tag Team Champions!
Tenay - You’ve gotta join us at Sacrifice for two reasons - 1, to find out who Awesome Kong’s partner is, and 2, to see if they win!
BG - Let’s start off with Booker T - I thought of us as two bros, he has the dreads, and I used to have them, but they don’t play so well on a fat white guy anymore. Robert Roode, young, athletic, and handsome…I’m D-O-Double G ugly and broke as a convict, so we don’t fit like a glove. Awesome Kong - she’s the only one who can make me look good. That’d be an interesting pairing.
Tenay - THIS SUNDAY, TNA PRESENTS ONE OF THE MOST INTRUGIING LINEUPS IN PAY-PER-VIEW HISTORY!
Steiner - Borash, everyone knows I don’t like Kurt - Kurt, I don‘t like you!. TNA NEEDS US, WE’RE TWO THOROUGHBREADS, TWO REAL ATHLETES! NOT SOME FAT PIECE OF SHIT LIKE JOE!
Angle - I’m level-headed, I don’t know if muscle-head can handle it.
Steiner - I can handle anything you can handle, only better.
Angle - How about that muscle between your ears?
Petey - Come on, Scotty, the reason we don’t get along is because we’re so similar - look at these Olympic-level bodies. It’ll only take 10 minutes, or maybe only 66 1/3 percent of that time! Come on!
Tenay - This Sunday, it’s the biggest three-way in TNA HISTORY!
Tenay - To me, the help of Kevin Nash has been the reason that Joe not only won the title, but defended it successfully!
Tenay - Nash got the lead pipe from behind and then Scott Steiner slipped in!

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TNA - home of THE GIANT PHALLIC STEEL CAGE...


...which is won by climbing through the urethra


Rave breaks Petey's face


Christy does the Curry Man dance!


The Impact Zone fans scare me




















Sting strolls down PPV way...






JB stares at Kip's crotch


...and Cornette appears dumbfounded










 
Kevin Nash said there are similarities between working for Vince McMahon and Jeff Jarett during an interview with the UK Sun. "With creative, in WWE, people would always go back and forth about something and finally someone would say: “You know what, let’s just go talk to Vince. I’m tired of talking to a horse’s ass. Vince what do you want?” Vince would make a decision and it would get done. And in TNA, it’s like that with Jeff. Anytime there’s infighting just grab Jeff and say: “What do you want? Tell these guys what you want.”

When asked if he'd rather see TNA Impact go head-to-head with Raw or Smackdown, Nash ripped the latter. "I wouldn't want to go against Smackdown," he said. "It's like beating a guy with one leg. That show isn't even watchable—sorry Take (Undertaker)."
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:rofl:

Kurt's crazyness must be rubbing off.
 
Possibly - although there is some truth in what he said, as SD has had a run of incredibly boring shows over the past few months. Impact may rarely be good, but it usually at least feels like an eventful show.
 
[quote name='JaytheGamefan']


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Wow. Nash looks more and more like Kenny Rogers every time I see him. And judging from the other screen caps I should watch TNA because it looks absolutely hilarious.
 
[quote name='JaytheGamefan']Possibly - although there is some truth in what he said.[/QUOTE]

There's zero truth in what he said. They can't even beat ECW (or break a 1.2) and he expects them to mop the floor with Smackdown? Even quality wise, Smackdown is on a whole different level than TNA.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']There's zero truth in what he said. They can't even beat ECW (or break a 1.2) and he expects them to mop the floor with Smackdown? Even quality wise, Smackdown is on a whole different level than TNA.[/quote]

It is hard to place TNA. Wrestling-wise, they are leaps and bounds above any WWE show. WWE, while we refer to it as pro-wrestling, is not operated as a pro-wrestling show; it's operated as a pseudo-action show. At least until the present creative staff dies. Story-wise, WWE edges out TNA - as it should, especially with WWE Creative's intention to make things more story-based. Production quality also goes to WWE and their bigger budget. In terms of commentary teams, I'm giving it to WWE, specifically battle-worn JR and, the useless, Jerry Lawler. I just cannot stand present-day Mike Tenay and, Mark Madden-incarnate, Don West.

In terms of pro-wrestling exhibition, TNA backfists WWE. However, in totality, WWE beats up TNA.

That said, I love Kevin Nash's personality and, especially, his hair. He has great hair. :drool:
 
I really wish they would have built up the Terrordome match more, while the gimmick seems kinda stupid, it's just a damn steel cage with a hole in the top, the wrestlers competing in it are for the most part pretty enjoyable to watch. Basically there seem to be no feuds or angles going on for anyone involved in that match (maybe between jay and sanjay, but then again they haven't been on tv for weeks so who knows). They should have set something up between at least a few of the competitors to really build it up.
 
Nick Hogan was sentenced today to five years probation, 100 hours of community service, one full day in "some positive framework" every month. He will also not be able to drive for three years.

One interesting (but not really surprising) note was when Hulk Hogan was speaking on his son's behalf. He admitted that Hogan Knows Best was scripted and not an actual reality show.
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About time Hogan's son got slapped down to reality. Although considering the speed he had to been going and his friend still in the hospital, there should've been some jail time in there too.

As for Hogan Knows Best being scripted, :rofl:. That tells you right there that it would've been a lame-ass show if it wasn't scripted.
 
[quote name='xcoax']Wow. Nash looks more and more like Kenny Rogers every time I see him. And judging from the other screen caps I should watch TNA because it looks absolutely hilarious.[/QUOTE]

The funny thing is, thinking of people like Nash and Sting remind me of the chorus to "The Gambler."

Am I the only one uninterested in the Hogan stuff? Don't get me wrong: I'm not saying he doesn't deserve any kind of sanction at all, but that it's soo tangentially related to wrestling that I don't see the appeal in it.

EDIT: Same goes for the Hulkster's divorce. Or Brooke Anything.
 
Oh, man. I love Scott Steiner. I don't agree with everything he says (he doesn't spend any time pointing to his physical condition for his awful run with HHH), but a lot of what he says does make sense, and he shows himself to be a pretty smart dude.

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/wrestling/blog/2008/05/qa_with_scott_steiner.html

“Big Poppa Pump” Scott Steiner has never been one to hold back when he’s asked for his opinion on something or someone. During a telephone interview on Wednesday, Steiner discussed his stints in WWE and WCW, his near-death experience in Puerto Rico last year and what he thinks about Ric Flair, Triple H and Shawn Michaels.

Steiner will participate in a three-way match against TNA world champion Samoa Joe and Kurt Angle in the main event of the Sacrifice pay-per-view Sunday.

You’ve had your share of injuries over the years. How are you feeling physically these days?

For the most part I feel pretty good. I’m starting to get back in pretty good shape, [but] not as great as I was at one time. I think ever since I had the accident in Puerto Rico, there was so much trauma to my body that I haven’t really been able to get as lean as I’d like. But it’s starting to come around. There was just so much swelling that it was hard to come back from. And there’s still a little bit of pain. My muscle back there doesn’t work entirely correctly because my lat was sliced in half. Other than that, I feel pretty good.

You were talking about the serious trachea injury you suffered in Puerto Rico. Can you take us through that whole experience?

I didn’t realize there was a big problem until later on that night. I got kicked pretty hard in the throat, but I finished the match. I felt like there was bleeding back there, but the EMTs at the building said there was nothing wrong. I actually went back to the hotel. My throat was hurting pretty bad, but I just thought it was swelled up, so I tried to eat some ice cream to bring down the swelling back there, but it didn’t help. Then I tried eating, and I couldn’t eat because it was just so painful for the food to go down. Then I went back up to my hotel room and stayed there for about an hour or so, and then I felt my lungs starting to get heavy and I was having cold chills. Then I started spitting up blood. That’s when I called the ambulance, and they rushed me to the hospital, which was an experience.

I’ve been to jail before, and it was like the gates of the jail at the hospital. There were 20-foot high steel gates and there were armed guards outside the hospital. The opened the door, which creaked, and then they slammed it shut. I walked in there, and there was literally people lined up, bleeding, screaming down the corridors. Nobody was speaking English, and it was kind of freaky. I was actually at the same hospital where Bruiser Brody died. So, I was kind of freaked out. I called a couple of my buddies because I wanted to get out of there. I came in and they took some scans, made me drink some stuff to see what the damage was. That was brutal trying to drink that stuff. They finally found that I did have a torn trachea. The bad part about it was that it was torn in my chest. They told me I had five hours to live. The air that was supposed to be going into my lungs was now going into my skin. That turns poisonous and then you die. I still didn’t really want to believe them. My buddy owns a private jet, and he was going to fly it down. They kind of sensed that I wanted to get out of there. Thank God that didn’t happen, because my lung would have collapsed and they couldn’t have saved me because the trachea was torn. They put me on some sedatives and kind of calmed me down. I was still fighting it and trying to get out of there, because I didn’t want to have surgery in Puerto Rico. Finally, a Puerto Rican doctor came in and calmed me a little bit, but he still sensed that I wanted to leave so he put me under.

The next time I woke up – I had been in an induced coma for two days because the pain would have been so bad – I felt like I was choking. It felt like I was going to drown because I couldn’t get any air. They pulled the ventilator out of my throat and I woke up. They told me they cut through my lat, basically split my ribs in half, and then cut through my lung, sewed my trachea up. Then they put a tube in my lung to drain for two weeks. I just swelled up. I looked brutal, like a 300-pound fat guy. It was the most swelling I ever experienced. I still couldn’t fly, so I had to take a cruise ship home. I went to get on the cruise ship – and no cruise ship. A guy jumped off and committed suicide, so the FBI boarded the ship and had to circle for like 17 hours. So I had to wait an extra day in Puerto Rico, got on a cruise ship, and it took me another week to get home. I took my tour bus back up to where I live, and I tried to recover. I still kind of worried, so I went to a doctor to see if they did everything right, and the doctor shook my hand and said, “You’re lucky to be here. Those doctors saved your life.” That will mess with your mind. I was kind of messed up for three or four months, knowing that I could have been dead.

Has a brush with death changed your outlook on life at all?

Yeah, a little bit. The thing that really messed me up was that one of my best friends had died a month earlier. Life isn’t fair. It definitely makes you look at things a little bit differently. I think I’m pretty much over the fact that I could have been dead, and physically I’m almost there.

Does that whole experience make you never want to go back to Puerto Rico?

Oh, no. The Puerto Rican people and the doctors were great. The nurses were fantastic. Other than the language barrier, they were nice. Here’s one funny story. I told you that I swelled up real bad – and my [testicles] swelled up really bad. I literally had to carry them in my hand to go to the bathroom. Some of the nurses weren’t so easy to look at, but one day, one of the most beautiful nurses I have ever seen walked in. I got up from my wheelchair and turned around, and she was beautiful. I dropped my drawers and I said, “Are my [testicles] supposed to be this big?” She ran out of the room and I never saw her again (laughs).

Switching gears a bit, why do you think your WWE run from several years ago wasn’t as successful as it could have been?

Well, if you look back, everyone from WCW got treated like [garbage], from Goldberg, to Kevin Nash, to Scott Hall. You have to remember – you were there – we beat WWE for 82 weeks straight, and Vince [McMahon] obviously took that personally, so he wanted to bring everyone in that was on top in WCW and bury them. Kevin Nash is supposed to be the best friend of Triple H, but he got the same thing. He won the first title match [against Triple H] by DQ and then lost the second one. I can’t really take it that personally because [Tripe H] treated supposedly his best friend the same way. I’ll tell you right now: People up there are miserable. Both times that I went up there, it was the most screwed-up place I’ve ever been.

Worse than WCW was screwed up?

Oh, my God, it’s not even close. You got Triple H, who’s [sleeping with] the boss’ daughter. She thinks she’s the greatest and he’s the greatest. He’s in the production meetings and the booking meetings. You mark my words: He will break Ric Flair’s record for world championships, because they’re both cut from the same mold – they’re both marks for the belt. It will happen. And it’s bull. I think [The Wrestling Observer’s Dave] Meltzer wrote that every time [Triple H] is the champion, ratings go down, pay-per-view buys go down – it’s a fact. But that’s what happens when you’re [sleeping with] the boss’ daughter. That’s the one thing that was worse going up there the second time – she was involved. And the only reason she’s involved is because she was part of the lucky sperm club. That’s her only qualification.

Scott, please stop sugarcoating it and tell me how you really feel.

(Laughs). There are other people that felt the same way.

Was a run as world champion ever discussed when you went to WWE?

Oh, no. I was there for the same [expletive] that Goldberg and Kevin Nash were.

So did you know that going in?

No, actually I did not expect that. I really didn’t think Vince was that stupid to buy out the competition and then bury it. How stupid is that? That’s his ego. He wanted to own the wrestling world. Well, now he has it and look how it’s done. Ratings are worse than they’ve ever been. They’ll never come back because there’s no competition. I hope TNA becomes a viable contender. If things work out the way it happened with WCW, where finally we went head-to-head live, there’s a possibility it can happen. Trust me, people want to jump. I’m not the only one that sees that Triple H is a [jerk]. If they can jump to a better situation, they will.

You mentioned WCW, and you and I were both there when the doors closed. How did the company go from being so successful to going out if business in such a short time, and who should take the most blame for it?

The people that are the most to blame are the higher-ups in TBS. They despised professional wrestling even though we outdrew basketball, baseball – even when the Braves were in the World Series. And then to sell it for $2.5 million? That’s ridiculous. That right there shows you it was a [screwed] up situation. Everybody wants to blame Eric Bischoff, and they don’t know what they’re talking about. Eric Bischoff was one of the best things to happen to WCW because he brought the pay scale up and he wanted to get rid of the old [expletive] that was going on in WCW. Unfortunately, he didn’t want anything to do with the booking. I had a number of talks with Eric where he said, “Man, I need to find some different bookers. Where do I go?” It was hard to find.

You’ve been very critical of Ric Flair in the past. What are your thoughts on his retirement, his induction into the WWE Hall of Fame and his career overall?

I thought it was a joke how many times he cried. Remember the nWo skit when X-Pac was supposed to be Ric Flair, and every time they asked him a question tears would come down his face because he had a pump of water under his arm pit? Now that comes into play as far as what Ric Flair was like behind closed doors backstage. He was a crybaby. He was a little [wuss], man. And for him to do it during the match and then at the induction ceremony, come on, man. Are you kidding me? That’s the way Ric Flair was.

OK, I’m going to play devil’s advocate. Didn’t I see you cry on TV once?

Yeah, but that was for an angle that I did later on that night, and everybody knew I was faking.

I know. I’m just kidding.

He was doing it because he’s a mark, man. It was unbelievable. That’s how he was in real life. Here’s another story: Ric Flair thought his big Four Horsemen were going to come back again. So, [Curt] Hennig was going to join them, and we were going to wrestle them at a pay-per-view in a cage and it was going to be the Four Horsemen’s triumphant return. But Hennig was going to turn and join the nWo. When they told Ric Flair the finish, his eyes started welling up, and we had to leave the room because we started laughing. We were like, “Look at that little piece of [garbage]. He’s [freaking] crying. I’m not the only one who has the view on Flair. If you talk to Bret Hart, he’ll say the same thing about Ric Flair, Shawn Michaels and Triple H. There all pieces of [garbage], man.

My first two months in the business was my first indication that Ric Flair was a piece of [garbage]. I broke in with Dick The Bruiser, and I was going to go down to the NWA for a tryout. I told Dick, and he said, “As soon as you get there, you drop your bags in front of Ric Flair and you tell him to carry your bags and you tell him I said so.” I said, “OK, I’ll do it.” I didn’t know anything about ribs back then. On the way home I was riding with “Bulldog” Don Kent, and he said, “No, you can’t do that.” But Dick The Bruiser had no respect for him. He said that’s how he got in the business – carrying guys’ bags. Look at Bruno Sammartino – he has zero respect for Flair. Ole Anderson once slapped David Flair and said, “I’ve got more for your dad if he wants some.” Flair had so much heat with the guys he wrestled with – he had zero respect.

I don’t know if you saw Flair’s farewell address on Raw, but everyone on the roster came out and it sure seemed like they all had a lot of respect for him.

Kevin, it’s written in the show. They have to show up. It’s just like if they tell you to go out there and do a match. They had to go out there and pretend like they respect the guy. The only guys that do are Triple H and Shawn Michaels. They’re three peas in a pod – three guys who couldn’t fight their way out of a paper bag. They’re three of the biggest [wusses] that have ever been in the sport. And they’re all friends – imagine that. They all come from the same mold. They were never athletes and the way they got things done was behind closed doors and backstabbing people.

You’re really going to love it when I tell you this: I’m a big Shawn Michaels fan.

Well, I guess if you like to look at gay magazines that he’s posed in and watch him dance around in chaps like one of the Village People or a Chippendale, if you’re a fan, more power to you, baby. Personally, I think he’s a [freaking homosexual].

Well, all right then. Let’s move on. After some bad experiences in WWE and WCW, is wrestling fun again for you now that you’re in TNA?

Yeah. When I left I WWE, I had surgery on my foot. I had drop foot, where my foot was totally paralyzed. I had a tendon transfer and got nine screws in my foot. They broke my foot, took a bone graph from my hip and put it in my foot and put a plate in there. So, now my foot is not 100 percent, but it works, so I can wrestle a lot better than I did.

People were quick to criticize you when you were in WWE and say that you had lost it, but you were in constant pain your whole time there, right?

That’s why I really didn’t care a whole lot up there. When your mind is concentrating on pain 24 hours a day, which I was – I’d like anybody to try and wrestle with one foot. If I moved my foot it would just flop uncontrollably. I had total paralysis down there. And it causes pain up your legs and in your hips. It was hard. I was actually going to retire; I did not want to go up [to WWE]. But they offered me more money than I was asking for, so I took it, thinking that they would want to do business. Shoot, they paid Bill Goldberg more than they paid me just to bury him, too. It made zero sense whatsoever.

Speaking of Goldberg in WWE, there was an infamous segment in which they put a blonde wig on his head. If they had come to you with that blonde wig, what would you have done?

Yeah, I’d have told then to [expletive]. That was one of the first things that Bill did up there. I said, “Bill, that’s brutal. Why’d you do it?” He said, “Oh, they want to expand my character.” But that’s the way that politics work up there. They aren’t trying to expand his character; they’re burying him. But when you first get up there, you don’t think it’s going to happen because you figure they want to do business.

What was it like to team with your brother Rick again last year in TNA?

Oh, it was great. The fans wanted it. The only reason that we went into singles competition was because, as a tag team, we had defeated everybody, we had wrestled everybody. When went up to WWE, we beat everybody. There were no more mountains to climb. That’s when my career took off in a different direction – that’s when I became “Big Poppa Pump.” I’m glad it happened, but when we got back together, people loved to see it. It was good.

You mentioned that you considered retirement several years ago. How many more years do you see yourself wrestling, and what will you do after your career is over?

It’s hard to say. I’ve prepared from Day 1 to get out of the business, and now that it’s so close for me retiring, I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. But as long as they want to pay you and keep you around, I hope I can go on long enough to where we start challenging WWE for ratings, one-one-one live. Yeah, [retirement] is close, and I have no idea what I’ll do to fulfill that void. When you do something as long as I have, you obviously love the sport – although not everything about the sport. It will be tough to replace that high that you get because you like to perform and give the fans what they want, or in my case, make the fans hate you. I’ve got a couple options, but I don’t think anything is going to replace wrestling.

You’re wrestling in the main event of the Sacrifice pay-per-view Sunday against Samoa Joe and Kurt Angle. What can fans expect from that match?

A lot of brutality. Everybody knows Kurt Angle. Everybody knows me. Everybody’s getting to know Joe. He’s one of those guys that fans are behind. He has some interesting aspects to his game that Kurt and I don’t have. I think it’s going to be a great match. We’re going to try to put on the best show possible.
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Thanks for the interview, Myke. I just bookmarked it. It is a very good read. There are various portions I'd like to quote (his observation of the perception of Ric Flair, firstly), but this is just tops:

I told you that I swelled up real bad – and my [testicles] swelled up really bad. I literally had to carry them in my hand to go to the bathroom. Some of the nurses weren’t so easy to look at, but one day, one of the most beautiful nurses I have ever seen walked in. I got up from my wheelchair and turned around, and she was beautiful. I dropped my drawers and I said, “Are my [testicles] supposed to be this big?” She ran out of the room and I never saw her again (laughs).
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Hehehe... :mrgreen:
 
Recieved my RoH DVDs today.

Watch part of Supercard and sadly, you can't see me. They kept cutting between the action on both sides of the arena and they cut most of Jimmy getting pelted with chairs. When they do show it, you can only see me from the waist down.

They do have a crazy ass shot of Briscoe jumping off the entrance that was pretty close to what I was able to see.

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Oh, what a glorious day...Jim Ross half-confirms we'll see Honky in the new Legends game, courtesy of JR's BBQ.

[quote name='http://www.jrsbarbq.com/2008/05/08/owen-at-43-thanks-dwayne-okc-raw-zbyszko-florida-trip/']WWE's New "Legends" Video Game:The Legends Video game that will be out in 2009 is an idea I love (we all love our own ideas) and I can’t wait to see how that one materializes. I am anxious to see it come together and be able to match the greatest Intercontinental Champion of all time, the Honkytonk Man, versus his cousin, Jerry "the King" Lawler…..two of the best in ring performers of any era. [/QUOTE]
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']Man, I am digging Natalya Neidhart in the ring. She reminds me a lot of Beth Phoenix. The have a similar look, similar ring ability.[/quote]

If you like Nattie now, in WWE, you should check out her previous work. I'd upload things but I'm not as generous as Jay, and a lot lazier. :whistle2:# YouTube has a few of her matches.
 
"WE'RE SO SMART!"
"WE'RE SO SMART!"

;)

Now, they've run in Hammerstein before, just not in this main room, right? I seem to recall two very different rooms: this one, which we've seen in the WWE One Night Stand shows, as well as ECW PPVs (Massacre on 34th Street at least) - but also the smaller room, which I seem to distinctly remember was the room they were in when Raven returned to ECW after his WCW tenure (was this the Dudley's going away match in ECW, where Raven returned to win the tag titles with Tommy Dreamer?). The smaller room was also home to WWF Raw for a very, very, very long time.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']"WE'RE SO SMART!"
"WE'RE SO SMART!"

;)

Now, they've run in Hammerstein before, just not in this main room, right? I seem to recall two very different rooms: this one, which we've seen in the WWE One Night Stand shows, as well as ECW PPVs (Massacre on 34th Street at least) - but also the smaller room, which I seem to distinctly remember was the room they were in when Raven returned to ECW after his WCW tenure (was this the Dudley's going away match in ECW, where Raven returned to win the tag titles with Tommy Dreamer?). The smaller room was also home to WWF Raw for a very, very, very long time.[/QUOTE]

As far as I know, this is RoH's first time running Hammerstein. Same place where I got the photo said that there is 2000 people in attendance at tonight's show.

Not sure about the rooms though, never been to Hammerstein.
 
There's hammerstein ballroom and the "grand ballroom" - both are part of the Manhattan Center.

So perhaps they've run in the Manhattan Center before, but in the Grand Ballroom. I distinctly remember Joe/Kobashi being in there.

So, yeah, shuffle the names around proper and then I'm right. ;)
 
There's Hammerstein Ballroom, then there's the Grand Ballroom. I've been to a concert at the Grand Ballroom, I think it holds like 1,200 people.
 
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Very nice to see ROH drawing nice crowds like that. Too bad ROH can barely draw 500 or so here. Then again they never advertised the few shows they have done here as well outside of one ad in The Cities paper... with Justin Credible the featured person in the ad no less. :lol:
 
So, I'm ripping some matches from my Orlando DVDs, what would you guys like to see?

I already ripped Typhoon vs Muscle Outlawz from Supercard.

Dragon Gate Challenge II- Orlando, FL 3/28/08 (DVD)
Item# ROH180DVD
Description:
1. Nigel McGuinness vs. Delirious (Non Title)
2. Ruckus & Jigsaw vs. Kenny King & Sal Rinuaro
3. Austin Aries vs. Genki Horiguchi
4. Kevin Steen & El Generico vs. Naruki Doi & Masato Yoshino
5. Jimmy Jacobs & Tyler Black vs. BxB Hulk & SHINGO
6. Jay & Mark Briscoe vs. Dragon Kid & Ryo Saito
7. CIMA, Erick Stevens, & Go Shiozaki vs. Roderick Strong, Davey Richards, & Rocky Romero

Supercard of Honor III- Orlando, FL 3/29/08 (DVD)
Item# ROH181DVD
Description:
1. Delirious vs. Go Shiozaki
2. Kenny King, Sal Rinuaro, & Chasyn Rance vs. Buchwhacker Luke, Alex Payne, & Dingo
3. Roderick Strong vs. Erick Stevens (FIP Heavyweight Title Match)
4. Jay & Mark Briscoe vs. Jimmy Jacobs & Tyler Black (Relaxed Rules Match)
5. Kevin Steen & El Generico vs. BxB Hulk & SHINGO
6. Nigel McGuinness vs. Austin Aries (ROH World Title Match)
7. Typhoon (CIMA, Dragon Kid, & Ryo Saito) vs. Muscle Outlawz(Naruki Doi, Masato Yoshino & Genki Horiguchi)
 
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